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drugs!

Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 01:52
most threads about drugs on here are ususally morality debates or question 'have you ever taken them'? for a change im asking 'what is the most profound experience you have had with drugs'? what is the coolest moment, or the worst?


for me, i smoke weed every day and pretty much always enjoy it (though i have been getting high less easily recently), and haven't tried any more 'exotic' drugs (LSD for eg). so my coolest experience was a hallucination of the wall bulging out towards me after smoking loads :)
worst experience was last year in halls of residence, when security came to tell us we were playing guitar too loud (at like 3am, so completely fair) and they saw the sock over the fire alarm... and the weed. thankfully they turned a blind eye (yay UK reclassificaion!!) but that could have been bad
Monkeypimp
04-03-2005, 01:54
The best was when I got drunk, stoned and ripped on shrooms before setting my hair on fire. Apparently it was a scary moment for the people who witnessed it as the grease in my hair caught.
Legless Pirates
04-03-2005, 01:56
Had some bad cake (we suspect there was LSD in it)... I myself wasn't bothered too much. I laid down and kept saying to myself that it was just the drugs playing tricks with my mind. A friend of mine, however, got really depressed up till the point that he thought he was gonna die that night. Pretty fucked up


Oh.... and I had to do a presentation training the day after, while being really fucked up
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 02:00
Most of the drugs I took weren't the sort that really give profound experience. Opiates and amphetamines, mostly they just gave me body highs.
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 02:01
another good one: we bought some 30x Salvia extract (legal, powerful herb... 30x is quite strong - £35 for a gram!) at Download festival last year and smoked it all between 3 of us in the tent that night (along with many beers and lots of weed). it was fairly trippy - the hanging torch from the top of the tent was so interesting and made some cool patterns... lol - but the best bit was a indescribable feeling of just being happy being alive. that was nice.


lol i realised how much we hotboxed the tent when i went out for a slash. came back in and it was like a fuckin fog :p
Mental Hospital
04-03-2005, 02:03
umm,, probably not lsd in the cake. LSD is unstable at room temperature, as in that it will decompose in contact with sunlight and many other things at room temp. Not only that, but baking the cake (assumin it was in the batter originally kinda dealy) would again cause it to decompose.
31
04-03-2005, 02:03
Prescription painkillers are the best. Nothing beats that clear minded, frantic energy they induce in me. A rush that I still long for after two years without one.
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 02:05
another good one: we bought some 30x Salvia extract (legal, powerful herb... 30x is quite strong - £35 for a gram!) at Download festival last year and smoked it all between 3 of us in the tent that night (along with many beers and lots of weed). it was fairly trippy - the hanging torch from the top of the tent was so interesting and made some cool patterns... lol - but the best bit was a indescribable feeling of just being happy being alive. that was nice.
I always wanted a Salvia divinorum plant...
Legless Pirates
04-03-2005, 02:05
umm,, probably not lsd in the cake. LSD is unstable at room temperature, as in that it will decompose in contact with sunlight and many other things at room temp. Not only that, but baking the cake (assumin it was in the batter originally kinda dealy) would again cause it to decompose.
Maybe they put it in there later.... I don't know.

All I know is that weed is no hallucinogen
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 02:06
umm,, probably not lsd in the cake. LSD is unstable at room temperature, as in that it will decompose in contact with sunlight and many other things at room temp. Not only that, but baking the cake (assumin it was in the batter originally kinda dealy) would again cause it to decompose.
:confused:
I'm fairly sure lysergic acid can survive some of it at least, based on what I've heard about wheat with ergot fungus getting into food and giving people hallucinations...
Corisan
04-03-2005, 02:06
most threads about drugs on here are ususally morality debates or question 'have you ever taken them'? for a change im asking 'what is the most profound experience you have had with drugs'? what is the coolest moment, or the worst?


for me, i smoke weed every day and pretty much always enjoy it (though i have been getting high less easily recently), and haven't tried any more 'exotic' drugs (LSD for eg). so my coolest experience was a hallucination of the wall bulging out towards me after smoking loads :)
worst experience was last year in halls of residence, when security came to tell us we were playing guitar too loud (at like 3am, so completely fair) and they saw the sock over the fire alarm... and the weed. thankfully they turned a blind eye (yay UK reclassificaion!!) but that could have been bad

I only smoke weed, but One time me and my buddy smoked a half in like 30 minutes to an hour and I started to hallucinate that sucked.
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 02:07
I always wanted a Salvia divinorum plant...
hehe i still want to buy one... its legal! :) :)

Maybe they put it in there later.... I don't know.

All I know is that weed is no hallucinogen
high enough dose it is a little
Mental Hospital
04-03-2005, 02:08
:confused:
I'm fairly sure lysergic acid can survive some of it at least, based on what I've heard about wheat with ergot fungus getting into food and giving people hallucinations...

Ya said the key word there about ergot fungus. Its not lsd, instead being one of many possible precursors in the manafactur of lsd. Obviously it has some psychoactive properties itself, or formed a psychoactive compound within the mix. Also LSD isn't lysergic Acid, lysergic acid is LSA (tho it is also psychoactive, to a much lessor degree,, its also alot more stable) LSD is Lysergic Acid Diethylamide.
Cannot think of a name
04-03-2005, 02:10
Smoking is fairly common thing, so there isn't one spectacular experience that rises by others, except maybe the first time it really effected me and I layed on the floor listening to Hendrix at a friends house. I understood the word 'relaxed' for the first time in my life.

I don't like acid and will not do it again, but one of my best days ever was with some friends. We dropped and went and saw Star Wars at the theater I was a projectionist at. There really is no 'seeing god' kinda thing going on or anything like that, it was just a shared experience that was pretty incredible.

Also on acid I watched a train go by after wasting my dose watching that Jennifer Lopez dream movie, whatever it was called. No way to understand that unless you've done acid.

'Shrums are fantastic. I don't do them that often mostly because they are hard for me to get and since I think thats a good control method I don't do anything to correct that. I watched the Lord of the Rings movies on shrums and I was there...man....I tend to want to be home when I 'shrum, so there isn't one thing I like doing or seeing-I just want to be safe.

I also LOVE video games and rides when messed up because I refuse to drive even high but I love motion or the illusion of it which is what video games and rides give me.
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 02:11
Ya said the key word there about ergot fungus. Its not lsd, instead being one of many possible precursors in the manafactur of lsd. Obviously it has some psychoactive properties itself, or formed a psychoactive compound within the mix.
:headbang:
Right, I forgot that ergot fungus has ergotamine rather than lysergic acid diethylamide. Thanks for the reminder there.
King Binks
04-03-2005, 02:11
I'm having a good one right now. My best experience though was the first time I smoked weed, I was laughing so hard. Great night. I haven't had a bad experience yet. Once I was so stoned I felt like I was going through a vortex though and I held onto the wall with all my strenth so I wouldn't get sucked away into nothing.
Legless Pirates
04-03-2005, 02:12
...that Jennifer Lopez dream movie, whatever it was called...
The cell
Cannot think of a name
04-03-2005, 02:14
The cell
Thats the one. You know you have problems when even acid won't make the movie interesting...
EmoBuddy
04-03-2005, 02:14
Morphine at the hospital - I was near death but it felt so good that I actually smiled...plus it made me think of crazy things, like glow-in-the-dark paper/ink.
Monkeypimp
04-03-2005, 02:16
I'm having a good one right now. My best experience though was the first time I smoked weed, I was laughing so hard. Great night. I haven't had a bad experience yet. Once I was so stoned I felt like I was going through a vortex though and I held onto the wall with all my strenth so I wouldn't get sucked away into nothing.

My first time on weed was probably the best as well.
Legless Pirates
04-03-2005, 02:17
Watching "Goodbye Lenin" while smoking weed on a festival was pretty cool
Ellegoria
04-03-2005, 02:21
Tripped out on schrooms today during school. It lasted from 9 (first period) to around 1:30-2 (last period). It was rather insane. Trying to do group work in biology, duing the peak high was impossible. I had to stay silent and just watch my peers' faces melt and hope the walls didn't breathe on me.

I came to a rather important revelation. The people around me are complete idiots and I'm surprised they aren't failing. They must to work so hard to retain the marks they have, which is hilarious, because I can not come to school and go on crazy psychedelic trips during class and still make honour roll.

Those Magic Eye dealies, where stuff morphs out of a background pattern, but there's no actually *change* in the pattern? Everything was like that. During the peak, during Bio, the teacher was talking, and her face would go all 80s-poster-style on me, as if the world suddenly only function in 256 colours. The most common thing was where objects would suddenly become outlines, or the negative space between objects would be filled with a rainbow border that would just continue and circle in on itself. If I stared at say, the floor, it would quickly split into several layers, each semi-transparent and slightly skewed laterally from on another. Then the colours/blobs would start to swirl, get bigger and smaller, do all those typically crazy 60s pattern things.

Desks were fun. The spotted grey pattern on the desk would almost immediately phase into different levels, and a pattern would come up, created by lighter or darker lines of the desk's pattern. They were sort of Aztec-like, and very strange. Very clean and pretty though, if I'd had the motor skills I would have loved to draw them. Very simple, very bubble and curvy, with right angles and soft-right angles... they were awesome. It was very much like the 'glowing lines appearing from rock to draw a design' effect you often see in movies.

In the beginning, I could see sound. When people spoke, ripples would move outwards in a perfect circle, but they were 3D ripples, but I could still see perfectly right through them. They would extend, freeze, crystallize, and when I blinked, fade away.

It was an awesome experience, but I wouldn't do it again during school. The murmur of people talking was very unpleasant, and I'd much rather be in an environment where I could totally let go and just enjoy it, stare and touch stuff. Like a small colourful quiet room all alone, with some music and a notebook. And some crazy artwork.
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 02:24
Tripped out of schrooms today during school.
Shit, was that a good idea?
I mean, with something where they couldn't tell as much like amphetamines, I could understand, but shrooms?
Damn!
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 02:27
Ya said the key word there about ergot fungus. Its not lsd, instead being one of many possible precursors in the manafactur of lsd. Obviously it has some psychoactive properties itself, or formed a psychoactive compound within the mix. Also LSD isn't lysergic Acid, lysergic acid is LSA (tho it is also psychoactive, to a much lessor degree,, its also alot more stable) LSD is Lysergic Acid Diethylamide.
doesn't LSA come from baby hawaiian woodrow seeds (too)?
International Terrans
04-03-2005, 02:27
One time after band practice, I came home, smoked about a gram of weed, and then listened to my record of Dark Side of the Moon...

Suffice it to say, I was never the same.
Cannot think of a name
04-03-2005, 02:29
One time after band practice, I came home, smoked about a gram of weed, and then listened to my record of Dark Side of the Moon...

Suffice it to say, I was never the same.
I used to smoke out and jam with the combo, the only problem was I would take like 100 chorus' and the drummer would start throwing things at me...
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 02:30
doesn't LSA come from baby hawaiian woodrow seeds (too)?
Hawaiin baby woodrose seeds, yup.
LSA is in some varieties of morning glory seeds too.
International Terrans
04-03-2005, 02:31
I used to smoke out and jam with the combo, the only problem was I would take like 100 chorus' and the drummer would start throwing things at me...
Well, as in like school band (I play trumpet, by the way).

Speaking of which... trumpet mouthpieces make excellent bong bowls.
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 02:36
Morphine at the hospital - I was near death but it felt so good that I actually smiled...plus it made me think of crazy things, like glow-in-the-dark paper/ink.
oh yeah i had morphine after a bad car crash when i was 11. all i remember is feeling like i was flying a lot and then being very sick a few hours later.

i think today i would appreciate the whole experience more (still wouldn't self-administer anything like morphine though, but if doctors put it in me i'd at least enjoy the ride! :D )

Hawaiin baby woodrose seeds, yup.
LSA is in some varieties of morning glory seeds too.
ah cheers for clearing that up. my mate, who is into many different drugs and i get info off, can't speak too well anymore :p (he knows it, its funny) so i never knew how it was supposed to sound (or be spelt)
Trilateral Commission
04-03-2005, 02:37
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Legless Pirates
04-03-2005, 02:38
Oh... and smoking my first homegrown. I was so proud
Cannot think of a name
04-03-2005, 02:39
Well, as in like school band (I play trumpet, by the way).

Speaking of which... trumpet mouthpieces make excellent bong bowls.
Sax player-which would make a great bong....

For me it was in college, which made the whole thing a lot easier.

What I really needed was one of those, what are they called? Minus ones or whatever...a tireless rhythm section. Or, and this would have helped, smoke out the rhythm section. (it was just the horns that where high, me another sax player and a trumpet)
Musky Furballs
04-03-2005, 02:39
Does self-hypnosis count as a drug?
I made myself believe I was one with the earth I lay on and I could feel the rivers running over me, the breeze rustling the grass, animals wandering, cars driving over me. . . (I was outside).
Eutrusca
04-03-2005, 02:40
I have little or no respect for anyone who uses drugs or alcohol to excess, particularly if they raise hell about ciggarette-smoking! :(
The Island of Rose
04-03-2005, 02:45
I don't need to do weed. I have a gland in my body that recreates the experience of highness naturally.

It's called insanity! Wheeeeeeee!
Oksana
04-03-2005, 02:48
Okay, I have to admit. I haven't ever done drugs. :confused:
Eutrusca
04-03-2005, 02:58
Okay, I have to admit. I haven't ever done drugs. :confused:
Good for you, Oksana! Neither have I, except for a couple of joints just to see if it would make me "high," which it didn't. :)
Teh Cameron Clan
04-03-2005, 02:58
none dont do them :P
Jjuulliiaann
04-03-2005, 02:58
Okay, I have to admit. I haven't ever done drugs. :confused:Same here.
King Binks
04-03-2005, 03:03
Good for you, Oksana! Neither have I, except for a couple of joints just to see if it would make me "high," which it didn't. :)
What else would you smoke a joint for? Sorry it didn't work too. :)
Cannot think of a name
04-03-2005, 03:05
Well, we managed to get to three pages before the self-satisfied and moralizing started....
I have little or no respect for anyone who uses drugs or alcohol to excess, particularly if they raise hell about ciggarette-smoking! :(
Where do you get this stuff? Seriously-are you getting your perception of 'hippies' and counter-culture from Scooby-Doo cartoons? Who the hell said anything about cigarettes? Where is that even coming from? Can't you respond to someones actual statement without having to 'give' them a whole new one?
Ravea
04-03-2005, 03:11
Personally, I despise drugs, drug users, and especially drug dealers, having some experiance tracking one down.
King Binks
04-03-2005, 03:19
Personally, I despise drugs, drug users, and especially drug dealers, having some experiance tracking one down.
So the high school and college pot smoking kids are just as bad in your mind as the cocaine and heroin pushers?
Ravea
04-03-2005, 03:26
So the high school and college pot smoking kids are just as bad in your mind as the cocaine and heroin pushers?

In a sense, yes. They are breaking the law, something I have utter respect for.

However, I do see that weed is nowhere near as serious as Cocaine or Acid or anything like that. I'm still not happy about it, though.
New Morglanden
04-03-2005, 03:30
I love to travel. Some of the coolest experiences being:

Smoking joints with Rasta's in the mountains in Jamaica. No such thing as passing joints. Everyone smokes their own to themselves, as a result, you get really high.

Hash in a narjile pipe in Syria. Fucking scary as shit going through military checkpoints when high. Dudes pointing machine guns at you wanting to see your passport...well, that was a not so good one I guess.

Ayahuasca in the Amazon with a shamman spiritual guy. WHAT A TRIP!

Back in the real world, I don't do drugs. Recreationally here and there (every couple of months or so), but that doesn't count.
Eutrusca
04-03-2005, 03:33
What else would you smoke a joint for? Sorry it didn't work too. :)
That's ok, bro. I stay on a natural high most of the time anyway. :D
Eutrusca
04-03-2005, 03:36
Well, we managed to get to three pages before the self-satisfied and moralizing started....

Where do you get this stuff? Seriously-are you getting your perception of 'hippies' and counter-culture from Scooby-Doo cartoons? Who the hell said anything about cigarettes? Where is that even coming from? Can't you respond to someones actual statement without having to 'give' them a whole new one?
What the hell is your problem, man??? I made the statement as a blanket statement, not directed at anyone or any other post than that by the person to whom I replied! Jeeze! Get a friggin' GRIP!!!! :mad:
King Binks
04-03-2005, 03:38
In a sense, yes. They are breaking the law, something I have utter respect for.
Contempt, no? Is it safe to assume you agree with every law on the book then? There are no laws you feel to be unjust?
Cannot think of a name
04-03-2005, 03:41
What the hell is your problem, man??? I made the statement as a blanket statement, not directed at anyone or any other post than that by the person to whom I replied! Jeeze! Get a frioggin' GRIP!!!! :mad:
It's not in code, slugger. Not only is it unsolicited in a thread asking about experiences and not what your opinion of drug users was (which is neither here nor there, it is a public forum) but you threw in a non-sequitor about cigarettes-you where making a blanket statement about an imaginary position. All I'm asking is-Where do you get this stuff?

Don't blow a gasket, it's just a question.
Andaluciae
04-03-2005, 03:43
Personally, I'll opt out on drugs, as, while alcohol is more addictive (and I don't smoke), drugs have the capability to fuck up your brain in one shot, even if you do follow the moderation principle. I pride myself on my intellect and my imagination, and I don't want to risk it.
Ravea
04-03-2005, 03:45
Contempt, no? Is it safe to assume you agree with every law on the book then? There are no laws you feel to be unjust?

Sorry, I meant I have respect for the law, not the law breakers.

*Sigh*

and No, I don't agree with Every Single law in the book-there are many that are unjust and should be changed. I just don't feel that any drug laws need to be changed.
King Binks
04-03-2005, 03:48
Sorry, I meant I have respect for the law, not the law breakers.

*Sigh*

and No, I don't agree with Every Single law in the book-there are many that are unjust and should be changed. I just don't feel that any drug laws need to be changed.
Opinion noted and respected. I think we got kinda off the topic anyways.
Techon
04-03-2005, 03:50
The drugs I've done have done some really wierd shit to me.

Like some cured my headaches, while others made my throat sore. And get this guys, some of them would make my fever go away!
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 03:52
The drugs I've done have done some really wierd shit to me.

Like some cured my headaches, while others made my throat sore. And get this guys, some of them would make my fever go away!
That is some pro-found shit right there!
The South Sand Islands
04-03-2005, 03:55
Personally, I'll opt out on drugs, as, while alcohol is more addictive (and I don't smoke), drugs have the capability to fuck up your brain in one shot, even if you do follow the moderation principle. I pride myself on my intellect and my imagination, and I don't want to risk it.

Completely fair stand point. Know yourself, know the risk and make the right choice for your own ends.

Me? I'm a little more fool hardy when it comes to trying things, although the most interesting experience was completely necessary. I broke my leg in 4 places sk8 boarding. The Pethadine they gave me was awesome. The pain slowly transformed into a general feeling, like a soft ball, and slowly travelled up my body until it reached my head where it left my ears as a soothing high pitched sound. I'd pay money to experience something like that again - well except for the shattered leg.
Kadmark
04-03-2005, 03:57
Personally, I despise drugs, drug users, and especially drug dealers, having some experiance tracking one down.

Agreed.

Though I don't have the experience in tracking drug dealers down hehe.

I have no respect for people who do drugs. They know the implications drugs have on their bodies yet they still do them.
Ravea
04-03-2005, 04:00
Agreed.

Though I don't have the experience in tracking drug dealers down hehe.

I have no respect for people who do drugs. They know the implications drugs have on their bodies yet they still do them.

Jeez, tell me about it. I had to help the police track my brother down across three states after he sold crack to minors. Not a good time, I tell ya.

Fortunetly, he opted for Rehab.
Cogitation
04-03-2005, 04:24
"Cannot think of a name" and "Eutrusca": The both of you need to clam down.

"Eutrusca": You were the first one to bring up cigarettes and the thread author did imply that he wanted to have a discussion other than the morality debate. So, your statement is sorta on-topc, but not quite.

"Cannot think of a name": While you are allowed to challenge the positions of other NationStates posters, you need to remember that some ways of going about it are better than other ways. You are bordering on flamebait.

I'm not issuing official warnings, yet, but I don't want this to escalate.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
THE LOST PLANET
04-03-2005, 10:28
I started to write something about the countless experiances I've had and the amount of psychedelics I've consumed in my lifetime....


But looking at it, I realized that it cheapened the experiance, made the profound changes, revelations and spiritual growth I endured appear less than they were.

So I deleted it all.

Lets just say that my experiances forged who I am and I believe I shine a little brighter because of them.

But I urge caution to all, such tools can craft a masterpiece or wreck ruin, depending on how they're used and who wields them.
Legless Pirates
04-03-2005, 10:29
I'm not issuing official warnings, yet, but I don't want this to escalate.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Cog is my pal, because he's a pacifist
Cannot think of a name
04-03-2005, 10:39
I started to write something about the countless experiances I've had and the amount of psychedelics I've consumed in my lifetime....


But looking at it, I realized that it cheapened the experiance, made the profound changes, revelations and spiritual growth I endured appear less than they were.

So I deleted it all.

Lets just say that my experiances forged who I am and I believe I shine a little brighter because of them.

But I urge caution to all, such tools can craft a masterpiece or wreck ruin, depending on how they're used and who wields them.
I'm startin' to like this cat more and more. Despite the notable handicap (I believe...I could be mistaken) of being from Sacramento...(I grew up in Folsom and like most, hate the hell out of my hometown...well, love/hate, but wouldn't live there again under any circumstances...)
Kanabia
04-03-2005, 10:39
I have no respect for people who do drugs. They know the implications drugs have on their bodies yet they still do them.

Everything in moderation. Many drugs can be taken with little or no side effects. The person who keeps to themself and smokes marijuana is just as worthy of your respect as any other human being- you are not being harmed by their recreational drug use, and more than likely, neither are they.

Ravea, do you despise people who drink alcohol and smoke tobacco as well? You must really hate a lot of people, then.
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 10:41
I started to write something about the countless experiances I've had and the amount of psychedelics I've consumed in my lifetime....


But looking at it, I realized that it cheapened the experiance, made the profound changes, revelations and spiritual growth I endured appear less than they were.

So I deleted it all.

Lets just say that my experiances forged who I am and I believe I shine a little brighter because of them.

But I urge caution to all, such tools can craft a masterpiece or wreck ruin, depending on how they're used and who wields them.
any hints or tips as to the 'constructive' way of using psyceledelics? after some research into its effects i want to 'open my mind' with lsd, in that way that nobody seems able to describe.
THE LOST PLANET
04-03-2005, 11:02
I'm startin' to like this cat more and more. Despite the notable handicap (I believe...I could be mistaken) of being from Sacramento...(I grew up in Folsom and like most, hate the hell out of my hometown...well, love/hate, but wouldn't live there again under any circumstances...)Well thanks CToaN, You ain't such a bad guy either.

And ya, I got a Sacramento address, we all have our crosses to bear. ;)
THE LOST PLANET
04-03-2005, 11:18
any hints or tips as to the 'constructive' way of using psyceledelics? after some research into its effects i want to 'open my mind' with lsd, in that way that nobody seems able to describe.The drug is only 1/3 of the equation that defines the experiance, without knowledge of the other 2/3, I don't feel comfortable advising on such things. I don't want to seem like I'm blowing you off though. I've elaborated on my knowledge in other threads, you could search past posts and compare what I've written to your research. Read some of Timothy Leary's stuff, or a book called "Programming and Meta-Programming in the Human Bio-Computer" by Masters and Houston if you can find it (sadly, I think it's out of print).

TG me if there's anything specific you want to know.
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 11:22
Read some of Timothy Leary's stuff, or a book called "Programming and Meta-Programming in the Human Bio-Computer" by Masters and Houston if you can find it (sadly, I think it's out of print).
I found it in badly-transcribed HTML here:
http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/metaprogramming_with_lsd_25/full_text.html
I'm still poking around to see if I can find a better version.
THE LOST PLANET
04-03-2005, 11:32
I found it in badly-transcribed HTML here:
http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/metaprogramming_with_lsd_25/full_text.html
I'm still poking around to see if I can find a better version.Way to go Neo! Funny I never thought of looking for it on-line, I guess the fact that most of my experiances in that area were pre-internet and the fact that I had to search for an actual book to read it and other sources of information I gathered sort of clouded the obvious. Thanks!

Oh and Pure Metal, have you ever read any of Robert Anton Wilson's writings? It's fiction but there's a lot of hints in it. Also check his recommended reading list. ;)
New Fuglies
04-03-2005, 11:33
most threads about drugs on here are ususally morality debates or question 'have you ever taken them'? for a change im asking 'what is the most profound experience you have had with drugs'? what is the coolest moment, or the worst?


for me, i smoke weed every day and pretty much always enjoy it (though i have been getting high less easily recently), and haven't tried any more 'exotic' drugs (LSD for eg). so my coolest experience was a hallucination of the wall bulging out towards me after smoking loads :)
worst experience was last year in halls of residence, when security came to tell us we were playing guitar too loud (at like 3am, so completely fair) and they saw the sock over the fire alarm... and the weed. thankfully they turned a blind eye (yay UK reclassificaion!!) but that could have been bad

Best moment: Took way too many shrooms at a party once. Now that was awesome! :D

Worst moment: A bunch of us took LSD one night at a smallish party. A few of the others went out for a walk to enjoy the trip while we stayed behind to get drunk and smoke weed. About half an hour later someone was banging on the door. It was one of the people who left earlier. He was so upset he couldn't speak but he got out Jody and Nadine were hit by a truck and are dead. We thougth he was full of shit til we saw ambulances and police cars racing down the highway. I don't remeber much after that but running to just short of where it happened and I saw two lifeless friends smeared across the asphalt. Thakfully Jody did survive despite very severe injuries but Nadine (15) died on the scene. :(
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 11:38
have you ever read any of Robert Anton Wilson's writings? It's fiction but there's a lot of hints in it. Also check his recommended reading list. ;)
R.A.W.!!
Grr, I can't find my copy of "Quantum Psychology" anywhere...
:(
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 11:48
Worst moment: A bunch of us took LSD one night at a smallish party. A few of the others went out for a walk to enjoy the trip while we stayed behind to get drunk and smoke weed. About half an hour later someone was banging on the door. It was one of the people who left earlier. He was so upset he couldn't speak but he got out Jody and Nadine were hit by a truck and are dead. We thougth he was full of shit til we saw ambulances and police cars racing down the highway. I don't remeber much after that but running to just short of where it happened and I saw two lifeless friends smeared across the asphalt. Thakfully Jody did survive despite very severe injuries but Nadine (15) died on the scene. :(
:eek: omg! thats awful.
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 11:49
I don't want to seem like I'm blowing you off though.
hehehe... i'm so purile :rolleyes:

cheers for all the advice - looks like i have plenty to read :)


one of the main things that convinced me i wanted to take the experience was a program on BBC Radio 4 about LSD, in which i seem to remember they played interviews with Leary. if you fancy a listen, its here...gah its taking ages to upload - ill post the link in a few :)
New Fuglies
04-03-2005, 11:53
:eek: omg! thats awful.

Yeah it totally harshed out my mellow... but seriously it was fucking awful.
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 11:58
Yeah it totally harshed out my mellow... but seriously it was fucking awful.
yeah seriously, thats harsh. i've heard stories like that before - car accidents, drowning, my mate got beaten up pretty bad when he got high and wondered into a chav-infested estate once - and i'm gonna try to be careful in the future.

suppose thats another, practical, reason why its better to 'trip' in the country, near to nature and all that, rather than the city.



THE LOST PLANET: here's that program. i thought it was quite good - about 1/2 an hour long. http://www.hlj.me.uk/lsd.mp3
THE LOST PLANET
04-03-2005, 12:05
THE LOST PLANET: here's that program. i thought it was quite good - about 1/2 an hour long. http://www.hlj.me.uk/lsd.mp3Thanks, I'll give it a listen.

I don't think any place is 'safer' than another, but I do advocate the old school practice of a 'guide' for your first experiance. This person should know you, your surroundings and the drug (please note, I mention 3 things, refer back to my first response ;) )well and remain straight for the duration.
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 12:12
Thanks, I'll give it a listen.

I don't think any place is 'safer' than another, but I do advocate the old school practice of a 'guide' for your first experiance. This person should know you, your surroundings and the drug (please note, I mention 3 things, refer back to my first response ;) )well and remain straight for the duration.
excellent, i'll keep that in mind. before i go for acid i want to try shrooms first tho, so it'll be some time till i try it
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 12:12
http://www.hlj.me.uk/lsd.mp3
The file seems to be broken. It won't play.
:(
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 12:18
The file seems to be broken. It won't play.
:(
it should stream ok (im listening to it now :) ), if not try downloading it maybe - its 16.8 meg.

that said i did have to go to 'open URL' in WMP cos the link didn't play by itself :confused:
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 12:20
it should stream ok (im listening to it now :) ), if not try downloading it maybe - its 16.8 meg.

that said i did have to go to 'open URL' in WMP cos the link didn't play by itself :confused:
Oh, for me, it tries to download automatically, but it works now if I try to stream it through WMP.

Thanks for the tip!
Pure Metal
04-03-2005, 12:23
Oh, for me, it tries to download automatically, but it works now if I try to stream it through WMP.

Thanks for the tip!
np :)
its a good program worth a listen
Neo-Anarchists
04-03-2005, 12:34
np :)
its a good program worth a listen
So far, it gets three pulsating hovering multicolored thumbs up.
Independent Homesteads
04-03-2005, 14:35
accidentally did scag a couple of times - once in some sputnik, which was unnerving but nice. I split one reefer with a mate and went and walked into town, went to the pictures, watched a film (and i have no idea what film it was), came out, walked home, and about an hour later we were saying are you still stoned? me too... weird...

The other time it wasn't that accidental, it was chopped out on a surface in some guy's flat, and i dip-dabbed it without looking too hard, thinking it was speed. contrary to everything i've heard, later that evening i got the biggest, hardest, longest lasting boner of my life.

opium is fun too. Why is it the nicest things that are bad for you?

these days i very occasionally smoke a tiny bit of leaf grass.
Sharazar
04-03-2005, 15:23
Firework display, as viewed from a ditch after copious quantities of weed.

Most beautiful thing i ever saw, and probably ever will.
Jester III
04-03-2005, 15:45
Worst ever was having smoked three joints and being unabele to move. I was very thirsty and coulndt reach out for the water bottle that was some fourty centimeters away, while a two hour show with horrible techno music was running at the tv from which i couldnt avert my eyes. Argh!
Best was having hot, kinky sex all night long being high on speed and coke.
CelebrityFrogs
04-03-2005, 16:15
Most profound experience: taking pure MDMA for the first time. I'd taken pills (E) quite a few times before then, but they are nowhere near as good as the pure stuff. was with a group of 5 other people, 2 of them where amoung my closest friends, 1 was a mate, and the other 2 where people I'd never met before, we all took pure MDMA, and we felt an incredible bond and feeling of love and happiness in each others company, we kept hugging each other, and any worries or fears that sometimes exist between people where completely gone. All six of us that spent that weekend together share a bond to this day, and it brought us all close together!

Worst Experience: went to a party at which I took some pills, and smoked lots of weed. stayed up all night, and left party at 11am. then went straight to the pub, drank all day, went home in the evening, and instead of going straight to bed as I should have done, I decided to do a load of shrooms. It started off OK, but I'd never done that many before, and I ended up getting really paranoid for about 2 hours. I won't be making that mistake again!
Ellegoria
04-03-2005, 21:36
Shit, was that a good idea?
I mean, with something where they couldn't tell as much like amphetamines, I could understand, but shrooms?
Damn!

It was amazing. We (my friends and I) timed it right so we'd be sitting down in a boring class when it really started going kooky. It was a risk, yes, but being smart and already accepted to several universities, school is *really* boring. I gotta amuse myself somehow.
I V Stalin
04-03-2005, 21:42
Never had a bad experience with drugs (don't know how long that'll last), but my best was this:
Took 'shrooms, can't remember how much, but I was off my head for at least 6 hours. Sitting around listening to some ambient music (cliched, I know, but meh) and watching a mate throw fairy dust around the room and flicking the light switch on and off. For 4 hours. Man, that was good.