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...that Jesus Christ is the one and only Lord and Savior, and when you accept him into your heart and into your life, he works miracles, and a great power and presence comes over you! I have felt this presence many times, and I strongly encourage everyone to atleast give Christianity a fair try. God is great, He is the best thing there is that we have. If you are struggling in your life right now, take a chance to pray to God, ask him for help, and see what happens!

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Good for you. I will pray for you so that you can open your mind to other belief systems too and not judge anyone. Good luck!

oh I forgot to tell you, if youw ant to feel the geat power of God you can take some hallucinogenic mushrooms. I have felt this many times. I encourage you to at least give it a fair try. See what happens!

I dunno... the like.. too many gods I believe in now is already alot..
I dunno if I could make room for one more.

Uness you're advocating that this new god rule above all others... in which case, I dunno... that's a pretty unfair fight.. thousands against one.

And this savior buisness you speak of.. makes no sense to me. Must be some inside joke, I hope.

Of course, I feel the presence of the gods all the time, why just today Utu gave me a swift kick in the butt for almost falling asleep in my Linguistics class... he really can be a jark at making me fulfill my promises.


So yea... your argument isn't really convincing, nor does it seam strong...
Perhaps you could elaborate a little more please?

Just feel that I need to warn you right now. Don't try to go and convert people in this board. It won't be recieved well, no matter how positive or negetive the message.

Good luck.

EDIT: 12 am...need sleep.

Good tip.

Now for my tip:

The old bucket over the door trick is far too difficult.

Here's an easier way of accomplishing the same thing: Take a paper bag and fill it about halfway or a little less with a dry powdery mess(soot or flour are excellent). Fold the bag closed, securing it with a few paperclips so it won't come open. Then place two-sided tape on the bottom of the bag. Attach the bag to the ceiling above the target door. Carefully remove the paperclips from the bag, keeping the folded opening shut. Tuck this folded opening into the space above the door, taking care that the bag remains closed. When the door is opened, the bag will pop open and Poof! Instant mess. :D

Christian bashing is fun! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seriously guys; get it together. This post is not inflammatory in anyway; why are you attacking it? Or is it free speech for everyone but Christians? :rolleyes:

Good tip.

Now for my tip:

The old bucket over the door trick is far too difficult.

Here's an easier way of accomplishing the same thing: Take a paper bag and fill it about halfway or a little less with a dry powdery mess(soot or flour are excellent). Fold the bag closed, securing it with a few paperclips so it won't come open. Then place two-sided tape on the bottom of the bag. Attach the bag to the ceiling above the target door. Carefully remove the paperclips from the bag, keeping the folded opening shut. Tuck this folded opening into the space above the door, taking care that the bag remains closed. When the door is opened, the bag will pop open and Poof! Instant mess. :D

Huh?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=402055

Go to my thread on D&D to see why I have accepted Christ. The guy ran a Paladin/Cleric multiclass, he must be awesome! Of course, Satan playes a mean rogue, Mohammad's cleric isn't bad either, and we can't rule out God as the ultimate DM...

Good tip.

Now for my tip:

The old bucket over the door trick is far too difficult.

Here's an easier way of accomplishing the same thing: Take a paper bag and fill it about halfway or a little less with a dry powdery mess(soot or flour are excellent). Fold the bag closed, securing it with a few paperclips so it won't come open. Then place two-sided tape on the bottom of the bag. Attach the bag to the ceiling above the target door. Carefully remove the paperclips from the bag, keeping the folded opening shut. Tuck this folded opening into the space above the door, taking care that the bag remains closed. When the door is opened, the bag will pop open and Poof! Instant mess. :D
Now for my tip!

Although acetominophen is fairly hepatoxic, it is not the correct way to attempt suicide. You may survive up to two weeks in horrendous pain, and you will most likely get dragge dto a doctor and saved from death and have to live out the rest of your life with impaired liver function.

Christian bashing is fun! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seriously guys; get it together. This post is not inflammatory in anyway; why are you attacking it? Or is it free speech for everyone but Christians? :rolleyes:

Thank you kind sir. I was just using my right to freedom of speech to convey a very important message.

Christian bashing is fun! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Seriously guys; get it together. This post is not inflammatory in anyway; why are you attacking it?
Because obviously all Christians are mean bad people! Or at least, that's what many of the people of General here seem to think about them...
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Grr at hypocrisy.

Good tip.

Now for my tip:

The old bucket over the door trick is far too difficult.

Here's an easier way of accomplishing the same thing: Take a paper bag and fill it about halfway or a little less with a dry powdery mess(soot or flour are excellent). Fold the bag closed, securing it with a few paperclips so it won't come open. Then place two-sided tape on the bottom of the bag. Attach the bag to the ceiling above the target door. Carefully remove the paperclips from the bag, keeping the folded opening shut. Tuck this folded opening into the space above the door, taking care that the bag remains closed. When the door is opened, the bag will pop open and Poof! Instant mess. :D

That's a good idea! And that way you can just close the door instead of leaving it cracked open just the right amount. I'm going to have to remember that one. :D

what is teh point in tryign to convert people anyway?

how is it that you can actually know for sure that the God you feel when you practice your religion is any more true or real than the God someone else feels when they practice their religion.

Shouldn't you live and let live? Allow people to find by seeking rather than having someone preach the fear of God into them about how they either have to believe what you believe or else they are going to eternal hellfire?

Thank you kind sir. I was just using my right to freedom of speech to convey a very important message.

And I'd like to think I was so far the only one not bashing it.
Just asking for an elaboration, in a creative, truthful, and non-Christian sort of way. Something anyone who is looking for converts is going to have to deal with.

hey, aren't we all just trying to show each other the err of each others ways? :D

Most Christians are all right. However, they usually don't take kindly to random and poorly argued attempts at conversion, and non-Christians are no different there.

what is teh point in tryign to convert people anyway?

how is it that you can actually know for sure that the God you feel when you practice your religion is any more true or real than the God someone else feels when they practice their religion.

Shouldn't you live and let live? Allow people to find by seeking rather than having someone preach the fear of God into them about how they either have to believe what you believe or else they are going to eternal hellfire?

If you have to look at it that way then my statement to you is "better safe than sorry."

what is teh point in tryign to convert people anyway?

how is it that you can actually know for sure that the God you feel when you practice your religion is any more true or real than the God someone else feels when they practice their religion.

Shouldn't you live and let live? Allow people to find by seeking rather than having someone preach the fear of God into them about how they either have to believe what you believe or else they are going to eternal hellfire?

May I ask where in his post did he mention anything about eternal hellfire.

You really are demented, aren't you?

Just grab a piece of fat and slide off!

I wasn't bashing so much as advertising my thread, but it is related, and will siphon off some of the bashers, theoretically.

May I ask where in his post did he mention anything about eternal hellfire.

You really are demented, aren't you?

Just grab a piece of fat and slide off!

What's in your bonnet, Wadd?

Im just going to take this chance to say that tequila is the one and only savior, and when you accept it into your stomach and into your life, it works miracles, and a great urge to hurl regularly comes over you! I have felt this presence many times, and I strongly encourage everyone to atleast give tequila a fair try. Booze is great, it's the best thing there is that we have. If you are struggling in your life right now, take the time to have a drink, or several and see what happens and what you remember!

If you have to look at it that way then my statement to you is "better safe than sorry."

Well, in that case, I'm alot safter religiously where I am.

Christianity I have 2 options (Generally), Heaven, and Hell.
One is great, eternal paradise, the other is well.. Hell.

In my religion, I die, I go to Aralli, the underworld, where everyone who dies goes. Everyone is treated equally, and is judged once a lunar month by Nana (The moon god) and Utu (The sun god, whom I believe I am in good with), and treated accordingly.

Now as such, unless I say, am burned alive and there is nothing left, I pretty much get to chill in Ereshkigal's kingdom (Aralli, Ereshkigal being the goddess of the underworld) for all eternity, and I'm sure by now they have an Xbox, so I wont get bored.

See my point? "Better safe then sorry" tactic doesn't quite hold up.. perhaps another try?

May I ask where in his post did he mention anything about eternal hellfire.

You really are demented, aren't you?

Just grab a piece of fat and slide off!


Well then what is Christ the one and only savior of? he's gotta be savoring you from something.


And I aint touching your fat or anythign else of yours. I've heard about you and your dirty dirty ways.
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Yo, peoples... calm down, he wasn't being an intolerant jerk or anything, just spreading a message.

To the author: as you can tell, "conversionist" tales are not taken well on this forum. As a warning, since you are Christian, don't try to argue your religion here, because so many inflammatory little shits (sorry if that's harsh) of your persuasion tend to come on this board that you'll be automatically pigeonholed. Kinda hypocritical of us as that's what we tend to complain about, but I'm just saying what I've observed.

I have a question about Christianity, why are Christians homophobes? If god made us in his image, why are there even women, doesn't that mean that because were in his image only men are human and women are an offshoot? Doesn't that make homosexuality legit?

BTW I am not gay, I just have to do a debate on it so I want some serious answers, so that when I use this in the debate, and it gets countered (most likely by something similiar to what you say) I will have some form of forewarning.

I have a question about Christianity, why are Christians homophobes?
They aren't all homophobes.
Next question.

If you have to look at it that way then my statement to you is "better safe than sorry."


Well Christs' Apostles, I am very happy for you that you found something that makes you happy. I'm sorry if I asked you to open your mind to other belief systems like you asked us to do.

Anyway, I think my question was valid and I don't think yoru answer was sufficient .

Also, I never bashed anyone :) I have Christian friends, I'm not a christophobe. I actually like much of what Christ talked about in the Bible.

They aren't all homophobes.
Next question.

Thank you, Neo, I love you. :fluffle:
I am so tired of being generalized; this really enheartens me.

hello. i am willing to give christianity a try if you can answer a few questions that i have on christianity. i am asking for a fair question and answer with reasoning and rationality behind all questions and answers.
1. Is god omniscience?
2. Is god omnipotent?
3. Can logic be applied to god?
4. Can god be wrong?

hello. i am willing to give christianity a try if you can answer a few questions that i have on christianity. i am asking for a fair question and answer with reasoning and rationality behind all questions and answers.
1. Is god omniscience?
2. Is god omnipotent?
3. Can logic be applied to god?
4. Can god be wrong?

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Can be, but not necessary.
4) From a human perspective maybe, but thats cause we humans only have acces to the here and now. In the divine/cosmic sense, nope.

Well then what is Christ the one and only savior of? he's gotta be savoring you from something.


And I aint touching your fat or anythign else of yours. I've heard about you and your dirty dirty ways.
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You just don't understand common expressions! It's not my fat, it's some other fat, like the stuff between your ears!

You just don't understand common expressions! It's not my fat, it's some other fat, like the stuff between your ears!

Answer the question little Johnny (_)_)))D

I have a question about religion in general that applies to Christianity as well.

Why do so many religious fundamentalists seem to love violence. It seems the religion they follow preaches peace, so if they are so fanatical about their religion, shouldn't they maybe also be peaceful?

Just look at Johnny Wadd, he is one of the rudest, most hateful violent guys on this board.

I have a question about religion in general that applies to Christianity as well.

Why do so many religious fundamentalists seem to love violence. It seems the religion they follow preaches peace, so if they are so fanatical about their religion, shouldn't they maybe also be peaceful?

Just look at Johnny Wadd, he is one of the rudest, most hateful violent guys on this board.

If Johnny Wadd is serious about 5% of the stuff he says, I'll eat my face.

lol

please don't because it is possible and I'm sure you will need yoru face in teh future for stuff

aside from Johnny, you know that fundies are often violent and the question remains "why?"

If Johnny Wadd is serious about 5% of the stuff he says, I'll eat my face.

I'm never too sure why it's okay to be an obnoxious rude asshole flaming everything in sight on a forum if you're not serious about it. It's like if I were allowed to shoot rifles randomly in front of the White House, as long as I wasn't really trying to hit the President.

True, I don't see why the mods have pwnd him yet. Maybe he knows them personally? To SU-the rest of your name: I think my face is fairly secure in this bet.

lol

please don't because it is possible and I'm sure you will need yoru face in teh future for stuff

aside from Johnny, you know that fundies are often violent and the question remains "why?"

Same reason Muslims are sometimes violent; same reason atheists are sometimes violent. Some people simply can't handle the fact that others can believe differently. Since Christianity is the biggest religion in the US, it gets put in the spotlight.

True, I don't see why the mods have pwnd him yet.
They have, he's had at least two accounts before, if I remember what Myrth said correctly.

They have, he's had at least two accounts before, if I remember what Myrth said correctly.

Ah, okay.

Wanna lick my eyeball?

Sure, can we set up a meeting? :D

... fundies are often violent and the question remains "why?"
I too have wondered about this and suspect that it may be due to a lack of faith and to a lack of real knowledge about what Christianity teaches. I also suspect that many fundamentalists unconsciously realize the fundamental flaws in their beliefs and use outward anger to distract themselves from inner confusion.

Huh?

If you don't understand, I don't know if I can help you to. You just have to believe. :p

It's significant that a forum that is primarily concerned with politics and national/international affairs cannot avoid religion at all. Ever. Heh.

Thanks for the tip, Apostles.

...that Jesus Christ is the one and only Lord and Savior,

Prove it in a way that would stand up in an unbiased court.


and when you accept him into your heart and into your life, he works miracles, and a great power and presence comes over you!


That sounds creepy as hell.


I have felt this presence many times,


Just because you like it doesn't mean anyone else would like it. Also doesn't mean that the presence was a real one. Psychotics feel a variety of presences. Would you starve yourself so there was room for Marduk to dwell inside of you?


and I strongly encourage everyone to atleast give Christianity a fair try.


Have you tried every single religion in existance?

Until you have, you're a hypocrite, and thus actively sinning.

Frankly, yours is better than few, worse than many.


God is great,


According to my moral compass, were he real, he's an evil degenerate hateful Religion Nazi.


He is the best thing there is that we have.


Your lack of morals disgusts me, if that's how you truly feel.

I find a good cuddle is MUCH better than killing all the first born of Egypt.


If you are struggling in your life right now, take a chance to pray to God, ask him for help, and see what happens!


I'm not struggling. I've done much less stupid stuff than most of the Christians I know, without being an outright coward about life. The Jesus-Praiser behind me is an ex-druggie. The psycho preacher on campus is an ex-druggie. There's that creepy woman with the pink hair on TV, the 700 Club, that Homophobe Warmonger in the White House (Well, the several...)...

Your religion doesn't promote many values I agree with, and promotes values for the wrong reasons. It's evil.

And being an atheist has led to me having a rather interesting, pleasant life.

I will say this. Christians give good head. Good lord. :fluffle: :D

Thank you, Neo, I love you. :fluffle:
I am so tired of being generalized; this really enheartens me.

I love Der and Neo

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"Now this is evil! you will burn in hell!" :D
None of the arguments can convince a christian. If he is a nice christian he will probably stay home and make a pryer for you.
If not he will probably try to stabb you some day "to cure the world of evil!"

1. if god is omniscience then why didnt he know that eve and adam would eat from the tree of knowledge. following along that line of thought before they ate from the tree they didnt know right from wrong so why should they be punished for that act.
2. if god is omnipotent then why do all the stories in the bible happen in a chronological order and no two people, who live in different places, talk to god at the same time
3. and 4. why is it not necesary for logic to be applied to god? it would seem logical that if a god is going to be worshipped then that god should make sense. a good bit of illogic of the christian god is found in a verse of the bible (genisis 38) talks about how god kills a person for no apparent reason. now my question is.
Should god be held to the laws that he/she/it created for man?
it doesnt seem logical for a god to kill/murder a human when that god has said it is wrong to kill/muder a human