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Over in the "[violet] = Max Barry?" thread, I came upon a revelation as to who Max Barry truly is. But since not a great many of you read that thread, I have decided it would be best if I also posted it here.
(from http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8382808&postcount=1203)

Using my immense knowledge of the occult and the secret inner workings of the universe, I have finally determined Max's identity.

Here, to start:

By Pythagorean method, Max's First name number is 7, middle name number is 0, and last name number is 5. His basic number is 3. 3 means faith, religion, and destiny. Max's full number is also 3. His name value is 300, meaning philosophy,knowledge, and protection.

By tarot method, Max's name number is 2. 2 is The Priestess:
Symbol of the divine Sophia, creative imagination (allied to the creative will), Isis or Maya. Symbolizes the Gnosis, the creative power, attraction and repulsion, the law of the sexes, chemical affinity, imagination.

I am beginning to notice some fascinating parallels. Are you?

By Qabalistic method of tarot keys:
Max's first name number is 2, The Priestess again. His last name number is 7, The Chariot of Osiris:
The knowledge of the seven principles, magnetic power, intellection, sensation, fulfillment of ambitions.

His basic number is 9 The Hermit, or Veiled Lamp:
Denotes incarnation, prudence, circumspection, classification, selection, science, discovery, carefulness.

Much of this revolves about the female, the religous, and carefulness. Along with the "fulfillment of ambitions", I declare that Max roleplays a very religious female on the forums. "The fulfillment of ambitions" is Max being happy nobody can figure out that it's him!

Here is his 100 Year's Progression:

1973 + 20 = 1993 = 22;
Folly
Necessity, privation, egotism, credulity, error, vanity, blindness, ruin, insanity.
1993 + 22 = 2015 = 8;
Justice
The sword and balance. Denotes retribution, judgment, reason, moderation, temperance, impartiality.
2015 + 8 = 2023 = 7;
The Chariot of Osiris
The knowledge of the seven principles, magnetic power, intellection, sensation, fulfillment of ambitions.
2023 + 7 = 2030 = 5;
The Hierophant or Master
Denotes the universal law, religion, discipline, precept and teaching. Liberty, regulation.
2030 + 5 = 2035 = 10;
The Sphinx or Wheel of Fortune
Cause and effect, the moral law, periodicity, revolution, circulation.
2035 + 10 = 2045 = 11;
The Muzzled Lion
Denotes power, force, determination, conquest, direction of force, mastery, vitality.
2045 + 11 = 2056 = 13;
Death the Reaper
Change, reaction, disappointment, denial, catalepsy, collapse, ruin and death.
2056 + 13 = 2069 = 17;
The Star
Faith, assurance, hope, illumination, intuition, birth, success, expectations.
2069 + 17 = 2086 = 16;
The Stricken Tower
Sudden calamity, pride of intellect, ostentation, cataclysms, earthquakes, storms, overthrow, accidents.

This tells us little of use in identifying Max, but it does tell us that Max will live an oddly long life. he will fall sick in 2056, and succumb to his illness in 2069. This in some way heralds geat sadness and lamentations ending in a calamity in 2086. That doesn't help us, though. I can make out nothing usefl in it.

Here is something interesting with the Qabalah of Cycles:

2005 + 32 = 12
The Sacrific:Spiritual debasement, reversal, overthrow, inversion, madness, depolarization, loss, undoing.

2006 + 33 = 14
The Two Urns:The vital forces, friendship, social obligations, reciprocal affection, chemistry.

2007 + 34 = 7
The Chariot of Osiris:The knowledge of the seven principles, magnetic power, intellection, sensation, fulfillment of ambitions.

2008 + 35 = 9
The Hermit or Veiled Lamp:Denotes incarnation, prudence, circumspection, classification, selection, science, discovery, carefulness.

We now know that we will find out who Max is within the year. There will be a period of peace, satisfaction, and happiness for two years. Then Max's nation will mysteriously disappear, and the cycle will begin anew.

There are some other very interesting things that the Qabalah of Cycles has foretold, but they are at the moment irrelevant.

Continuing:
Max's Qabalah chart has shown me little. it does, however, have interesting parallels with the number 3 many times. Three can signify a great many things, but one persisting theme is that of a Holy Trinity. Creation, preservation, and resolution are another theme in 3. Another is The Family. Combining this also with the trinity of Past, Present, and Future, here is what I conclude:

Max is [violet], but also someone else. Max is The Creator, [violet] is The Protector, and the Face of Max that we see and yet never notice, is Death, finalizing the cycle. When Max is revealed for the second time, a great tragedy will befall NS, and there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I propose that as we cannot halt the great Hand of Chronos's steady advance of time, we must search posthaste for Max's other identity. Remember, religious females, and from what I understand it seems to me as though this would be a female well-versed in an occult religion rather than a mainstream one.
The true face of Max must be revealed, the Qabalah foretells it!

So, who is Max?
A wise female Wiccan, is what it seems the Qabalah foretells to me.

*peers around suspiciously at everyone*
Who will it be?

Sheeeeit.

Am I the only one who read that and got lost after about the third line, but blundered on through in the hope my brain could interpret something useful from the mass of information there?

Am I the only one who read that and got lost after about the third line, but blundered on through in the hope my brain could interpret something useful from the mass of information there?
No.

Me too.

Make that more simple Neo my brain died.

I am most definitally not Max.


No really, look at the equations, I can't be Max.


So.. process of elimination!

Am I the only one who read that and got lost after about the third line, but blundered on through in the hope my brain could interpret something useful from the mass of information there?
Probably. Most likely everybody else just stopped at the third line and either had a profound revelation and wandered off, or killed themselves on the spot.

I'd bet everybody just didn't read it, but deluding myself into thinking they did and something important happened is so much more fun!

In other news, I'm not wearing any pants.

So, who is Max?
A wise female Wiccan, is what it seems the Qabalah foretells to me.

*peers around suspiciously at everyone*
Who will it be?


Wait? isn't that you?

oh my... a revelation indeed.

Thank god for that. Any chance of a summary in words of one syllable or less? My right eye still seems to be twitching uncontrollably from utter confusion.

EDIT: Scratch that. Having sprayed coffee over the screen at reading the "In other news..." line, my eye has now stopped its twitching. Happy days.

So, who is Max?
A wise female Wiccan, is what it seems the Qabalah foretells to me.

rules you out then :p ;)


Am I the only one who read that and got lost after about the third line, but blundered on through in the hope my brain could interpret something useful from the mass of information there?
nope :)

Make that more simple Neo my brain died.
Here's the long and short of it:
Max is [violet]. But Max's main nation is also on the forums, and he masquerades as a wise female Wiccan, or possibly another occult religion, but Wiccan seems most likely to me. Also, Max's main nation will be revealed to us within the year.

*munches on a taco*

Any chance of a summary in words of one syllable or less?
Boo!

Aaah.

I saw mention of Ma'at and my mind just went off.

You know how it is. Plus i didnt see any Heirophant, tut tut.

OK, im shutting up now :D.

Boo!
Feindishly clever.

Gee, thanks for that useful summary. I'll just go back and read it again. I may be gone some time.

Aaah.

I saw mention of Ma'at and my mind just went off.

You know how it is. Plus i didnt see any Heirophant, tut tut.

OK, im shutting up now :D.


But Kronos was present! Kronos demands your respect a million times! As was ISIS! The two best deities!

(Well.... Astaroth is cool too.)

But Kronos was present! Kronos demands your respect a million times! As was ISIS! The two best deities!

(Well.... Astaroth is cool too.)
Oh shit, I got the titan Kronos confused with the egregore/godform Chronos and used the wrong name.

Piffle.

It's still understandable, though.

Isis is cool, but only because i gave her name to one of my characters for PSO (EP I&II).

Kronos - meh

Ma'at though, the godess of truth and justice that lives in a house on an ilsand away from the rest of the gods. THey ask her for her opinion on a subject. She gives an answer. They ignore it.

Egyptian mythology is the best.

Oh shit, I got the titan Kronos confused with the egregore/godform Chronos and used the wrong name.

Piffle.

It's still understandable, though.

Wait? What one did you mean? Chronos or Kronos? I didn't know there was two of them, so I automatically transliterated it to be Kronos because that's the spelling I prefer to use. So you might have got the right one unless you've already checked and it's wrong.

*Backs away slowly towards the door*







*Runs*

Wait? What one did you mean? Chronos or Kronos? I didn't know there was two of them, so I automatically transliterated it to be Kronos because that's the spelling I prefer to use. So you might have got the right one unless you've already checked and it's wrong.
I meant Kronos. But I said Chronos. Although since plenty of people call Kronos Chronos, if I didn't mention it my mistake of thinking Kronos/Chronos was the other Chronos, it wouldn't have been evident at all.

Damn. Foiled again.

Isis is cool, but only because i gave her name to one of my characters for PSO (EP I&II).

Kronos - meh

Ma'at though, the godess of truth and justice that lives in a house on an ilsand away from the rest of the gods. THey ask her for her opinion on a subject. She gives an answer. They ignore it.

Egyptian mythology is the best.

Aside from Isis, Set and Anubis, Egyptian mythology is crappy. Greek mythology is where its at. Norse is cool too, especially the Nidhogg and Yggdrasil. And Jormungandr. And Odin. Hell, Norse is equally cool as Greek.
You can't beat Greek though. just equal it. This is my decree.

I meant Kronos. But I said Chronos. Although since plenty of people call Kronos Chronos, if I didn't mention it my mistake of thinking Kronos/Chronos was the other Chronos, it wouldn't have been evident at all.

Damn. Foiled again.

And by me, no less. You should be getting used to it by now. I'm thinking of giving you a sympathy point.... nah... you don't deserve one.

(to eliminate any confusion, you could just call him Saturn.) It'd be wrong, but they are roughly equivalent. Also I doubt you could be bothered. I know I wouldn't.

Aside from Isis, Set and Anubis, Egyptian mythology is crappy. Greek mythology is where its at. Norse is cool too, especially the Nidhogg and Yggdrasil. And Jormungandr. And Odin. Hell, Norse is equally cool as Greek.
You can't beat Greek though. just equal it. This is my decree.
Get your hide away with ye.

The first born are nothing comapred ot the rest of the egyptian gods who pottered about having this like contests to see who could hold their breaths longest underwater whilst in the form of hippos.

And the like...

Did norse or greek gods do that. No the only cool thing they ever did was when Pan died.

Aside from Isis, Set and Anubis, Egyptian mythology is crappy. Greek mythology is where its at. Norse is cool too, especially the Nidhogg and Yggdrasil. And Jormungandr. And Odin. Hell, Norse is equally cool as Greek.
You can't beat Greek though. just equal it. This is my decree.
We have Cuchuillin and all that stuff :cool:

Get your hide away with ye.

The first born are nothing comapred ot the rest of the egyptian gods who pottered about having this like contests to see who could hold their breaths longest underwater whilst in the form of hippos.

And the like...

Did norse or greek gods do that. No the only cool thing they ever did was when Pan died.


Yes they did. Thor had a drinking contest with giants (which was the ocean), wrestled one of their kittens *which happened to be a representation of Jormungandr and nearly destroyed the world, and wrestled the giants nanny! (death) whilst the Greek gods, specifically Zeus, enjoyed seducing the ladies whilst in the forms of assorted animals. like swans or bulls. For no reason at all other than he was the king of the Gods.

But Ra (i think it was) has a drinking contest with Sekhmet the lioness godess of war beacuse he'd sent her out to kill mankind, but got cold feet before she got there and the only way to stop her was to get her too drunk to fight.

But Ra (i think it was) has a drinking contest with Sekhmet the lioness godess of war beacuse he'd sent her out to kill mankind, but got cold feet before she got there and the only way to stop her was to get her too drunk to fight.

But he also gives up some of his supermagic power to Isis just because she said his name, meaning she supplanted him as the chief God. So Ra sucked.

Max is Lord of all he surveys.

That's it.

As of reaching the third page, this thread has 108 views. The number of this thread is 9. 9 is The Hermit:
Self-conscious initiative, character, distinction, discretion, direction, skill, dexterity, potential with restraint.

9 is Yud. Yud is an open hand. Yud is a symbol of divine essence, and the first letter of the Tetragrammaton. There are some other steps involved which I am leaving out for space's sake, but Yod symbolizes heaven and the androgyne.

This is the world of interior thought and reflection; the wellspring of ideas and personal transformation.


From these divinations, I propose that this foretells this thread's correctness. Due to the interesting parallels between this srcying and the previous, I see beyond the veil and call out that my hand is guided by a divine essence! I am almost sure that a higher being guides this divination due to this latest development. Now nothing can hold back the hand of fate!

youre either really bored or high

or both. both would be good

In other news, I'm not wearing any pants.
omg... it all makes sense now! i too see the truth of Max!

youre either really bored or high

or both. both would be good
Both would be good, wouldn't it...
Unfortunately, I'm only bored at the moment.
:(

Both would be good, wouldn't it...
Unfortunately, I'm only bored at the moment.
:(
you need some
http://www.engrish.com/image/engrish/happy-drug.jpg

I could be Max!
If I was wise...
And female...
and wiccan...

Bump!
We cannot let the sacred knowledge die!

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[Moderator Edit - Cogitation] Nor can we let the forum window width be broken! :p [/modedit]

You better keep your eyes open with all this occult stuff around. I know you probably don't expect the Spanish Inquisition....



Crazy guy in red robes: NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!!


Me: Ah shit...

Max is the almighty answer to the question of Life, the Universe, and Everything

Max is the almighty answer to the question of Life, the Universe, and Everything


No... that's forty two....
He's much more likely to be the question.

Max? 42.

You better keep your eyes open with all this occult stuff around. I know you probably don't expect the Spanish Inquisition....



Crazy guy in red robes: NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!!


Me: Ah shit...
I just had a crazy idea...
What is Jesussaves or Servus Dei or somebody popped up on this thread and starting hurling out accusations of being witches all around? That would be soooo funny.
:p

No... that's forty two....
He's much more likely to be the question.

Max? 42.
It rolls off the tongue well. I think it has marketing potential!

It rolls off the tongue well. I think it has marketing potential!


You can be my evil marketing person if you want. It's highly paid!* But yes. Sometimes my own genius astounds me.



*read: unpaid*

Some recommendations:
1)See a psychologist
2)Get out more
3)Increase your medication. If you don't have any get some
4)stop thinking so damn much
5)Have fun!

this is of course, a joke.

Some recommendations:
1)See a psychologist
Check, doing that tomorrow morning actually
2)Get out more
No check. The sun, it buuuurrrnsss! It burrrrnnnsss ussss!!!
3)Increase your medication.
That's what I'm doing tomorrow morning
4)stop thinking so damn much
Wait, you thought I actually think? I just hurl sponges at the keyboard and English comes out.
5)Have fun!
Oh damn, I don't know if I can do this one right.


:D

Check, doing that tomorrow morning actually

No check. The sun, it buuuurrrnsss! It burrrrnnnsss ussss!!!

That's what I'm doing tomorrow morning

Wait, you thought I actually think? I just hurl sponges at the keyboard and English comes out.

Oh damn, I don't know if I can do this one right.


:D
You have made my day so much better. Especially since I've gotta sleep in 10 minutes, or I'm never gonna get up at 5:30 tomorrow.

Meh, we're letting the sacred knowledge die. That's no fun.
:(

Haha, that is so cool :D

Haha, that is so cool :D
Isn't it, though?
*acts all puffed-up and egotistical*

Naah, egotistical doesn't suit me well.
:p

Well, Max has said the following:
<MaxBarry> Now I have a nation that I play, but it's secret :)
<Neutered_Sputniks> muwahahahahaha
<Menelmacar|Siri> Ever on the forums?
<MaxBarry> I post on the forums, yep
<Menelmacar|Siri> Sweet. \^_^/
<MaxBarry> It doesn't compete for Delegate or anything like that, but it gets involved in regional politics sometimes

So, who plays their main character as a pagan goddess?

So, who plays their main character as a pagan goddess?
Beats me.
But we must get to the bottom of this!

:D

There is a mysterious lack of covering-up going on here.
I would think that would mean I was on the wrong track, but I'm too devious to fall for that. That's what they want us to think!
It must really mean that I am on the right track, but they don't want to either acknoledge it or not so that we all give up!

It's only logical.
:D

Max is Lord of all he surveys.

That's it.
Oh, Brad! He's not Jesussaves, is he?

Bump for the late-night/early morning/afternoon/whatever time it is in your timezone right now crowd!

I must say, reading the original post almost cured my insomnia. But then things got really funny, though no more clear. Now my eyes are crossing. :rolleyes: No, I said crossing, not rolling. Damn uncooperative smiley.

I must say, reading the original post almost cured my insomnia.
:eek:
You mean you actually read the whole thing?

Isn't he that writer dude?

:eek:
You mean you actually read the whole thing?

Yes, silly me.

:eek:
You mean you actually read the whole thing?
hehe. Because you were just making it up as you went? :p

Isn't he that writer dude?
Yup. He is "that writer dude".

hehe. Because you were just making it up as you went? :p
I wasn't making it up as I went along. That's not to say I didn't butcher and bastardize two thousand years of Qabalistic tradition, but I did actually use Qabalistic resources here. The sephirothic charts which baffle me so that I had to go find something to explain what the Hell it was that I was even supposed to do with them, eventually I figured out that I still didn't know but it looks really pretty anyway...
The Tree of Life was easier to comprehend...

Not only is Max "that writer guy" for writing a book, he also set up this website and is writing a movie. Damn, I want that movie.

And who says butchering ancient religions isn't fun?

And who says butchering ancient religions isn't fun?
Definately not me!
:p

Is this the thread where Jesussaves is unmasked in the Scooby surprise of the century?

On second thought, no. I reckon Jesussaves is immune to Qabal hoodoo.

well, neo , congratulations .you have finally done what max, in all his one eyed glory, has been waiting for an NSer to do. there is some huge hidden joke in the whole NS thing, and he is gritting his teeth waiting for some poor soul to figure it out. so, with the help of some tarot cards, a magic eight ball, tinker toys, a gauzy head scarf ( because i know you just HAD to dress the gypsy part) too much free time, niice prescription meds, and a rubix cube, you have been enlightened with the Answer of all Answers. i am proud of you, neo. oh so very proud.

Holy shit! My thread's still alive! And Occidio is proud!
yay!

:D

Holy shit! My thread's still alive! And Occidio is proud!
yay!

:D
i , too,am surprised it is still alive :D . i answered it though, and i think thats what did it. and yes, i am proud of the fact you have nothing else to do but this.