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How many Christians are there out there with the belief that the Earth is only 4000 years old or so? Just a question, poll coming up.

The earth is billions of years old due to God and possibly the big bang or any other plausible scientific theory. THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. RELIGION IS NOT AN EXCLUSIVE-OR GATE, PEOPLE! :gundge: :gundge:

Your point was?

Hey, Lieben, you got your Other option already. Quit whining.

Incidentally, I vote Big Bang. But why isn't there an option for a Big Bang 4000 years ago? :D

My girlfriend does. She used to be a JW (no longer), but she still believes in things like Adam & Eve, Noah & the ark and the earth being only thousands of years old.

Trick questions. Everyone knows the world doesn't really exist. It's just a figment of your imagination.

the eath s obviously billiions of years old, te evidence christians have give me about wrongfully carbon dated rocks (you can only C14 date living things) is b/s.

(pls donnt flame about spelling or anything, ive been drinkin)

Earth is 4.6 billion years old, plus/minus 100 million years. That is, we don't know for certain: The oldest material we know are meteorites, which have that age. The basalts from Mare Imbrium on the moon are date to circa 4.3 billion years, and the oldest known minerals on Earth (zircon crystals) are dated to 4.2 billion years. The oldest known sediments are circa 4.0 to 3.9 billion years in age. So that gives us a good hint at how things happened. :)

(i can post more here for more details, if you desire :D )

Trick questions. Everyone knows the world doesn't really exist. It's just a figment of your imagination.

Well, yes. But in this pseudo-reality what do you think it is?

Uh, actually, the Bible puts the world at c. 12000 years old, not 4000. So I can't vote in your poll as all the options are WRONG

Earth is 4.6 billion years old, plus/minus 100 million years. That is, we don't know for certain: The oldest material we know are meteorites, which have that age. The basalts from Mare Imbrium on the moon are date to circa 4.3 billion years, and the oldest known minerals on Earth (zircon crystals) are dated to 4.2 billion years. The oldest known sediments are circa 4.0 to 3.9 billion years in age. So that gives us a good hint at how things happened. :)

(i can post more here for more details, if you desire :D )

Go nuts!

Uh, actually, the Bible puts the world at c. 12000 years old, not 4000. So I can't vote in your poll as all the options are WRONG

Then vote in other. I'm pretty sure it was about 4000, but anyway... I'm not infallible

Go nuts!

Could you please specify what you mean? I'm confused now. :rolleyes:

Uh, actually, the Bible puts the world at c. 12000 years old, not 4000. So I can't vote in your poll as all the options are WRONG

Yes*, but Bishoip Usher of Armagh came up with a creation date of 4004BC by examination of the lineages described in the Bible, and that may be what the original poster was thinking of (obviously it gives an Earth slightly over 6,000 years old, but the 4000 year figure is a pretty good hint that he was thinking of this calculation).


* When I say 'yes' here, I actually mean 'where does the Bible state 12,000 years?'

Could you please specify what you mean? I'm confused now. :rolleyes:

Spew out as much info as possible, if you feel up to it.

Then vote in other. I'm pretty sure it was about 4000, but anyway... I'm not infallible

Let me help out: James Usher (which is often quoted by Creationists) said it was October 23, 4004 BC. There you have your 4000 years. Note that this was 17th century, though. Not that up to date anymore ;)

Then vote in other. I'm pretty sure it was about 4000, but anyway... I'm not infallible

Is this what you were thinking of?

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/ussher.htm

Let me help out: James Usher (which is often quoted by Creationists) said it was October 23, 4004 BC. There you have your 4000 years. Note that this was 17th century, though. Not that up to date anymore ;)

All right then, when I said 4000, I really meant 8000 approximately. That's what I meant... Put down that sledgehammer...

Go nuts!

That's my job. :p

I am not convinced that anything actually exists. I have yet to see irrefutable evidence. In fact, I have seen quite convincing evidence to the contrary.

However, assuming that things actually exist, and those objects include the Earth and us, I would guess that Earth is about 4.6 billion years old or so. More than 4 billion, less than 5 billion. It aso seems likely that the vast majority(if not all) of the matter in the universe came from the same place; namely a superdense particle of matter that exploded with enough force to send it all hurtling in every conceivable direction at the velocity of light or so.

THough, chances are, that superdense particle of matter probably came from eBay. :)

All right then, when I said 4000, I really meant 8000 approximately. That's what I meant... Put down that sledgehammer...

4004 + 2005 = 6009

Where does 8,000 come into it?

4004 + 2005 = 6009

Where does 8,000 come into it?

..... I'm not doing very well tonight, am I?

..... I'm not doing very well tonight, am I?

Nor am I, I kept wanting to subtract 1 from that figure because there was no year 0... I don't need to do that though, do I?

The bible is an allegory dudes!

Nor am I, I kept wanting to subtract 1 from that figure because there was no year 0... I don't need to do that though, do I?

Would someone with an astute mind (who hasn't been listening to Cigaro by System Of A Down over and over again) please tell us the answer?

Nothing existed before me, does that answer your question?

Short answer, no. No it doesn't

Would someone with an astute mind (who hasn't been listening to Cigaro by System Of A Down over and over again) please tell us the answer?

I think I do want to subtract one actually.

If we look at 10BC to 10AD:

10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1*1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10

We get 19 asterisks which show that only 19 years have actually elapsed between the two... so make the world 6008 years old come October, ok?


Here we also have a proof that listening to Rory Gallagher while trying to do this calculation is better than listening to SOAD, but then I thought that was a self-evident truth...

Oh, and one more question:

WHen you hear 'Big Bang', do you momentarily think of a porno?

I think I do want to subtract one actually.

If we look at 10BC to 10AD:

10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1*1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10

We get 19 asterisks which show that only 19 years have actually elapsed between the two... so make the world 6008 years old come October, ok?


Here we also have a proof that listening to Rory Gallagher while trying to do this calculation is better than listening to SOAD, but then I thought that was a self-evident truth...

Well, self evident for Cigaro anyway. It's hard to keep concentration when you've got "MY SHIT STINKS MUCH BETTER THAN YOURS" blasting in your headphones. Thanks btw

I like voting in poll :p