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Are Men Naturally Better Than Women?

Vittos Ordination
01-03-2005, 08:20
I didn't think the other thread went far enough, what do you think?
Hammolopolis
01-03-2005, 08:21
I can pee standing up. I win.
Preebles
01-03-2005, 08:22
*slaps VO across the face*


That's what I think. :D
Vittos Ordination
01-03-2005, 08:25
*slaps VO across the face*


That's what I think. :D

*returns slap*

I can even slap better than you. ;)
Sdaeriji
01-03-2005, 08:27
Women have to give birth. They definately caught the wrong end of that deal.
Kanabia
01-03-2005, 08:28
They definately caught the wrong end of that deal.

Pun intended? :D
Hammolopolis
01-03-2005, 08:28
Women have to give birth. They definately caught the wrong end of that deal.
Yeah, and any time they aren't pregnant they are having periods. I don't trust anything that bleeds for three days and doesn't die.
Vittos Ordination
01-03-2005, 08:29
Yeah, and any time they aren't pregnant they are having periods. I don't trust anything that bleeds for three days and doesn't die.

I don't trust vaginas, either.
Sdaeriji
01-03-2005, 08:32
Pun intended? :D

I ALWAYS intend. :D
Preebles
01-03-2005, 08:32
Yeah, and any time they aren't pregnant they are having periods. I don't trust anything that bleeds for three days and doesn't die.
More like 3-7 days...

And a student in my year at uni just had a baby. We asked her how the delivery was and all she said was "painful." :( *worried*
Emperor Salamander VII
01-03-2005, 08:36
In the debate over which gender is superior to the other, there is one thing I'd like to point out.

Women have boobies. Boobies rule, ergo women are superior.
AnarchyeL
01-03-2005, 08:38
I can pee standing up. I win.

Yeah, but why bother? I find it relaxing to just sit down and do my business, whatever it may be. I don't have to worry about aim, I don't have to worry about a "surprise" need for Number 2... It's very nice.
[NS]Ein Deutscher
01-03-2005, 08:39
I don't care about boobies. :p
Hammolopolis
01-03-2005, 08:39
Yeah, but why bother? I find it relaxing to just sit down and do my business, whatever it may be. I don't have to worry about aim, I don't have to worry about a "surprise" need for Number 2... It's very nice.
Yeah, well mine isn't afraid of yeast. I still win.
New Shiron
01-03-2005, 08:43
looking around for the lynch mob.... hmm, not here yet...

I agree with the peeing standing up thing... plus men don't get cramps, retain fluid, and have to deal with that bleeding thing...

sounds like we win

although in spite of that, women still outlive us... how is that fair or possible?
THE LOST PLANET
01-03-2005, 08:44
Forget the arguements about which gender is stronger/smarter/logical.

Females have a lock on all the majick.

Just look at the asses we men make of ourselves chasing them, trying to capture just a little of that.





We're not better, we're not even as good.
Greedy Pig
01-03-2005, 08:46
Yeah.. Men are naturally better than women. We have opposable thumbs!! Hah! you can't beat that!
Drunk Scotsman
01-03-2005, 08:49
Yeah, and any time they aren't pregnant they are having periods. I don't trust anything that bleeds for three days and doesn't die.

yeah but we've got to put up with you durin those three days
Domici
01-03-2005, 08:57
looking around for the lynch mob.... hmm, not here yet...

I agree with the peeing standing up thing... plus men don't get cramps, retain fluid, and have to deal with that bleeding thing...

sounds like we win

although in spite of that, women still outlive us... how is that fair or possible?

Ah, but we can overcome that somewhat by marrying women. Married men live longer, married women die sooner.
THE LOST PLANET
01-03-2005, 09:00
Ah, but we can overcome that somewhat by marrying women. Married men live longer, married women die sooner. :eek: Does that mean married men suck the life out of their wives?
Robbopolis
01-03-2005, 09:06
Women have to give birth. They definately caught the wrong end of that deal.

But it's unskilled labor. :D

*runs for the hills*
Windly Queef
01-03-2005, 09:42
No insult to the ladies. But most men are physically superior to you. Other than that,...their brain tends to work differently. Women usually tend to use the right side of their brain, while men use the left side of their brain. The right side is more emotional, while the left is more logical.

I've not come to a conclusion as to whether I think women are capable of maintain the same dexeterity as men, under extreme conditions. I'm refering to men and women in war. I've received opinions e.g they seem to be a burden, as they don't keep up. But they're opinions or just subjective incidents, I suppose.

If a woman want to live up to the same standards of a man in the military, then so be it [unfortantely this is not the case]. You better fight well, because I'm not paying you because you have a 'right' to be there. American defenders must be good, and if you can't keep up, then you'll inherit that bullet and cause your fellow soldier to die. But to those women hold their own...good going...only you deserve to be there.
Harlesburg
01-03-2005, 09:48
I don't trust vaginas, either.
Why because of the Teeth?
Harlesburg
01-03-2005, 09:49
But it's unskilled labor. :D

*runs for the hills*
Starts playing Iron Maiden. :p
Harlesburg
01-03-2005, 09:50
More like 3-7 days...

And a student in my year at uni just had a baby. We asked her how the delivery was and all she said was "painful." :( *worried*
I thought they just cut them out these days? :eek:
Windly Queef
01-03-2005, 09:53
Just look at the asses we men make of ourselves chasing them, trying to capture just a little of that.


I only did that as a youngster. With the right career and right life,...women act the ass over you. Because they love you for who YOU are.
Windly Queef
01-03-2005, 09:55
Why because of the Teeth?

the vagina circled him and opened it's lips to reveal it's big TEETH...
Harlesburg
01-03-2005, 10:05
the vagina circled him and opened it's lips to reveal it's big TEETH...
Whos eating who here? :confused:
Kanabia
01-03-2005, 10:13
the vagina circled him and opened it's lips to reveal it's big TEETH...

Vagina Dentata, hey?
Emperor Salamander VII
01-03-2005, 10:28
No insult to the ladies. But most men are physically superior to you. Other than that,...their brain tends to work differently. Women usually tend to use the right side of their brain, while men use the left side of their brain. The right side is more emotional, while the left is more logical.

I've not come to a conclusion as to whether I think women are capable of maintain the same dexeterity as men, under extreme conditions. I'm refering to men and women in war. I've received opinions e.g they seem to be a burden, as they don't keep up. But they're opinions or just subjective incidents, I suppose.

If a woman want to live up to the same standards of a man in the military, then so be it [unfortantely this is not the case]. You better fight well, because I'm not paying you because you have a 'right' to be there. American defenders must be good, and if you can't keep up, then you'll inherit that bullet and cause your fellow soldier to die. But to those women hold their own...good going...only you deserve to be there.

Actually, I knew a guy in the army who said he didn't have any issues with women in the army he just didn't want any to be in his combat unit. His opinion was nothing to do with women being unable to cope with combat or being less able in any way but it certainly was everything to do with his fear that the other men in his unit would start doing stupid things to either impress her or take stupid risks to help her in a combat situation.

So basically he didn't want a woman in his unit because the MEN would start acting like asshats.
Monkeypimp
01-03-2005, 11:20
I thought they just cut them out these days? :eek:


Hummer week?
Harlesburg
01-03-2005, 11:29
Hummer week?
GAh?
Monkeypimp
01-03-2005, 11:33
GAh?


Well you can't have sex, so its errrr hummer week. So I hear.
Preebles
01-03-2005, 11:34
Now I'm just afraid... :p
Bitchkitten
01-03-2005, 11:41
Ya'll are funny. I have the best of all possible worlds. I think like a man in some cases, like a woman in others. I throw out the dumbass machismo of guys and the domestic side of a woman. I have a womans body and get to molest men. I can't think of anyway to improve things unless one of you will take my periods. :p
Helioterra
01-03-2005, 12:24
No insult to the ladies. But most men are physically superior to you. Other than that,...their brain tends to work differently. Women usually tend to use the right side of their brain, while men use the left side of their brain. The right side is more emotional, while the left is more logical.


Insulted? That would be utterly stupid. Of course most men are physically superior to me. I don't think that makes me a lesser person. My strength has always been enough for me.

Brains work differently but I wouldn't say that one is better than the other. We need both sides of our brains.
Helioterra
01-03-2005, 12:29
But it's unskilled labor. :D

*runs for the hills*
We knew that mankind would die out if men had to give birth.
Bottle
01-03-2005, 12:48
No insult to the ladies. But most men are physically superior to you. Other than that,...their brain tends to work differently. Women usually tend to use the right side of their brain, while men use the left side of their brain. The right side is more emotional, while the left is more logical.

first of all, the "right side=emotional, left=logical" model went out the window a long time ago...there may be tendencies for biased hemispheric involvement in many tasks, but to break down complex functions like emotion and logic in this simplistic manner is (no offense) very very silly.

second of all, males have repeatedly been shown to demonstrate less ability to regulate their emotions than females. though our stereotypes insist women are the emotive sex, research does not bear that out.

but, perhaps most important, the difference between male and female hemispheric use is that females INTEGRATE to a degree that men do not. it's not a matter of "women use one side, men use the other," it's a matter of "women use both sides, men use one side." this is thought to be at least partially responsible for increased verbal abilities in women, since they may process a given task using more "perspectives" than a man, and may need more complex communication skills to share those perceptions with others.


i want to be very clear: there certainly ARE areas in which the female brain tends to be out-performed by the male brain. there are also areas in which the reverse is true. i just can't stand people trying to use science to support the "emotional women" stereotype, because it is one stereotype that simply doesn't hold up in research. it's also one of the biggest problems i have with women, since they seem to really like using their periods or their "female brains" as an excuse to be emotional, selfish, irrational, and helpless. they like to insist that they're female and can't help it, when the simple fact is that they can help it MORE than men, and they are CHOOSING not to.
Saiyevn
01-03-2005, 12:53
Quite true. Men overreact far more than women ever do, which is why perhaps men commit more violent murders than women becuase they're more easily provoked. But I'm amused that most women think that they're more emotional than men and use that fact to cover for their weaknesses. I've seen very few females who do act strong and sometimes act stronger than males.
Sthyxia
01-03-2005, 12:55
Different does not equal inferior.

Come back when you can multitask, swine.
Atheistic Might
01-03-2005, 13:13
What I have heard that is rather interesting is this: the average IQ of men and women are roughly equal. However, there are more male genuises than there are female ones. But, to balance it out, there are also more male morons than there are female morons. Female IQ has less of a range than male IQ, which means that if you pick a man and a woman at random, the woman will most likely be smarter.
Vangaardia
01-03-2005, 13:30
first of all, the "right side=emotional, left=logical" model went out the window a long time ago...there may be tendencies for biased hemispheric involvement in many tasks, but to break down complex functions like emotion and logic in this simplistic manner is (no offense) very very silly.

second of all, males have repeatedly been shown to demonstrate less ability to regulate their emotions than females. though our stereotypes insist women are the emotive sex, research does not bear that out.

but, perhaps most important, the difference between male and female hemispheric use is that females INTEGRATE to a degree that men do not. it's not a matter of "women use one side, men use the other," it's a matter of "women use both sides, men use one side." this is thought to be at least partially responsible for increased verbal abilities in women, since they may process a given task using more "perspectives" than a man, and may need more complex communication skills to share those perceptions with others.


i want to be very clear: there certainly ARE areas in which the female brain tends to be out-performed by the male brain. there are also areas in which the reverse is true. i just can't stand people trying to use science to support the "emotional women" stereotype, because it is one stereotype that simply doesn't hold up in research. it's also one of the biggest problems i have with women, since they seem to really like using their periods or their "female brains" as an excuse to be emotional, selfish, irrational, and helpless. they like to insist that they're female and can't help it, when the simple fact is that they can help it MORE than men, and they are CHOOSING not to.

Very well said. I have noticed through experiance though limited that men have a harder time with issues of breakups of relationships than do woman. I really believe that it is men who are the "emotional" ones as far as a generalization goes.

Anger counts as an emotion and many men not only do not contain it but flaunt it as some measure of strength???

I am studying this subject through observation and hope to do interviews
Bitchkitten
01-03-2005, 14:30
Women recover from strokes more easily, because a womans left and right hemispheres are more connected and communicate better. Thus the rewiring necessary is easier for women. Male fetuses are more likely to have birth defects and account for a larger number of miscarraiges and stillborns. Most genetic disorders hit males disproportionately.
Preebles
01-03-2005, 14:32
Women recover from strokes more easily, because a womans left and right hemispheres are more connected and communicate better. Thus the rewiring necessary is easier for women.
And the language centre in our brains setles on one side later than in a boy, so we have more chance of retaining language skills in the case of a childhood brain injury. :cool:
Werel
01-03-2005, 20:03
No insult to the ladies. But most men are physically superior to you.
physically superior in which way, I think women generally live significantly longer.
New Tarentum
01-03-2005, 20:06
Men are human. Women are human. Both are equal collectively. Individually, some men are better, some women are.
Roach-Busters
01-03-2005, 20:10
Poll?
Arammanar
01-03-2005, 20:25
We knew that mankind would die out if men had to give birth.
Yeah, but that's cause the only thing we have to give birth out of is significantly smaller.

What I have heard that is rather interesting is this: the average IQ of men and women are roughly equal. However, there are more male genuises than there are female ones. But, to balance it out, there are also more male morons than there are female morons. Female IQ has less of a range than male IQ, which means that if you pick a man and a woman at random, the woman will most likely be smarter.
That means that if you pick 1000 women and 1000 men, their total combined intelligence would be the same. It means that if you pick 1 woman and 1 man, most of the time they would be fairly equally smart, and the remaining percentage would be equally split between having a dumber and a smarter man.
Windly Queef
01-03-2005, 20:32
first of all, the "right side=emotional, left=logical" model went out the window a long time ago...there may be tendencies for biased hemispheric involvement in many tasks, but to break down complex functions like emotion and logic in this simplistic manner is (no offense) very very silly

Of coarse it was a simplification. One couldn't be concious if they didn't use both sides of their brain. The question of where the blood usually is present has been in many studies.


second of all, males have repeatedly been shown to demonstrate less ability to regulate their emotions than females. though our stereotypes insist women are the emotive sex, research does not bear that out.

I wasn't stereotyping anyone. I was born into a family of many women, and I understand that side of me as well.

but, perhaps most important, the difference between male and female hemispheric use is that females INTEGRATE to a degree that men do not.

Okay, if you say so. We use both sides, always.

this is thought to be at least partially responsible for increased verbal abilities in women, since they may process a given task using more "perspectives" than a man, and may need more complex communication skills to share those perceptions with others.

Funny, I don't see that in many women, although that's what people say.


there are also areas in which the reverse is true. i just can't stand people trying to use science to support the "emotional women" stereotype, because it is one stereotype that simply doesn't hold up in research.

I wasn't doing that, now was I?....I said women 'usually tend to use' one side of their brain more than the other gender. I didn't say they're emotional all the time.

Most of this does spring back to habits and cultures...things which we've been doing since are birth as humans. I wouldn't be suprised that there's certain people that don't follow the habits of humanity or that are mentalities have changed along it's coarse.

it's also one of the biggest problems i have with women, since they seem to really like using their periods or their "female brains" as an excuse to be emotional, selfish, irrational, and helpless. they like to insist that they're female and can't help it, when the simple fact is that they can help it MORE than men, and they are CHOOSING not to.


.........
Teh Cameron Clan
01-03-2005, 20:38
Yeah, and any time they aren't pregnant they are having periods. I don't trust anything that bleeds for three days and doesn't die.
how does that go? is it like "anything that bleeds for 3 daysand dosnt die is evil :P"
*prepares for many slaps*
Whispering Legs
01-03-2005, 20:42
I can pee standing up. I win.
I've met women who can do that, and pee further and higher than I can while doing it.
Occidio Multus
01-03-2005, 21:06
Yeah, and any time they aren't pregnant they are having periods. I don't trust anything that bleeds for three days and doesn't die.
the period thing can be controlled. and boys, if it was not for women, you would not have BLOW JOBS. so maybe , just maybe, you should all shut up, before you are forced to insert your penises into a vacuum attachment.
Whispering Legs
01-03-2005, 21:08
the period thing can be controlled. and boys, if it was not for women, you would not have BLOW JOBS. so maybe , just maybe, you should all shut up, before you are forced to insert your penises into a vacuum attachment.

Um. Plenty of men give blow jobs. And mine won't fit into a vacuum attachment.
Occidio Multus
01-03-2005, 21:11
Um. Plenty of men give blow jobs. And mine won't fit into a vacuum attachment.
well, i guess the gays have it made. as for the heteros, they would be so hurting.
and i guess you have tried this. i would like to see ;)
Al Madhi
01-03-2005, 21:18
First of all, something funny, before I get to the serious stuff. And don't bash me for telling this joke, one has to be self-humourus (and yes, I'm masculine):

Who is superior: Men or Women? Women of course. An artist first creates a rough form, before he creates his masterpiece, just like god did, when he created first Adam and then Eve.


Now to the serious stuff. I don't think that either gender is superior to the other. Both have advantages and disadvantages, but both are equal in the end. I would agree to that men generally are better in control of their rationality, while women are better in control of their emotions. With this I mean they better know this part of themselves and how to use it or at least know it sooner. I also said "generally", for there are always exceptions. You could say that there is a masculine and feminine bandwith and at some point they overcross. So there are men with feminine attributes and vice versa.
Whispering Legs
01-03-2005, 21:22
well, i guess the gays have it made. as for the heteros, they would be so hurting.
and i guess you have tried this. i would like to see ;)

You don't have to be gay to accept a blow job from a man. Ask any man with a goatee who spent time in prison.

I haven't been able to fit into a vacuum since I was a small kid (I think almost every guy tries this at one point or another). Couldn't even come close to getting it in there.
Perkeleenmaa
01-03-2005, 23:54
The question is the wrong one. This is the right one: Are men naturally inferior to women?

The rather obvious answer is yes. Men have half a chromosome less than women. They are more prone to deaths from genetic causes, substance abuse, violence, traffic accidents, etc., and all this is attributable to male genetics. Men have an inferior ability to control their emotions, plus that they are more prone to social problems, like serial killers are practically always men. Men die several years earlier than women. They cannot procreate - their basic function is to be a gene vector, nothing else.

But, even with these obvious disadvantages, they do have a few, but not insignificant strong points. One of them is the adaptation to use brute physical strenght. The other is improved spatial reasoning. These do not imply superiority, but they're giving a (only razor-thin) edge to an otherwise inferior creature.

In the stone age, it is well possible that women hunted, too, and took time to bear children not very often. The modern system, where women spend most of their time pregnant is a evolutionary "stunt" that has paid off. Humans have practically eradicated or marginalized all the natural predators threatening them from very large areas. But, this is not going to go on forever.
Legless Pirates
01-03-2005, 23:56
...(I think almost every guy tries this at one point or another)...
Sick dude.
Dakini
01-03-2005, 23:56
My clitoris has twice as many nerve endings as your penis and hey, if i take a spill mountain biking, I can walk away from it.

Plus I get to have tits and nice legs and wear skirts. :)
Equus
01-03-2005, 23:59
Ya'll are funny. I have the best of all possible worlds. I think like a man in some cases, like a woman in others. I throw out the dumbass machismo of guys and the domestic side of a woman. I have a womans body and get to molest men. I can't think of anyway to improve things unless one of you will take my periods. :p

Hey Kitten, go on the Depo contraceptive injections. You can go months between periods.
Stephistan
02-03-2005, 00:01
Are Men Naturally Better Than Women?

Naturally better at taking orders..lol

(shh don't tell Zeppistan I just said that) *LOL* :D
Latta
02-03-2005, 00:03
Of course, I have the penis, so there for I am better.

(LOL, I'm just joking ladies, please don't hurt me.)
Legless Pirates
02-03-2005, 00:04
Because of our awesome power to ignore trivialities
Sezunmi
02-03-2005, 00:07
I can pee standing up. I win.
I can pee standing up too. The only difference is that i don't have a gun to Aim with. :D
Teh Cameron Clan
02-03-2005, 00:09
in a general sence physcaly yes mentaly no :P (as u can see by my typos)
Jaythewise
02-03-2005, 00:09
well I can kick the crap out of any chick i have ever met, as long as i wear a cup... :mp5:
Swimmingpool
02-03-2005, 00:11
Forget the arguements about which gender is stronger/smarter/logical.

Females have a lock on all the majick.

Just look at the asses we men make of ourselves chasing them, trying to capture just a little of that.
That's just what they want you to think.
Equus
02-03-2005, 00:13
well I can kick the crap out of any chick i have ever met, as long as i wear a cup... :mp5:

LOL - a gorilla could beat the crap out of you - does that make it your superior? :D
Jaythewise
02-03-2005, 00:15
LOL - a gorilla could beat the crap out of you - does that make it your superior? :D


hmmm do i get a big gun? women cant use guns, they are too weak.
Swimmingpool
02-03-2005, 00:19
Plus I get to have tits and nice legs and wear skirts. :)
What's so great about those things?
Tograna
02-03-2005, 00:21
you know this is a really really sad thread

who honestly cares, both genders are needed for the continuation of the species thus neither can be "better"
Equus
02-03-2005, 00:23
hmmm do i get a big gun? women cant use guns, they are too weak.

LOL - let me take you skeet shooting some time. I guarantee you this woman can use a gun.
Jaythewise
02-03-2005, 00:30
LOL - let me take you skeet shooting some time. I guarantee you this woman can use a gun.


skeet shooting is for weirdos, who likes shooting plates? That is not indictative of the entire species of women. I have never met a women who can properly shoot a gun, therefore none can...
Equus
02-03-2005, 00:42
skeet shooting is for weirdos, who likes shooting plates? That is not indictative of the entire species of women. I have never met a women who can properly shoot a gun, therefore none can...

:fluffle: And I've never met a man who could properly clean a bathroom, but I am determined to teach at least one eventually. :D
Teh Cameron Clan
02-03-2005, 00:58
:fluffle: And I've never met a man who could properly clean a bathroom, but I am determined to teach at least one eventually. :D
im glad i dont kno u -_-
Eastern Coast America
02-03-2005, 01:00
Men are stronger, faster, dextrious, and have better spacial perception.

Women have better balance, take g-forces better, and have a higher pain tolerence.
Jaythewise
02-03-2005, 01:01
:fluffle: And I've never met a man who could properly clean a bathroom, but I am determined to teach at least one eventually. :D


hmmm get some bleach and a hose, pretty much gold from der...
Equus
02-03-2005, 01:02
That's the first time I've ever heard that men were more dexterous than women.
Harlesburg
02-03-2005, 11:19
Women recover from strokes more easily, because a womans left and right hemispheres are more connected and communicate better. Thus the rewiring necessary is easier for women. Male fetuses are more likely to have birth defects and account for a larger number of miscarraiges and stillborns. Most genetic disorders hit males disproportionately.
Crikey maybe guys are more sophisticated. ;)
Harlesburg
02-03-2005, 11:23
Plus I get to have tits and nice legs and wear skirts. :)
I have Tits My legs are better and i can wear skirts.
So NAh Nah Nee NAh Nah!
Psique
03-03-2005, 10:40
you know this is a really really sad thread

who honestly cares, both genders are needed for the continuation of the species thus neither can be "better"

ditto. and thanks.

nb: why is there so much bullshit on this forum?
Helioterra
03-03-2005, 10:48
ditto. and thanks.

nb: why is there so much bullshit on this forum?
And that's why you bumbed it?
Dasha Blade
03-03-2005, 11:07
No insult to the ladies. But most men are physically superior to you.

Welp, as a woman, I'd much rather look at a naked man than a naked chick, so I guess you're right. :D
Ferantia
03-03-2005, 11:12
Women have to give birth.
This give them a certain superiority, instead of being a dead end like men, women can create...

And I'm saying this even if I'm a dead end :)
Falhaar
03-03-2005, 11:54
Bah, men have ugly bodies. All veiny and hairy... blech.

Women are the final production model.
RSF
03-03-2005, 12:04
Both have their good and bad points. But overall, I think we are fairly even. However, as a guy, I must say, i find Women's superiority thing amazingly annoying....most women seem to think most men are stupid, and treat us that way, at least from what I see. Not me, so much...but that's only because they know i get angry and stand up for myself. But they need to stop thinking they are so good..
Armed Bookworms
03-03-2005, 12:23
Who is superior: Men or Women? Women of course. An artist first creates a rough form, before he creates his masterpiece, just like god did, when he created first Adam and then Eve.

Oddly enough scientifically female is the default setting, which means that males are the improved model.
Armed Bookworms
03-03-2005, 12:27
well I can kick the crap out of any chick i have ever met, as long as i wear a cup... :mp5:
or if you know how to block.
Falhaar
03-03-2005, 15:52
which means that males are the improved model.

Then we need an update badly.
Bitchkitten
03-03-2005, 15:58
Oddly enough scientifically female is the default setting, which means that males are the improved model.

Or perhaps the ones that weren't quite up to par were changed to male. Perhaps not passing the final test gets them changed. :p
Swimmingpool
04-03-2005, 02:26
Dakini, do you really think that guys are jealous of skirts? And most girls will tell you that breasts can be a burden/annoyance, so from your point of view they're not that great.

Bah, men have ugly bodies. All veiny and hairy... blech.

Women are the final production model.
Let me guess, you are a straight male. Stand up for yourself, you sex traitor.

you know this is a really really sad thread

who honestly cares, both genders are needed for the continuation of the species thus neither can be "better"
Actually due to the decay of the Y chromosone, within 5,000 generations only women will be required.

Both have their good and bad points. But overall, I think we are fairly even. However, as a guy, I must say, i find Women's superiority thing amazingly annoying....most women seem to think most men are stupid, and treat us that way, at least from what I see. Not me, so much...but that's only because they know i get angry and stand up for myself. But they need to stop thinking they are so good..
I totally agree with your sentiment, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that most women think men are stupid.

But there is a general attitude in modern society that women are smarter and more beautiful than men.

For example on www.deviantart.com, most artistic nudes are women and these tend to be praised. But when someone submits a good male nude piece, it is far more likely to be taken as a joke, made fun of, etc.
Jibea
04-03-2005, 02:31
Men are superior to women in math, spatial calculations and 3-d, stronger, stong willed, more fit

Women are better at running? speed counting(not needing to count to know the number such as amount of fingers standing up) and multitasking and live longer.

Men are better. Women always nag and sometimes charm people to do their will (lazy patheticlings). Women live in a 3-d world and men are still better.
Kai Mahina
04-03-2005, 02:39
yea we have periods, pms, and we have to give birth, but heh... we get multiple orgasms too.. which is something a guy i know complains about quiet a bit
New Shiron
04-03-2005, 09:17
yea we have periods, pms, and we have to give birth, but heh... we get multiple orgasms too.. which is something a guy i know complains about quiet a bit

now thats just bragging....(chuckle)
Phyritia
04-03-2005, 09:36
i actually know many women who have penis envy so i would have to go with the men being superior
Salvondia
04-03-2005, 09:44
yea we have periods, pms, and we have to give birth, but heh... we get multiple orgasms too.. which is something a guy i know complains about quiet a bit

All men can have orgasms from about age 13 or so, some earlier. A whole lot of women won't even experience an orgasm through straight sex and only through oral. Some women will be able to experience orgasms during their teens, but they are the minority. And some very few women can have multiple orgasms. Women have a wide range when it comes to sex. Men on the other hand are pretty much all of the same variety with different amounts of stamina.

I listen to Dr. Drew way too much.
See u Jimmy
04-03-2005, 09:57
Men aren't better, they are equal.

Physically we (men) get the breaks with no periods/childbirth etc. But Mentally Women get the breaks, multi-tasking, allways able to get compliments, etc.

As to who's best to look at nude, That depends on your sexuality to a large degree, but I know of more women that appreciate another womans body (and are hetrosexual) than I do men, so I think Women are better looking.

So here's a :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: to all the beautiful women. (I think everyone has something beautiful about them, even if it takes a lot of looking for in some)
Swimmingpool
04-03-2005, 14:43
As to who's best to look at nude, That depends on your sexuality to a large degree, but I know of more women that appreciate another womans body (and are hetrosexual) than I do men, so I think Women are better looking.
That's not natural preference. men are just more repressed.
Bottle
04-03-2005, 14:52
i actually know many women who have penis envy so i would have to go with the men being superior
dude, women possess the only organ that is designed exclusively for experiencing pleasure (the clitoris), and that organ--unlike the penis--is capable of providing multiple orgasms in quick succession. why would a woman want a shotgun when she's already got a semi-automatic? :)
Whispering Legs
04-03-2005, 14:53
dude, women possess the only organ that is designed exclusively for experiencing pleasure (the clitoris), and that organ is capable of providing multiple orgasms if propperly stimulated. why would a woman want a shotgun when she's already got a semi-automatic? :)

I have a penis, and when properly stimulated, I have multiple orgasms.

I also give better than I receive, so there.
Bottle
04-03-2005, 15:00
I have a penis, and when properly stimulated, I have multiple orgasms.

according to current physiological data, the neurons that enervate the penis are simply not capable of producing the activity seen in clitoral neurons, based largely on the physiological "recovery period" that the penis must undergo to avoid damage from abnormal priapsis.

now, i'm not trying to tell you what you do and don't feel, i'm just telling you that you aren't experiencing "multiple orgasms" as a female is capable of. the level of excitation in your neurons is, physiologically, lower than those of a female who is experiencing orgasms in this manner. that doesn't mean it's not feeling really really really good, and i am glad you have a great time with your penis, i'm simply pointing out what the physical data show.


I also give better than I receive, so there.
no offense, but whenever a guy brags about his ability to give women orgasms, my first thought is, "yeah, they're faking it." whether or not you are good in bed, bragging about how good you are makes you come across badly.
Whispering Legs
04-03-2005, 15:03
no offense, but whenever a guy brags about his ability to give women orgasms, my first thought is, "yeah, they're faking it." whether or not you are good in bed, bragging about how good you are makes you come across badly.

Considering that I've only been able to do that with one woman consistently, and only one woman has been able to do that to me consistently, I have the feeling that being good in bed depends largely on the two people involved - not on whether any individual is any good.

I've had really bad sex with women who were (not by their own admission, but by their former partner's testimony) supposedly great.
Eltaco
04-03-2005, 15:13
You know you probably shouldn't ask this question without expecting severe backlash. Plus we live in an age were femenists or femennzai's have a lot more power than any of us guys do.
Independent Homesteads
04-03-2005, 15:17
You know you probably shouldn't ask this question without expecting severe backlash. Plus we live in an age were femenists or femennzai's have a lot more power than any of us guys do.

*femennzai's* may have a lot more power than you, but speak for yourself, powerless one.
Preebles
04-03-2005, 15:20
*femennzai's* may have a lot more power than you, but speak for yourself, powerless one.
They're only "nazis" or, "nzais..." because the poor lil bub feels threatened by strong women. His post made that abundantly clear..

And IH, I like the cut of your jib, :D
Serdica
04-03-2005, 15:20
i've read some post's about how the y-chromosome is only *half* the size, so hence women are superior. but if these people went to school they would realise that our y-chromosome is *paired up* with an x chromosome. so instead of it being *half a chromosome less*, it's actually *half a chromosome more*, since the y chromosome codes for somethings that an x chromosome doesn't. it is true that because of this set up men on average have more genetic diseases, but the opposite must be true too, that being men have on average more genetic advantages also. it's all about the *bigger range* thing again.

as for intelligence and exam results... men are better at maths, yet most exams... even physics, chemistry and maths even have too much english in them. if you word questions in a more pro female way, then girls will obviously get higher exam results.
Pinocho
04-03-2005, 15:23
naturally bigger and stronger by average.
VoteEarly
04-03-2005, 15:25
dude, women possess the only organ that is designed exclusively for experiencing pleasure (the clitoris), and that organ--unlike the penis--is capable of providing multiple orgasms in quick succession. why would a woman want a shotgun when she's already got a semi-automatic? :)


You do know they make semi-automatic shotguns, they also make one that can switch between semi and pump (SPAS-12).
VoteEarly
04-03-2005, 15:28
i actually know many women who have penis envy so i would have to go with the men being superior


One of the few things I agree with Freud on.
VoteEarly
04-03-2005, 15:30
You know you probably shouldn't ask this question without expecting severe backlash. Plus we live in an age were femenists or femennzai's have a lot more power than any of us guys do.


Then be a man and do something about it. Let's all start a movement to boot the femi-commies from power.
Hammehland
04-03-2005, 15:39
i've read some post's about how the y-chromosome is only *half* the size, so hence women are superior. but if these people went to school they would realise that our y-chromosome is *paired up* with an x chromosome. so instead of it being *half a chromosome less*, it's actually *half a chromosome more*, since the y chromosome codes for somethings that an x chromosome doesn't. it is true that because of this set up men on average have more genetic diseases, but the opposite must be true too, that being men have on average more genetic advantages also. it's all about the *bigger range* thing again.

The Y chromosome doesn't actually contain many genes, virtually all are those required to determined maleness. Most of it is redunant genes and repeated sections. Because there is no other Y chromosome to pair up and cross over with, it just accumulates more mutations. I'm not sure it's really a genetic advantage really. Plus increased testosterone in males is believed to play a role in the shorter length of life in males compared to that of females.
Independent Homesteads
04-03-2005, 15:40
Then be a man and do something about it. Let's all start a movement to boot the femi-commies from power.

You could call it "Tilting at Windmills".
VoteEarly
04-03-2005, 15:54
You could call it "Tilting at Windmills".


Okay Cervantes...
Whispering Legs
04-03-2005, 16:31
Then be a man and do something about it. Let's all start a movement to boot the femi-commies from power.

Femi-commie? Is Condi Rice a femi-commie because she holds power at the State Department? Because she represents the US overseas?

What is a femi-commie?

Maybe you need to read Lysistrata again.
VoteEarly
04-03-2005, 16:38
Femi-commie? Is Condi Rice a femi-commie because she holds power at the State Department? Because she represents the US overseas?

What is a femi-commie?

Maybe you need to read Lysistrata again.


http://www.newswithviews.com/Roberts/carey3.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/Roberts/careyA.htm
Whispering Legs
04-03-2005, 16:40
Hmm. So, since Condi has never married, and never had children, she's a femi-commie?

I'm sure George will be surprised to hear that.
Independent Homesteads
04-03-2005, 16:56
http://www.newswithviews.com/Roberts/carey3.htm

http://www.newswithviews.com/Roberts/careyA.htm

Thank you for pointing out the existence of this odd character.
Whispering Legs
04-03-2005, 17:09
So far, I haven't seen any evidence that men are, in overall, better than women.

In fact, I've seen so much individual variation, that I can't even say that as a generalization - it's the extreme cases that stand out.

So far, women have men beat on the getting pregnant thing, though.

I've noticed in my career that most women supervisors I've had were better than most men supervisors - but that's my personal experience.
Jamil
04-03-2005, 17:15
Girlpower!
Salvondia
04-03-2005, 17:48
as for intelligence and exam results... men are better at maths, yet most exams... even physics, chemistry and maths even have too much english in them. if you word questions in a more pro female way, then girls will obviously get higher exam results.

Um no. All the word questions are is a way of presenting variables to you that you then need to plug into an equation. They are math problems through and through. Replacing every single question on a physics exam with word problems wouldn't change the fact that men would, on the average, do better than women.
Salvondia
04-03-2005, 17:50
So far, I haven't seen any evidence that men are, in overall, better than women.

In fact, I've seen so much individual variation, that I can't even say that as a generalization - it's the extreme cases that stand out.

So far, women have men beat on the getting pregnant thing, though.

I've noticed in my career that most women supervisors I've had were better than most men supervisors - but that's my personal experience.

What level supervisor? Either way I suppose that would be expected somewhat. Women tend to be better at inter-personal skills right? That should make them somewhat more adept at being good supervisors.
Whispering Legs
04-03-2005, 18:01
What level supervisor? Either way I suppose that would be expected somewhat. Women tend to be better at inter-personal skills right? That should make them somewhat more adept at being good supervisors.

Software project leads, from a team of 20 people up to 100.

I had another theory.

Being a mother is not being the housemaid. It's being a manager. In the old days, the mother managed the home. It wasn't simple and it wasn't easy.

I believe that there's been selection pressure (from a reproductive standpoint) on women over the ages to select for good mangers - otherwise, the survival of the family would have been at risk.

It's not just the interpersonal skills. The women I've met know how to manage.
LazyHippies
04-03-2005, 18:08
It is pointless to ask the question "are men naturally better than women?" because it demands the question "better at what?". If you ask what the best car is, what is the answer? Well, there is no answer, the answer depends on what your criteria is. If it is raw speed then the best car is something like the Lamborghini diablo. If your criteria is reliability, then the best car is probably something like the Buick Regal, Toyota Camry, or Nissan Maxima. If you are talking about the best car for off road use, then the answer is probably something from Land Rover. If your criteria is the best car for hauling heavy loads, then the best car will obviously be some type of pickup truck. The point is there is no all around "better" or "best". The same applies in the field of computers (best for graphics? a SGI workstation, best for physics computation? a Cray, best for servers? Sun microsystems, best for home users? Mac. etc..). There is rarely a best at everything and this applies to humans as well. Men are naturally better than women at some things. Women are naturally better than men at others. The question of who is better is unfair and poorly thought out.
Liskeinland
04-03-2005, 18:21
Bah, men have ugly bodies. All veiny and hairy... blech.

Women are the final production model.

Oh yes, I agree with you on that. In fact, it's obvious that women have bad judgement, since they seem to like mens' bodies… :rolleyes:
Santa Barbara
04-03-2005, 18:38
Men create better music.
Valikar
04-03-2005, 18:46
This is a silly issue. Some think men are better. Others think that of women. I think neither. They each have strong points, but both are human. Besides, isn't equality supposed to be the ideal?