NationStates Jolt Archive


Internet Explorer, Firefox, of Opera

Cole Square
05-03-2005, 09:35
whats better in your opinion Internet explorer, Fire Fox, or Opera or differant alternative I have yet to hear of yet
Preebles
05-03-2005, 09:36
Firefox baby!
No spyware for me and tabbed browsing is the shit.

You should probably list Netscape for all the Maccers out there.
Places to Be
05-03-2005, 09:37
Firefox, by far. Tabbed browsing, popup blocker, all those rad extensions, and no Buy Opera Now!!! ads.

If you use IE, I'm sorry.
New Sancrosanctia
05-03-2005, 09:38
firefox, what what!
i ahven't had a virus since i started using it, and my only popups come from AIM.
Super Locria
05-03-2005, 09:45
I use Safari and Firefox. Actually, I use Firefox 80% of the time, and Safari 19% of the time. I use IE 1%, and only when I'm coding something just to make sure it doesn't totally look like ass in IE. God I hate IE.
Adrian Barbeau-Bot
05-03-2005, 09:47
firefox, easily. only problem is that soon it will be the top thing, and everyone and their mothers will use it, then it will have tons of pop-ups and exploits. that would suck.
Cole Square
05-03-2005, 10:10
Whats safari I have never heard of that one
Affenfelsen
05-03-2005, 10:19
I use firefox and love it, I only have one problem with it

when one tab/site freezes up, all others do so too!

while in IE, I can still surf in the other pages :(


Anyone know how to fix that :) ?
Phyritia
05-03-2005, 10:21
i don't have a preferance because i don't use my own computer. instead i use the public ones on campus at the school i go to and the defalt isp is explorer. i do have a friend that some of you may know who swears by firefox now.
New Sancrosanctia
05-03-2005, 10:23
I use firefox and love it, I only have one problem with it

when one tab/site freezes up, all others do so too!

while in IE, I can still surf in the other pages :(


Anyone know how to fix that :) ?
wierd, that doesn't happen to me. although, when something fucks up and i must close one window, every firefox window and tab open closes.
Phyritia
05-03-2005, 10:27
I use firefox and love it, I only have one problem with it

when one tab/site freezes up, all others do so too!

while in IE, I can still surf in the other pages :(


Anyone know how to fix that :) ?
from what it sound like firefow is still full of bugs
Patra Caesar
05-03-2005, 10:30
Netscape, anyone?
Who really cares where
05-03-2005, 10:30
Safari is Apple's web browser, as such it only works on OSX, but it is very nice (I'm using it right now).
Places to Be
05-03-2005, 10:33
I use firefox and love it, I only have one problem with it

when one tab/site freezes up, all others do so too!

while in IE, I can still surf in the other pages :(


Anyone know how to fix that :) ?

Prolly won't help, but have you upgraded to 1.0.1? And yeah, it probably has a few bugs, but only because they just came out with a new version, and DEFINITELY not as bad as the security concerns of IE. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#Security)
Phyritia
05-03-2005, 10:35
Prolly won't help, but have you upgraded to 1.0.1? And yeah, it probably has a few bugs, but only because they just came out with a new version, and DEFINITELY not as bad as the security concerns of IE. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#Security)
true but i emphisize that i am using SCHOOL computers and they get cleaned out every week or so
Places to Be
05-03-2005, 10:38
Cleaned out? Do they hose them down? I'm curious as to what exactly that means.

(And, by the way, I'm sure that any bureaucracy-loving public school system wouldn't switch internet browsers unless they went through miles of paperwork. I'm not dissing your school for IE, just stating the general... suckiness... of it.)
Branin
05-03-2005, 10:56
Firefox is teh b0mb
Dragon Cows
05-03-2005, 10:57
gotta go with firefox on PC and Safari on Mac. Internet explorer deserves lttle more than to be buried in a pile of rotten dog s**t
Preebles
05-03-2005, 10:59
3 people voted for IE? Sick fucks. :p
Dragon Cows
05-03-2005, 11:00
3 people voted for IE? Sick fucks. :p
that is rather sad...
Aeruillin
05-03-2005, 11:02
I use all three, partly for formatting issues and partly for testing. For example, some special characters won't show correctly in my version of Firefox, so I use Opera for that.

I hugely prefer Firefox over IE. I like my browser to be a program that doesn't make me a slave for the webdesigner of any page I go to. No rightclick madness, pop-up windows, self-installing software or changing mouse cursors for me, no sir. :D

Opera is underrated though. I used it for at least the past five years before switching to Firefox, and its tabbed browsing is still a little better in my opinion.
Snetchistan
05-03-2005, 11:16
I've been having reliability issues with firefox. I love the tabbed browsing and all that but frequently when playing videos and such it freezes completely whereas I don't get this problem with IE. Also frequently it tells me that it needs to install plugins to play something and yet when I try to it iturns out the plugins aren't available. No problem with IE. Finally I recently installed a patch for it and it gave up the ghost completely and now I'm going to have to reinstall. It could be due to the extensions I'm running but if there was a real google toolbar for firefox I wouldn't have to bother downloading an unofficial one thatr still isn't as good as the real thing.
Dragon Cows
05-03-2005, 11:20
hmmm.... i've had trouble with installing plugins as well, but it hasn't really become a major issue for me.

As for the google bar, there is one built in to firefox that'll run a whole bunch of different search engines (including google) (if you're not seeing it, you may have to change your view options)
Places to Be
05-03-2005, 11:21
if there was a real google toolbar for firefox I wouldn't have to bother downloading an unofficial one thatr still isn't as good as the real thing.

Google Search is built right into the toolbar.

Have you got 1.0.1 (as asked earlier)? A lot of problems are fixed if you go to the site and download the latest stuff.
Iozy
05-03-2005, 11:27
I use Maxthon (http://www.maxthon.com). It's tabbed like firefox, has a search bar, and advanced popup/ad filtering. It's cool because it still supports ActiveX. Only issue I have with it is that it's built off the IE framework, thus having limited PNG support. Don't get me wrong, Maxthon blocks pretty much all of the adware and spyware that IE alone is prone to.
Swimmingpool
05-03-2005, 11:51
I use Opera! It's way better than IE and I even prefer it to Firefox, I think.

I think the alternatives are better than IE because Microsoft are so smug in their monopoly that they don't even make an effort to be that good.
Tearion
05-03-2005, 11:58
Right Now I am using NCSA Mosaic, its what Internet Explorer is based on, but im just messing about with it, usually I use Firefox.
Saxnot
05-03-2005, 12:24
I use all three, partly for formatting issues and partly for testing. For example, some special characters won't show correctly in my version of Firefox, so I use Opera for that.

I hugely prefer Firefox over IE...Opera is underrated though... its tabbed browsing is still a little better in my opinion.
That's pretty much what I do. Opera's ultimate my first love though.
Saxnot
05-03-2005, 12:25
Have you got 1.0.1 (as asked earlier)? A lot of problems are fixed if you go to the site and download the latest stuff.
you can just type "g -whatever you want to search for-" into the address bar.
The Hole In The Wall
05-03-2005, 12:28
I'm torn between Firefox and Opera. On the one hand, Opera is outstanding at controlling tabs etc. Nice interface, fully customisable control bars...but then there's Firefox with it's uber extensions etc.

I think, however, that if I were to chose one of t'other I would go for Opera. Mainly because it integrates IRC, Email, Newsgroups, tabbed-browsing ( + much more ) into one. I know, I know, Firefox can do this too, but you have to find the extensions for some of those features which can sometimes be a hassle :-(
The Plutonian Empire
05-03-2005, 12:36
Is opera free?
The Hole In The Wall
05-03-2005, 12:38
Yes it is. http://www.opera.com/
Myrth
05-03-2005, 12:44
The ad-supported version is free. You have to pay if you want to get rid of the adverts.
I use FireFox and have never had any problems with it besides the odd shitty webdesigner who wouldn't know W3C compliancy if it smaked them in the face. Going back to IE from FireFox is like cutting off a limb.
West - Europa
05-03-2005, 15:24
Firefox.

I followed up on Mozilla since 1.2 or so. Now I changed to FF.

I like it so much that I want tabbed browsing in Windows Explorer. NOW!:
Azzameans
05-03-2005, 15:27
Clearly, Firefox is the best browser. Ever.
IronCurtain
05-03-2005, 15:30
I use mozilla
Jeruselem
05-03-2005, 15:36
I use firefox and love it, I only have one problem with it

when one tab/site freezes up, all others do so too!

while in IE, I can still surf in the other pages :(


Anyone know how to fix that :) ?

Bizarre, but it looks like the FireFox programmers didn't "multi-thread" the individual sessions/tabs so if one locks up, the whole Firefox does. IE runs many copies of itself.
I_Hate_Cows
05-03-2005, 15:56
Bizarre, but it looks like the FireFox programmers didn't "multi-thread" the individual sessions/tabs so if one locks up, the whole Firefox does. IE runs many copies of itself.
Until you want to force close one, then they all go
Swimmingpool
05-03-2005, 15:56
Bizarre, but it looks like the FireFox programmers didn't "multi-thread" the individual sessions/tabs so if one locks up, the whole Firefox does. IE runs many copies of itself.
Yes but the same problem persists in IE. If one copy freezes, the rest do too.
Greater Valia
05-03-2005, 16:05
Motherfucking Slimbrowser. Whine all day about how, "FireFox is teh shit". The truth remains, Slimbrowser pwns. Google it I dont have a link.
I V Stalin
05-03-2005, 16:10
I've been using Firefox for about six months now, on the recommendation of....almost everyone on this forum. No spyware, no nothing. It's fricking great. Thankee everyone.
[NS]Ein Deutscher
05-03-2005, 16:33
Firefox rules supreme. I just wonder, why IE still seems to be the "market" leader in this area. Obviously a load of people think that FF is way better.
Swimmingpool
05-03-2005, 16:50
Ein Deutscher']Firefox rules supreme. I just wonder, why IE still seems to be the "market" leader in this area. Obviously a load of people think that FF is way better.
It's because everyone's PC comes with IE. Only more regular surfers would interested to check out the alternatives.
Hogsweat
05-03-2005, 16:57
Firefox all ze vay!

btw, Swimmingpool, your NS political compass.. how did you get all the info to base people on that? It's damn cool :-D Really i should have tg'ed but meh.

I used to love Opera, but some of my favourite sites don't work on it - can anyone fix the fact that randomly some sites don't work on Opera work on Firefox?

Tbh, I hope less people use firefox, so that it remains spyware free.
Capital Square
05-03-2005, 17:27
Too lazy to log off of my UN nation. At any rate. . .

I've been using Firefox since it was Firebird. I don't understand why anybody uses Internet Explorer, and Netscape has been corrupted by AOL.

I should probably use Mozilla though. Now that Firefox is popular it may ruin perceptions of my nerdiness.

Peace, Truth, Liberty, and Justice,
Luke(Qaaolchoura)
Squirrel Nuts
05-03-2005, 17:38
I've never even heard of anything but Safari, Netscape, and IE. I didn't know FireFox existed until now but you have all made me interested. For the average computer user I think you hear almost exclusively about IE so that's just what you use.
Celtlund
05-03-2005, 17:55
whats better in your opinion Internet explorer, Fire Fox, or Opera or differant alternative I have yet to hear of yet

Firefox. Tab brousing and no pop-ups. However, don't get rid of IE as I have had a problem on one or two sites with FF. Never used Opera.
Celtlund
05-03-2005, 18:01
I've never even heard of anything but Safari, Netscape, and IE. I didn't know FireFox existed until now but you have all made me interested. For the average computer user I think you hear almost exclusively about IE so that's just what you use.

Here you go. It's free. http://www.mozilla.org/
I_Hate_Cows
05-03-2005, 18:02
Firefox. Tab brousing and no pop-ups. However, don't get rid of IE as I have had a problem on one or two sites with FF. Never used Opera.
I just use IE for things that require alot of activex stuff - online virus checkers pretty much
Libertty
05-03-2005, 18:15
Firefox. It's open source, so you know exactly what you're getting..

It's far more secure than IE.

It's a small program, so it fits very well on older computers with limited hard drive space.

And the extensions like ChatZilla, built in Google search, and pop up blockers are just sweet.
Squirrel Nuts
05-03-2005, 18:19
what my boyfriend says on the topic:

jon: it[firefox] is really just for noobs who kinda know what they are doing, but don't know enough to keep IE clean
I_Hate_Cows
05-03-2005, 18:22
what my boyfriend says on the topic:

jon: it[firefox] is really just for noobs who kinda know what they are doing, but don't know enough to keep IE clean
Eww, microsoft fanboy, ew. It takes more than any one needs to know to keep IE clean
Squirrel Nuts
05-03-2005, 18:26
keeping it clean is part of his job so he would need to know how to
Affenfelsen
05-03-2005, 18:26
what my boyfriend says on the topic:

jon: it[firefox] is really just for noobs who kinda know what they are doing, but don't know enough to keep IE clean


I bet he doesn't drive with seatbelts either...I heard only noobs do that
Squirrel Nuts
05-03-2005, 18:29
I bet he doesn't drive with seatbelts either...I heard only noobs do that

lol. he drives with seatbelts. if he didn't i'd kick him. safety first yo. he drives like an old lady really.

here's some more from le jon:

jon: I am in no way a microsoft fanboy. The wana-be haxors who use FF just piss me off. I mean if you seriously have sweet computer hacking skills you would be able to keep IE clean.
jon: you wouldn't have to stoop to second rate browsers like FF.
Upitatanium
05-03-2005, 19:02
Firefox.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a communist.
Alien Born
05-03-2005, 19:08
lol. he drives with seatbelts. if he didn't i'd kick him. safety first yo. he drives like an old lady really.

here's some more from le jon:

jon: I am in no way a microsoft fanboy. The wana-be haxors who use FF just piss me off. I mean if you seriously have sweet computer hacking skills you would be able to keep IE clean.
jon: you wouldn't have to stoop to second rate browsers like FF.

I think what he means is that if people shift to firefox he will be out of a job. No need for his skills when the browser is solid to start with.
Alternatively his is pissed because he can't hack firefox.
Legless Pirates
05-03-2005, 19:12
IE and proud of it
I_Hate_Cows
05-03-2005, 19:16
lol. he drives with seatbelts. if he didn't i'd kick him. safety first yo. he drives like an old lady really.

here's some more from le jon:

jon: I am in no way a microsoft fanboy. The wana-be haxors who use FF just piss me off. I mean if you seriously have sweet computer hacking skills you would be able to keep IE clean.
jon: you wouldn't have to stoop to second rate browsers like FF.
Tell the MS fanboy that when IE stops stucking I'll start using it again
Hogsweat
05-03-2005, 20:41
Firefox.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a communist.
I'm a Communist and I like firefox...

Oh, and please ask "Jon" Why FF is second rate?
Interhard
05-03-2005, 21:08
Firefox

Blahblah Tabs blahblah pop ups blocker blah blah plug ins....a bunch of stuff that has already been mentioned
Werel
06-03-2005, 12:18
I use Maxthon (http://www.maxthon.com). It's tabbed like firefox, has a search bar, and advanced popup/ad filtering. It's cool because it still supports ActiveX. Only issue I have with it is that it's built off the IE framework, thus having limited PNG support. Don't get me wrong, Maxthon blocks pretty much all of the adware and spyware that IE alone is prone to.
I have to say that ActiveX is one of the main security risks of IE so thats not a good thing. And what is with the Grey background when it should be clear in IE, very irratating.

Yes but the same problem persists in IE. If one copy freezes, the rest do too.
on my computer if IE freezes the whole computer crashes :rolleyes: , it manages that even when I am just checking my hotmail addy (for some reason hotmail still opens in IE from msn messanger even though firefox is my preffered browser)

I use firefox and cannot now live without tabbed browsing. I have to say I got my first ever virus through firefox a few weeks ago which doesn't bode well for the future. I also find firefox takes ages to start for me and it completly stops working while loading Java. And last time I tried an extension refused to install but it doesn't bother me much.
Another slightly strage bug is with my site's flash menu, if you scrool down the page and try to click a link it will take you to a totally different page, so I am now going back to simple html menus on my site (if anyone knows how to fix this it would be appreciated).

I would also be intrested if anyone knows of any good text only browsers.

And I would like to know how anyone can use the aol browser for more than 3 mins without killing themselves, my friend uses AoL as their internet connection and it has got to be the most irratating thing ever.

lol. he drives with seatbelts. if he didn't i'd kick him. safety first yo. he drives like an old lady really.

here's some more from le jon:

jon: I am in no way a microsoft fanboy. The wana-be haxors who use FF just piss me off. I mean if you seriously have sweet computer hacking skills you would be able to keep IE clean.
jon: you wouldn't have to stoop to second rate browsers like FF.

sure I can keep IE clean but why make more work for my self, and I like tabbed browsing much too much. Which browser would he recommend?
LazyHippies
06-03-2005, 12:24
Opera might have a slight edge over Firefox until you take price into account. You cant beat free.
Spaam
06-03-2005, 12:48
Wow... 82%... Firefox rocks :D
Lapse
06-03-2005, 12:58
I was always a Internet explorer person untiul around a month ago, when our Internet explorer got so overloaded with hijacks, spyware, and adware, i used the last of my patience way it to gte fre fox..

I should have got it years ago :D

now it takes less than 4 minutes to load up an internet site :D
Zouloukistan
06-03-2005, 15:55
I use FireFox since two weeks or so (I used Internet Explorer before) and it's GREAT!!!!! The tabs are ... magic!! Everyone should use it!!!

Or Opera, but I don't know what it is.
Ralina
06-03-2005, 16:58
I love Firefox soooo much! Even my college is switching its internet browsers to firefox from IE.
Naturality
06-03-2005, 17:24
Wish I had read this thread yesterday.