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Hi, I know that a lot of you are going to ridicule me for posting my life plan, but I'm going to post it anyways, because I feel like it.

My plan is to go into a traditional 4 year liberal arts college, I'm interested in University of Vermont, Norwich, and a few other schools that offer Army ROTC along with liberal arts education. After I go to a 4 year college, and I have decided whether or not to go into the military (dependent on the 2008 election, the draft and if/when if might come back, and the situation then), there are 2 routes I will take. The first one is as a CO in the US army, followed by afterwards going to a 2 year business school, then entering a career in the corporate world. The second option, is going to a 2 year business school, then entering a career in the business world.

The reason I want to pursue a additional business degree afterwards, is because that is the way to get ahead these days, and to distinguish oneself from the pack. College (4 year colleges) these days is being swamped with people that shouldn't be there for a variety of reasons, ranging from the losers that go there to party and pick up girls, to people that simply are not smart enough (<130 IQ), to people that are only there because of affirmative action. Additionally, my stepmother got this additional degree after she went to college. She for a time, was a high ranking executive for a fortune 500 corporation. She's been to "at least 50 countries" and 5 continents, and I wish to do the same, but one difference, when I have enough money to live off the interest, I will buy a farm, take my kids there, and live on the farm. In order to inherit any of my wealth, they will have to prove their moral and physical character. (Like Carnegie's view on inheritence)

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Well, everyone should have a dream and a plan. Just don't forget that times change and keep an eye on what is happening in the corporate world, to make sure your plan is still inline.

And it's always good to have a backup plan. My ex was in Army ROTC with a view of making it a career. He majored in Soviet Studies (in the 80's - when there still WAS a Soviet Union). He got injured and got dropped from the ROTC program his senior year. Suddenly, things looked very different and he had no back-up plan.

Well, everyone should have a dream and a plan. Just don't forget that times change and keep an eye on what is happening in the corporate world, to make sure your plan is still inline.

And it's always good to have a backup plan. My ex was in Army ROTC with a view of making it a career. He majored in Soviet Studies (in the 80's - when there still WAS a Soviet Union). He got injured and got dropped from the ROTC program his senior year. Suddenly, things looked very different and he had no back-up plan.


Yeah, I'm not going to do any ROTC scholarships until I see how things go in this country and internationally. If a draft was brought back, I would go enlisted.

My backup plan if I am injured is to continue through business.

However, I think this country will eventually come to war, and I want money to pay for stocking up on supplies beforehand. At the moment, that's my #1 priority.

Sounds like a plan. I don't really have much to say other than that I agree with Alena on the "have a backup" thing. Even if you never end up needing the backup plan, it's always better to have it in case, I think.

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Ah, I see you already addressed that and I missed it.

I always have a plan :)

At school, I always have a plan in case, say, someone starts shooting, or pulls a knife on me. I'm always on the lookout for "suspicious" happenings, such as people watch my movements, watching me, photographing me, or anything else.

Outside of school, I always have a plan, when I see a suspicious person walk by me, I reach for my knife, and turn around to make sure they aren't turning around to do something to me. A good example of this would be tonight when a homeless man gave me a bad look when he walked by me.

At home, I keep a club next to my bed, and ready to go. I also keep my cellphone and phone in my room, about 4 feet from my bed.

I know people are going to say I'm paranoid, but I consider it "prepareadness". In the future months, I plan on buying >6 months of MRE's for 5 people (mainly for myself), a telescopic baton (to replace my club), SAP Gloves (http://www.selfdefenseweapons.com/sapgloves.htm), and various survailence equipment.

Well Kahta, it seems to me like the Buisness aspect of school is quickly overflowing with young blood. I would strongly suggest a good backup plan to that aspect, as the more people out there with buisness degrees, the more compitition you have.
Now, the real good question will be "What are you doing your major in?" for the bacheolers degree. Since you may be able to get a head there if you choose a good program for the BA. Also, certificates don't hurt. Neither does officially speaking more then one, or two languages.

seems like a reasonable plan to me

but you might be wasting your money with all that survivalist/protection stuff. vermont isnt exactly a home for marauding hordes lying in wait for college students.

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Well Kahta, it seems to me like the Buisness aspect of school is quickly overflowing with young blood. I would strongly suggest a good backup plan to that aspect, as the more people out there with buisness degrees, the more compitition you have.
Now, the real good question will be "What are you doing your major in?" for the bacheolers degree. Since you may be able to get a head there if you choose a good program for the BA. Also, certificates don't hurt. Neither does officially speaking more then one, or two languages.

My secondary plan is being an entreprenuer (not sure of the spelling) and running my own business, so that I can become wealthy that way, entirely on my own work. What I've thought about is starting a store that only sells american products, and portray it through marketing, as a place for patriotic people to buy their products, as opposed to places which sell communist made (Chinese) goods.

Most people with business degrees though, are complete morons that go to school for the wrong reasons (pick up girls, drinking, and the frat lifestyle) not for studying, and moving on in life. George W. Bush was that type in college, and he's only where he is because of his dad. He relied on his dad for everything.

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I'm a sophomore, so I'm beginning to think about colleges. I've always had my heart set on the University of Michigan, mainly because I want to major in Political Science. Other schools on the shortlist include George Washington, Villanova, U-Cal Berkeley, and Boston College. Anybody else recommend good Poli-Sci programs? Preferably in the U.S.

seems like a reasonable plan to me

but you might be wasting your money with all that survivalist/protection stuff. vermont isnt exactly a home for marauding hordes lying in wait for college students.

No, that survivalist stuff is for when I think the USA will fall apart, probobly in 10 years, maybe a little more, or less.

Kahta, hon, I don't mean to be rude but you sound way too paranoid for someone who has to wake everyday and live.

I'm a sophomore, so I'm beginning to think about colleges. I've always had my heart set on the University of Michigan, mainly because I want to major in Political Science. Other schools on the shortlist include George Washington, Villanova, U-Cal Berkeley, and Boston College. Anybody else recommend good Poli-Sci programs? Preferably in the U.S.

I thought about political science for a while when I was a sophmore, but I realized that what I wanted was security in my job and financial security. I will attain those two goals through my plan which I made in my first post.

Kahta, hon, I don't mean to be rude but you sound way too paranoid for someone who has to wake everyday and live.

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Also, I forgot to mention that I open doors with my left hand (I'm right handed)

I'm one of the most cautious and prepared people I have ever spoken to online, or in person in real life. I'm very cautious, I don't like taking risks which could hurt my situation, such as if I did something risky in school and got caught, I'd lose access to my automobile.

Well, I'm 17 and I will be going to school in NYC when I graduate. Being on safe is something I have hed to come to terms with. If I die, I die.

Well, I'm 17 and I will be going to school in NYC when I graduate. Being on safe is something I have hed to come to terms with. If I die, I die.

I'd never go to college in a dangerous city.

I'd prefer to make my mark on the world first, so I want to avoid death, even though I'm Elect, I'd like to live a long, happy sucessful life.

Hi, I know that a lot of you are going to ridicule me for posting my life plan, but I'm going to post it anyways, because I feel like it.

My plan is to go into a traditional 4 year liberal arts college, I'm interested in University of Vermont, Norwich, and a few other schools that offer Army ROTC along with liberal arts education. After I go to a 4 year college, and I have decided whether or not to go into the military (dependent on the 2008 election, the draft and if/when if might come back, and the situation then), there are 2 routes I will take. The first one is as a CO in the US army, followed by afterwards going to a 2 year business school, then entering a career in the corporate world. The second option, is going to a 2 year business school, then entering a career in the business world.

Since your plans include going to a MBA school immediately after college, it won't be a good one. Virtually all Tier 1 and Tier 2 MBA schools just about require 2+ years of work experience and most average between 3 and 5 years of work experience.

It is basically the only option for my program. Unless I want to go out of country, but that is pretty much the only options if you want to go to a good school.

Because we all know, people with IQ under whatever Kahta's IQ arn't smart enough to be in college or get a degree :rolleyes:

I'm curious what you'll major in as well. I find it ironic that you will attend a liberal arts college in the first place.

Because we all know, people with IQ under whatever Kahta's IQ arn't smart enough to be in college or get a degree Never mind that IQ tests only measure how good you are at IQ tests... Take my brother for example, he sucks at IQ tests, really badly, but managed to get into the honours program in his economics degree...

Yeah, we should base University entrance on IQ...

I agree with Preebs. IQ tests only measure your cognitive abilities. It has nothing to do with what you have learned prior to college.

how is 130 impressive for an iq anyways? I'm 140 some odd and i'm at the low end of my class.

how is 130 impressive for an iq anyways? I'm 140 some odd and i'm at the low end of my class.

130 is close to genius, genius regarded as around 140. However it has little bearing on how ou perform at school etc. I can tell from your posts that you're intelligent though. :D
My IQ is a bit embarassing though. :p Especially when you consider that I was 13 at the time...

And Oksana, that's very true. IQ tests also tend to be skewed toward non-verball reasoning and a particular kind of verbal reasoning which may have little or no bearing on how well you do at uni/school. And I have a nickname! :D

how is 130 impressive for an iq anyways? I'm 140 some odd and i'm at the low end of my class.
Well if 95-105 is average, than you ought to be proud of a 140. That is usually considered "genius". Mine's roughly 135.

Are you sure 130 is a genius? I'm at 143 and I'm a ditzy blonde.

Yup, I just checked Mensa. :)

I think I'll have to take over. Just to make sure.

Mensa? Haaahahahaah.

Just a bunch of disgruntled dorks who make things up and label them as "tests". I breezed through their Mighty Brainteasers book when i was 13.

If you're gonna take an intelligence test... Don't do it through Mensa! It's total bullshit.

I'm thinking the ones at tickle.com are more credible.

I wouldn't trust those, either. They look to be just as much of a sham.

Then where should I go?

But but... I did a full-on proper Mensa one, administered by a psychologist! :p

My secondary plan is being an entreprenuer (not sure of the spelling) and running my own business, so that I can become wealthy that way, entirely on my own work. What I've thought about is starting a store that only sells american products, and portray it through marketing, as a place for patriotic people to buy their products, as opposed to places which sell communist made (Chinese) goods.

Most people with business degrees though, are complete morons that go to school for the wrong reasons (pick up girls, drinking, and the frat lifestyle) not for studying, and moving on in life. George W. Bush was that type in college, and he's only where he is because of his dad. He relied on his dad for everything.


Don't worry, no one can spell that word, it's French. But I'll tell you, it's going to be expensive, so you better be really really good ar marketing those products. People would rather buy cheaply made Chinese things then expensive, hand crafted stuff made in the local country. Unless you're selling specificly to the middle and upper classes.

As for the most people in collage. I'll give you some advice if you live in a dorm, or in residence on campus. The first semester doesn't matter.
That's when all the party people show up. By the beginning of second semester, most of them have either dropped out or shapened up because they're failing, or going to fail.
In fact, I would highly reccomend that you live off campus. It's much better.

And of course, collage is filled with girls, very hot girls.
This isn't always a bad thing, you may actually find someoe you like and want to be with for the rest of your life?
Can we say Burt and Heather? (Tremors refrence)

*Disclaimer: I'm part French, I can make fun of my own linguistic background, bwahahahahahahaha.

But but... I did a full-on proper Mensa one, administered by a psychologist! :p

I had something like that when I was tested recently (to see if I was dylexic enough to qualify for various things), when I say like that I mean by a psychologist, I don't think it was a Mensa test though.

The thing was the scares were broken down into various categories, Verbal comprehension, processing speed and a couple of other ones that I have forgotten.

The thing is I got 'genius' (inverted commas important imo) levels in a couple of them and below average in another (slightly above average in the last I think).

I was already a bit skeptical about IQ tests anyway. Now I am both skeptical and confused, since I now seem to be a stupid genius. :confused:

I had something like that when I was tested recently (to see if I was dylexic enough to qualify for various things), when I say like that I mean by a psychologist, I don't think it was a Mensa test though.

The thing was the scares were broken down into various categories, Verbal comprehension, processing speed and a couple of other ones that I have forgotten.

The thing is I got 'genius' (inverted commas important imo) levels in a couple of them and below average in another (slightly above average in the last I think).

I was already a bit skeptical about IQ tests anyway. Now I am both skeptical and confused, since I now seem to be a stupid genius.
I know what you mean. When I was 13 I scored 166 on the mensa test.

Then, when I wanted to get into medicine I took a test called the UMAT, it's similar to an IQ test and is for health science admissions... My scored were odd. You get them in a form of the percentage of candidates you beat. IN verbal i beat 100 % of the cadidates. (that was a nice surprise) then in non-verbal I beat only 15% of candidates. So I'm a verbal genius and a non-verbal moron. :D

I know what you mean. When I was 13 I scored 166 on the mensa test.

Then, when I wanted to get into medicine I took a test called the UMAT, it's similar to an IQ test and is for health science admissions... My scored were odd. You get them in a form of the percentage of candidates you beat. IN verbal i beat 100 % of the cadidates. (that was a nice surprise) then in non-verbal I beat only 15% of candidates. So I'm a verbal genius and a non-verbal moron. :D

Heh, I think I was the opposite.

Although I cannot help thinking if I took the test now if it would be different. The time I took the test was just after the holidays at the beginning of my first semester of uni, with the holidays being me not thinking much (I mean, temping doesn't require that much brain power).

Not that I care, I am officially shit at writing and get to do my exams on a University computer (supervised of coarse) :D

Not that I care, I am officially shit at writing and get to do my exams on a University computer (supervised of coarse)
I'm just glad that Melbourne Uni double-weights the verbal section of the test! :D

Some colleges require an IQ test? I wasn't aware of that. :confused:

I'm just glad that Melbourne Uni double-weights the verbal section of the test! :D
Yay! It's all good. :D

Some colleges require an IQ test? I wasn't aware of that. :confused:
Unless you're planning on doing Medicine, Dentistry or Physiotherapy in Australia (or possibly other Asia-Pacific countries- not sure though) I wouldn't worry. :p

And it's technically not an IQ test, it's similar to scholarship exams? ACER (http://www.acer.edu.au/) runs the tests. Yeah, it's an Aussie thing.

Yes. The problem with IQ tests is that you have to be quick for them. Some people are extremely intelligent, but process things ever-so-slightly slower than others, and it hurts them in this regard.

Several medical conditions can also hide somebody's "true" intelligence.

And I can spell entrepreneur. You know the one in the class that corrects the teacher? that's me.

Gee. I must be the only one who doesn't know what her IQ is. I know back in my teens I was tested to see if I could handle college level work (I was applying for money from Department of Vocational Rehabilitation and it was required). I know the person administering the test was impressed, but I have no recollection of any number they came up with.

After I go to a 4 year college, and I have decided whether or not to go into the military (dependent on the 2008 election, the draft and if/when if might come back, and the situation then), there are 2 routes I will take. The first one is as a CO in the US army, followed by afterwards going to a 2 year business school, then entering a career in the corporate world.
In the military, you will not be CO of ANYTHING for AT LEAST 15 years, and that's only IF you ever become CO of anything. There are an awful lot of career O-3's and O-4's. To be a CO of anything, you need to be an O-5 or better. Just a bit of a reality check for ya. :cool:

In the military, you will not be CO of ANYTHING for AT LEAST 15 years, and that's only IF you ever become CO of anything. There are an awful lot of career O-3's and O-4's. To be a CO of anything, you need to be an O-5 or better. Just a bit of a reality check for ya. :cool:

I thought it was fairly obvious that by CO he meant Commissioned Officer and not the regular meaning. hmm CO stands for Commanding Officer or something similar normally doesn’t it?

I applied to many Universities this year, and I have to wait until April 1 to get acceptance and rejection leters. AND I"M REALLYY IMPATIENT!!!!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:


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In the military, you will not be CO of ANYTHING for AT LEAST 15 years, and that's only IF you ever become CO of anything. There are an awful lot of career O-3's and O-4's. To be a CO of anything, you need to be an O-5 or better. Just a bit of a reality check for ya. :cool:

That'd be Commisioned Officer. I want to go into the Army. In my family lineage I am a descendent of people from: the Revoltionary War, Civil War, World War I, Korean War, and someone from the mayflower.

About the IQ thing:

I made a mistake in how I typed this out. I think that only people with an IQ above 130 (the top 5%) should be doctors, surgeons, and other jobs that require an additional study. I'll post what I would like in my ideal country, at a different time.

Here is a very good site with stuff about IQ's http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/

EDIT: Upon further research by myself, I am going to re-evaluate my view on IQs and education.

Never mind that IQ tests only measure how good you are at IQ tests... Take my brother for example, he sucks at IQ tests, really badly, but managed to get into the honours program in his economics degree...

Yeah, we should base University entrance on IQ...

No, IQ tests truly are a measure of intelligence, just because someone is in an honors class, does not mean they're smart. At my school, there is a group of stupid people that are in honors classes because they study and do homework for 3 hours every night.

The key phrase you have in there is that you will "buy a farm".

I certainly hope not.

Since your plans include going to a MBA school immediately after college, it won't be a good one. Virtually all Tier 1 and Tier 2 MBA schools just about require 2+ years of work experience and most average between 3 and 5 years of work experience.

I was under the impression that it was possible to enroll directly after college.

I always have a plan :)

At school, I always have a plan in case, say, someone starts shooting, or pulls a knife on me. I'm always on the lookout for "suspicious" happenings, such as people watch my movements, watching me, photographing me, or anything else.

Outside of school, I always have a plan, when I see a suspicious person walk by me, I reach for my knife, and turn around to make sure they aren't turning around to do something to me. A good example of this would be tonight when a homeless man gave me a bad look when he walked by me.

At home, I keep a club next to my bed, and ready to go. I also keep my cellphone and phone in my room, about 4 feet from my bed.

I know people are going to say I'm paranoid, but I consider it "prepareadness". In the future months, I plan on buying >6 months of MRE's for 5 people (mainly for myself), a telescopic baton (to replace my club), SAP Gloves (http://www.selfdefenseweapons.com/sapgloves.htm), and various survailence equipment.


Wow, that's some way to live. And to think, so many philosophers have worried about having societies in which none of that would be necessary.

I'm curious what you'll major in as well. I find it ironic that you will attend a liberal arts college in the first place.


I want to attend a liberal arts college because I think it will give me the best backround for working in a business enviroment. I'd major in Business Management. I want to be management, like my dad and stepmom, though my dad majored in finance, and then went on to Harvard to study government. My stepmom majored in business, then went onto MIT's business school.

No, IQ tests truly are a measure of intelligence, just because someone is in an honors class, does not mean they're smart. At my school, there is a group of stupid people that are in honors classes because they study and do homework for 3 hours every night.

Wait, so, someone who is manages to get their schoolwork done by studying and therefore potentially do things that matter in the real world is "stupid" whereas someone who can figure out which of five numbers the word DEVIL is analogous to is "smart"?

Don't worry, no one can spell that word, it's French. But I'll tell you, it's going to be expensive, so you better be really really good ar marketing those products. People would rather buy cheaply made Chinese things then expensive, hand crafted stuff made in the local country. Unless you're selling specificly to the middle and upper classes.

As for the most people in collage. I'll give you some advice if you live in a dorm, or in residence on campus. The first semester doesn't matter.
That's when all the party people show up. By the beginning of second semester, most of them have either dropped out or shapened up because they're failing, or going to fail.
In fact, I would highly reccomend that you live off campus. It's much better.

And of course, collage is filled with girls, very hot girls.
This isn't always a bad thing, you may actually find someoe you like and want to be with for the rest of your life?


I would gear my store towards all the classes. What I would do, is aggressively market my products by exposing China for what it is, Communist. I would also promote the purchase of American goods as patriotic, and the purchase of non-American products as treasonous, and traitorous.

Oh, good. I want to go to college to learn, not party or "discover who I am". I don't like taking public transportation, and I don't want to go to an urban school.

I don't plan on having sex until I'm married, and I plan on getting married after college, or at the tail end, like my parents did.

Wait, so, someone who is manages to get their schoolwork done by studying and therefore potentially do things that matter in the real world is "stupid" whereas someone who can figure out which of five numbers the word DEVIL is analogous to is "smart"?

So someone that spends 3 hours a night, memorizing something for the short term is smarter than someone that does 30 minutes of homework, memorizes all the terms, and gets a 100 the next day?

The reason stupid people end up in college is because they spend a lot of time studying, and not playing nationstates, I think that most of the people (65%) on here, truly are smart.

The people that think grades are a sign of intelligence are the stupid ones, because they think intelligence can be shown in terms of a teacher's goal.

The key phrase you have in there is that you will "buy a farm".

I certainly hope not.


Why not?

The kind of farm I would like would be one that is self-sufficient, and I'd mostly grow my own food.

So someone that spends 3 hours a night, memorizing something for the short term is smarter than someone that does 30 minutes of homework, memorizes all the terms, and gets a 100 the next day?

The reason stupid people end up in college is because they spend a lot of time studying, and not playing nationstates, I think that most of the people (65%) on here, truly are smart.

The people that think grades are a sign of intelligence are the stupid ones, because they think intelligence can be shown in terms of a teacher's goal.

Did I say anything about them being smarter than someone who does that? No, and neither did you, until now. Being able to memorize terms in 30 minutes or whatever isn't directly related to IQ scores in any case.

I don't think it matters if you think someone is "stupid" if they manage to get the same work done as the "smart" people, regardless of whether or not they have to work harder or longer for the same result.

An IQ score isn't essentially the same as a grade? You're just working toward the exam creator's goals.

Originally posted by Kahta
No, IQ tests truly are a measure of intelligence, just because someone is in an honors class, does not mean they're smart. At my school, there is a group of stupid people that are in honors classes because they study and do homework for 3 hours every night.

That is not true. People who are studying to be doctors, surgeons, lawyers, etc. need to have more than a good IQ. A good IQ means nothing about your abilites except your likelihood to respond to learning. You can have a good IQ, but lack the education necessary for such a study.

In the military, you will not be CO of ANYTHING for AT LEAST 15 years, and that's only IF you ever become CO of anything. There are an awful lot of career O-3's and O-4's. To be a CO of anything, you need to be an O-5 or better. Just a bit of a reality check for ya.

That'd be Commisioned Officer. I want to go into the Army. In my family lineage I am a descendent of people from: the Revoltionary War, Civil War, World War I, Korean War, and someone from the mayflower.

And? I'm sorry, but your response has nothing to do with my original comment, so now I am thoroughly confused on what you mean.

What has your lineage got to do with anything?

The "O" ranks are commissioned officers, which are what you need to be if you want a command, are in all branches of the service, including the Army.

ROTC can get you a commission, but you will start off as an O-1 and have to work your way up. You will not be able to have a CO position for AT LEAST 14 years, assuming you make rank every time you come up to the promotion board.

No, IQ tests truly are a measure of intelligence, just because someone is in an honors class, does not mean they're smart. At my school, there is a group of stupid people that are in honors classes because they study and do homework for 3 hours every night.
It also matters WHICH IQ test one takes. Different tests will give different results. The more in depth and longer the test takes, the more accurate it likely is. The best IQ test I've taken was about 3 days long.

Hi, I know that a lot of you are going to ridicule me for posting my life plan, but I'm going to post it anyways, because I feel like it.

My plan is to go into a traditional 4 year liberal arts college, I'm interested in University of Vermont, Norwich, and a few other schools that offer Army ROTC along with liberal arts education. After I go to a 4 year college, and I have decided whether or not to go into the military (dependent on the 2008 election, the draft and if/when if might come back, and the situation then), there are 2 routes I will take. The first one is as a CO in the US army, followed by afterwards going to a 2 year business school, then entering a career in the corporate world. The second option, is going to a 2 year business school, then entering a career in the business world.

The reason I want to pursue a additional business degree afterwards, is because that is the way to get ahead these days, and to distinguish oneself from the pack. College (4 year colleges) these days is being swamped with people that shouldn't be there for a variety of reasons, ranging from the losers that go there to party and pick up girls, to people that simply are not smart enough (<130 IQ), to people that are only there because of affirmative action. Additionally, my stepmother got this additional degree after she went to college. She for a time, was a high ranking executive for a fortune 500 corporation. She's been to "at least 50 countries" and 5 continents, and I wish to do the same, but one difference, when I have enough money to live off the interest, I will buy a farm, take my kids there, and live on the farm. In order to inherit any of my wealth, they will have to prove their moral and physical character. (Like Carnegie's view on inheritence)


And MBAs are rare commodities?

quote="Kahta" - Third of all, I'm not the type of person to sit back on the sidelines as I watch people get away with the rules, I know it won't make me popular, but I like to see justice served. At school I'm [good] friends with a select group of people that share similar values to myself in regards to justice. - /quote


This really does disqualify you from corporate business, or any business at all for that matter.

You might try law enforcement or something along those lines. A military background is fantastic in those fields.

Alternatively, you could go to law school and become a prosecutor.

And MBAs are rare commodities?



This really does disqualify you from corporate business, or any business at all for that matter.

You might try law enforcement or something along those lines. A military background is fantastic in those fields.

Alternatively, you could go to law school and become a prosecutor.

Not as rare as I wish they were:)

No, I'd run a good business, one that made a positive impact on the world. I would return morals to business, something big-business has been lacking for the last 25 years. Since Reagan business has become unregulated, and more cut-throat.

Problem is, I want to make a good living, and police officers do not make a good living. I would however, consider a military career as an officer as maybe an MP.

And? I'm sorry, but your response has nothing to do with my original comment, so now I am thoroughly confused on what you mean.

What has your lineage got to do with anything?

The "O" ranks are commissioned officers, which are what you need to be if you want a command, are in all branches of the service, including the Army.

ROTC can get you a commission, but you will start off as an O-1 and have to work your way up. You will not be able to have a CO position for AT LEAST 14 years, assuming you make rank every time you come up to the promotion board.

meh, just felt like saying it.

I was thinking CO as in "commisioned officer", the same way that NCO's are non-commisioned officers.

I'd only go into the military as an officer, enlisted levels are for people that will take orders and not think. I think too much to be effective at an enlisted level.

Did I say anything about them being smarter than someone who does that? No, and neither did you, until now. Being able to memorize terms in 30 minutes or whatever isn't directly related to IQ scores in any case.

I don't think it matters if you think someone is "stupid" if they manage to get the same work done as the "smart" people, regardless of whether or not they have to work harder or longer for the same result.

An IQ score isn't essentially the same as a grade? You're just working toward the exam creator's goals.

A retarded person can learn things, it just takes a very long time for them to do so. On the other hand, mental "disabilites" such as autism can let someone learn something in a matter of seconds, but they're also capable of doing many things that no one can do, but they're emotionally immature.

*The reason a put disabilities in quotations is because I do not think autisic people and those like that, are as stupid as they are assumed to be. They're very good at things like codes, puzzles, and math.

No, an IQ score is no way like a grade because it measures potential, a grade measures how much work one does or how much information one learns. It does not take things into account such as social enviroment, lack of caring, and other things. Last year, I got the best grade in my history class, and I screwed around all the time, including being sent to the office several times. A grade can also be influenced by other things, such as teachers grading some kids harder than others. My english teacher this year, held me to a higher standard than everyone else in the class in regards to work, but I scored in the middle of the class, because I was held to the work standards her honors class had.

The reason I don't like stupid people, is because they're not smart enough to function on a college level, if they're maxed out in high school, what are they going to do in college?

It also matters WHICH IQ test one takes. Different tests will give different results. The more in depth and longer the test takes, the more accurate it likely is. The best IQ test I've taken was about 3 days long.

Yeah, usually with tests, the longer they are, the more accurate they are.

No, IQ tests truly are a measure of intelligence, just because someone is in an honors class, does not mean they're smart. At my school, there is a group of stupid people that are in honors classes because they study and do homework for 3 hours every night.
So hard work is a bad thing? They might be a little overworked, but if they can actually handle the curriculum, then they should be allowed to stay int he classes. If anything you should be worried about the kids who just cheat and bullshit their way through school.

What I would do, is aggressively market my products by exposing China for what it is, Communist. I would also promote the purchase of American goods as patriotic, and the purchase of non-American products as treasonous, and traitorous.

Oh, good. I want to go to college to learn, not party or "discover who I am". I don't like taking public transportation, and I don't want to go to an urban school.

First of all, I can't think of anything more Capitalist than the idea of being able to import inexpensive goods and sell them at competitive prices, which allow for a greater amount of people in this country the ability to afford what can only be considered "luxury" items. If it weren't for fair trade and the importing of these goods and technologies, only the extremely wealthy could afford things like stereos, nice cars, MP3 players, Playstations and the computers that you are reading this off of right now. You have to remember that communism is not a synonymm for evil or facism. It is merely an economic/political philosophy. Our economic relationships with Eastern Asian economies is far from perfect, but it is MUTUALLY beneficial. You cannot focus only on THEIR benefit, to do so makes the relationship seem one between a victim and a victimizer. I assure you, there is no victim in this case. We benefit from this type of trade just as much as they do.

I'm not trying to convince you that your idea for a retail store is a bad one. However, I will say that calling Americans who purchase foreign made goods "traitors" is going a bit too far. Using your hard earned money to buy whatever you want in order to increase your standard of living is as American (and capitalist) as Apple Pie and Baseball. It's as American as respectfully disagreeing with your sitting President. It's those freedoms that we, as Americans, take for granted.

Secondly, I think everyone needs to always "rediscover who they are." The world is a constantly changing, evolving landscape, and each individual has to be able to adapt and change with it. Now I don't mean you have to go to school and smoke weed, become a "hippie" and conform to mainstream pop-culture values. But don't think, especially at such a young age, that you know who you are and what you will be for the rest of your life. When I started college I intended on becoming a software engineer, mostly because I wanted to make a lot of money and live comfortably. It took me three quarters and a course in assembly language to show me that I hated computer programming. I can only imagine how miserable I would be right now if I hadn't listened to what my heart was telling me and changed my course. I found that I loved Economics and Film Theory and Writing. I may not be able to retire at 45, but I am happy. God I am happy. Just make sure that your plans don't get in the way of your happiness.

Okay, rant = done.

I was under the impression that it was possible to enroll directly after college.
Possible? Sure. But go ahead and do a check on Wharton, Insead, Tuck, Kellogg, UC Irvine/Davis, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, USC etc... You'll find that virtually no one enrolls directly after college.

You can certainly do it, but it won't be a good school that takes you with no experience. You could go to Dartmouth and be valedictorian and the Tuck school of business (Dartmouth’s) may or may not take you straight out of College.

Most MBA programs do require or prefer a couple years of experience before they accept applicants.

I dont know that law schools are the same.

Possible? Sure. But go ahead and do a check on Wharton, Insead, Tuck, Kellogg, UC Irvine/Davis, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, USC etc... You'll find that virtually no one enrolls directly after college.

You can certainly do it, but it won't be a good school that takes you with no experience. You could go to Dartmouth and be valedictorian and the Tuck school of business (Dartmouth’s) may or may not take you straight out of College.


hmm

Maybe I'll be the exception :)

So hard work is a bad thing? They might be a little overworked, but if they can actually handle the curriculum, then they should be allowed to stay int he classes. If anything you should be worried about the kids who just cheat and bullshit their way through school.

If they're maxed out in high school why should they go to college?

The kids that cheat and bullshit their way through school are in the normal classes, because to be in any honors class requires that you read the work. Those kids are mostly jocks and losers anyways.

I'm a sophomore, so I'm beginning to think about colleges. I've always had my heart set on the University of Michigan, mainly because I want to major in Political Science. Other schools on the shortlist include George Washington, Villanova, U-Cal Berkeley, and Boston College. Anybody else recommend good Poli-Sci programs? Preferably in the U.S.

Georgetown University.. It has one of the best programs (and has the best faculty for political science)... IM applying there for my masters degree in Foregin Service...

I'd like to point out a few things, that have already been pointed out.

If you join the military, you are in for 4 years, no matter what. And they want you longer, you cannot do anything about it. To get an CO Rank, takes at least 15 years, MAYBE 10 if your lucky. The military isn't some 2 year fling. As you seem to think it is. And you cannot get out of basic training, I know you didn't say anything about that, just saying that no one can get out of it.

And an " American Made " store, A bit stupid if you ask me. You would lack stuff like MP3 and CD players. Even American Companys, Such as Apple and Dell, are built in China.

If you wanted a shiny new Apple iPod, would you buy one for 2,000 dollars because it was made in america? Or pay 400 Dollars for one that was made in china? They both are built exactly the same. And considering they dont make ANY MP3's in the USA, or computers for that matter.

Have fun selling lawn mowers and shovels!

while i didn't go through all of the posts to see if anyone else mentioned this...

have you ever thought of getting a degree in engineering? you can get an excellent job, with a good salary. if you're interested in business more, there are such degrees as industrial engineering and engineering management (which are basically the same thing).

i dunno, when i was in school, us engineers always thought of the busniess degree as the easy way out (no offense). a technical degree coupled with an mba looks very good to employers

I'd like to point out a few things, that have already been pointed out.

If you join the military, you are in for 4 years, no matter what. And they want you longer, you cannot do anything about it. To get an CO Rank, takes at least 15 years, MAYBE 10 if your lucky. The military isn't some 2 year fling. As you seem to think it is. And you cannot get out of basic training, I know you didn't say anything about that, just saying that no one can get out of it.

And an " American Made " store, A bit stupid if you ask me. You would lack stuff like MP3 and CD players. Even American Companys, Such as Apple and Dell, are built in China.

If you wanted a shiny new Apple iPod, would you buy one for 2,000 dollars because it was made in america? Or pay 400 Dollars for one that was made in china? They both are built exactly the same. And considering they dont make ANY MP3's in the USA, or computers for that matter.

Have fun selling lawn mowers and shovels!

I ment CO as in commisioned Officer. I woudln't make a decision to use an ROTC Scholarship until I had to, my family can afford me going without a scholarship.

The reason they are built in China is because its 75 cents an hour there. A simpler solution to the China problem would be a 100% tarrif on all imported electronics from Asian countries. They don't buy much from us anyways, so it wouldn't hurt our economy. They can't afford to buy anything from us.

Computers are made in the US, mine was. Its parts were not, but if I could have bought an all-American computer I would have. I find it funny though, that people like to make a bit of a mockery of me, when I try to make America a better place. They act as though globalization is good, but what it really is, is a redistribution of the wealth which shafts the middle class, and doesn't make any bigger of a market for Americans.

while i didn't go through all of the posts to see if anyone else mentioned this...

have you ever thought of getting a degree in engineering? you can get an excellent job, with a good salary. if you're interested in business more, there are such degrees as industrial engineering and engineering management (which are basically the same thing).

i dunno, when i was in school, us engineers always thought of the busniess degree as the easy way out (no offense). a technical degree coupled with an mba looks very good to employers

I've thought of engineering, and its still an option.