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Should prostitution be legalized/decriminalized? Straight up question, but explain your answers please.
(I'll do so in a min., after the poll's been posted).

And then suddenly.... inspiration strikes

Awww sheeeeit. How do I post a poll after (drunkenly) hitting submit?

Yes. Why not? Really. It's sex for money. Legalise it, keep it safe, and admit that we're always going to have it.

Awww sheeeeit. How do I post a poll after (drunkenly) hitting submit?
There's a menu labelled "thread tools" up under the reply button somewhere.

Yes. Why not? Really. It's sex for money. Legalise it, keep it safe, and admit that we're always going to have it.

Unbelievably I agree, 100% with this. *collapses in shock*

Yes. Why not? Really. It's sex for money. Legalise it, keep it safe, and admit that we're always going to have it.
You posted my opinion for me. Thanks Sin.

Yes so long as it is a national initiative and not simply pocket areas, as we see in the UK with the introduction of an area in liverpool becoming "legal", only resulting in the east-european girls previously being illegally employed and exploited there to be moved to different areas..

And then suddenly.... inspiration strikes
Thanks for the idea. Busted! :p

Hell yes it should be legalized. It's only illegal because a bunch of bible-pushers were upset at the fact that people were enjoying themselves on a daily basis.

It's your body, do what you want with it.

Thanks for the idea. Busted! :p
That'll be $15 :p

Just wondering . . . is there a difference between legalizing or decriminalizing an activity?

There's a menu labelled "thread tools" up under the reply button somewhere.
Thanx sweetie. Where the hell is your modship? So not fair.

I say no. Most prostitutes are girls that don't know where else to turn. Criminalizing it may discourage girls from considering it and look towards better options.

You obviously haven't seen that HBO documentary.

You obviously haven't seen that HBO documentary.
Guess not..

Legalize! New tax base- that'd help the USA deficit, right?
:p

Yes, no harm is being done.

Legalize, so the women can actually get help if there's something awry without fear of being fined/imprisoned/deported if foreign.

Plus, because it's not anyone else's business.

I say no. Most prostitutes are girls that don't know where else to turn. Criminalizing it may discourage girls from considering it and look towards better options.

I think the benefits of legalization far outweigh the negatives you mention.

Consider first of all that any time something is criminalized, all that happens is it goes *underground*. Health precautions are limited, violence is not reported, and the threat of jail prevents these people from seeking help.

Legalize! New tax base- that'd help the USA deficit, right?
:p
All your [tax] base are belong to deficit!

Yes, prostitution should be decriminalized - I may not agree with it but I'm not one to prevent people from committing (what I think is, at least) an unwise activity

Yes, because I certainly need a lift today, and that would do it.

i say no for the most part but there are some legal brothels arent there?

I think the benefits of legalization far outweigh the negatives you mention.

Consider first of all that any time something is criminalized, all that happens is it goes *underground*. Health precautions are limited, violence is not reported, and the threat of jail prevents these people from seeking help.
I say No but I wouldn't put up a fight if it were legalized. I've been in the situation before and I made the decision to not go through with it and in the end it paid off. Sure, we can legalize it but legalization should also be used to help girls get out of the trade.

As long as they are consenting adults the government should not get involved.

Legalize? Damn hell you say! Of course legalize. Legalize it, license it and make it safer for all involved. You can take care of a lot of the crime involve in it to.

We also need Love Hotels in the US. One of the greatest Japanese inventions of all time. Just don't look in the little refrigerator they have next to the free snacks and tea. "Oh God, this isn't a fridge!!!!! What the hell is that!?"

All your [tax] base are belong to deficit!
You have no chance to survive bring your deficit into the black!

Move "Tax Collector" !!

I don't wanna know what's in the fridge.

I say No but I wouldn't put up a fight if it were legalized. I've been in the situation before and I made the decision to not go through with it and in the end it paid off. Sure, we can legalize it but legalization should also be used to help girls get out of the trade.
I agree. Legalization is the first step to reaching these prostitutes (many of them unwilling), and helping them get medical care and so on, and encouraging them to leave the business.

I disagree strongly with prostitution, as many others do, but people need to realize that criminalizing something is not always the best solution to a problem (just take a look at drug abuse, and the effects of the War on Drugs).

Why is it that you can't do it for money, but you can do it for free?

This is why I say, Legalize Prostitution.

I don't wanna know what's in the fridge.

It was. . .interesting. . .
They also theme the Love Hotels. I was driving with my wife down to Ise one day and saw a very disturbing Love Hotel of the highway. The sign showed two children reading big books and it was named "The Study Room" the qoute underneath was "Come on my house." I was both disturbed and highly amused.

The profession isn't going anywhere... it ain't the "world's oldest" for nothing. I say legalize it, it'll make it better for the hookers, johns, and government alike. The hookers get legal protection, finally, and don't need pimps when they can just call the police. The johns and the general public benefit from stricter health standards for licensing. The government, as mentioned above, will get the taxes. It's also worth noting that as legal restrictions are lifted, supply of prostitution will increase, lowering prices. It's a consumerist paradise! :D

If my new title is "Pimp" then I say we legalize prostitution, or else I'm in trouble!

And Eichen, LP says you're not paying....tsk tsk tsk.....

It was. . .interesting. . .
They also theme the Love Hotels. I was driving with my wife down to Ise one day and saw a very disturbing Love Hotel of the highway. The sign showed two children reading big books and it was named "The Study Room" the qoute underneath was "Come on my house." I was both disturbed and highly amused.


Engrish is both disturbing and funny. In this case it's an even mix.

I think you should legalize it.
But under strickt supervision (This is new :rolleyes: )
I have seen at least couple of interviews from 'prostitutes'. They say
it's a choice, being prostitute I mean. They don't do it 'cause lack of money or options.

I think you should legalize it.
But under strickt supervision (This is new :rolleyes: )
I have seen at least couple of interviews from 'prostitutes'. They say
it's a choice, being prostitute I mean. They don't do it 'cause lack of money or options.


That sounds a bit, erm, Fascist.

I think you should legalize it.
But under strickt supervision (This is new :rolleyes: )
I have seen at least couple of interviews from 'prostitutes'. They say
it's a choice, being prostitute I mean. They don't do it 'cause lack of money or options.
I have close friends that are prostitutes. They say they got into it mostly because of the options and money.

No, it should be illegal!
Whores, "pimps" and the SCUM that pays them for their "time" should be arrested and face HEAVY fines.
I have no respect for thees people.

So, you have no respect for opinions and civil rights?

I really like you.

So, you have no respect for opinions and civil rights?

I really like you.
You beat me to it.

I would agree for the most part on the legalization of prostitution, but only on the conditions that be strictly controlled.

That is to say that such a business would be highly organized and much like that of a massage parlor or hotel (Which some establishments tend to have as cover-ups anyway.) Of course, it would have its restrictions and tabs on customers, possibly so far as to demand that legally valid tests be presented in one's record for S.T.D.'s, criminal association, and the like before taking part in what such a place would have to offer.

On that same note, the employees would likely be in need of proper eligibility upon application into this sort of career, requiring up-front information of the same nature as the clients, though with the possible addition of marital status (Unless perhaps the spouse could give some sort of approved signature or something..)

With that, euphamistic means of advertising so as not to offend, and high-security within the, for lack of more diverse words, whorehouse, you would have a very practical industry (Assuming no religious intervention in government,) that would only strengthen the economy, and, heh, would certainly give rise to new and successful "small businesses.."

Seriously, what's so wrong about people satisfying a basic need?

And then, what's so wrong about getting money for it? It's not like anybody's harming any one (it does happen, but that can go with any profession).

It's criminal because the religious idiots have to much power. Any system that tries to regulate how you, erm, fuck, isn't a friend of mine.

Yes, it should be legalized. I don't know why it would be illegalized in the first place. The unemployment ration would definitely go down, if it were legal. Degrading yes, but if the person wants to, it shouldn't be a problem. It's only when people think that there's 'no way out' and don't have proper sexual knowledge, that things get hairy.

-Asylum Nova

If I may quote the Wiccan rede (As much as I wish not to incorporate religion in this topic, or so much as even come close, my apologies)

"If it harm none, do what you will."

Say it's legalized, Joints start popping up everywhere. Then they must compete with one another. So the charges drop. Guys are able to get laid for 10 bucks whenever they feel. What would they need with a girlfriend? Or it could make some men appreciate more of what a woman companion has to offer than just sex since they are able to get that anytime they feel anyway.

Say it's legalized, Joints start popping up everywhere. Then they must compete with one another. So the charges drop. Guys are able to get laid for 10 bucks whenever they feel. What would they need with a girlfriend? Or it could make some men appreciate more of what a woman companion has to offer than just sex since they are able to get that anytime they feel anyway.

(You make it seem like women would be the only prostitutes. Not an accurate thing to imply...)

I strongly doubt such a high-demand business as sex would lower their prices all that much. Like any other business, they will more likely throw in gimmicks or something of the like.

As for the emotional harm to culture, that is truely a topic of debate.. However, one can simply realize that such an experience is far more rewarding if both partners share a passionate love as reason for participating in this sort of act. Though it is difficult to determine, I doubt that truely emotional bondings will be made extinct to one of the oldest occupations of mankind.

Hell no they wouldn't. Rome had *very* open prostitution until the reign of Caesar Augustus, and it didn't harm anything or any one.

I say make it legal, put restrictions on it like any other profession. Regulate it so it stays safe and that all parties are willing.

While it is illigeal we can not make profesionals wear protectiong, get medical checks, have a legal and fair system for finding clients, or check for legal age. There would be no more pimps and underage children... well it wouldn't illimnate it all but it would be easier to catch.

(You make it seem like women would be the only prostitutes. Not an accurate thing to imply...)

I strongly doubt such a high-demand business as sex would lower their prices all that much. Like any other business, they will more likely throw in gimmicks or something of the like.

As for the emotional harm to culture, that is truely a topic of debate.. However, one can simply realize that such an experience is far more rewarding if both partners share a passionate love as reason for participating in this sort of act. Though it is difficult to determine, I doubt that truely emotional bondings will be made extinct to one of the oldest occupations of mankind.


Wasn't implying that, just brought up one scenerio. Ofcourse there would be male prostitutes.

That sounds a bit, erm, Fascist.


Maybe I am a fascist :cool:

Seriously it shouldn't have come out like that

Wasn't implying that, just brought up one scenerio. Ofcourse there would be male prostitutes.

(My apologies. I misinterpreted the statement. ^^; )

Ah, the old footprints from the library to the alleyway... way to reel in the scholars.. XD

But yes, by making it an acceptable aspect to society, it would probably be much like taking a link out of a chain regarding other vices that exist today..

I say no. Most prostitutes are girls that don't know where else to turn. Criminalizing it may discourage girls from considering it and look towards better options.

For young girls and boys it is often the last thing they want to do, they feel forced into it to survive or are forced into it by someone else. If you make it legal but regulated then those children will no longer be in the system and it would be volentree. Thing is we'd have to crack down on people that are legally autherized. The problem is that once you get into it you are in it and you often can't get out.

It's not like the kid wakes up and says hey I want a life where a pimp tells me how to live my life, beats me if he wishes, takes most of my money, and I have to have sex in a dirty alley with anyone that will pay a hefty price and not wear a condom because he wants it bareback.

It's not always a choice, it's a matter or survival.

Of course prostitution should be legalized.

Think of all those acne-afflicted nerds out there! :D and me! :D

If my new title is "Pimp" then I say we legalize prostitution, or else I'm in trouble!

And Eichen, LP says you're not paying....tsk tsk tsk.....
Mon patron, I'm holding out until he proves he's not a cop!

Okay, reality: I was depending on Lasciv's payment just to pay LP.
Wasn't happening becuase I put my best Trent forward.

Aside: There's a few liberal men here who I severely underestimated. Maybe homophobia isn't so apologetic and epidemic in the uber-left. At least, not as much as I thought.

I thought my party had the corner on the truley homofriendly market. ;)

Mon patron, I'm holding out until he proves he's not a cop!

Okay, reality: I was depending on Lasciv's payment just to pay LP.
Wasn't happening becuase I put my best Trent forward.

LP works for me, :) he's no cop!

And I guess for special customers like yourself I can give you a break.

PS- you have mail :eek:

I am strongly opposed to prostituion as it degrades and dehumanises women and encourages them to be viewed as sexual commodities by men. I believe an end to prostitution, pornography and anything else which encourages disrespect towards women is essential in order for there to be complete equality between both sexes which is fundamental to my communist beliefs. In regards to the legal status of prostitution I believe that women who sell their bodies are victims and should not be criminalised although I believe the men who are customers should be punished. I would advise anyone to read the speech: "Prostitution and Male Supremacy" by Andrea Dworkin at http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/MichLawJourI.html.

I am strongly opposed to prostituion as it degrades and dehumanises women and encourages them to be viewed as sexual commodities by men. I believe an end to prostitution, pornography and anything else which encourages disrespect towards women is essential in order for there to be complete equality between both sexes which is fundamental to my communist beliefs. In regards to the legal status of prostitution I believe that women who sell their bodies are victims and should not be criminalised although I believe the men who are customers should be punished. I would advise anyone to read the speech: "Prostitution and Male Supremacy" by Andrea Dworkin at http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/MichLawJourI.html


You know, Pornography places as much emphasis on Men as it does Women. Ever heard of Ron Jeremy?

Pornography, prostitution, and "all that other stuff" don't encourage disrespect toward any one.

Yes it should be legalized.

While we are at it we should bring back indentured servitude as well. After all my lawn needs cutting, and if it is between consenting adults why should the government get involved.

And OSHA, they can fuck off too. Who the hell are they to tell me what type of work is "safe" for my employees. If I am able to find an illegal mexican who is willing to remove asbestos for $20 a day then it is certainly not the business of the federal government.

Hmmm... that came out pretty left wing.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that while a good argument can be made for decriminilizing prostitution can be made in theory, I am also sure that the reality would be even more horrible than the industry is now. (Look at the porn industry, it's not all award shows at atlantic city you know.)

I agree that the current method of enforcement is assine - why punish the prostitutes as they are invariably the victims in this "victimless" crime - but that doesn't mean is should be made legal. Instead, we should look at more just sentencing schedules for the customers.

Why illegalize prostitution when girls are offering sex for free... legally?

Think about it.

I am strongly opposed to prostituion as it degrades and dehumanises women and encourages them to be viewed as sexual commodities by men. I believe an end to prostitution, pornography and anything else which encourages disrespect towards women is essential in order for there to be complete equality between both sexes which is fundamental to my communist beliefs. In regards to the legal status of prostitution I believe that women who sell their bodies are victims and should not be criminalised although I believe the men who are customers should be punished. I would advise anyone to read the speech: "Prostitution and Male Supremacy" by Andrea Dworkin at http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/MichLawJourI.html.
Sorry, but I have to call shitpie a crapcake.

Laws against prostitution, drugs, homosexuality, immigration, and technology need to be immediately repealed.

Your faux-liberal pseudofeminist guise doesn't impress me. And those same women would tell you to F.O.

Prostitution has no more to do with feminism than anti-drug laws have to do with addiction.

It's a heavy-handed attempt to push your moral agenda on a populace who doesn't desire your authority.
I see your agenda, and I'm onto you.

Sorry, but I have to call shitpie a crapcake.

Laws against prostitution, drugs, homosexuality, immigration, and technology need to be immediately repealed.

Your faux-liberal pseudofeminist guise doesn't impress me. And those same women would tell you to F.O.

Prostitution has no more to do with feminism than anti-drug laws have to do with addiction.

It's a heavy-handed attempt to push your moral agenda on a populace who doesn't desire your authority.
I see your agenda, and I'm onto you.


I see we agree on this matter! Maybe you'll be up for a Postie nomination. Ah, fuck the maybe, you *are* up for a Postie nomination!

Why illegalize prostitution when girls are offering sex for free... legally?

Think about it.

Because some people just can't get a date. ;)

I feel bad for the women that have to turn to prostitution because they have nowhere else to go. I think by legalizing it, it will take away opportunities for girls who would normally move towards a normal career, to take the easy way out. I think that if women are going to be prostitutes, let them keep their money. what the hell... it's their life. dont let tax take it away.. but on the flip side, it could do a lot for our huge deficit right now. i dont know...

I see we agree on this matter! Maybe you'll be up for a Postie nomination. Ah, fuck the maybe, you *are* up for a Postie nomination!
I don't participate in those thingies. But thanks! :)

I feel bad for the women that have to turn to prostitution because they have nowhere else to go. I think by legalizing it, it will take away opportunities for girls who would normally move towards a normal career, to take the easy way out. I think that if women are going to be prostitutes, let them keep their money. what the hell... it's their life. dont let tax take it away.. but on the flip side, it could do a lot for our huge deficit right now. i dont know...

Don't worry, we have an infinite supply of whores waiting in the wings.

Teenage girls!

The least you could do in return is to nominate me for Bronze Poster...!

Don't worry, we have an infinite supply of whores waiting in the wings.

Teenage girls!
That sounded so ignorant... oh, Christ, I'll just leave that alone.

Sorry, but I have to call shitpie a crapcake.

Laws against prostitution, drugs, homosexuality, immigration, and technology need to be immediately repealed.

Your faux-liberal pseudofeminist guise doesn't impress me. And those same women would tell you to F.O.

Prostitution has no more to do with feminism than anti-drug laws have to do with addiction.

It's a heavy-handed attempt to push your moral agenda on a populace who doesn't desire your authority.
I see your agenda, and I'm onto you.

I agree with you about laws being repealed on the other issues you mentioned but as a communist I cannot accept the legalisation of something that will harm equality among the human race and leads to the oppression of women. Prostitution is very much a feminist issue and the existence of the sexual exploitation of women is incompatible with the fight for women's rights. I have extremely liberal views on most issues and don't want to force any moral agenda on anyone but I believe it is necessary to take action against prostitution in order to ensure the protection of civil liberties. I however think the best way to end prostitution instead of tough laws against it would be for the government to provide extensive social welfare for prostitutes and help to find them alternative employment.

But, if they choose to do it, is it oppression?

That sounded so ignorant... oh, Christ, I'll just leave that alone.

You obviously don't live down here ;)

But, if they choose to do it, is it oppression?

Very few women would choose to become a prostitute since it is once of the degrading and exploitative jobs anyone can do and the majority of women feel forced into it through the poverty and discrimination which exists in any capitalist society. Any women who do apparently want to become involved in the sex industry have been completely brainwashed by this male dominated society and if there was complete equality between both sexes this would never take place.

No way prostitution is morally unacceptable and a disgrace to society. Plus STDs will spread like wildfire and we will be looked down upon as a nation.

Watch some HBO documentaries on the subject. Most of the prostitutes they interview *love* what they're doing.

They even had a report on the Channl 26 News (local Houston station) about the rapid increase in prostitution. All the prostitutes they interviewed really liked what they were doing.

The least you could do in return is to nominate me for Bronze Poster...!
I hate to participate, but I nominated you for best Bronze (not hgappenin', you're too new), and more appropriately, best newbie.

The latter is actually (considering the current crowd) much more admirable.

I look forward to hearing from you here on NS, bro.

Watch some HBO documentaries on the subject. Most of the prostitutes they interview *love* what they're doing.

They even had a report on the Channl 26 News (local Houston station) about the rapid increase in prostitution. All the prostitutes they interviewed really liked what they were doing.

Filthy whores.

Commando3']No way prostitution is morally unacceptable and a disgrace to society. Plus STDs will spread like wildfire and we will be looked down upon as a nation.
You can't tell me bagin' hoes ain't fun.
:o

Commando3']Filthy whores.
That's the greatest job ever. I'd love to get paid for sex.

Commando3']No way prostitution is morally unacceptable and a disgrace to society. Plus STDs will spread like wildfire and we will be looked down upon as a nation.


So, sex is unacceptable and a disgrace to society? Okay then, how about we just chop and seal everybody, and see just how long our species survives.

People with these "ideals" are the morally unacceptable ones, not the free-spirited, wonderful people who hold civil rights so dearly.

that shouldn't be legal, it is immoral and against nature. they should just remove marriage and it would help in that direction anyways.

EDIT: what i mean by that is for money it is immoral and against nature.

I think we should make sure those in sex industries are aware of their other options. But as far as it being demeaning work, I'm sure lots of people who scrub toilets for a living find it demeaning, but that's not illegal.

For some good info from people who work in the sex industry: http://www.walnet.org/csis/groups/coyote.html

So, sex is unacceptable and a disgrace to society? Okay then, how about we just chop and seal everybody, and see just how long our species survives.

People with these "ideals" are the morally unacceptable ones, not the free-spirited, wonderful people who hold civil rights so dearly.

Sex is for marriage and marriage only!

Commando3']Sex is for marriage and marriage only!
No, you've got it backwards. Marriage is for sex and sex only. But only marry if your girlfriend is one of those crazy "abstinence" people.

Commando3']No way prostitution is morally unacceptable (?) and a disgrace to society. Plus STDs will spread like wildfire and we will be looked down upon as a nation.
That's so stupid, it's negligable.

Than why do nations with decriminalized prostitution have almost nill STD's?
EDIT: Legless Pirates-- This is your area of expertise, yo Holland. ;)

Sounds like you've just took a dump on reason. :rolleyes:

Seriously, man; Get laid. I'll even pay for it... I promise.

In fact, if verifiable, you could probably get the best hook in town for all the money my site would bring in (once built).
Why don't you think about it while you're horny. I know I'm not the only one here who would offer to help.

I say no. Most prostitutes are girls that don't know where else to turn. Criminalizing it may discourage girls from considering it and look towards better options.
And you know this through personal research? I presume you have a statistically significant sample size.

I don't really agree with the concept itself but legalizing it could lead to a taxable income. Also, people tend to do illegal things 'for the thrill of it.' If legalized, some thrill-seekers would have to get their kicks elsewhere. Also, if legalized, its risk factor on a few levels would fall drastically- if it's not as closed a practice, police can still lend a hand and it could move to safer places. Yuck- which leads to the discussion that legalizing it would spread it... Darn. But still, along the lines of legalization, why NOT turn it into something society can tax upon? It's likely to stick around, just like some of the other darker aspects of society. Might as well let the economy reap some of the benefits. And if it itself were a safer practice, it would lead to... er... how to put? Other safer 'practices'... Meh. Even though I don't consent, I think it should be legalized.

It's pretty sad that it exists, but it should be legal. MY real concern is over whether the money a prostitute is paid should be considered income. Is the Moonlight Bunny Ranch a "business"?

.... I'm sure lots of people who scrub toilets for a loving find it demeaning,...



I had to add the bold to highlight what MUST be freudian...

Very few women would choose to become a prostitute since it is once of the degrading and exploitative jobs anyone can do and the majority of women feel forced into it through the poverty and discrimination which exists in any capitalist society. Any women who do apparently want to become involved in the sex industry have been completely brainwashed by this male dominated society and if there was complete equality between both sexes this would never take place.
They'd of course have other options. There's always other options. But if they felt that it was the manner in which they were most likely to succeed, I'm not going to deny it them.

I find no reason to restrict prostitution in the way we now restrict it in the US (for the most part.) Albeit, this is one of the industries I'd subject to serious government regulation, for safety's sake.

That's the greatest job ever. I'd love to get paid for sex.
We can dream, can't we? But most people who order "adult services" are probably 38-year-old computer programmers who never get laid. That wouldn't be so great.

But as far as it being demeaning work, I'm sure lots of people who scrub toilets for a loving find it demeaning, but that's not illegal.


Tell me... How exactly does that work?

...Not that I want to try it out.

We can dream, can't we? But most people who order "adult services" are probably 38-year-old computer programmers who never get laid. That wouldn't be so great.
That's my second goal in life. Computer Programmer. Really.

It's pretty sad that it exists, but it should be legal. MY real concern is over whether the money a prostitute is paid should be considered income. Is the Moonlight Bunny Ranch a "business"?
What else would it be, capital gains?

We can dream, can't we? But most people who order "adult services" are probably 38-year-old computer programmers who never get laid. That wouldn't be so great.
Not really. I am a 37 year old computer programmer. Hit me for a twenty?

(spoilers ahead)

Hi Kids! Welcome to the real world, meaning the one you'll spend more than 3/4 of your life in.

I'm a computer artist, and I can tell ya, guys with money don't need hookers, unless they view women as fast food.

Women, once you've hit 25, want to know what the hell you do for a living and will (usually obviously) be sizing up your net worth.
Movies have brainwashed you. The sweet, attractive loser doesn't get the girl.

The sweet, attractive (often, not), ambitious, wealthy guy does.
Fight it, but do it while you have youth, cuz it's been there, in front of our penises all through history.
Do your research.
Make fun of smart men now... Cuz they'll pwn your ass later.

I think regulated, legalized prostitution could be a good thing.

Hit me for a twenty?
No, he'll grow up to wish to legislate the hit-up, confiscation style instead. :p

I think regulated, legalized prostitution could be a good thing.
Agreed, minus the regulation. If there were verifying means available (like licensing), only the scuzziest, dirtiest Johns would choose to intermittently purchase anything but.

It's never a good thing, but if government is a necessary evil, than prostitution, drugs, undesired immigration, and the like are just facts of life.

Tell me... How exactly does that work?

...Not that I want to try it out.

Sounds kinda perverse, doesn't it?

I started to correct it earlier but my dad called long distance.

Perverse *and* disgusting.

Think of the diseases one might get!

Perverse *and* disgusting.

Think of the diseases one might get!

LOL-imagination working overtime?

(spoilers ahead)

Hi Kids! Welcome to the real world, meaning the one you'll spend more than 3/4 of your life in.

I'm a computer artist, and I can tell ya, guys with money don't need hookers, unless they view women as fast food.

Women, once you've hit 25, want to know what the hell you do for a living and will (usually obviously) be sizing up your net worth.
Movies have brainwashed you. The sweet, attractive loser doesn't get the girl.

The sweet, attractive (often, not), ambitious, wealthy guy does.
Fight it, but do it while you have youth, cuz it's been there, in front of our penises all through history.
Do your research.
Make fun of smart men now... Cuz they'll pwn your ass later.


99.99% of all men who want a woman get one.

from the handsome, buff, rich men to the ugly fat lazy poor ones.

sure donald trump has a wider choice of women but hes not GOOD at it so what difference does it make? better to be the poor guy who picks the nice-but-not-so-good-looking girl and stays happily married to her for 75 years.

in any case, prostitution is always going to be with us so why not protect the sex workers by legalizing it so they can have the full protection of the law?

99.99% of all men who want a woman get one.

from the handsome, buff, rich men to the ugly fat lazy poor ones.

sure donald trump has a wider choice of women but hes not GOOD at it so what difference does it make? better to be the poor guy who picks the nice-but-not-so-good-looking girl and stays happily married to her for 75 years.
Ma'am, I believe you've read my staement in a different light than intended.

I was refuting attempts made by pimplefaces to spread fictitious myths that certain professionals are undesirable.

Please read the whole threadline before posting a refutation.

in any case, prostitution is always going to be with us so why not protect the sex workers by legalizing it so they can have the full protection of the law?
I couldn't have said it better! :fluffle:

Yes. it already happens so you should make it legal.

Most prostitutes are girls that don't know where else to turn. Criminalizing it may discourage girls from considering it and look towards better options.

Prostitution can be a very lucrative enterprise and a woman should be able to choose that as her career just as easily (and without coppers breathing down her throat) as she is able to choose housekeeping as a career. It's about a woman’s right to choose here, and as long as there are regulations on the safety of the sex (for instance condoms must be used and prostitutes must get checked for sexually transmitted diseases on a regular basis and if they fail they lose their license to work).

I see no reason why prostitution is any worse a choice than deciding to be a housewife (some people have negative opinions of that in this day and age).

YEah, I think prostitution is always going to be around so it should be legalised in order to afford protection to the women (and men) in the industry.

But, like Bitchkitten said, people should be made aware of other options and in addition, society should be able to look after people better so that they aren't forced into work they feel demeaned by.

That sounds about how it should be.

I didnt know it was ileagle in the first place...

:headbang:

Well, then you should probably inform yourself.

And it depends where you live...

Yes. it already happens so you should make it legal.

Murder already happens, therefore murder should be legal?
Your logic is flawed.


Prostitution should be decriminalised or legalised, I don't care which, so that it can be regulated. Regulation will make the industry safer, in the sense that workers can feel able to contact the police and in the sense that it may take prostitution away from the streets and put it into brothels and other such places.

Prostitution was decriminalised in NZ back in 2003. The streets don't seem to be overflowing with prostitutes... Nor does it seem to have contributed to a moral decline. Unless ofcourse you think like Brian Tamaki.

Some places it's already legal

look... Prostitution should be legal.

1. The prostitutes often need protection from un-happy costomers
2. The prostitures are just trying to make a living, what if we illigalized taxi driving. How many more homeless people would there be? What would happen to all those costomers of theirs? What would happen to the airports?
3. How is it any of our business what some guy/girl does with his/her money. So what if they pay to get STDs and things. Its their life not ours.
4. It is a moral issue deeply engraned in religions. Why should the government have a say in religion?
5. if 'All is fair in love and war', and simulated war is legal (paintball and things of this nature) then why isnt simulated love?

See, people like me and Laviatha know what we're talking about.

"It's my body, not yours, so just back the fuck off."

That's what it's all about.

See, people like me and Laviatha know what we're talking about.

"It's my body, not yours, so just back the fuck off."

That's what it's all about.


Amen Brother.

look... Prostitution should be legal.

1. The prostitutes often need protection from un-happy costomers
2. The prostitures are just trying to make a living, what if we illigalized taxi driving. How many more homeless people would there be? What would happen to all those costomers of theirs? What would happen to the airports?
3. How is it any of our business what some guy/girl does with his/her money. So what if they pay to get STDs and things. Its their life not ours.
4. It is a moral issue deeply engraned in religions. Why should the government have a say in religion?
5. if 'All is fair in love and war', and simulated war is legal (paintball and things of this nature) then why isnt simulated love?

Point 4 is more like the other way around. Why should religious morality have an impact on laws in a secular state?

Church should have no say in politics, politics should have no say in the church, and neither should have influence on each other.

Yet they do. They have major influence, and that is total bullshit.

SECULAR governments and SACRED religions (by defintion) SHOULD NOT have ANYTHING to do with each other, and yet, on all US coins it says "In God we Trust", but we still claim to be tolerent of other religions. The truth is, the government is run by people. People are run by religions. Therefore, religions run the government. Now, this isnt right, but there really isnt anything we can do about it. It is in human nature to believe in a religion.

It is in human nature to believe in a religion.
:confused:
What about agnostics and atheists then?

It's not my nature, as I don't believe in any of them!

And it's true... Religion does control government. Swearing on a fucking BIBLE in court? Come-the-fuck-on!

And this bullshit with having to say "under god" during the pledge of allegiance is ridiculous.

:confused:
What about agnostics and atheists then?



The belief in nothing is still a belief is it not?

But it's not a religion.

It's not a belief, it's a common knowledge that there is no "God".

Believing in there being no "God" and believing in a religion are very different.

But it's not a religion.


Ok. You've got me there, but wouldnt the absence of religion have the same (similar rather) effect (similar TYPE of effect I guess) as would any religion?

It's not a belief, it's a common knowledge that there is no "God".

Believing in there being no "God" and believing in a religion are very different.Yeah, we don't worship "Nothing!" :D

And our ethics aren't based on the idea that there is no god, I know in my case they're based on an instinctive sense and an attempt to consider others and the consequences of my actions.

Yeah, we don't worship "Nothing!" :D

And our ethics aren't based on the idea that there is no god, I know in my case they're based on an instinctive sense and an attempt to consider others and the consequences of my actions.




Interesting. Your "Nothing" is the same as my God. My God is loosly that voice deep inside, deeper than that idiotic consience. If you listen to this voice, you WILL consider others and the consiquences of your actions. Acording to my personal religion, or part of it anyway.

Interesting. Your "Nothing" is the same as my God. My God is loosly that voice deep inside, deeper than that idiotic consience. If you listen to this voice, you WILL consider others and the consiquences of your actions. Acording to my personal religion, or part of it anyway.

Different sides of the same coin I guess. :p
I'd call what you have spirituality though, as religion implies something more organised and dogmatic, at least to me anyway.

Different sides of the same coin I guess. :p
I'd call what you have spirituality though, as religion implies something more organised and dogmatic, at least to me anyway.


I had never seen it that way. That is a good way to look at it. Haha, and yes, different sides of the same coin.

I say "fuck religion". Others can have it, but I'll have none of it, thank you very much!

It's brought too much suffering and death to the world to be of any use to me, other than the interest in its complete and total destruction.

I say "fuck religion". Others can have it, but I'll have none of it, thank you very much!

It's brought too much suffering and death to the world to be of any use to me, other than the interest in its complete and total destruction.


Hmm. The wonderful thing about "religious' freedom, you aren't REQUIRED to pick a side. And heck, what works for you works for you! There is (or should not be) no way for anyone to change that for you!

Exactly.

But that doesn't stop Mormon Bible-Pushers from trying to force their bullshit down my throat. Sometimes, they don't even allow me to shut the door.

And is there a perpous to all those thousands of Bibles in hotels?

Sure, I've read the majority of the Bible, but I prefer to think of myself as tollerent enough to not force it upon anyone.

Hah, I've got you beat --- I haven't read one word from the Bible!

I'm clean.

I agree with you about laws being repealed on the other issues you mentioned but as a communist I cannot accept the legalisation of something that will harm equality among the human race and leads to the oppression of women. Prostitution is very much a feminist issue and the existence of the sexual exploitation of women is incompatible with the fight for women's rights. I have extremely liberal views on most issues and don't want to force any moral agenda on anyone but I believe it is necessary to take action against prostitution in order to ensure the protection of civil liberties. I however think the best way to end prostitution instead of tough laws against it would be for the government to provide extensive social welfare for prostitutes and help to find them alternative employment.

While I agree wholeheartedly that every effort must be made to promote equality between men and women, I'm not sure I see the link you seem to be making. How exactly do pornography and prostitution prima facie constitute a threat to this equality? To be honest, looking at the historical record, I don't see much evidence that they do: the periods where porn and prostitutes were en vogue subject material are the very same eras where men and women were treated in more and more egalitarian fashion. By contrast, those periods where porn and prostitution were most repressed were also the ones where women were most restricted in their social roles. This isn't to suggest a one-for-one causation (Embrace Women's Rights: Buy Penthouse!) so much as it is to point out that the same people who don't like porn are also the one's who hate the idea of a working woman.

On the direct subject at hand, I'm in favor of decriminalization and regulation of prostitution. It would reduce disease and exploitation of women in that particular work force.

As for the subject of religion, I don't suppose any of you are aware that many religious thinkers were, if not in favor of prostitution, at least willing to allow it to exist? Thomas Aquinas of all people likened prostitution to the gutter: is it the most picturesque part of life and the city? No. Does it keep the crap out of the street? Yes.

Hey, what i said before. What works for you Works for you!

But, I can't help but wonder why you won't give it a chance. Haha, if anything, Revelations has some, dare i say, intence apocolypse stories. (though that is the only book worth reading.)

And is there a perpous to all those thousands of Bibles in hotels?

Sure, I've read the majority of the Bible, but I prefer to think of myself as tollerent enough to not force it upon anyone.
That'd be the "Gideons" doing their holy work or some shit...

That'd be the "Gideons" doing their holy work or some shit...


I wonder how much paper they waste on the manufacuting of those Bibles, which, very few, if any, people read.

Next time I stay at a Motel/Hotel, I'm taking all the Bibles from my room, and I'm gonna burn them (or do something equally freaky/cool). I might just put one in a toilet, leave the lid down, and wonder what somebody's gonna think when they open it.

Next time I stay at a Motel/Hotel, I'm taking all the Bibles from my room, and I'm gonna burn them (or do something equally freaky/cool). I might just put one in a toilet, leave the lid down, and wonder what somebody's gonna think when they open it.


Haha. That toilet thing, that would be PRICELESS. OO how i would love to see the look on the face of some, majorly dedicated Catholic when they opened the lid.

Let's admit everyone is having it...and at the same time add to the spread of sexual disease...AIDS is already a pandemic in Africa...let's add some other continents and all get on the disease train...CHOO-CHOO!!!

Haha. That toilet thing, that would be PRICELESS. OO how i would love to see the look on the face of some, majorly dedicated Catholic when they opened the lid.


I'm doing it. I'm fucking doing it!

That's gonna kick ass.

"Selling is legal. F*cking is legal. Why isn't selling f*cking legal?!" - Geroge Carlin

"Why is it illegal to pay someone to do something that is legal to do for free?" - Chris Rock

Seriously, out of all the things in the world to do to somebody, I hardly think giving them an orgasm is THAT bad. :rolleyes:

I say no. Most prostitutes are girls that don't know where else to turn. Criminalizing it may discourage girls from considering it and look towards better options.
Please back that up with some data.

Haha, if anything, Revelations has some, dare i say, intence apocolypse stories. (though that is the only book worth reading.)
Oh yeah.
There are also some other pretty good stories in terms of just being fun to read scattered about in the Bible somewhere, but I can't remember any of them right now.
:(

There may be, but I can't say, as I've not read even one word from it!

I. Am. The. Anti-Christ!

Seriously though, he really existed, but I don't believe any of the "miracle" bullshit. Especially his "resurrection". We all know how effective Zombie Jesus would be.

I say legalize it. The only hypothetical problem I see with this is teens with little financial aid will become obsessed with body image so that they can work to pay for college.

I say legalize it. The only hypothetical problem I see with this is teens with little financial aid will become obsessed with body image so that they can work to pay for college.
As if that doesn't happen now?

I say legalize it. The only hypothetical problem I see with this is teens with little financial aid will become obsessed with body image so that they can work to pay for college.

Then you probably wouldn't believe the number of college students I knew that worked their way through college as strippers.

I'd believe it!

As if that doesn't happen now?
I am aware that it exits now. But looks possibly determining whether or not you get educated will be additional pressure.

I am aware that it exits now. But looks possibly determining whether or not you get educated will be additional pressure.
Has your hypothesis supported by any evidence? Has this happened in any modern industrialized counrty that has legalized prostitution?

Not to the best of my recollection.

Then you probably wouldn't believe the number of college students I knew that worked their way through college as strippers.
I'm sure there are some strippers with issues with image. Some prostitutes would also have problems since the job also require a certain body.

Has your hypothesis supported by any evidence? Has this happened in any modern industrialized counrty that has legalized prostitution?
Just a guess I made based on the fact that prostitution is a job where looks are an issue.

We'll go back to the George Carlin arguement:

"Selling is legal, f*cking is legal, why isn't selling f*cking legal?"

I'm sure there are some strippers with issues with image. Some prostitutes would also have problems since the job also require a certain body.
That depends entirely on the clientel.

I'm not going to take the time to read the whole thread, so someone may have said this already.

Prostitution should not be leagal, IMFHO. Many prostitutes are brutaly exploited, mistreated, and controlled by their pimps. Did ya ever stop to think that maybe prostitution wasn't their choice. Many prostitutes just made a few bad mistakes and got themselves mxed up in a world of shit. Sorry, but as long as this goes on, you will never see me condone the legalization of prostitution.

I'm not going to take the time to read the whole thread, so someone may have said this already.

Prostitution should not be leagal, IMFHO. Many prostitutes are brutaly exploited, mistreated, and controlled by their pimps. Did ya ever stop to think that maybe prostitution wasn't their choice. Many prostitutes just made a few bad mistakes and got themselves mxed up in a world of shit. Sorry, but as long as this goes on, you will never see me condone the legalization of prostitution.


Methinks you should've read through the thread.

That depends entirely on the clientel.
Yes, and unless they have a fetish they'll want what society considers a ideal body.

Methinks you should've read through the thread.
Shit. *hangs self*

if being payed to have sex as a porn star is legal why isnt prostitution?

As long as HIV and AIDS still exists (along with the other STD's) prostitution should remain illegal. Once that stuff is cleared up however (if it ever is) there is nothing outside of morals keeping prostitution in the dark.

As long as HIV and AIDS still exists (along with the other STD's) prostitution should remain illegal. Once that stuff is cleared up however (if it ever is) there is nothing outside of morals keeping prostitution in the dark.
Wouldn't keeping it illegal make it harder to track STD's in the first place?

that is true

Wouldn't keeping it illegal make it harder to track STD's in the first place?


Yes, it would.

Yes, it would.
Kinda figured that...

Not to mention if both client and prostitute are required to have regular screenings it'll be safer then getting someone from a bar. Plus lower chance of rape.

I'm not going to take the time to read the whole thread, so someone may have said this already.

Prostitution should not be leagal, IMFHO. Many prostitutes are brutaly exploited, mistreated, and controlled by their pimps. Did ya ever stop to think that maybe prostitution wasn't their choice. Many prostitutes just made a few bad mistakes and got themselves mxed up in a world of shit. Sorry, but as long as this goes on, you will never see me condone the legalization of prostitution.
That happens in illegal prostitution, not legal prostition.

As long as HIV and AIDS still exists (along with the other STD's) prostitution should remain illegal. Once that stuff is cleared up however (if it ever is) there is nothing outside of morals keeping prostitution in the dark.
Why is that anyone's business but the client and server's? They both know the risks and make their decisions.

That happens in illegal prostitution, not legal prostition.

Exactly. Legal prostitution would be regulated and solve a lot of these problems. Virginia City, Nevada can do it so why can't the rest of the country.

Exactly. Legal prostitution would be regulated and solve a lot of these problems. Virginia City, Nevada can do it so why can't the rest of the country.
Religious reasons. That's why.

Yes. Why not? Really. It's sex for money. Legalise it, keep it safe, and admit that we're always going to have it.

Hmmm yes of course why not? *sarcasm*

yeah and then have girls get into it because it's the only thing they can do and then end up feeling worthless, getting pregnant or getting an STD...

Yeah great idea for the guys maybe but please think about the girls feelings too.

I also think it's morally wrong but i wouldn't say thats a reason for it being illegal as that's my opinion

Hmmm yes of course why not? *sarcasm*

yeah and then have girls get into it because it's the only thing they can do and then end up feeling worthless, getting pregnant orgetting an STD...

Yeah great idea for the guys maybe but please think about the girls feelings too.
If someone decides to get into prostitution, that is their decision in a legal system. In an illegal system, it is not always their decision.

No, it should not be legalized. If anything, the penalties for being a prostitute or soliciting a prostitute should be toughened.

Religious reasons. That's why.

Religion is a personal choice. If you think having sex for money is morally wrong then don't do it. The government should not be able to outlaw something because of religious beliefs. The only reason they should have their noises in the profession is because a) it would be a source of income and economy and b) health and safety issues which would include the welfare of the prostitute and the customers.

Why does everyone seem to assume that legalized prostitution would only result in female prostitutes? Can't guys be prostitutes too? I think a great deal of guys would enjoy the idea of commitmentless sex and getting paid for it. :D

Prostitutes for everyone! That's equality!

No, it should not be legalized. If anything, the penalties for being a prostitute or soliciting a prostitute should be toughened.
Why should it not be legalized? Why should penalties be toughened?

Should prostitution be legalized/decriminalized? Straight up question, but explain your answers please.
(I'll do so in a min., after the poll's been posted).
of course it should. each individual is sole owner of their own body, and as owner of that body they have the right to sell or rent it to whomever they choose.

I think criminalizing consensual "crimes" is stupid anyway. If both parties are willing to take the risks, let them. If the government is so worried about the risks, minimize them. Criminalizing them won't do it.

I think criminalizing consensual "crimes" is stupid anyway. If both parties are willing to take the risks, let them. If the government is so worried about the risks, minimize them. Criminalizing them won't do it.

I agree. Paternalism sucks.

So many poepe said yes, god damnet i hope you one day are forced into prostitution becouse you are poor..

Or a large part of people on this Forum are freaks who could not get a girl if they didnt pay her, fucking freaks you make me sick,,

People who voted yes :confused: :confused: :confused: :sniper: -someone cool

Other. It is already legal or decriminalized (de jure or de facto) in many jurisdictions.

So many poepe said yes, god damnet i hope you one day are forced into prostitution becouse you are poor..

Or a large part of people on this Forum are freaks who could not get a girl if they didnt pay her, fucking freaks you make me sick,,

People who voted yes :confused: :confused: :confused: :sniper: -someone cool

Not all people on the forum are males and not all prostitutes are female. I'm married and I still think we should have it legal and regulated, if regulated you create safety standards and guidelines for making sure people are going in wanting this.

Legal prostitution would weed out children under 18, addicts, and people forced into prostitution. These things would be forbidden by law but they would also weed out because no one is going to go to an illegal prostitute when they can go to a legal one where they will not get in trouble.

Check out Virginia City or the Netherlands see how they're doing. Bringing it out into the light of day makes it easier to stop things like this from happening and it turns it into a act between consenting adults, but since it is a profession we can demanded things like condoms be used for protection of both worker and clinet and have screenings for VD every 3 to 6 months to insure the condom didn't fail and if they did they'd have to stop as a Heatlh issue. They'd be able to refuse clients if they didn't feel safe because their wouldn't be a pimp waiting back at her apartment ready to beat her for turning down work. There are a lot of benifits to the prostitute if it because a legidimate profession rather then a petty crime.

Not all people on the forum are males and not all prostitutes are female. I'm married and I still think we should have it legal and regulated, if regulated you create safety standards and guidelines for making sure people are going in wanting this.

Legal prostitution would weed out children under 18, addicts, and people forced into prostitution. These things would be forbidden by law but they would also weed out because no one is going to go to an illegal prostitute when they can go to a legal one where they will not get in trouble.

Check out Virginia City or the Netherlands see how they're doing. Bringing it out into the light of day makes it easier to stop things like this from happening and it turns it into a act between consenting adults, but since it is a profession we can demanded things like condoms be used for protection of both worker and clinet and have screenings for VD every 3 to 6 months to insure the condom didn't fail and if they did they'd have to stop as a Heatlh issue. They'd be able to refuse clients if they didn't feel safe because their wouldn't be a pimp waiting back at her apartment ready to beat her for turning down work. There are a lot of benifits to the prostitute if it because a legidimate profession rather then a petty crime.
well said. i like comparing your polite, calm, rational post to the gun-emoting rant that you were responding to...it's a fun contrast :).

Not all people on the forum are males and not all prostitutes are female. I'm married and I still think we should have it legal and regulated, if regulated you create safety standards and guidelines for making sure people are going in wanting this.

Legal prostitution would weed out children under 18, addicts, and people forced into prostitution. These things would be forbidden by law but they would also weed out because no one is going to go to an illegal prostitute when they can go to a legal one where they will not get in trouble.

Check out Virginia City or the Netherlands see how they're doing. Bringing it out into the light of day makes it easier to stop things like this from happening and it turns it into a act between consenting adults, but since it is a profession we can demanded things like condoms be used for protection of both worker and clinet and have screenings for VD every 3 to 6 months to insure the condom didn't fail and if they did they'd have to stop as a Heatlh issue. They'd be able to refuse clients if they didn't feel safe because their wouldn't be a pimp waiting back at her apartment ready to beat her for turning down work. There are a lot of benifits to the prostitute if it because a legidimate profession rather then a petty crime.

NO ONE is goeing to be a prostite legal or not of their own free will, people will do it to found drugs, or people who are poor due to bad luck..
People like you make me sick, and if there is a god i hope the cinds of you burn in the fires of hell

NO ONE is goeing to be a prostite legal or not of their own free will,

i am personally friends with somebody who worked in the Red Light district in Amsterdam for several years. she choose to work there, and has no regrets. she left "the business" because she moved to America, where prostitutes suffer horrible conditions and disgusting stigmas because of people just like you.

isn't it fun how i only have to cite ONE person to prove you totally wrong? :)

people will do it to found drugs, or people who are poor due to bad luck..

people already do it for those reasons. obviously making it illegal hasn't stopped that, so why not legalize and regulate the industry to provide better working conditions, safer health policies, and legal recourse to those in the sex industry? by keeping it illegal, you simply ensure that women and men who are driven to prostitution will have little means of leaving or seeking help for maltreatment.


People like you make me sick, and if there is a god i hope the cinds of you burn in the fires of hell
people like you make me laugh, and if there is a God i am sure he is having a good chuckle at your ignorant and misplaced rage.

If they ever legalize it, I know I'll be making a career switch! I'd make a good Pimpess.

"ok fellows.....how much did you bring in tonight?" ;)

i am personally friends with somebody who worked in the Red Light district in Amsterdam for several years. she choose to work there, and has no regrets. she left "the business" because she moved to America, where prostitutes suffer horrible conditions and disgusting stigmas because of people just like you.

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isn't it fun how i only have to cite ONE person to prove you totally wrong? :)
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guess so and i cite you

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people already do it for those reasons. obviously making it illegal hasn't stopped that, so why not legalize and regulate the industry to provide better working conditions, safer health policies, and legal recourse to those in the sex industry? by keeping it illegal, you simply ensure that women and men who are driven to prostitution will have little means of leaving or seeking help for maltreatment. [/QUOTE]

Why not insted of making it better bordels we make a better socaiety, and no one will have to sell their body

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people like you make me laugh, and if there is a God i am sure he is having a good chuckle at your ignorant and misplaced rage.[/QUOTE]

My rage is here only placed in words, I will place it against the PIMPs and people who bye sex when i have the chenvhe to day is womens day,
and some one has the nerve to defend legalizing prostistution..

If there is a god he has messed up, but if we are judget after death, those who have made this the sins of all sinds[not the hores but those who bought them and forced them to do it] will have their souls burn till the end of times

If they ever legalize it, I know I'll be making a career switch! I'd make a good Pimpess.

"ok fellows.....how much did you bring in tonight?" ;)
Prostitution legal =\= Pimping legal

Prostitution legal =\= Pimping legal


bah..youre no fun.

I agree with Bottles reasons. Making it legal would enable it to be regulated, safe sex practices and safety in general. No more PIMPS beating up the girls.

guess so and i cite you

huh?

Why not insted of making it better bordels we make a better socaiety, and no one will have to sell their body
why should choosing to have sex for money be looked on as any different than choosing to make waffles for money? some people would rather take their clothes off for a living than have to make sneakers in a factory, so why not let them make that choice? why assume they "have to" sell their body, any more than we "have to" sell our bodies to work at any other job?


My rage is here only placed in words, I will place it against the PIMPs and people who bye sex when i have the chenvhe to day is womens day,
and some one has the nerve to defend legalizing prostistution..

women and men should both have the absolute right to choose what to do with their own body, assuming that whoever they do it with is consenting. if an adult female wishes to exchange sexual favors for money then that should be nobody's business but hers and her customers. to claim that you, or anybody else, has the right to tell a woman what she may do with her body is in direct conflict with the idea of women's rights.


If there is a god he has messed up, but if we are judget after death, those who have made this the sins of all sinds[not the hores but those who bought them and forced them to do it] will have their souls burn till the end of times
ahh, so you have been dead, then? you seem to konw exactly what is going to happen after death, so clearly you must have died, visited all the alternative afterlives, and returned to enlighten us?

tell me, where did Ben Franklin end up?

Eeeeelpee. You don't have to put on the red light

Prostitution legal =\= Pimping legal
indeed...i believe that each INDIVIDUAL should have the right to sell their body (if they wish), but no person should ever have the right to sell somebody else's body.

Because chicks gotta eat too. :headbang:

My rage is here only placed in words, I will place it against the PIMPs and people who bye sex when i have the chenvhe to day is womens day,
and some one has the nerve to defend legalizing prostistution..

Yay! Let's celebrate Women's Day by not letting them choose what they want! :rolleyes:

I think that who ever is selling needs to be physcolgically tested to minimise potential problems. But if they just want to, then WTF legalise.

I think that it is all of the men in nationstates that are voting yes! :fluffle:

Yay! Let's celebrate Women's Day by not letting them choose what they want! :rolleyes:
if history has taught us anything, it is that women are best served by being granted as few rights as possible and by having their bodies controlled by male-controlled government.

I think that it is all of the men in nationstates that are voting yes! :fluffle:
last i checked, i did not have any man-parts :P.

there are two kinds of prostitution:
a) those people who are in the streets , many times in desperates situations. I repeal this kind of prostitution because on 99% of the times these persons belong to a exploitation net. We must strike on this mafia.

b) those people who choose prostitution as a way of living. In this case we must respect and give this persons the oportunity to work with conditions.

I'm against it. I don't want to see a situation like in Germany where unemployed women are effectively blackmailed to take a job in prostitution, through threat of their benefits being stopped. Plus decriminalising it would no doubt lead to lots more desperate women choosing the route of selling their bodies, it's a profession which generally degrades society.

Should prostitution be legalized/decriminalized? Straight up question, but explain your answers please.
(I'll do so in a min., after the poll's been posted).
No, no, a thousand times no! Prostitution is NOT a "victimless crime." Legalizing it would simply make it an acceptable "career" for young women ( or, for that matter, men ) who have, shall we say, less than adequate intellect. I definitely do NOT want any of my grandchildren to ever even consider such a thing, even as a passing thought! :headbang:

last i checked, i did not have any man-parts :P.


me either.....although I do keep this jar on my desk of ex.........

oh nevermind.

No, no, a thousand times no! Prostitution is NOT a "victimless crime." Legalizing it would simply make it an acceptable "career" for young women ( or, for that matter, men ) who have, shall we say, less than adequate intellect. I definitely do NOT want any of my grandchildren to ever even consider such a thing, even as a passing thought! :headbang:


Poppy :fluffle:

I promise I wont go into that line of work. I cant walk in Stilettos anyway.

me either.....although I do keep this jar on my desk of ex.........

oh nevermind.
*slowly backs away protecting his tools*

Poppy :fluffle:

I promise I wont go into that line of work. I cant walk in Stilettos anyway.
LOL! GOOD FOR YOU, HON! :D

*slowly backs away protecting his tools*


I'd never do that to YOU.....youre already legless for god's sake. Your tools are safe. ;)

*slowly backs away protecting his tools*

Steel codpieces, get your steel codpieces here :D

I'd never do that to YOU.....youre already legless for god's sake. Your tools are safe. ;)
Phew. Otherwise I would have to make a career change

Do you think that if we keep prstitution illegal we can finish it. No way! It will always have someone who pays and someone that wants to receive it. It's a question of health and to give saffer conditions to this men and women.

Steel codpieces, get your steel codpieces here :D


LOL Jimmy...

Steel codpieces, get your steel codpieces here :D
Sorry bought one from someone else right after I met peachy :p (sorry peachy :fluffle: you)

Sorry bought one from someone else right after I met peachy :p (sorry peachy :fluffle: you)
I bought one from the LG mechandise stand :fluffle:

Other

Requirements:

a)Would-be prostitutes must have a license to practice prostitution, and the license must be renewed yearly (with health checks).

b)Only attractive females may be granted a license. (yours truly would be the judge, maybe with hugh heffner as special counsel; I'd be the new Prostitution Czar)

I bought one from the LG mechandise stand :fluffle:
Me too ... no wonder it had a squirting flower on the front ;)

What the hell are steal codpieces and why would I want to buy one? :confused:

I bought one from the LG mechandise stand :fluffle:

Maybe I could interest you in a sausage inna bun.

Now, if your gonna act properly on this you've first gotta understand this:

What is prostitution. Some (fools) may say its the selling of sex. Well imagine this. You buy your girlfriend a necklace or lend her a tenner for example. Then you go out for a meal and its all nice and all, then, you go home and 'have coffee'. Now cant the police just bust you for that as they dont know whether the necklage and money you gave her was for sex or not. Now, what should be made illegal are things accosiated with prostitution, such as advertising it (eg cards in phone boxes and dirty massage things). One major association with prostitutes is the slang phrase "curb crawling". This is when a fat smelly lonely american bum drives his fat car destroying the ozone layer and knocking out the granny with the fumes from the exhast whos in the car behind, drives along and honks like a dirty sleez bag at all the prostitutes, then they get in his car and he recieves an act of oral pleasure at his flat or whatever.

Summarising, prostitution doesnt exist so it cannot be banned, only things feared to lead to the alleged selling of sex can be banned or discouraged in hopes that prositution itself cannot opperate.

I'm not sure if that's an innuendo or an actual sausage in a bun. Either way I'll have to pass.

lol @ LP and UT....

I promise I will keep my circle saw away from said area.

No, no, a thousand times no! Prostitution is NOT a "victimless crime." Legalizing it would simply make it an acceptable "career" for young women ( or, for that matter, men ) who have, shall we say, less than adequate intellect. I definitely do NOT want any of my grandchildren to ever even consider such a thing, even as a passing thought! :headbang:

The only way to avoid this is to educate your children with good sence, respect and teach them that the easy way it's not allways the best way.

lol @ LP and UT....

I promise I will keep my circle saw away from said area.
I was more woried about the sawsall :p

Do you think that if we keep prstitution illegal we can finish it. No way! It will always have someone who pays and someone that wants to receive it. It's a question of health and to give saffer conditions to this men and women.
Two wrongs don't make a right.

I was more woried about the sawsall :p


lol...I was gonna say that but I didnt think anyone would know what I was talking about.



Eichen: sorry sweetie, no more spamming up your thread. :fluffle:

Legal here in Queensland Australia so thats went 4 other on the poll.
Anyways howwhy should the govt care how you have sex with (except obviously minors) I go to a club find some chick end up paying for her drinks or whatnot take her home or her home or someone convinent ...... go at it. Haven't I just paid 4 it by buyin her drinks or whatnot.

*snip*

ROFL.

Very true.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
However, two lefties might make a neocon.

Nahhh. It would prolly take about ten! :D

No, no, a thousand times no! Prostitution is NOT a "victimless crime." Legalizing it would simply make it an acceptable "career" for young women ( or, for that matter, men ) who have, shall we say, less than adequate intellect.

why should it be unacceptable, if the individual in question wishes to choose that path? there are plenty of more physically harmful "career paths" currently being chosen by individuals of limited capacity, so why should prostitution be especially hated?


I definitely do NOT want any of my grandchildren to ever even consider such a thing, even as a passing thought! :headbang:
really? if i were ever to have grandchildren, i hope they would consider all possible options for themselves, not just the options i happen to agree with, and that they would choose their path in life as thinking individuals. if being a prostitute would make them feel happy and fulfilled then that's what i would want them to do, provided they choose to follow that path in a country where prostitutes aren't needlessly endangered by out-dated and repressive sexual politics (like they are in the US).

I'm against it. I don't want to see a situation like in Germany where unemployed women are effectively blackmailed to take a job in prostitution, through threat of their benefits being stopped.
How about you dont mindlessly repeat bullshit you read somewhere? (http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp)

No, no, a thousand times no! Prostitution is NOT a "victimless crime."
And who exactly is the victim?

And who exactly is the victim?

Um, the woman who has caught an untreatable and terminal sexually transmitted infection and unknowingly passed it on to hundreds of 'clients'?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

So, what we can do to stop prostitution. Don't tell me that you don't have any ideas, or is it only a personal dream?

Um, the woman who has caught an untreatable and terminal sexually transmitted infection and unknowingly passed it on to hundreds of 'clients'?
Which the chances of such would be reduced if they were more able to seek regular checkups (not to mention their safety if they are allowed to call the cops without fear)

Um, the woman who has caught an untreatable and terminal sexually transmitted infection and unknowingly passed it on to hundreds of 'clients'?
Unknowingly infecting people makes for victims, but its no crime. You are missing out on the second part of victimless crime.
Besides, thats what mandatory health checks, basic hygiene and condoms are for.

Unknowingly infecting people makes for victims, but its no crime. You are missing out on the second part of victimless crime.
Besides, thats what mandatory health checks, basic hygiene and condoms are for.

Condoms are certainly not magic. They can rip, tear, or just not be up to standard. And how exactly are you going to force prostitutes to use them if their clients will pay more if they don't? Or for that matter, force them to go to health check ups?

So, what we can do to stop prostitution. Don't tell me that you don't have any ideas, or is it only a personal dream?
Stopping prostitution is like stopping drugs. Neither can be totally "stopped," but that still doesn't mean they should be legalized.

Condoms are certainly not magic. They can rip, tear, or just not be up to standard. And how exactly are you going to force prostitutes to use them if their clients will pay more if they don't? Or for that matter, force them to go to health check ups?
Like you do with any business that has to be licensed, control them. If they have no health check, they lose their license. But this is irrelevant, since i wanted to have another question answered.

Like you do with any business that has to be licensed, control them. If they have no health check, they lose their license

They tried licences, along with health checks in Germany. It didn't work.

As for your other question... well if prostitution is illegal where you live (assuming you can somehow define it), then there's your crime.

They tried licences, along with health checks in Germany. It didn't work.

As for your other question... well if prostitution is illegal where you live (assuming you can somehow define it), then there's your crime.
Have any evidence to back that up? or do you just think it did not work?

#1 Reason prostitution will never become legal all over the US: Vegas loves being the monopoly.

Beyond that, I wonder: What would you all say should be the legal age? Especially considering how many vastly underage prostitutes there are.

I say yes, but the government would have to create an office to regulate things like mandatory health precautions, business incorporation, accounting procedures, etc. It could make the government a mint in taxes and it could free resources used to prosecute criminalised prostitution to be used for more urgent measures, such as combating terrorism.

NO ONE is goeing to be a prostite legal or not of their own free will, people will do it to found drugs, or people who are poor due to bad luck..
People like you make me sick, and if there is a god i hope the cinds of you burn in the fires of hell

Wow. You totally missed everything that I put up there.

There ARE people that are prostitutes that do it of their own free will and *gasp* they're even here in the good old US of A. If you actually read my post you'll see what I am saying.

Cinds? As for hell I do not beleive in it but if you want to picture me there go for it because you're missing over all the points that are being made by various people and just repeating your partyline.

Have any evidence to back that up? or do you just think it did not work?

Erm, the fact that approximately half prostitutes are believes to be unlicenced or that they dropped the mandatory health checks as unworkable?

Stopping prostitution is like stopping drugs. Neither can be totally "stopped," but that still doesn't mean they should be legalized.

Well, it's a simple way of see such a complex problem.
You prefer to smash things instead of look at them and try to correct them. Protitution is a problem that we can correct by educating people. On the other hand it can be a way of life (for those who want that).
What all governments must do is to support those who are in this kind of life forced by others. In this situations we must act with kindness and love and not with repression and anger

Erm, the fact that approximately half prostitutes are believes to be unlicenced or that they dropped the mandatory health checks as unworkable?
Again proof ... I am not saying I do not believe you but you make a claim for a part of the arguement with no supporting facts

(you make an appeal to statistics without giving them)

I'm all for legalizing if for no other reason than it's the least-worst option. Criminalizing prostitutes ensures that an act that's going to happen anyways gets pushed away from where it can be controlled and into the dark, where the prostitutes and their clients can be abused. But other people have said this already.

The case with marijuana in Canada now provides an idea of what the difference between "legalizing" and "decriminalizing" is.

Canada is NOT legalizing marijuana, Canada is decriminalizing it, which means if you're caught in possession of up to 15 grams you get a fine - not arrested. Should marijuana be legalized, then you wouldn't get a fine, since it would be legal.

Applied to prostitution, decriminalizing it would not make it legal but wouldn't mean that prostitutes go to jail. Though I can't see how this is much better than outright outlawing prostitution - if the goal is to make it safer, the only way to help these people (the prostitutes) is to accept them, remove them from the pimp and the unsavoury clientele, and give them the ability and incentive to get check-ups and STD tests. That's not likely to happen if, after leaving the hospital, the prostitute gets slapped with a ticket by a police officer.

Erm, the fact that approximately half prostitutes are believes to be unlicenced or that they dropped the mandatory health checks as unworkable?

1) How long has this program been going on? Do you expect things to change overnight?

2) But how does it work for the LEGAL prostitutes?

3) Dropping health checks means that half the equation was dropped. That's like saying "Bullets don't work." because somebody removed the guns.