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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4323979.stm

What is this shit? What is this Commission for Racial Equality? Is it sponsored by the government?
What do you think about it? Is there a black culture?

I thought the Commission for Racial Equality was a department of the government. I could be wrong. I'm pretty there's such a thing as "black culture" tho. In fact, yes i'm certain there's black culture. Why wouldn't there be?

Although i disagree with the idea of seperating black from white in school classes.

I thought the Commission for Racial Equality was a department of the government. I could be wrong. I'm pretty there's such a thing as "black culture" tho. In fact, yes i'm certain there's black culture. Why wouldn't there be?

Although i disagree with the idea of seperating black from white in school classes.
And what is this black culture?
Is this black culture the same all over the world (in the UK, in Africa, in China...)?
Are black people a community?

And what is this black culture?
Is this black culture the same all over the world (in the UK, in Africa, in China...)?
Are black people a community?
Oh, i think i see. You're not attacking the idea of black people having a culture, you're questioning the generalization of the term "black" when applied in the article.

Or am i way off still?

The Commission for Racial Equality is a publicly funded, non-governmental body set up under the Race Relations Act 1976 to tackle racial discrimination and promote racial equality.

Their website is here (http://www.cre.gov.uk/index.html)

Black culture, yes, it exists...

I've read a bit about his statements, but I want to see the programme before commenting more. He has a habit of saying quite controversial things, quite often because attention needs to be drawn to a subject, rather than letting a community keep burying their heads in the sand and ignoring it.

Oh, i think i see. You're not attacking the idea of black people having a culture, you're questioning the generalization of the term "black" when applied in the article.

Or am i way off still?
Sort of. Actually I'm a foreigner (relatively to the UK) non-native english speacker and I have a hard time understanding how this all works.
In my countries communities are supposed not to exist and the government has been stomping on them for decades. Whenever anything looks like a community, everybody run around crying like hysterics pointing their finger at it.
I've understood in the UK communities are cool. I've read this article and I'm just trying to understand because I was shocked. I didn't know the black people were considered to be a community.

Oh, i think i see. You're not attacking the idea of black people having a culture, you're questioning the generalization of the term "black" when applied in the article.

Or am i way off still?

I think defining a culture by the colour of someone's skin is teetering dangerously towards racial discrimination. Being black (or any other socially defined race) shouldn't automatically /make/ you part of a culture.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying people should be denied a right to their own culture, but race should not define culture, the individual should.

How can the "lack of self-esteem" be improved if what they are basically telling these people is "Your too stupid to be in class with white students"? The whole thing sounds like thinly veiled racism. The best way to teach black students is the same as whites-hold everyone to the same standards. Otherwise you will have special schools with lowered standards producing a population doomed to poverty or at least lower earning capacity. Perhaps what they need is tutors and special classes set up within the school with a lower pupil to teacher ratio for all students (regardless of race) who struggle academically. That way these students can catch up academically with the other students and return to regular classes and perhaps college.