NationStates Jolt Archive

Well I’ve only been around a bit but while I’ve been here I’ve seen about 50 odd why the U.s is X and so is bad, start normally by left wing Europeans and of course the Why the U.s is Y and so is Good, normally by right Wing Americans.
Simply repeat this for, why Christianity is x and so is bad by left wing y, why Christianity/abortion/homosexuality is yadayada yada. And youd have about 95% of the posts here.

Not that I’m trying to say all Europeans and socialist or all Americans and right wing inquisitors, personal experience forbids me for doing so, but it appears there are some serious trends

So being a man of inquisitive nature I thought it be interesting to try and get people to categorise them selves.

Here ill start with a little template I thought up
Occupation: Student
Live: Britain
Age: 17
Stance: Left Wing : Socalist/Troskysist
Religion: None (was catholic)
Class: Middle

Come on chaps and chapettes of course you don’t have to follow my template but if I get enough repose i guess i could produce some sort of fancy graphical table or some such.

NS player profiles is adequate for this, but what the hell....

Occupation: Student (studying Politics at Cardiff Uni; plan to specialise in Political Thought/Philosophy)
Live: Britain
Age: 19
Stance: Left Wing : Liberal/Socalist & libertarian idealist (i have some pretty far out ideas); a different set of political ideals for the short term
Religion: Agnostic


edit (again):

Class: middle i suppose

Occupation: Student in high school
Live: Washington state, USA
Age: 16
Stance: Right wing I believe the current president is too liberal
Religion: Conservitive Baptist

Occupation: Sperm Donor Lab Technician (Cup Holder)
Live: I'm undead actually!
Age: 742
Stance: Left-wing liberal whenever possible, Right-wing conservative whenever necessary
Religion: actually I'd quite like people to worship me!!!

sorry dude, a good and commendable idea but its been done on the basis of political compass scores by Swimmingpool. his threads possibly still alive somewhere if you can be arsed to look for it :)

Swimmingpool’s was by name and political compass score. This one could, in theory, be by location, age, occupation, self-proclaimed ideology and religion.

Occupation: College Student, Real Estate Agent
Live: California
Age: 18
Stance: Right Wing: Libertarian
Religion: Lutheran
Class: Middle

Occupation: Crab
Live: US
Age: 23
Stance: The ones with the silliest sounding names
Religion: The holy order of the Almighty Crab

Occupation: Student in high school
Live: Washington state, USA
Age: 16
Stance: Right wing I believe the current president is too liberal
Religion: Conservitive Baptist
Careful, dude. I might hunt you down.

Occupation: Student in high school
Live: Washington State
Age: 15
Stance: Liberal (and hate the hell out of conservatives)
Religion: atheist

Edit:
Class: Middle

Swimmingpool’s was by name and political compass score. This one could, in theory, be by location, age, occupation, self-proclaimed ideology and religion.
bah

*mumbles to self*

Occupation: Sperm Donor Lab Technician (Cup Holder)
[...]
Age: 742


Extended gap year?

Yeah i know of the political compass, the purpose of this was to try and find trends in location occupation age relgion and so on, some are appearing allready.

Note actually i ve just thought of this could you also include your 'class' if you will a bit touchy but where are you roughly on the rich poor devide

For example im
Class: Middle

could you go back and edit yours if you havent got this, it might give a few important trends.

Yeah i know of the political compass, the purpose of this was to try and find trends in location occupation age relgion and so on, some are appearing allready.

Note actually i ve just thought of this could you also include your 'class' if you will a bit touchy but where are you roughly on the rich poor devide

For example im
Class: Middle

could you go back and edit yours if you havent got this, it might give a few important trends.

I did a basic thread about class a few weeks ago. Essentialy people always end up saying they are middle class or upper middle class. No one is ever "upper class." :shrug:

Occupation: Student
Live: US
Age: 16
Stance: Left-Libertarian
Religion: none I'm an atheist
Class: Middle

I did a basic thread about class a few weeks ago. Essentialy people always end up saying they are middle class or upper middle class. No one is ever "upper class." :shrug:

Bah try and be objective people this is in the name of politcal science, honeslty with maybe a set of 50 results i could try and make some intresting conculsions.

Occupation: High School Student
Location: Houston, Texas
Age: 16 (17 March 14th)
Political Stance: Extremely Far-Left (-9.81 on the Political Compass for Social Issues)
Religion: None (Atheist)
Class: Lower-Middle, almost Working-Class

Occupation: Unemployed
Location: Vermont, USA
Age: 19
Stance: Very far left, very libertarian. Anarcho-communist I guess. But I vote Libertarian.
Religion: Agnostic
Class: Low

Occupation: Prostitute
Live: In a box on the street
Age: |16
Stance: RED
Religion: little christan little moslim, but they both suck i hate religion
Class: Box class

Well I’ve only been around a bit but while I’ve been here I’ve seen about 50 odd why the U.s is X and so is bad, start normally by left wing Europeans and of course the Why the U.s is Y and so is Good, normally by right Wing Americans.
Simply repeat this for, why Christianity is x and so is bad by left wing y, why Christianity/abortion/homosexuality is yadayada yada. And youd have about 95% of the posts here.

Not that I’m trying to say all Europeans and socialist or all Americans and right wing inquisitors, personal experience forbids me for doing so, but it appears there are some serious trends

So being a man of inquisitive nature I thought it be interesting to try and get people to categorise them selves.

Here ill start with a little template I thought up
Occupation: Student
Live: Britain
Age: 17
Stance: Left Wing : Socalist/Troskysist
Religion: None (was catholic)
Class: Middle

Come on chaps and chapettes of course you don’t have to follow my template but if I get enough repose i guess i could produce some sort of fancy graphical table or some such.

Just make it a poll.

I am so surprised nobody has yet said "Class: Sorceror" or "Class: Paladin".
:p

Just make it a poll.
That won't work, since s/he is trying to compare all of the thing against each other.

Occupation: College Student
Live: Ireland
Age: 18
Stance: Libertarian Capitalist
Religion: None (was Church of Ireland protestant)
Class: Middle

Age: 20
Location: Ohio, USA
Occupation: Physics Student
Religion: Lutheran
Stance: Libertarian
Class: Lower Middle

That won't work, since s/he is trying to compare all of the thing against each other.

HE! is trying to get a list of diffrent varible and then produce several graphs and see if there are any corelations, not all at once that probally wont work your right but things such as location class and occupation against political belife might produce some intresing things. or relgion class and political belifes.

Please try and keep it serious, no jedi relgions or insane age reponces

HE! is trying to get a list of diffrent varible and then produce several graphs and see if there are any corelations, not all at once that probally wont work your right but things such as location class and occupation against political belife might produce some intresing things. or relgion class and political belifes.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, that a poll wouldn't work since you want to compare them in that way.

Note actually i ve just thought of this could you also include your 'class' if you will a bit touchy but where are you roughly on the rich poor devide

For example im
Class: Middle

could you go back and edit yours if you havent got this, it might give a few important trends.
Broadly speaking, working-class people are socialist and richer people are capitalist.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, that a poll wouldn't work since you want to compare them in that way.

Then you sir have my apolgies, i was a bit quick off the bat there

Broadly speaking, working-class people are socialist and richer people are capitalist.

I have to dissagree, but this is not the place to disscuss it start another thread and id be happy to however.

the Battleground of Left vs Right
I hate 'left vs right' - it leaves no room for libertarians like me

Occupation: Student / Student Newspaper Reporter
Live: USA
Age: 16
Stance: Libertarian
Religion: Agnostic
Class: Middle/Upper Middle

Occupation: Student (unemployed)
Location: Northern Ireland, UK
Age: 19
Stance: Socially Libertarian, Unionist
Religion: Atheist
Class: Middle

I hate 'left vs right' - it leaves no room for libertarians like me

libertarians are left (apart from lassie fair capatlistsit) all gose back to the left and right sayings origins in pre revolution france, another dissusion id be happy to have but id like to keep this thread clean for the data.

libertarians are left (apart from lassie fair capatlistsit) all gose back to the left and right sayings origins in pre revolution france, another dissusion id be happy to have but id like to keep this thread clean for the data.
No, libertariannism is an entire other axis of the political spectrum. There are leftist libertarians like me, and right-wing libertarians like, umm, I'm not sure who, and centrist libertarians like Swimmingpool. An example of non-leftist libertarianism is the Libertarian party in the US, which is right-wing and libertarian.

EDIT:
Whoops, I just realized you said not to have this discussion, so I'll shut up now.

No, libertariannism is an entire other axis of the political spectrum. There are leftist libertarians like me, and right-wing libertarians like, umm, I'm not sure who, and centrist libertarians like Swimmingpool. An example of non-leftist libertarianism is the Libertarian party in the US, which is right-wing and libertarian.

EDIT:
Whoops, I just realized you said not to have this discussion, so I'll shut up now.

hahah prehaps your right maybe that warrants another
Authoritrian or libertrian collumb, prehaps if this experiment is a success ill make a better template next time.

Occupation: Student
Live: Britain
Age: 15
Stance: Left-liberal
Religion: Raised catholic, ran away from that towards atheism
Class: middle classed I guess?

Occupation: Student (but only 2 months any more)
Location: Finland (Nobody needs to know my home town)
Age: 19
Stance: 'cause I don't really know what all these english words mean
I'll just go for socialist. Pretty far on the left anyway?
religion: Hate all of them (So no)
Class: I have to say middle (I just have to say)

No, libertariannism is an entire other axis of the political spectrum. There are leftist libertarians like me, and right-wing libertarians like, umm, I'm not sure who, and centrist libertarians like Swimmingpool. An example of non-leftist libertarianism is the Libertarian party in the US, which is right-wing and libertarian.


He is speaking from a British perspective remember.

Occupation: Student (History & Politics BA at Liverpool) [Occasionally do temoing work.]
Location: Liverpool, UK
Age: 20
Stance: Left Libertarian.
Religion: Agnostic (Ex-Catholic)
Class: Featherweight

Post cup of tea makery, ive realised this form of data and so the experiment is fudlementally flawed, ive allowed people too much interpritation over what should be discreet data namely your politcal stance, all this socalist libertarian right wing libertarian stuff has thrown it off and im not really going to be able to put it in any numeric sense on any graphs and with all the interpretation making a conclusion is going to be a nightmare, im too tired tommorw but this has been a good test run ill make a better system tomorrow by forcing people to choose which of a pre set ideologies they best conform to, that way ill be able to tabulate it and put it in a graph.

Occupation: Data Entry (legal)
Live: US
Age: 24
Stance: Guess you can say I am right wing. I am pretty conservative.
Religion: Christian (I don't claim a denomination because my view is there is too much argument between them on what is not important and not enough focus on what is)
Class: somewhere between middle and upper middle


Even though I fall in the Right Wing category, it is my feeling that those that truly hate a person based solely on their political stance, religous stance, or class in society are truly shallow people. There is something to learn from people that are different than you. Just wanted to vent a bit. It is too often that I see people in forums being hateful towards someone because of this. :(

Occupation: Student
Live: Britain
Age: 16
Stance: anarcho communist/ democratic socialist (havent decided yet)
Religion: Non-denominational Christianity
Class: Upper-Middle (Champagne socialism for life)

Occupation: High School Student
Live: New Jersey, United States
Age: 16
Stance: Left (Scandanavian Mixed Marketist...or something like that)
Religion: Christian (Congregationalist)
Class: Middle Class

Even though I fall in the Right Wing category, it is my feeling that those that truly hate a person based solely on their political stance, religous stance, or class in society are truly shallow people. There is something to learn from people that are different than you. Just wanted to vent a bit. It is too often that I see people in forums being hateful towards someone because of this. :(

Did you mean that 'even though', or can I please start quoting this as an example that right wingers confess they are often the sort of people who do hate people for their ploitical stance/religion/class?