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Okay, no matter how you feel about the subject of gays or gay marriage, I just want to make one thing clear. When Kinsey did his famous study of human sexuality, ten percent of his male subjects responded that they had had a homosexual experience in the past three years. So there. That's why we keep telling ourselves ten percent of people are gay. Thank to his biased study, rather than the more recent study on human sexuality, with a wider and better sample. According to this study 2 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women responded that they were homosexual.

By the way I'm new to the board. Hello! And since I don't want to offend anyone, cute little sociologist that I am, I agree with whatever position on gay marriage/Iraq/abortion you and only you have. :)

No study is going to accurately tell us how many people are non-heterosexual. Are bisexuals going to identify as gay or hetero? Are asexual people going to identify as gay or hetero? Are transgendered people going to identify as gay or hetero, and how would you define the sexuality of a man who feels female, who is attracted to women? His body is male, so that should make him hetero, but he is attracted to women as a woman, which would make him a lesbian. Where do the intersexed come into this? We don't even know what gender they are, much less how that affects their sexuality.

It's much more complicated than gay or straight anyway.

I think the most important thing to remember is that alternative sexualities and genders exist, and just get over it.

No study is going to accurately tell us how many people are non-heterosexual. Are bisexuals going to identify as gay or hetero? Are asexual people going to identify as gay or hetero? Are transgendered people going to identify as gay or hetero, and how would you define the sexuality of a man who feels female, who is attracted to women? His body is male, so that should make him hetero, but he is attracted to women as a woman, which would make him a lesbian. Where do the intersexed come into this? We don't even know what gender they are, much less how that affects their sexuality.

It's much more complicated than gay or straight anyway.

I think the most important thing to remember is that alternative sexualities and genders exist, and just get over it.


Maybe we should get an even deeper study then.... plus aren't TransGendered and Asexuals, etc. minorities?.... then again Homosexuals are also minorities... hmmmm.

I'm not saying either study is completely accurate and yes there are very complex degrees of human sexuality. It's interesting to see how people manipulate statistics for their argument.

"There are three types of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."-Mark Twain

Okay, no matter how you feel about the subject of gays or gay marriage, I just want to make one thing clear. When Kinsey did his famous study of human sexuality, ten percent of his male subjects responded that they had had a homosexual experience in the past three years. So there. That's why we keep telling ourselves ten percent of people are gay. Thank to his biased study, rather than the more recent study on human sexuality, with a wider and better sample. According to this study 2 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women responded that they were homosexual.

By the way I'm new to the board. Hello! And since I don't want to offend anyone, cute little sociologist that I am, I agree with whatever position on gay marriage/Iraq/abortion you and only you have. :)
So you come here yelling about incorrect facts … make un supported claims and expect them to be taken as facts as well … good job at being hypocritical

I'm not saying either study is completely accurate and yes there are very complex degrees of human sexuality. It's interesting to see how people manipulate statistics for their argument.

"There are three types of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."-Mark Twain
Get me the stats and I can do confidence level and fit curves for all the data if you wish (even do regression analysis if you so choose)

I'm sure that at least 10 of them are gay. Maybe even 50. But probably no more than 10%.

http://www.ci.decatur.il.us/Eng_Infra/stopsign.gif

So you come here yelling about incorrect facts … make un supported claims and expect them to be taken as facts as well … good job at being hypocritical


I think what she was trying to say is that, although 10% of men/women have had a homosexual thought, only 2%/1.4 of men/women are actually gay.

Although the study doesn't take into account Gender Confused people.

I think what she was trying to say is that, although 10% of men/women have had a homosexual thought, only 2%/1.4 of men/women are actually gay.

Although the study doesn't take into account Gender Confused people.

maybe she's saying that although everybody says 10% of people are gay, the actual number of people who are actually gay doesn't add up to 10% of the population. Possibly.

Thank to his biased study, rather than the more recent study on human sexuality, with a wider and better sample.
How about a source, so that we may relate? "The" more recent study isnt goint to help anyone here, does it have a name, can i read up on it, who sponsored it, who did it etc.

who said there were 10 gay men and women? :confused:

I think what she was trying to say is that, although 10% of men/women have had a homosexual thought, only 2%/1.4 of men/women are actually gay.

Although the study doesn't take into account Gender Confused people.
He/she also did not provide the survey he/she came on and essentially said “this study is wrong cause I said it is … I say it is [insert arbitrary number here]%”

We need data … how do we know to trust his numbers any more then the original (which I would not have without the original data as well)
Not only that but we dont have Confidence levels for the survey nor fit of curve for either of them (they let you know how well the percentages fit actual data)

It may be just me, but the percentage of gays here on NS seems to be a little too high. Maybe this is secretly a homosexual website?

Don't get me started on the percentage of "gender confused" on here!

It may be just me, but the percentage of gays here on NS seems to be a little too high. Maybe this is secretly a homosexual website?

Don't get me started on the percentage of "gender confused" on here!
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

It may be just me, but the percentage of gays here on NS seems to be a little too high. Maybe this is secretly a homosexual website?

Don't get me started on the percentage of "gender confused" on here!
*refrains from obvious joke*

Sexuality looks like this:

Gay - - - - - - - - - - Bi - - - - - - - - - - Straight

It ain't a black-and-white thing. Put your marker wherever you see fit.

Okay, no matter how you feel about the subject of gays or gay marriage, I just want to make one thing clear. When Kinsey did his famous study of human sexuality, ten percent of his male subjects responded that they had had a homosexual experience in the past three years. So there. That's why we keep telling ourselves ten percent of people are gay. Thank to his biased study, rather than the more recent study on human sexuality, with a wider and better sample. According to this study 2 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women responded that they were homosexual.

By the way I'm new to the board. Hello! And since I don't want to offend anyone, cute little sociologist that I am, I agree with whatever position on gay marriage/Iraq/abortion you and only you have. :)
kinsey actually understood that his study was biased because of the difficulty in getting people in the 50s to answer such a survey. he realized it skewed toward those most sexually active and open.

more broadly representative studies still have the problem of participant honesty. people still tend to answer surveys either as they wish they were or as they believe the surveyer wishes them to answer so the newer study may not be entirely accurate either.

I'm not saying either study is completely accurate and yes there are very complex degrees of human sexuality. It's interesting to see how people manipulate statistics for their argument.

"There are three types of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."-Mark Twain
There are three types of bad quotes: misquotes, incorrect attributions and misquotes incorrectly attributed to Mark Twain.

There are three types of bad quotes: misquotes, incorrect attributions and misquotes incorrectly attributed to Mark Twain.
Lol did not even check on the quote lol

A quote from the relevant section of my opus (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393831), wherein it was proven true that, when you disagree with the basis of a question you have a personal interest in, you're tending to prove someone's point.

Ex 1, using the "Vino Veritas" standard- While 8% of folk in my dormitory consider themselves homosexual, about 30%, under the influence, have absolutely no interest in the other gender. When forced to recall the past night, the most common response is "Dude, no way. He fell down the stairs. I'm hard just looking at that chick that says I blew her off last night," followed closely by "my family/friends/quasi-significant other would never talk to me again."editted for grammar.

Or, outside sources which are actuall citable...
Of the general population, only 2.1% of men and 1.6% of women consider themselves to be homosexual. However, 12% admit to having had "primarily homosexual encounters" over the past three years, and 35% admit to having had at least one homosexual experience.

"Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." - Dorothy Parker

No study is going to accurately tell us how many people are non-heterosexual. Are bisexuals going to identify as gay or hetero? Are asexual people going to identify as gay or hetero? Are transgendered people going to identify as gay or hetero, and how would you define the sexuality of a man who feels female, who is attracted to women? His body is male, so that should make him hetero, but he is attracted to women as a woman, which would make him a lesbian. Where do the intersexed come into this? We don't even know what gender they are, much less how that affects their sexuality.

It's much more complicated than gay or straight anyway.

I think the most important thing to remember is that alternative sexualities and genders exist, and just get over it.

asexual? your PC ishness is getting a little wacky

asexual? your PC ishness is getting a little wacky
"PC-ishness"?
Asexuals are people who aren't attracted to either gender. What would you propose to call them?

According to this study 2 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women responded that they were homosexual.

Ok n00b, I'll go along with you. Let's say that there are about 150 million American men and 150 million American women. 2 percent of 150 million is 3 million. So that's 3 million homosexual men. 1.4% of 150 million is 2.1 million. So combined, there are more than 5 million homosexuals, according to this survey. Other surveys have said many more people are homosexual. In any case, 5 million people is still a large bloc of people. You lose, n00b.

It may be just me, but the percentage of gays here on NS seems to be a little too high. Maybe this is secretly a homosexual website?

Don't get me started on the percentage of "gender confused" on here!
OH NOES! He has discovered our terrible secret, that this is in fact the hub of the gay world, in which we secretely kidnap and indoctrinate innocent NS-ers, turning them into evil drones that do our evil but stylish bidding.

In other news: Stop spreading the lie that statistics can ever be accurate or that you can ever be truly right on any subject.

"PC-ishness"?
Asexuals are people who aren't attracted to either gender. What would you propose to call them?


i dunno enuchs? what are they one in a thousand? :rolleyes:

i dunno enuchs?
Eunuchs:
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuchs)
A eunuch is a castrated human male. The castration can be only of the testes, or also include the penis, known as a penectomy (often with a tube inserted to keep the urethra open, called a urethral rerouting). The practice was established before 700 BC and accounts of eunuchs are known throughout history.

The English word eunuch is from the Greek eune ("bed") and ekhein ("to keep"), effectively "bed keeper." This indicates the traditional role of the eunuch—as a reliable keeper of a ruler's harem. Other servants or slaves were also castrated in order to make them 'safer,' either in childhood or later.

Eunuchs were also valued and trained in several cultures (especially the Catholic Church), for their exceptional voices, which retained a childlike and other-worldly flexibility and pitch. Such eunuchs were known as castrati.
Asexuals are of either gender, and still have their genitals. So no, they definately aren't eunuchs.
what are they one in a thousand? :rolleyes:
Huh? What's that got to do with anything?

Naw, he just likes to follow me around and try to deflate my ego. Doesn't work though..I'm still puffed up with my PC-ishness. :D

Okay, no matter how you feel about the subject of gays or gay marriage, I just want to make one thing clear. When Kinsey did his famous study of human sexuality, ten percent of his male subjects responded that they had had a homosexual experience in the past three years. So there. That's why we keep telling ourselves ten percent of people are gay. Thank to his biased study, rather than the more recent study on human sexuality, with a wider and better sample. According to this study 2 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women responded that they were homosexual.



What ya fail to understand is sexual orientation is NOT one or the other. The Kinsey study categorized homosexuals by 6 factors, ranging from bi-curious to the exclusive level 6 homosexual. There has been at least one more recent blind study in genetics which supports Kinsey and found the percentage to be closer to 11%. So there.

Eunuchs:
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuchs)

Asexuals are of either gender, and still have their genitals. So no, they definately aren't eunuchs.

Huh? What's that got to do with anything?

dude i knew what a eunuch was :rolleyes:

why would you include such a small minority of peops in your gay rights rant?

who said there were 10 gay men and women? :confused:
And the real problem is that it's 7 men and 3 women.

dude i knew what a eunuch was :rolleyes:

why would you include such a small minority of peops in your gay rights rant?
*reads back over the posts*...gay rights rant? Where exactly?

You brought up eunuchs and suggested they were the same as asexuals, which they are not. You are the one who said that I was simply being PC by bringing up asexuals. Who cares if they are a minority? So are gay people, and yet this thread is all about sexuality. So...

*reads back over the posts*...gay rights rant? Where exactly?

You brought up eunuchs and suggested they were the same as asexuals, which they are not. You are the one who said that I was simply being PC by bringing up asexuals. Who cares if they are a minority? So are gay people, and yet this thread is all about sexuality. So...
I think that while he's referring to people who are born without genitals you're talking about people who have no interest in sex whatsoever.

What about people who are born with both sets of genitals? Don't they have the right to marry two people, one of each sex?

Hey. I heard one in four NSers were gayzors.

I think that while he's referring to people who are born without genitals you're talking about people who have no interest in sex whatsoever.
What he was doing is exactly what Sinuhue said. He said Sinuhue was being all PC-ish by calling asexuals asexual, and suggested we call them eunuchs. But they are not eunuchs.

OH NOES! He has discovered our terrible secret, that this is in fact the hub of the gay world, in which we secretely kidnap and indoctrinate innocent NS-ers, turning them into evil drones that do our evil but stylish bidding.

In other news: Stop spreading the lie that statistics can ever be accurate or that you can ever be truly right on any subject.
Oh crap! *tries to run* *is tackled* *is taken away to the "indoctrination station"*

What he was doing is exactly what Sinuhue said. He said Sinuhue was being all PC-ish by calling asexuals asexual, and suggested we call them eunuchs. But they are not eunuchs.


good grief sematics. what percentage of peops are "asexual" naturally? 0.000001 %? Thats what i thought was silly is all...

good grief sematics. what percentage of peops are "asexual" naturally? 0.000001 %? Thats what i thought was silly is all...
And you say that based on what knowledge of the facts?

Im thining none, a big fat unknowledgable none there.

good grief sematics. what percentage of peops are "asexual" naturally? 0.000001 %? Thats what i thought was silly is all...
so because theyre a tiny minority they dont matter?

good grief sematics. what percentage of peops are "asexual" naturally? 0.000001 %? Thats what i thought was silly is all...
A UK survey of sexuality included a question on sexual attraction, and 1% of respondents replied that they had "never felt sexually attracted to anyone at all." The Kinsey Institute conducted a small survey on the topic, which concluded that "asexuals appear to be better characterized by low sexual desire and sexual excitation than by low levels of sexual behavior or high sexual inhibition." That study also mentions a conflict regarding the definition of "asexual": the researchers found four different definitions in the literature, and stated that it was unclear whether those identifying as asexual were referring to an orientation.
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual)

Google and Wikipedia are your friends.

good grief sematics. what percentage of peops are "asexual" naturally? 0.000001 %? Thats what i thought was silly is all...
Well, I have to support this a little bit. Not because they're a tiny minority, and they certainly have rights, but what are they going to demand? Good TV on Saturday nights?

Well, I have to support this a little bit. Not because they're a tiny minority, and they certainly have rights, but what are they going to demand? Good TV on Saturday nights?
:D
That was a good one!

Look, no offense JaytheWise, but if you don't want to talk about a topic, why talk about the topic? Homosexuals are a minority too, but they don't encompass the whole spectrum of non-hetero sexuality. That is the point of bringing up asexuals.

The same goes with gender...more exists than just simple male and female.

Well, I have to support this a little bit. Not because they're a tiny minority, and they certainly have rights, but what are they going to demand? Good TV on Saturday nights?
Na...we hetero, single-sexed folk don't even expect THAT!

so because theyre a tiny minority they dont matter?


no they dont :sniper:

no they dont :sniper:
To you. I'm sure they matter to themselves. And hey, they even matter to me. They matter to this discussion...

Are you going to add something that matters to this discussion?

Okay, no matter how you feel about the subject of gays or gay marriage, I just want to make one thing clear. When Kinsey did his famous study of human sexuality, ten percent of his male subjects responded that they had had a homosexual experience in the past three years. So there. That's why we keep telling ourselves ten percent of people are gay. Thank to his biased study, rather than the more recent study on human sexuality, with a wider and better sample. According to this study 2 percent of men and 1.4 percent of women responded that they were homosexual.

By the way I'm new to the board. Hello! And since I don't want to offend anyone, cute little sociologist that I am, I agree with whatever position on gay marriage/Iraq/abortion you and only you have. :)

Very nice statistics my friend. But, don't always agree with people all the time, have your own thoughts and feelings. That said, welcome to the boards, a wise choice indeed

The funny thing about this thread is everyone is so up in arms about gays rights and ready to do battle that you get jumped all over when someone states that defending the tiny minorities with such gusto is a little silly.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks

To you. I'm sure they matter to themselves. And hey, they even matter to me. They matter to this discussion...

Are you going to add something that matters to this discussion?

umm being sarcastic dear

The funny thing about this thread is everyone is so up in arms about gays rights and ready to do battle that you get jumped all over when someone states that defending the tiny minorities with such gusto is a little silly.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks
oh no, never

The funny thing about this thread is everyone is so up in arms about gays rights and ready to do battle that you get jumped all over when someone states that defending the tiny minorities with such gusto is a little silly.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks
I have. I think we have a few here too. (NA?)

The funny thing about this thread is everyone is so up in arms about gays rights and ready to do battle that you get jumped all over when someone states that defending the tiny minorities with such gusto is a little silly.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks
Yes, Yes and no i have never met a eunuch to my knowledge, but who knows.
I and the rest of the fine people wernt being politically correct merely using the correct terms to identify different and distinct groups of people. You are being silly and making yourself look stupid i suggest you stop now before more damage is done.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks
Yes, and some of the people on NS fit into those categories...if you stick around, you'll get to know them. My brother is transgendered by the way...and I have an intersexed friend from high school...

Yes, Yes and no i have never met a eunuch to my knowledge, but who knows.
I and the rest of the fine people wernt being politically correct merely using the correct terms to identify different and distinct groups of people. You are being silly and making yourself look stupid i suggest you stop now before more damage is done.


oh BS, lol, whatever :rolleyes:

You get super duper PC points then!

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual?I am a transsexual. I know two asexuals. What's your point with the "there aren't many" thing?
:rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks
High horse? I don't see a high horse anywhere. What is so "PC high horse" about this? Would you care to define "PC" for us?

And please refrain from insulting people, as it is against forum rules. Of course, I'm not a mod, so you can simply ignore me if you wish.

[QUOTE=Sinuhue]Yes, and some of the people on NS fit into those categories...if you stick around, you'll get to know them.[/QUOTE}

or so they say i guess, it is a RP forum, lol

And i have been around, this is jayastan

oh BS, lol, whatever :rolleyes:

You get super duper PC points then!
Err... thats nice dear.

You can sit down now.

umm being sarcastic dear
Hard to tell that since your other posts seem to back up your statement...so perhaps you mean you were exaggerating, rather than you were being sarcastic?

oh no, never
HAAHHAHAHHAHAA...he's not going to get that Nadkor...unless he's Jaystan with a new name...

[QUOTE=Sinuhue]Yes, and some of the people on NS fit into those categories...if you stick around, you'll get to know them.[/QUOTE}

or so they say i guess, it is a RP forum, lol

And i have been around, this is jayastan
No i think you'll find there are transexuals and asexuals on the NS forums, and i should think its pretty insulting to suggest that they are in some way faking for some reason.

HAAHHAHAHHAHAA...he's not going to get that Nadkor...unless he's Jaystan with a new name...
then hes just going to have to think about it for a while ;)

[QUOTE=Sinuhue]Yes, and some of the people on NS fit into those categories...if you stick around, you'll get to know them.[/QUOTE}

or so they say i guess, it is a RP forum, lol

And i have been around, this is jayastan
I thought so...I just clued in when I saw you post in another thread:)

So you KNOW.

What are you arguing about then?

The funny thing about this thread is everyone is so up in arms about gays rights and ready to do battle that you get jumped all over when someone states that defending the tiny minorities with such gusto is a little silly.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks

Hi, asexual/nonsexual here. And where in the world does political correctness factor in there? I mean, it's a fact that transexuals and nonsexuals exist... sooo... eh?

HAAHHAHAHHAHAA...he's not going to get that Nadkor...unless he's Jaystan with a new name...

or so they say i guess, it is a RP forum, lol

And i have been around, this is jayastan
Jaythewise says he is Jayastan a few posts back.

then hes just going to have to think about it for a while ;)


hmmm i always thought u were RPing

It may be just me, but the percentage of gays here on NS seems to be a little too high. Maybe this is secretly a homosexual website?
Maybe you're just extremely sensitive to it. We know what you like, that is, Fred Phelps!

hmmm i always thought u were RPing
if only

Jaythewise says he is Jayastan a few posts back.
I caught on earlier...but posted after he did I guess:) Mystery cleared up! My fellow red-neck Albertan is back! :fluffle:

hmmm i always thought u were RPing
Just to let you know...a lot of us here NEVER RP...we're just on general making nuisances of ourselves. Ok, maybe not a lot, but some...a minority you could say :D

Just to let you know...a lot of us here NEVER RP...we're just on general making nuisances of ourselves. Ok, maybe not a lot, but some...a minority you could say :D
And some of us spend too much time in the general forums to get round to RP-ing despite our best intentions :P.

Maybe you're just extremely sensitive to it. We know what you like, that is, Fred Phelps!

that a little over the top dude, that Phelps guys would make a excellent nazi.

ERm.. forgot to add my point (from post #21 of this thread)- "The plural of anecdote is not data."

Your (partially) cited statistics say that about 2% of people admit to thinking of themselves as homosexual. Mine suggest that about 12% admit to being sexually homosexual, and agree with yours that about 2% admit to thinking of themselves as homosexuals. My (uncited) statistics, supported by Thio's, suggest that about 1/3rd the population has bi-sexual or homosexual leanings.

We're making statistics from collections of heresay, meaning we really don't know anything. Since my sample size is about half of Kinsey's, but 40 years fresher, I'd call them about equally accurate- AKA half bull. But, all of our statistics (Kinsey/your's, Mine, and Thio's) agree that about 10% of people admit to being homosexual, but only about 1/6th think of themselves as gay. Meaning, prolly a bit more than 10% are. But we have no way of knowing even reasonably well.

ERm.. forgot to add my point (from post #21 of this thread)- "The plural of anecdote is not data."

Your (partially) cited statistics say that about 2% of people admit to thinking of themselves as homosexual. Mine suggest that about 12% admit to being sexually homosexual, and agree with yours that about 2% admit to thinking of themselves as homosexuals. My (uncited) statistics, supported by Thio's, suggest that about 1/3rd the population has bi-sexual or homosexual leanings.

We're making statistics from collections of heresay, meaning we really don't know anything. Since my sample size is about half of Kinsey's, but 40 years fresher, I'd call them about equally accurate- AKA half bull. But, all of our statistics (Kinsey/your's, Mine, and Thio's) agree that about 10% of people admit to being homosexual, but only about 1/6th think of themselves as gay. Meaning, prolly a bit more than 10% are. But we have no way of knowing even reasonably well.


clearly only about 0.001% of people are gay. I have met about 2000 people to whom i can concur are not gay and about 2 are VERY gay. Therefore, 0.001% are gay. This is clearly very scientific and we can extend this to the entire spectrum of society.

Who knows? I'd heard that something like 4% were *just* homosexual... no idea what the "other non-heterosexual" would amount to percentaage-wise

clearly only about 0.001% of people are gay. I have met about 2000 people to whom i can concur are not gay and about 2 are VERY gay. Therefore, 0.001% are gay. This is clearly very scientific and we can extend this to the entire spectrum of society.

Plus I'm sure anyone you know would immediately admit to being gay when they're around you. I'm sure you come across as as much an open-minded and tolerant lad in real life as you do here.

ERm.. forgot to add my point (from post #21 of this thread)- "The plural of anecdote is not data."

Your (partially) cited statistics say that about 2% of people admit to thinking of themselves as homosexual. Mine suggest that about 12% admit to being sexually homosexual, and agree with yours that about 2% admit to thinking of themselves as homosexuals. My (uncited) statistics, supported by Thio's, suggest that about 1/3rd the population has bi-sexual or homosexual leanings.

Reminds me of the old "Savage Love" letter. "I'm not gay, I just like to suck dick sometimes."

Plus I'm sure anyone you know would immediately admit to being gay when they're around you. I'm sure you come across as as much an open-minded and tolerant lad in real life as you do here.


carefully weigh your words and reread my post

Maybe you're just extremely sensitive to it. We know what you like, that is, Fred Phelps!

No, actually having worked in the adult film world, and having been a PI for the past 20 years, it is rather easy to tell when someone is gay. I've had alot of cases over the years where a spouse thought they were being cheated on, but I saw signs that proved they were gay, and infact they were. So my ability to deduct someones sexuality is unimpeachable.

Phelps is cool though, as I enjoy how he angers the gays.

All that matters is that gay people are all going to hell, so stop making posts about gay people, because no one likes them, so watch what happens to the gay smiley faces.

:fluffle: :mp5:

http://img233.exs.cx/img233/5328/threadmap8wf.png

:fluffle: I like them. I like you too. :fluffle:

All that matters is that gay people are all going to hell, so stop making posts about gay people, because no one likes them, so watch what happens to the gay smiley faces.

:fluffle: :mp5:

We used to beat up other kids who were gay. We also used to tie them up to posts, and just beating the living gayness out of them.

We used to beat up other kids who were gay. We also used to tie them up to posts, and just beating the living gayness out of them.


sounds like after they were done, a couple would say behind and have some fun hey bud?

Wheres dat boy with the toe playin banjo??

This is clearly very scientific
We're making statistics from collections of heresay, meaning we really don't know anything.
I knew bookmarking this one (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8219023&postcount=15) would pay off...
It's easier to completely separate invincible ignorance from civilized society than to try and fight it.SHUN


(Not really. I've just always wanted an excuse to write "Shun" in really, really big letters & highlight it. The only serious part is pointing out a concept which you might have missed, despite it being written four times in the post you quoted and being very clearly the entire point of it.)

Reminds me of the old "Savage Love" letter. "I'm not gay, I just like to suck dick sometimes."
Or the Onion piece, "Why do all these gay guys keep putting thier dicks in my mouth?"

We used to beat up other kids who were gay. We also used to tie them up to posts, and just beating the living gayness out of them.
Wow. That sounds incredibly gay. Bondage and masturbating, you're a kinky cat.

clearly only about 0.001% of people are gay. I have met about 2000 people to whom i can concur are not gay and about 2 are VERY gay. Therefore, 0.001% are gay. This is clearly very scientific and we can extend this to the entire spectrum of society.
I imagine now you holding guns to guys heads like a drug dealer who thinks someones a cop, "If you don't touch that breast, we have a problem..."

You must be a little intense to hang out with-specially with your 'Nobody gets to bitch but me' policy...

clearly only about 0.001% of people are gay. I have met about 2000 people to whom i can concur are not gay and about 2 are VERY gay. Therefore, 0.001% are gay. This is clearly very scientific and we can extend this to the entire spectrum of society.
Check your math! That's actually 0.1% who are gay. You are wrong one-hundred-fold! What keeps you from being wrong another 100-fold?

And besides, what about people like me who have plenty of interest in the opposite sex, but the opposite sex simply has no interest in us? :-(

Check your math! That's actually 0.1% who are gay. You are wrong one-hundred-fold! What keeps you from being wrong another 100-fold?

And besides, what about people like me who have plenty of interest in the opposite sex, but the opposite sex simply has no interest in us? :-(
Or that shady line where hot chicks are hot, but the person [hmm] can't be bothered to do anything about it.

I knew bookmarking this one (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8219023&postcount=15) would pay off...
SHUN


(Not really. I've just always wanted an excuse to write "Shun" in really, really big letters & highlight it. The only serious part is pointing out a concept which you might have missed, despite it being written four times in the post you quoted and being very clearly the entire point of it.)

what are people complete fucking idiots? That post was supposed to be funny, of course its not proof to base your ideas on your actual life experiences lol

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Quoted for emphisis.

what are people complete fucking idiots? That post was supposed to be funny, of course its not proof to base your ideas on your actual life experiences lol
I just really, really wanted an excuse to write "shun" in really, really big letters and highlight it. Alright?


Trust me. It's fun. Shun me & try it out for yourself.

The funny thing about this thread is everyone is so up in arms about gays rights and ready to do battle that you get jumped all over when someone states that defending the tiny minorities with such gusto is a little silly.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks

Explain to me why defending someone's rights is silly. I think everyone should have them. Do I have to be part of a particuliar group to care about their rights? I'm not a child and I care about their rights. I'm not black and I care about their rights. And I feel quite happy to defend the rights of others with gusto. Hopefully when my rights are in danger they'll return the favor.

I have met plenty of transexuals, more than I have managed to keep track of. Perhaps your circle of acquaintences is somewhat narrow.

Exactly what's so PC about being accurate? If I say I'm 6'2" and I'm only 5'7" that is inaccurate. Correcting that isn't PC.

The funny thing about this thread is everyone is so up in arms about gays rights and ready to do battle that you get jumped all over when someone states that defending the tiny minorities with such gusto is a little silly.

i mean have any of you peops ever met a transexual, asexual or no sexual? :rolleyes: Get off your Pc high horse dorks

Yup. Slept with a few transgendered folks. Yummy.

"Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common." - Dorothy Parker

Wow, great quote!

I live in Vermont and many of you know that my state was the first to legalize civil unions.

I have met literally thousands of people in this state, yet I only personally know 10 people who are gay and another 5 who claim to have had a bisexual experience.

If this proportion is true in the most liberal state in the nation, then how much more true is it in the other 49 more "conservative" states?

I live in Vermont and many of you know that my state was the first to legalize civil unions.

I have met literally thousands of people in this state, yet I only personally know 10 people who are gay and another 5 who claim to have had a bisexual experience.

If this proportion is true in the most liberal state in the nation, then how much more true is it in the other 49 more "conservative" states?
Ive met loads of people and a substantial number of them have been gay or bi or something entirely different and slightly worrying :P (i love you all). it all depends on what crowd you run with.

Or the Onion piece, "Why do all these gay guys keep putting thier dicks in my mouth?"
I. LOVE. THAT. ARTICLE.

Ive met loads of people and a substantial number of them have been gay or bi or something entirely different and slightly worrying :P (i love you all). it all depends on what crowd you run with.
Pretty much.

Living in the San Francisco bay area and working in live theater I've met a crazy number of sexual orientations. If we where going on ancedotal evidence I'd have to say the world is a very gay place.

Pretty much.

Living in the San Francisco bay area and working in live theater I've met a crazy number of sexual orientations. If we where going on ancedotal evidence I'd have to say the world is a very gay place.
It seems that way to me at least :D.

That's true I forgot San Francisco... deep on the heart of the Land of Fruits and Nuts ;-)

Or the Onion piece, "Why do all these gay guys keep putting thier dicks in my mouth?"Or if you remembered the actual title it would be, Why Do All These Gay Guys Keep Sucking My Cock?