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So in Day of the Dead - the much-maligned of the Romero living dead series - you find numerous additions to zombie lore, including the discovery that zombies can learn, retain memory and in fact be taught things.

And can use guns!

Do you think this ruined the zombies' concept, or otherwise goes against your true belief/vision of what zombies are about?

Secondly, how long before someone makes a remake of Day of the Dead? If they do, it'll be interesting since by now zombies can run fast, and if they can run fast and shoot guns... they're like superhuman infected undead insurgents!

So in Day of the Dead - the much-maligned of the Romero living dead series - you find numerous additions to zombie lore, including the discovery that zombies can learn, retain memory and in fact be taught things.


Heheh ... in Shaun of the Dead, zombies are used in the end to perform all manner of menial tasks. :D

Zombies are supposed to be incredibly stupid. And they don't run, they stagger and lurch.

Hehe yes, Shaun of the Dead is great.

But I don't know. At first I also stuck to traditionalism, to the concept that zombies are slow, shuffling undead types. I can see several supporting bits for this.

-Inevitably, the true zombie film is about an unstoppable approaching zombie plague and the doom of all characters good and bad.
-Zombies that can run can and do kill you quicker.
-Zombies that shuffle merely take longer to get to you.

Thus, shuffling zombies are scarier since there is more time; you can run, stop, run, stop, as long as you avoid zombiecontact. Suspense and fear can build up for longer. You have more time to reflect upon the inevitability of your death due to zombies.

However, Dawn of the Dead also highlighted the reasons I think we need faster zombies to compete in the modern world.

The film was actually rather funny, with the music (I love!) and the fact that evading and hit-and-run mobile warfare against the zombies was so successful. In fact, it was so successful the only way to lose is through character ineptitude.

With fast zombies the old tricks become useless, and the zombie is a fearsome opponent instead of a laughably pathetic shuffler.

Still, the shuffling zombies do have their charm... which is why I accept all zombies as equally zombielike, merely at different stages of evolution.

*mumbles* Goddamned zombie gunmen.....

Well, given a zombie apocalypse, I'd just make it a real apocalypse and nuke everything.

Hehe yes, Shaun of the Dead is great.

But I don't know. At first I also stuck to traditionalism, to the concept that zombies are slow, shuffling undead types. I can see several supporting bits for this.

-Inevitably, the true zombie film is about an unstoppable approaching zombie plague and the doom of all characters good and bad.
-Zombies that can run can and do kill you quicker.
-Zombies that shuffle merely take longer to get to you.

Thus, shuffling zombies are scarier since there is more time; you can run, stop, run, stop, as long as you avoid zombiecontact. Suspense and fear can build up for longer. You have more time to reflect upon the inevitability of your death due to zombies.

However, Dawn of the Dead also highlighted the reasons I think we need faster zombies to compete in the modern world.

The film was actually rather funny, with the music (I love!) and the fact that evading and hit-and-run mobile warfare against the zombies was so successful. In fact, it was so successful the only way to lose is through character ineptitude.

With fast zombies the old tricks become useless, and the zombie is a fearsome opponent instead of a laughably pathetic shuffler.

Still, the shuffling zombies do have their charm... which is why I accept all zombies as equally zombielike, merely at different stages of evolution.
Good points.
Personally, I'd be far more worried about fast zombies with at least some learning ability, because honestly, you have to be pretty foolish to get killed by the slow staggering types. Honestly, grannies with walkers can move faster.

Appearenly, Romero himself doesn't like the idea of "fast" zombies. I think he said that rigor mortis would render movement of such speed imposible for an up-and-about corpse.

Personally, I'd be much more terrified of fast zombies. All the hunger of a slow zombie, just much faster. Slow zombies can still be a big threat, though. Their strength is in overwhelming numbers and the supidity of the victim. If one runs themself into a dead end, it could very well be over.

The point of zombies is to be the unstoppable thing in the dark that comes at you and comes at you and comes at you until you're dead or the sun rises. This digs deep into the human psyche where certain prehistoric fears still lay dormant and brings them to the forefront.

So.. these zombies kinda suck. They're too human. :mp5:

Well, Doom zombies can use guns. Then again they're not really so much zimbies as demon possesed humans who exhibit zombie like behavior.

Zombies are supposed to be incredibly stupid. And they don't run, they stagger and lurch.

You haven't played the zombie mod for Counterstrike Source. ;)

With guns or without, I'll still kill them the same way. With my 12-Gauge.

Cause I'm a zombie killer.

^.^

Faster zombies? Faster piles of dead zombies.

Ravea, do you belong to this (http://zombiehunters.org/) organization?

Dude, Dawn of the Dead rocks out hardcore. Something about seeing a lounge singer singing Disturbed's Down With the Sickness was just fuckin awesome.