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*Its not like he actually even raised them from the dead yet and still hes being jailed even though not one person was harmed in any way. America is a fascsist hellhole

Student in High School zombie terror threat
The Register
Comment: We have highlighted this case before but this new article sheds new light. It was actually his own grandparents that 'informed' on him. They would have been proud members of the East German Stasi.

An 18-year-old US student is today behind bars after police uncovered his plot to raise a zombie army and attack his high school. The wannabe Papa Doc Duvalier's chilling plan was uncovered after the youth's grandparents discovered his written proposal for the outrage in Winchester, Kentucky, lex18.com reports.

Mercifully, William Poole was cuffed before he could execute his macabre scheme. He faces a second-degree felony terrorist threatening charge after investigators discovered "materials at Poole's home that outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police".

Naturally, the fledgling Baron Samedi has claimed that the writings were nothing more than a short story he penned for his English class. He said: "My story is based on fiction. It's a fake story. I made it up. I've been working on one of my short stories, [and] the short story they found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a high school over ran by zombies."

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention [George Rogers Clark High School], didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing. Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that stupid, that crazy."

Despite his protestations, the authorities have wisely decided to cage the miscreant youth. Winchester Police detective Steven Caudill noted: "Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky."

Accordingly, a judge last week reflected the seriousness of threatening your high school with annihilation at the hands of the undead by raising Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars at the request of prosecutors. He is currently reflecting on his folly in the Clark County Detention Center.

I commend his grandparents and the Kentucky police for acting swiftly. A zombie massacre just isn't what the world needs right now.

I mentioned about something like that; the teachers wanted me to write a report on it. Guess living in different states makes all the difference.

lol @ skapedroe's misuse of the term "fascism"

this story is hilarious, though, so thanks for sharing it 'droe!

I commend his grandparents and the Kentucky police for acting swiftly. A zombie massacre just isn't what the world needs right now.
his sellout Grandmother belongs with the Stasi

"Shaun of the Dead" should admit to some culpability in this matter as an influencing factor, perhaps 0.05% liability. That fetid odor I smell is lawsuit!

Nah,.... it's just the dead.

lol @ skapedroe's misuse of the term "fascism"

this story is hilarious, though, so thanks for sharing it 'droe!
The American Empire is falling thru its own fascisst excesses at home and abroad

OLD!
And you've violated your '1 piece of partisan cut&paste a day'

Heh heh, that's probably the most attention-grabbing thread title I've ever seen. :)


OLD!
And you've violated your '1 piece of partisan cut&paste a day'

I'm not sure that was cut&paste...I've certainly never seen that news story reported with the "raising an army of zombies" angle to it.

That community deserves a brutal cannibal zombie massacre.

OLD!
And you've violated your '1 piece of partisan cut&paste a day'
No I didnt--it was the only new post I made for this day

And people said the Patriot Act wouldn't work. :rolleyes:

Of course there is always the other explanation (http://www.winchestersun.com/articles/2005/02/24/local_news/news01.txt) but I definitely prefer the Skapedroe version. It's much more fun.

That community deserves a brutal cannibal zombie massacre.
I agree :D

And people said the Patriot Act wouldn't work. :rolleyes:
Ja

And people said the Patriot Act wouldn't work. :rolleyes:
It saved hundreds of young American asses.

It saved hundreds of young American asses.
by putting them in concentration camps where prisoners are forced to masterbate and lay in naked pyramids all day?

I'm glad that that kid was stopped before he did something really horrible... like plan to sprout wings, build himself a amored car, and rob an invisible bank. :sniper:

by putting them in concentration camps where prisoners are forced to masterbate and lay in naked pyramids all day?
?

I'm not sure that was cut&paste...I've certainly never seen that news story reported with the "raising an army of zombies" angle to it.It was. Here (http://www.theregister.com/2005/03/08/high_school_zombie_threat/) is the article. The Register irregularly make use of sarcasm, so it's nothing unusual about the article's point of view. They are pretty good at being a serious new source and being funny at the same time, IMO.

by putting them in concentration camps where prisoners are forced to masterbate and lay in naked pyramids all day?

Well, i don't think it goes that far, however it does allow the search and seisure(sp?) of one's property without a warrent, which is unconstitutional.

Err... I wasn't defending the Patriot Act. I was adding on to the sarcasm of Red Sox Fanatics. I for one am against it.

I believe it. Here in Oklahoma they expelled a girl for casting a hex on her teacher. Part of their proof was that the girl had checked out books on withcraft and her teacher got sick after that. It happened about two years ago in either Tulsa or Muskogee.

Well, i don't think it goes that far, however it does allow the search and seisure(sp?) of one's property without a warrent, which is unconstitutional.
I was talken about what goes on in the detention centers

I believe it. Here in Oklahoma they expelled a girl for casting a hex on her teacher. Part of their proof was that the girl had checked out books on withcraft and her teacher got sick after that. It happened about two years ago in either Tulsa or Muskogee.
I think there should be riots in every school that has zero tolerance for freedom

I believe it. Here in Oklahoma they expelled a girl for casting a hex on her teacher. Part of their proof was that the girl had checked out books on withcraft and her teacher got sick after that. It happened about two years ago in either Tulsa or Muskogee.
They should have burned her. It's really the only way to be sure.

Thank God for the police. Or they would have to nuke the city like what they did to Umbrella city.

Of course there is always the other explanation (http://www.winchestersun.com/articles/2005/02/24/local_news/news01.txt) but I definitely prefer the Skapedroe version. It's much more fun.

I notice that this has been completely ignored; after Columbine, anything related to armed takeover attempts of schools is going to be dealt with harshly.

Look at all the legal wrangling over the fact that the cops KNEW there were threats against people at Columbine but could not act previous to the massacre; the laws have changed.

I notice that this has been completely ignored; after Columbine, anything related to armed takeover attempts of schools is going to be dealt with harshly.

Look at all the legal wrangling over the fact that the cops KNEW there were threats against people at Columbine but could not act previous to the massacre; the laws have changed.

So then we could start assuming "zombies" is a secret code for the pistol-packing seniors to open fire on wellness day?

I'm going to raise zombies AND attack my school with said zombies AND right a 2 page report on the success of the living dead as melee infantry AND goddamnit I will get an A on it.

Okay, that's just F'd up. The prosecution should be shot for being so stupid. That sort of crap doesn't exist, and everybody knows that.

Of course there is always the other explanation (http://www.winchestersun.com/articles/2005/02/24/local_news/news01.txt) but I definitely prefer the Skapedroe version. It's much more fun.

Interesting. That does put a different spin on it.

The article I saw originally ( http://www.lex18.com/global/story.asp?s=2989614&ClientType=Printable ) didn't mention anything about trying to 'recruit an armed gang to try to take over the school'.

I notice that this has been completely ignored; after Columbine, anything related to armed takeover attempts of schools is going to be dealt with harshly.

Look at all the legal wrangling over the fact that the cops KNEW there were threats against people at Columbine but could not act previous to the massacre; the laws have changed.

I'd like to point out that a number of us adults wrote stories like that when we were in high school. It disturbs me a great deal that if I were an American student today I could be in jail with a $5,000 bail. Fortunately, I haven't been in high school for 15 years, and when I was, my teachers enjoyed and encouraged my stories. In fact, a story about the school getting trashed and being burned down made it into the high school annual -- considerably different then the reaction such a story would apparently have today.

I don't blame a government for wanting to keep its citizens safe, but what's next? Arresting kids for playing cops and robbers, because the robbers were clearly planning criminal actions?

And for that matter - aren't there adult authors, like Tom Clancy and Trevanian, who do plan detailed terrorist attacks as part of their novels? They aren't getting arrested, are they? (Rhetorical question, I know they're not.) Columbine was a tragedy, but should all teenagers pay for it? Adults commit crimes all the time, but the entire adult population does not become suspect because of it.

Interesting. That does put a different spin on it.

The article I saw originally ( http://www.lex18.com/global/story.asp?s=2989614&ClientType=Printable ) didn't mention anything about trying to 'recruit an armed gang to try to take over the school'.

Just goes to show, Equus, that even when POINTED OUT, some people will not bother to actually READ additional information.

I'd like to point out that a number of us adults wrote stories like that when we were in high school. It disturbs me a great deal that if I were an American student today I could be in jail with a $5,000 bail. Fortunately, I haven't been in high school for 15 years, and when I was, my teachers enjoyed and encouraged my stories. In fact, a story about the school getting trashed and being burned down made it into the high school annual -- considerably different then the reaction such a story would apparently have today.

I don't blame a government for wanting to keep its citizens safe, but what's next? Arresting kids for playing cops and robbers, because the robbers were clearly planning criminal actions?

And for that matter - aren't there adult authors, like Tom Clancy and Trevanian, who do plan detailed terrorist attacks as part of their novels? They aren't getting arrested, are they? (Rhetorical question, I know they're not.) Columbine was a tragedy, but should all teenagers pay for it? Adults commit crimes all the time, but the entire adult population does not become suspect because of it.

It's partly because we have such a litigious society, and it's partly because of the evidence prior to Columbine -- the personal website with hitlists, the film that Harris and Klebold made as a school project showing them killing other students (if I recall correctly), the threats that they made against people that the police could not act on because it was 'an invasion of their privacy' and 'just fantasy'.

Now, when teens make such statements, they are going to be put under a microscope, simply because Columbine was the WORST, and not the SOLE example of this kind of anti-social behavior.

Let's face it, folks: the teen years are not exactly the years of cool heads and measured thinking. Hormones and peer pressure make people do stupid things. If you don't believe me, you need only look to the internet to see what I am talking about.

Fortunately, MOST of us are level-headed and/or moral enough not to act on our darkest instincts. Some, however, are socio- or psychopathic -- and can we really afford to blow off someone's murder fantasies as 'just a game' anymore?

Just do a search on school shootings, and tell me what you think.

I notice that this has been completely ignored; after Columbine, anything related to armed takeover attempts of schools is going to be dealt with harshly.

Look at all the legal wrangling over the fact that the cops KNEW there were threats against people at Columbine but could not act previous to the massacre; the laws have changed.
for the worse

Yeah it was a tragedy....Could you repeat the question?

all they have to do is end the bullying and get kids off of toxic anti depressants that turn them into suicidal crazed killers--they dont have to start prosecuting people based on thought crimes

*Its not like he actually even raised them from the dead yet and still hes being jailed even though not one person was harmed in any way. America is a fascsist hellhole

Student in High School zombie terror threat
The Register
Comment: We have highlighted this case before but this new article sheds new light. It was actually his own grandparents that 'informed' on him. They would have been proud members of the East German Stasi.

An 18-year-old US student is today behind bars after police uncovered his plot to raise a zombie army and attack his high school. The wannabe Papa Doc Duvalier's chilling plan was uncovered after the youth's grandparents discovered his written proposal for the outrage in Winchester, Kentucky, lex18.com reports.

Mercifully, William Poole was cuffed before he could execute his macabre scheme. He faces a second-degree felony terrorist threatening charge after investigators discovered "materials at Poole's home that outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police".

Naturally, the fledgling Baron Samedi has claimed that the writings were nothing more than a short story he penned for his English class. He said: "My story is based on fiction. It's a fake story. I made it up. I've been working on one of my short stories, [and] the short story they found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a high school over ran by zombies."

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention [George Rogers Clark High School], didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing. Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that stupid, that crazy."

Despite his protestations, the authorities have wisely decided to cage the miscreant youth. Winchester Police detective Steven Caudill noted: "Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky."

Accordingly, a judge last week reflected the seriousness of threatening your high school with annihilation at the hands of the undead by raising Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars at the request of prosecutors. He is currently reflecting on his folly in the Clark County Detention Center.

I really can't tell if this is a joke or not......... Help! ^.^

It's partly because we have such a litigious society, and it's partly because of the evidence prior to Columbine -- the personal website with hitlists, the film that Harris and Klebold made as a school project showing them killing other students (if I recall correctly), the threats that they made against people that the police could not act on because it was 'an invasion of their privacy' and 'just fantasy'.

Now, when teens make such statements, they are going to be put under a microscope, simply because Columbine was the WORST, and not the SOLE example of this kind of anti-social behavior.

Let's face it, folks: the teen years are not exactly the years of cool heads and measured thinking. Hormones and peer pressure make people do stupid things. If you don't believe me, you need only look to the internet to see what I am talking about.

Fortunately, MOST of us are level-headed and/or moral enough not to act on our darkest instincts. Some, however, are socio- or psychopathic -- and can we really afford to blow off someone's murder fantasies as 'just a game' anymore?

Just do a search on school shootings, and tell me what you think.

I'd say that a personal website with hitlists and a film showing the deaths of other students is a far cry from writing about a bunch of zombies invading an unnamed school with unnamed teachers and unnamed students.

""It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing," http://www.lex18.com/global/story.asp?s=2989614&ClientType=Printable

Frankly, the more accusatory article states that "they discovered materials at Poole's home that outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police." But the only items actually mentioned in the article is his journal and his short story. At no time do they refer to weapons in his possession, unlike the Columbine students. Furthermore, one article claims that he was recruiting other students into a gang, but no one says how. Is the short story supposed to be a recruiting piece, or is he actively encouraging gang involvement, showing colours, that sort of thing?

I know that here in Canada we haven't had nearly the numbers of school shootings as has occurred in the US, but I do know that many shootings aren't presaged by disturbing works of fiction. Following that logic, should all young people who don't perform well in school, behave resentfully, and are disciplinary problems automatically be arrested? There are plenty of youths who fit these categories who have instigated school shootings or participated in crime. Just as there are plenty of others who muddle through without becoming criminals. All I'm saying is, where do we draw the line? Here in Canada, a native kid recently shot his French teacher and then committed suicide in class. Does that mean that poorly performing native students should be taken out of school? It sure as hell has resulted in lot of scared teachers in northern Quebec. At this point, they would probably be happy with that kind of result.

I think that if the First Amendment really means anything in the US, it should protect students as well as adults. By all means, if a teen writes disturbing fiction or isn't doing well in school or is experimenting with drugs or whatever the danger signals are today, get them help. Remove them from their environment if you're really worried and get them extensive counselling. But jail on a felony charge with a $5000 bail? That isn't helping a kid in need - it may even place him in an environment that ultimately makes things worse. Furthermore, it just teaches other kids to go underground with disturbing or suicidal thoughts and not share them with the adults who can help them.

Forgive me for being a good little drone of the State... but I can't help but feel there is probably more to this than just some kid writing a story.

Certainly, everyone has become much more sensitive to this sort of thing after the recent history of school shootings but I do find it very hard to believe that all of this is happening because of a short story. It would be very interesting to actually read the piece of fiction in question.

Perhaps the kid in question has been involved in other activities that label him as a potential threat? Or perhaps there is nothing more to this than some kid being treated with undue harshness because of a little bit of creative literature.

The point I'm trying to make here is that it is a little early to go off all half-cocked about "facist" America and "Stasi grandparents" without knowing a lot more than is included in either article I've read about this incident. More detail is required before anyone (imho of course) could start making any judgement calls about it.

Forgive me for being a good little drone of the State... but I can't help but feel there is probably more to this than just some kid writing a story.

Certainly, everyone has become much more sensitive to this sort of thing after the recent history of school shootings but I do find it very hard to believe that all of this is happening because of a short story. It would be very interesting to actually read the piece of fiction in question.

Perhaps the kid in question has been involved in other activities that label him as a potential threat? Or perhaps there is nothing more to this than some kid being treated with undue harshness because of a little bit of creative literature.

The point I'm trying to make here is that it is a little early to go off all half-cocked about "facist" America and "Stasi grandparents" without knowing a lot more than is included in either article I've read about this incident. More detail is required before anyone (imho of course) could start making any judgement calls about it.


But without anyone going off about fascism it would never have come to light and the public would never know if the police force was over-reacting.