NationStates Jolt Archive


Learn what you're arguing about!!!

Neo-Anarchists
05-03-2005, 23:02
Argh. Have you every tried to argue for euthanasia with anybody? This is one of the things where it is most epidemic that people are full of shit. Everyone arguing against me was convinced that euthanasia was when a doctor thought your life wasn't worth living, and killed you.

:headbang:

I don't think anybody is pushing to legalize that. Last time I checked, we wanted the patient to be able to choose a quicker and more painless death than a few weeks of painful succumbing to cancer or whatever.

Can't people at least learn what they're arguing about before jumping in and shooting their mouths off?

This pointless rant brought to you by Neo-Anarchists.
Alenaland
05-03-2005, 23:05
Well, I see the purpose of some of these discussions to try and educate people. I know I have learned a lot from reading what others have to say, particularly, when they can quote sources, or provide links.

But then again, I know some people's minds are locked tight and you can't teach them anything. So then you have to ask yourself, is it worth the effort to try, just in case you do get through to some?
Der Lieben
05-03-2005, 23:05
Neo, 45.11848973937298393784937493749478*pi/e % of the world are idiots. I'm afraid you'll have to get used to that sort of crap. As for euthanasia, I dunno. A lot of times people aren't coherent in these situations, as they are being pumped full of drugs.
Gnostikos
05-03-2005, 23:05
Can't people at least learn what they're arguing about before jumping in and shotting their mouths off?
No. No, they can't.
Bodies Without Organs
05-03-2005, 23:08
This is one of the things where it is most epidemic that people are full of shit.

Or possibly you mean 'endemic'?

Can't people at least learn what they're arguing about before jumping in and shotting their mouths off?

Indeed.
Gnostikos
05-03-2005, 23:10
Or possibly you mean 'endemic'?
No, I believe she's referring to it having epidemic properties.
Salutus
05-03-2005, 23:10
No. No, they can't.
:p
Neo-Anarchists
05-03-2005, 23:10
Or possibly you mean 'endemic'?
I have no idea. Possibly.

Wow, I looked back through that rant and my spelling and word choice was pretty atrocious. Time to edit!
Manawskistan
05-03-2005, 23:11
Can't people at least learn what they're arguing about before jumping in and shotting their mouths off?

This pointless rant brought to you by Neo-Anarchists.

Well perhaps if they start shooting their mouths off, they'd be Pro-euthanasia then, wouldn't they?

(Please someone catch that joke)
Der Lieben
05-03-2005, 23:11
You never replied to me on the eyeball-lick thing. I'll ask again, do you have time for an appointment?
Neo-Anarchists
05-03-2005, 23:12
(Please someone catch that joke)
I tried, but it's running too quickly. Perhaps someone could flank it?
Neo-Anarchists
05-03-2005, 23:17
You never replied to me on the eyeball-lick thing. I'll ask again, do you have time for an appointment?
Most likely.
Deetag
05-03-2005, 23:20
Can't people at least learn what they're arguing about before jumping in and shooting their mouths off?




Nope, its the nature of the beast.
Never listen, never think, just yap.

:rolleyes:
Deetag
05-03-2005, 23:21
:p :p Well perhaps if they start shooting their mouths off, they'd be Pro-euthanasia then, wouldn't they?

(Please someone catch that joke)



Caught it
The Alma Mater
05-03-2005, 23:24
Can't people at least learn what they're arguing about before jumping in and shooting their mouths off?

"but if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? OMG- evolution is wrong !"

I feel your pain.
Arribastan
05-03-2005, 23:29
Well perhaps if they start shooting their mouths off, they'd be Pro-euthanasia then, wouldn't they?

(Please someone catch that joke)
I tried, but he's a slippery little bastard. I need a net...
Silver-Wings
05-03-2005, 23:46
To be honest I'm pro-ethuanasia.

If a person really wants to end their own life because they feel they are dying an undignifide death or that the pain is just toomuch for them, then I'd say that they have the right to end their suffering and allow them to die in a way they choose.

Now you can argue about "This is playing God" - it's a fair argument, but we've made a lot of decisions that defied God, but you kno what, we'red oing ok.

As for abortion...only if it's for a damn good reason.

Enjoy the debating everyone, oh and yes - it's a pain when people just shoot their mouths off.

Anyway, have fun!
Ashmoria
06-03-2005, 00:27
thats why, in the US, we usually call it physicians assisted suicide.

euthanasia CAN mean killing someone "for their own good" when their life is judged to be not worth living. its not all that rare for a doctor to mercifully end the life of a newborn baby who is going to die in a few days anyway.

if the spouse of a patient with alzheimers ends up killing him/her, its a form of euthanasia. its also a bit of a crime. same with nurses who end up killing terminal patients. when those are found out, they usually get prosecuted and sent to prison.

most people are only in favor of the kind that involves the patient being terminally ill within a few months of certain death, choosing freely to end it early with the help of a medical professional.
Preebles
06-03-2005, 02:03
Argh. Have you every tried to argue for euthanasia with anybody? This is one of the things where it is most epidemic that people are full of shit. Everyone arguing against me was convinced that euthanasia was when a doctor thought your life wasn't worth living, and killed you.



I don't think anybody is pushing to legalize that. Last time I checked, we wanted the patient to be able to choose a quicker and more painless death than a few weeks of painful succumbing to cancer or whatever.

Can't people at least learn what they're arguing about before jumping in and shooting their mouths off?

I feel your pain. :(
They really don't understand the basic ethical constraints behind things like abortion and euthanasia... Everyone take an ethics course! You will learn about "harm" and "informed consent" and "living wills" and all sorts of interesting things.

Of course they'l probably just block their ears and go "lalalalalalala." :p