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We were just having a chat here about all the times in the media we have heard americans making fun of canadians......never the other way round for some reason!?...

Maybe some people could shed some light on this as some of us have been wondering for years where this all comes from?!...

We were just having a chat here about all the times in the media we have heard americans making fun of canadians......never the other way round for some reason!?...

Maybe some people could shed some light on this as some of us have been wondering for years where this all comes from?!...

Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents,
They just want to fart and curse. Should we blame the government, or blame society, or should we blame the images on tv No!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada

With all their beady little eyes,
their flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault, it's Canada's fault! Don't blame me, for my son Stan, He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to
join the klan!> And my boy eric once, had my picture on his shelf, but now when I see him, he tells me to fuck myself>

Well, Blame Canada!

It seems that everything's gone wrong since
Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada! They're not even a real country anyway. My son could of been a doctor or a lawyer, it's a true, Instead he burned up like a piggie on a barbecue> Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire, or the doctor who allowed him to expire. Heck no!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their hockey hubaloo and that bitch Anne Murray too. Blame Canada!
Shame on Canada!

The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

It's like the Australia - New Zealand relation. :p

It seems odd as well that we never hear it happen the other way around?! you know with jokes about americans.....

It seems odd as well that we never hear it happen the other way around?! you know with jokes about americans.....

Come to Canada... that happens too!

You can't live next to someone for a few hundred years without developing SOME rivalries after all......

Is it just me or is Canada still part of America?

Is it just me or is Canada still part of America?

Yes, Canada is part of North America, the largest part in fact!

ok, Canada is to the USA like a little brother. We can make fun of and beat up our little brother, but if anybody else messes with our little brother, they better get ready for the beatdown.

At least that's how I see it.

not all of us hate canada. how can you hate your little brother?

Canada
by: Five Iron Frenzy
welcome to canada
its the maple leaf state
canada, oh canada
its great
there people are nice and
they speak french too
if you don't like it man--you sniff glue
the great white north
their kilts are plaid
hosers take off
its not half bad

i want to be
where yacks can run free
where royal mounties
can harass me

let's go to canada
let's leave today
canada, oh canada
i s'il vous plait

they've got trees and mooses and sled dogs
lots of lumber and lumber jacks and logs
people think its kind of a drag
that you have to go there
to get milk in a bag
they say "eh?" instead of "what?" or "duh!"
that's the mighty power of canada

i want to be where lemmings run into the sea
where the marmosets can
attack me

lets go to canada
lets leave today
canada, oh canada
i s'il vous plait
lets go to canada
lets leave today
canada, oh canada
i s'il vous plait

will you please explain to me
how this all has come to be
we forgot to mention something here
did we say that william shatner
is a native citizen
and slurpies made from venison
that's deer

lets go to canada
lets leave today
canada, oh canada
i s'il vous plait
lets go to canda
lets leave today
canada, oh canada
i a'il vous plait

I don't know what you're talking about. Most Canadians I've met can deal the America-bashing just as well as any European.

ok, Canada is to the USA like a little brother. We can make fun of and beat up our little brother, but if anybody else messes with our little brother, they better get ready for the beatdown.

At least that's how I see it.

Canada doesn't need nor want the US as a big brother, I'm not sure how many ways we can say it before Americans get it.

It seems odd as well that we never hear it happen the other way around?! you know with jokes about americans.....
When I lived in Canada I heard tons. Many about how Canadians go to cuba cause Americans aren't allowed... Well, I'm dual between the two, so it doesn't matter to me. I can tease either... lol

Sorry about that, my computer is a bitch...

Canada doesn't need nor want the US as a big brother, I'm not sure how many ways we can say it before Americans get it.

ok then, more of a friend, can make fun of a friend while playing around, but those who make fun of your friend die.... or something like that.

hey look over there! some balloons!

I think the misunderstanding comes from political differances blow out of proportion by our medias. The majority of Canada has been liberal leaning for years now while the US has taken a sharp turn towrds a more conservative approach since Sept 11 2001.

More or less it is a differance of opinion. I live in upsate New York and Travel to Canada quite often. (Niagra Falls) In the discussions that I've had with Canadians it seems to be a simple differance in how to handle things. More of the canadians I've talked to seem to think a hands off protect your own boarders type of stance is best when it comes to world politics, which works well for them and has for years.

Many in the US, Myself included, have just the opposite opinion. We tried the hands off, influance from afar approach and it lead to two landmark building and almost 3000 people being killed. Many now believe that if we stand back and wait we will get smacked again, and history has proven this over and over.

In short do not pay any attention to the media, they are out to make a story, or at least make a mountain out of a moll hill. Talk to an american or a canadian and see how they feel.

I love Canada, super hunting and fishing.

We were just having a chat here about all the times in the media we have heard americans making fun of canadians......never the other way round for some reason!?...

Maybe some people could shed some light on this as some of us have been wondering for years where this all comes from?!...
I don't know any Canadians in "real life," but most of the ones I know on here sem to be about as anti-American as you can get and still be human. If there are American jokes about Canadians, I'm not aware of them. :(

there is also the main issue that canadians dont screw with the domestic affairs of the entire world like the US gov't does. we only act with the UN or NATO and not fuel conflicts through arms and training of one party of a war. this has been seen in Iraq in the 1980's, Afganistan against the soviets, and in the affairs in Cuba. causeing of domestic disputes for various benefits is not in canadian foreign policy, thus much of the world hates americans. personally as a canadian, i dont, but there are definately a few american individuals i really dislike. ie. the entire bush regeme.

Many in the US, Myself included, have just the opposite opinion. We tried the hands off, influance from afar approach and it lead to two landmark building and almost 3000 people being killed. Many now believe that if we stand back and wait we will get smacked again, and history has proven this over and over.


I'm sorry???

In what sense were you under the impression that United States foreign policy prior to 9/11 was anything that even remotely resembled "hands off, influence from afar"?

The United States was then, for a very long time before then, and remains today, the single most internationally meddlesome nation on the face of the the planet... it's one of the major reasons if not the primary reason you manage to get so many people around the world so incredibly pissed off at you.

I think the misunderstanding comes from political differances blow out of proportion by our medias. The majority of Canada has been liberal leaning for years now while the US has taken a sharp turn towrds a more conservative approach since Sept 11 2001.

More or less it is a differance of opinion. I live in upsate New York and Travel to Canada quite often. (Niagra Falls) In the discussions that I've had with Canadians it seems to be a simple differance in how to handle things. More of the canadians I've talked to seem to think a hands off protect your own boarders type of stance is best when it comes to world politics, which works well for them and has for years.

Many in the US, Myself included, have just the opposite opinion. We tried the hands off, influance from afar approach and it lead to two landmark building and almost 3000 people being killed. Many now believe that if we stand back and wait we will get smacked again, and history has proven this over and over.

In short do not pay any attention to the media, they are out to make a story, or at least make a mountain out of a moll hill. Talk to an american or a canadian and see how they feel.

I love Canada, super hunting and fishing.


Sounds very sensible and we shouldnt listen to the media too much but its big TV shows that say it all (like Salvondia said earlier about southpark) and if you dont talk to people from either nation, its easy to think there is a racist
feeling going on......maybe 'racist' is putting it a bit strongly, but you get the point?!....

We were just having a chat here about all the times in the media we have heard americans making fun of canadians......never the other way round for some reason!?...

Maybe some people could shed some light on this as some of us have been wondering for years where this all comes from?!...Please stop confusing "US citizens" or "US-Americans" with "Americans" in general.

Please stop confusing "US citizens" or "US-Americans" with "Americans" in general.

please explain the difference?!?

It seems odd as well that we never hear it happen the other way around?! you know with jokes about americans.....
Are you kidding? We make fun of Americans all the time! They just don't get the jokes because...:)

ok, Canada is to the USA like a little brother. We can make fun of and beat up our little brother, but if anybody else messes with our little brother, they better get ready for the beatdown.

At least that's how I see it.
Bah. Nuts to you, "Big Brother". No relation.

Are you kidding? We make fun of Americans all the time! They just don't get the jokes because...:)

Ha! probably better you didnt finish the sentence!
But for the majority of people over here, our only frame of reference is the media, and ive never heard the joke go that way before......im sure it happens, so why is the media so biased??

please explain the difference?!?
Only in English can you call yourself American and mean a citizen of the United States of America. Un americano in Spanish means an American....in the sense of a person living in the Americas, North or South. That's the difference.

Ha! probably better you didnt finish the sentence!
But for the majority of people over here, our only frame of reference is the media, and ive never heard the joke go that way before......im sure it happens, so why is the media so biased??


Because you aren't watching Canadian media? (http://www.radio.cbc.ca/programs/thismorning/sites/a&e/mercer_010330.html)

I think one of the reasons that America is more involved in world affairs is because we have a much more dominate position than most other nations, includung Canada. Just the size of our economy means that the way that America acts has a much larger effect on other nations. Cuba for example, if America ended its embargo Cuba's economy could be much larger. Its not like the Canada travelers really have much effect on Cuba.
Also, America has defense obligations with various nations around the world. Our support of Isreal means that we have to be involved in the Middle East process. Same as our obligations towards Taiwan vs China. Same as our obligations during the Cold War with western Europe vs USSR. To some extent I think Canada gets off easy being so close to the US. They sort of get some umbrella protection effect. On the other hand, some might see them as being more at risk being so close to the US.
The point is that if Canada was geographically seperated from the US and closer to some other part of the world, like right next to China for example, I think that they would have to take a much larger role in world affairs.

Ha! probably better you didnt finish the sentence!
But for the majority of people over here, our only frame of reference is the media, and ive never heard the joke go that way before......im sure it happens, so why is the media so biased??
Probably because you get American media, but not Canadian:) Although our new outlets tend not to bash the US, everyone else feels free to:) Rick Mercer in particular had a brilliant segment called, "Talking to Americans" where he would ask them stupid questions and get sincere, stupid answers. GENIUS!!!!

Only in English can you call yourself American and mean a citizen of the United States of America. Un americano in Spanish means an American....in the sense of a person living in the Americas, North or South. That's the difference.

doh.....you'll have to excuse me! dont get out of the country much!ha ha!

I don't know any Canadians in "real life," but most of the ones I know on here sem to be about as anti-American as you can get and still be human. If there are American jokes about Canadians, I'm not aware of them. :(


And if you would stop equating anti-Bush to Anti-American you might have a point......but hey, if we don't all bow down before his every garbbled pronouncement I guess we just aren't "human" enough to be American.... or at least in that huge 51% majority of Americans....

:rolleyes:

Canadians make plenty of fun at the expense of Americans. It is nothing personal... It is just very easy...
Seriously, I think that there is very little hate between the two. Here is Canada we make fun of the Americans and wonder at how daft certain American politicans who go by their middle initial are, but beneath the surface we consider the Yanks our closest and most trusted friends. True, it seems that every decision the Americans make in terms of foreign policy and social policy are the dramatic opposite of what we do here, but that's more likely to produce witty comedy shows like 'Talking To Americans' rather than hate. To paraphrase (I cannot remember the actual line, but this is close, if less eloquent) the "Pirates of Penzance":

"Individually I love you all, but collectively I abhor you..."

On the other side of the coin, my guess is that a similar situation prevails, if the Americans even know we exist at all.

So it seems from the North Side, anyway.
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_____________________________________________________________
P.S.: Stop calling Canada a little brother! Canada is a feminine word. I have no idea who thinks up these things; but for some reason Canada, the U.K., and Russia are female whereas the U.S.A. and Germany are male.

P.P.S.: For a 'little sister', Canada is a lot bigger than the U.S.A. (Although I imagine you were going by either population or date of independence/confederation, so I guess there's no problem).

doh.....you'll have to excuse me! dont get out of the country much!ha ha!
Don't worry about...people in the US will argue until they're blue in the face that they should be called Americans because after all, people in the UK aren't called United Kingdomers....

That perhaps could be comparable if the UK was called United England, and the English took their name AFTER the fact....

Because you aren't watching Canadian media? (http://www.radio.cbc.ca/programs/thismorning/sites/a&e/mercer_010330.html)

listening to that guy now! I see what you mean, it goes the other way too!..its just not broadcast over here very much.....

listening to that guy now! I see what you mean, it goes the other way too!..its just not broadcast over here very much.....
I guess the difference is that in our more 'serious' media, our anchorpersons don't bother to diss the US...yet certain US media outlets have no problem calling us names. Whatever, we shrug it off. If they ever invaded us, we'd set our pet Polar Bears on them and retreat to our igloos.

Only in English can you call yourself American and mean a citizen of the United States of America. Un americano in Spanish means an American....in the sense of a person living in the Americas, North or South. That's the difference.


actualy the majority of languages use American to mean american, /including/ spanish. there is very little difference between the two and since it is now an established and accepted deffinition, there is no reason to be so upset about it. get over the fact that the united states is the more famous of the contries in North America.

It may also have something to do with having America IN THEIR NAME!!!!

actualy the majority of languages use American to mean american, /including/ spanish. there is very little difference between the two and since it is now an established and accepted deffinition, there is no reason to be so upset about it. get over the fact that the united states is the more famous of the contries in North America.

It may also have something to do with having America IN THEIR NAME!!!!

Ha Ha! Ahem, sorry!!

I guess the difference is that in our more 'serious' media, our anchorpersons don't bother to diss the US...yet certain US media outlets have no problem calling us names. Whatever, we shrug it off. If they ever invaded us, we'd set our pet Polar Bears on them and retreat to our igloos.

Why does this strike me as especially hilarious? Stealth polar bears, waiting in ambush, paw across their nose to hide it. (black nose - not good camouflage, polar bears cover it to help them disappear)... it's playing out like a scene from aliens in my mind....
"They're everywhere!"
"Where'd the come from?"

I realise this'll probably be less funny to everyone else, but never mind.

In Britain we get American news channelled through at us at late o'clock, and Chinese news sometimes, but never any Canadian news. I'm kinda envious now, considering most peoples opinion places Canadian news just behind the BBC for impartiality from people I've asked. Bah.

actualy the majority of languages use American to mean american, /including/ spanish. there is very little difference between the two and since it is now an established and accepted deffinition, there is no reason to be so upset about it. get over the fact that the united states is the more famous of the contries in North America.

It may also have something to do with having America IN THEIR NAME!!!!
Bah. See what I mean? :)

In Spanish, a US citizen is an estadounidense (or gringo if you want to get insulting) not un americano, because too often, americano can be confused as being anyone in the Americas. I admit, it would be difficult in English to call people in the US anything other than Americans...but I will go out of my way to say,"U.S citizen or people of the US" rather than American. Why? Because no other country in the Americas has had the desire to conquer the world and make it over in its image...starting of course with its 'back-yard', Latin America. This issue can get many Latin Americans frothing at the mouth....usually the ones who don't care are of a certain upper class and political leaning who wouldn't mind closer ties:)

I've yet to hear one good reason for Americans hating Canada. I'm American and I love Canada, it's everything good about US without the bad. I want to go there, not just because Bush but because it's an awesome country.

And to the person who said that Canada is like the USA's little brother...well, we kind of think of you as the dimwitted cousin we have to put up with, despite his strength, he expends most of his energy in temper tantrums and power struggles over minute things, is often found playing with shiny and lethal toys which he wants to share with us, but we have no use for, and in the end, we pat him on his simple head and whisper to him that we love him, even though he's just a big, dumb brute:)

The opinions expressed here do not necesarily reflect the views of the poster, despite the fact that she herself posted them. It is all in good fun...

oh it has the bad... trust me I've bee through it in the 17 years I lived there. It just doesn't have as much of it and you don't hear about it as much


oh btw French, Portuguese, Romanian and Italian don't have a word for US citizens except American, contrary to having words for Canadien, Mexican, Cuban, ect...

one language's word does not make a rule be, the majority rule in most areas of today's society ( except for US federal elections that is :) )

One day God was talking to one of his angels telling the angel about this amazing place he was creating.
"There will be beautiful mountains and lakes and amazing forests and scenery. Many animals will frolic through the lands; moose, beavers, and other happy creatures. The people will all be very laid back and friendly and constantly having a fantastic time living in their paradise."
"Wow," replyed the angel, "but that doesn't really seem fair to the rest of the nations in the world..why do they get it so good when all the other countries have such huge problems?"
"Just wait till you see the neighbors I'm giving them!"

Canada throws like a girl!

Canada throws like a girl!
..................... WTF, mate? :confused:

*snip*
I always loved that one! Here is one I'm ripping off from Spanish:

An Australian visited Canada and the United States, looking to see which country could provide him with the best brain surgery for a life-threatening condition. He decided finally by flipping a coin, and ended up in Canada. During the operation, the Canadian doctor fingered through the Australian's brain mass and joked that if he added a bit more brain matter, the man would be as smart as a Canadian. As he was speaking, his scalpel slipped and he accidentally managed to cut out half of the man's brain! In a panic, they finished up and hoped the patient wouldn't notice. As the man came around, the doctor waited for some sign that the mistake hadn't left the man unable to speak or had otherwise impaired him. The patient looked up at him and drawled,

"How y'all doin'? Dagnabbit if my noggin' ain't throbbin, doc!"

The doctor sighed in relief...the patient was fine, he'd just "gone American".



Yeah, it's terrible I know...and actually insults us both by the telling....*slinks off in shame*

One day God was talking to one of his angels telling the angel about this amazing place he was creating.
"There will be beautiful mountains and lakes and amazing forests and scenery. Many animals will frolic through the lands; moose, beavers, and other happy creatures. The people will all be very laid back and friendly and constantly having a fantastic time living in their paradise."
"Wow," replyed the angel, "but that doesn't really seem fair to the rest of the nations in the world..why do they get it so good when all the other countries have such huge problems?"
"Just wait till you see the neighbors I'm giving them!"

Tut tut!ha!

..................... WTF, mate? :confused:Mission accomplished, Corporal. Return to base.


SIR, YES, SIR!

*salutes*

Canada wears white at the most inappropriate times!

That perhaps could be comparable if the UK was called United England, and the English took their name AFTER the fact....

Just to clarify here, a common mistake: The English take their name after 'England'. There is a difference between being British and being English; being British involves connection with the UK, which does include Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland, as well as England.

Oh, and when does Canada wear white? You know, I find the US attitude towards Canada quite strange in that respect... they don't delve head first into every conflict, but are willing to defend their allies at the drop of a hat when it's necessary (in WW2 for example, Canada declared war on Germany less than a week after her cousins in Europe. Where was America for the next two years? Yet who gets all the glory in the films?)

Mission accomplished, Corporal. Return to base.


SIR, YES, SIR!

*salutes*

Canada wears white at the most inappropriate times!
Welcome to first grade, children. :sniper:

Just to clarify here, a common mistake: The English take their name after 'England'. There is a difference between being British and being English; being British involves connection with the UK, which does include Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland, as well as England.
No clarification necessary. I get that. In fact, I don't think anyone doesn't understand that. All I'm saying is that in Spanish, being American is equivalent to being British...it involves more than one connection to one country. In English, this isn't so, since being American refers only to US citizens.

The parallel I was drawing was if the UK was called United England, and England decided to take the name England and the term English to mean just itself. Spotty, I know, but hopefully you get my intent:)

Welcome to first grade, children. :sniper:First grade is the highest quality. Frankly, there is nothing to discuss here unless someone wants to get into socio-political relationships in North America. The very subject is more of a doubtful confuse or disgust than any statement as such. You cannot make a sweeping subjective generalization about a nation without encountering objections. Americans hate Canadians doesn't have the same veracity as the sky being blue. Hence, I'm not proffering a useful or even meaningful opinion on the subject. I will say as many silly things as I wish because I am a jackass and it pleases me to be so.

Canada lost to Scotland for the right to play double-dutch with Wales!

Living in the US. I personally never hear of people bashing Canada. Its True. But on the odd occasion that I find myself in the great land to the north. I have seen protests and heard Canadians bashing America. Much like I do in Europe. The protest I was talking about was against the war in Yugoslavia. Now how can stopping genocide be something worthy of protest? Who knows. Maybe just a knee jerk reaction that some people have against America. I think this arguement is completely one sided.

I'm sorry..not to be off topic here but has anyone seen that hilarious 70s show when they all go down to canada?..

First grade is the highest quality. Frankly,

Canada lost to Scotland for the right to play double-dutch with Wales!


I thought the point behind alot of threads was to encounter other peoples opinions??

I truly hate to stray back on topic here...but weren't we talking of relations betwixt Canada and the US? lol
I personally have no problem with Canadian's...On the "World Stage" they may seem weak or neutral...I simply see a Nation that refuses to infringe it's view on other's.
Oh...
and Vancouver is awesome...lol
3 cheers for P.P.C.L.I

Gotsta go here but try and play nice and i'll check back on the bloodshed tm! :)

I thought the point behind alot of threads was to encounter other peoples opinions??That is where you are patently wrong, and this is no opinion, sir. You are wrong.. wrong and fat.

Fatty.

I've met many Canadians and they are fine people...until the subject of Hockey is brought up. The Canadians have been known to root for the Russians over the US in international tournaments, and I got bombarded witha lot of personal invective from these people when Canda beat the US for the Gold in 2002. You might have thougt they beat us in a war or something!

I will readily admit that Canadian beer is far superior to American beer (mass produced division).

Hate who? Canadians? Are they still up there?! Ok guys, you won the bet. You can leave now. Move to a place with more than two seasons! Now!

im soery but what are you on aboot, eh?
hehe. i love the way canadians talk. but im sort of getting over this conversation...

I've met many Canadians and they are fine people...until the subject of Hockey is brought up. The Canadians have been known to root for the Russians over the US in international tournaments, and I got bombarded witha lot of personal invective from these people when Canda beat the US for the Gold in 2002. You might have thougt they beat us in a war or something!

I will readily admit that Canadian beer is far superior to American beer (mass produced division).
Hockey IS war. We fully expect to win every single international competition we go to. We hoot and holler against every opponent and might even become hooligans.

It's nothing personnal...

You are right on the beer, though.

Is it just me or is Canada still part of America?

canada was settled BEFORE the states, should be the other way around

Yes, Canada is part of North America, the largest part in fact!
and the most useless ! muhahah j/k i just had to make a crack at canada...why everyone makes fun of it i have no idea :confused:

And another reason why we don't take Canada seriously...This is from an Canadian (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/comment/story.html?id=d0ee0f9d-2cda-491e-b603-ef6687df8318&page=1) editorial that asks what Canada should stand for, in foreign policy terms. The conclusion of piece is that they don't stand for much more than eye-wash, but this part was pretty funny on it's own.
Our refusal to participate in the U.S. ballistic missile shield, a project that would protect Canadian and American cities alike from immolation, is perhaps the best example yet of how thoroughly fantasy and reality diverge in Ottawa. On Thursday, our government declared it would have nothing to do with the shield -- a foolish gesture meant to placate the pacifists in the Liberal caucus. But the next day, our PM advanced the conceit that the Americans would still have to consult with us before activating the system. One can practically hear the howls of laughter emanating from the few Washington officials who still bother to inform themselves of Ottawa's pronouncements: Can anyone seriously imagine that the President would ask our PM for permission to shoot down a missile heading for a U.S. target?

while i do love canada, i still think they get too defensive when we make fun of that accent.......

while i do love canada, i still think they get too defensive when we make fun of that accent.......

Canadians don't have an accent, Americans do.. *LOL*

And another reason why we don't take Canada seriously...This is from an Canadian (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/comment/story.html?id=d0ee0f9d-2cda-491e-b603-ef6687df8318&page=1) editorial that asks what Canada should stand for, in foreign policy terms. The conclusion of piece is that they don't stand for much more than eye-wash, but this part was pretty funny on it's own.

What? Don't American editorials ever disagree with the decisions of the US government? Why shouldn't a Canadian opinion writer voice his dissatisfaction with the government's position?

Canadians don't have an accent, Americans do.. *LOL*
well, different parts of the usa have different accents. and of the great white northerners have the same, hillarious speech. i think thats why its a teasing point

What? Don't American editorials ever disagree with the decisions of the US government? Why shouldn't a Canadian opinion writer voice his dissatisfaction with the government's position?
You missed the point of the part I quoted. That section explained some actions by the Canadian government which were really funny, ironic, or just silly. The conclusions of the writer were his business, but the actions of the goverment are why Canadians aren't taken seriously.

I speak mainly for myself- I have nothing at all against Canadians. I've been to Canada a few time for short stays in the Niagra Falls area and the Canadians I dealt with were friendly and pleasant. I'm an American from New York and no one in my circle of family/friends has anything bad to say about Canadians as a people.
Thats all-just wanted to weigh in with something positive.

You missed the point of the part I quoted. That section explained some actions by the Canadian government which were really funny, ironic, or just silly. The conclusions of the writer were his business, but the actions of the goverment are why Canadians aren't taken seriously.
:rolleyes:

Like your opinion is the be all and end all of opinions...

As a canadian, and rabid US-basher, I have to say that it's not, completely, personnal when we make fun of you. We do, a lot, a whole lot. It's just that when you are next to such a powerful country that you are so closely allied too and disagree with so vastly, you feel a need to boost your own ego at their expense, and there is so much material made avalible. I, personnally, have very good friends who are, or consider themselves, american, and, except for the more extreme right-wingers, like you as a people.

I do find it both funny and sad that you, apparently, are not aware of how much we bash and make fun of you. Funny, because we do it so much and you seem to be oblivious, and sad, because we are so closely allied and you don't seem to have any sense of the sentiments of the majority of us, or our media and culture. Watch, if you can find a copy or an online source, Rick Mercer's special 'Talking To Americans', that was broadcast on the CBC. If you have any knowledge of us, you will find it hillairious, especially the bit with the boy and his grandmother.

Thanks again for the civility of this thread, and, again, it's not personnal.

As a canadian, and rabid US-basher, I have to say that it's not, completely, personnal when we make fun of you. We do, a lot, a whole lot. It's just that when you are next to such a powerful country that you are so closely allied too and disagree with so vastly, you feel a need to boost your own ego at their expense, and there is so much material made avalible. I, personnally, have very good friends who are, or consider themselves, american, and, except for the more extreme right-wingers, like you as a people.

I do find it both funny and sad that you, apparently, are not aware of how much we bash and make fun of you. Funny, because we do it so much and you seem to be oblivious, and sad, because we are so closely allied and you don't seem to have any sense of the sentiments of the majority of us, or our media and culture. Watch, if you can find a copy or an online source, Rick Mercer's special 'Talking To Americans', that was broadcast on the CBC. If you have any knowledge of us, you will find it hillairious, especially the bit with the boy and his grandmother.

Thanks again for the civility of this thread, and, again, it's not personnal.


KHAAAAAAAAAN!

As a canadian, and rabid US-basher, I have to say that it's not, completely, personnal when we make fun of you. We do, a lot, a whole lot. It's just that when you are next to such a powerful country that you are so closely allied too and disagree with so vastly, you feel a need to boost your own ego at their expense, and there is so much material made avalible. I, personnally, have very good friends who are, or consider themselves, american, and, except for the more extreme right-wingers, like you as a people.

I do find it both funny and sad that you, apparently, are not aware of how much we bash and make fun of you. Funny, because we do it so much and you seem to be oblivious, and sad, because we are so closely allied and you don't seem to have any sense of the sentiments of the majority of us, or our media and culture. Watch, if you can find a copy or an online source, Rick Mercer's special 'Talking To Americans', that was broadcast on the CBC. If you have any knowledge of us, you will find it hillairious, especially the bit with the boy and his grandmother.

Thanks again for the civility of this thread, and, again, it's not personnal.

I'm totally aware of the degree of US bashing, but I'm totally secure with myself and not terribly concerned about the opinions of those whom have such a desperate need to have their opinions known. You have a beautiful country and from my experience a good reputation for being decent, friendly and well intended people.
We certainly arent "oblivious"-its more like- it just doesnt matter.

and the most useless ! muhahah j/k i just had to make a crack at canada...why everyone makes fun of it i have no idea :confused:
Oh, really? What about Greenland? Eh? Eh? Find some use for that chunk of ice!

im soery but what are you on aboot, eh?
hehe. i love the way canadians talk. but im sort of getting over this conversation...

I always wondered where the 'aboot' thing came from... I honestly have never heard a person say 'aboot' in serious conversation. I think it's less that we say 'aboot' and more that Americans say 'abowt'. Or something. Now what's REALLY hilarious is to watch shows from the US that try to imitate a Canadian accent! :D

Oh, really? What about Greenland? Eh? Eh? Find some use for that chunk of ice!
Why is it called greenland? My understanding was that it was covered with snow and ice most of the time making it white. Was the name ment to be ironic?

Why is it called greenland? My understanding was that it was covered with snow and ice most of the time making it white. Was the name ment to be ironic?
The first Scandinavian settlers wanted to attract other settlers. It was pure marketing. Or so I've heard.

Meh. Meanwhile, trying to get back on topic:

Is it just me, or are American teenagers that dumb that they begin calling Liberals "evil Canadians?" Because that's what they call me at school. Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong country.

Why is it called greenland? My understanding was that it was covered with snow and ice most of the time making it white. Was the name ment to be ironic?

Greenland is icy. Iceland is green (but cold).

Meh. Meanwhile, trying to get back on topic:

Is it just me, or are American teenagers that dumb that they begin calling Liberals "evil Canadians?" Because that's what they call me at school. Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong country.
If you ask me, you were.... ;)

If you ask me, you were.... ;)

Meh. The scary part is, I actually intend to get out of this country- yes, I have made a personal goal to move to Canada after college.

Conservatives dislike Liberals.

Liberals dislike Bush

Liberals move to Canada. Conservatives take this as a chance to laugh at us.

Thats basically how it is unless its hockey. Then we call you a bunch of brutish hockey thugs.

I think that...
some Americans hate Canadians
some Canadians hate Americans
some Americans are indifferent to Canadians
some Canadians are indifferent to Americans
some Americans like Canadians
some Canadians like Americans
some Americans are Canadians
some Canadians are Americans
I don't know what I'm talking about anymore *falls asleep at computer*
Oh yeah, I remember my point...
Generalisations... they're bad.
Or something.

When I lived in Canada I heard tons. Many about how Canadians go to cuba cause Americans aren't allowed... Well, I'm dual between the two, so it doesn't matter to me. I can tease either... lol
One fact people don't generally know, Canada ,not the middle east, is the U.S. largest exporter of oil. Good Job we are not a muslim nation,just a friendly Anglo- saxon one EH. :D

Why is it called greenland? My understanding was that it was covered with snow and ice most of the time making it white. Was the name ment to be ironic?
I know! I know! There was a really big Scandinavian land shortage, and some Vikings found some more land, but it was really crap, so they were like "hmm, if we name it Greenland, then people will think it's nice, and when they find out that it's not, it'll be too late! Mwuhahahaha!" And then the people who went and settled there were like, "Hey, this was somewhat false advertising... what's all this snow doing here? Can't sunbathe in this weather..." But the other Vikings just sailed away cackling evilly.
It's kind of like when, in Russia, in an attempt to solve land hunger they sent lots of peasants to industrialise Siberia, but they all came back going, "it's crap!"
EXAAAACTLY THE SAME.
And yes, I am aware that Iztatepopotla has already made this point. But I wanted to join in.
All posts by me tonight will be very strange, based on... things.

PS: Kiosk is a Viking word.

Have worked with quite a few Canadians over here in Japan. I am a USian myself.
One of the nice things about working in Japan is that most of the PC/cultural sensitivity crap just doesn't matter over here and people are free to speak as they like and joke with one another.
Most Canadians and USians tease each other about their nations, laugh it off and have fun with it. I have never met a USian who hates Canada and have met only one Canadian who truly hates the US.
The one gal who really hates the US is just an annoying person and it has nothing to do with her being Canadian, she would certainly be the same in reverse if she were from the US. "In Canada we drink beer! In Canada we like hockey! ha ha ha, Stupid Americans. . . " These are really things she has suddenly announced in the teacher's room. Most people kinda look at her and are baffled, some of us want to slap her.

I agree with some previous posters that the media in both countries hype the dislike out of purportion.

I don't hate Canadians at all.

Except maybe Celine Dion.

But other than that...rock on my northern neighbors! :fluffle:

:rolleyes:

Like your opinion is the be all and end all of opinions...
If only all Canadians were as clever as you, then we'd go to Ottawa to see the shows instead of Vegas.

Hockey IS war.


ahmen to that brother

Hockey = War = Good= Hockey

Meh. Meanwhile, trying to get back on topic:

Is it just me, or are American teenagers that dumb that they begin calling Liberals "evil Canadians?" Because that's what they call me at school. Sometimes I think I was born in the wrong country.


as a High school teacher in the US I must say YES they are that dumb

We were just having a chat here about all the times in the media we have heard americans making fun of canadians......never the other way round for some reason!?...

Maybe some people could shed some light on this as some of us have been wondering for years where this all comes from?!...

Hey, my girlfreind makes fun of me all the time. But when I make fun of her Canadianess, I score more points cuz they're so much goofier...

i don't hate canadians. except the ones who have an inferiority complex and start threads about how bad the american education system is and how stupid we all are. and the native-born canadians at my school who always interject in U.S. history with comments like "What about canada?" and "We've got that too!" that annoys the hell out of me. otherwise, i think canada's fan-fucking-tastic.

edit: and their national sport (contrary to popular belief) is not hockey, it's lacrosse, which says lots for their excellent taste in sports. ;)

I can see how Canadians can be offended by the 'little brother' label. But that is what you are in a way, since Canada became a nation later. In fact, the U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand (tell me if I missed anyone) all came from the motherland, England. The U.S. literally being the oldest of the figurative "offspring".

The 'motherland' relationship is best described in the words of Homer Simpson. "We (U.S.) may not call as much as we should. And we don't always behave like our goody-to-shoes brother Canada, who by the way has never had a girlfriend...just sayin..." :D

I'd also like to add (to be even more offensive :D) that France is the "funny uncle" :eek:, and Ireland is the drunk uncle.

Is it just me or is Canada still part of America?

Canada: Americas annoying little brother.
Canada: the 51st state.
Canada: Strippers, beer at 19 and hookers! Alright!

And others follow...

ok, Canada is to the USA like a little brother. We can make fun of and beat up our little brother, but if anybody else messes with our little brother, they better get ready for the beatdown.

At least that's how I see it.

you know what canada is a gay country they dont help in anything i mean they think of it this way if its not gonna benifit them they wont do anything it does not matter because i guess it is ok for me and any other country to make fun if canada if we like because the U.S and all the other countries dont need them because they have never done anything to help anyone . :upyours:

Canada doesn't need nor want the US as a big brother, I'm not sure how many ways we can say it before Americans get it.


Need? Want? If the US sealed it's northern border, your economy would collapse inside a week. If the opposite happened, know what we'd say?

"Cana-who?"

Canada: Strippers, beer at 19 and hookers! Alright!
Actually 18 in some provinces.

Truth is, we love Canada. Cheaper beer, they make up most of our market, etc. We only dislike them when they decide to take a stand.

Kinda funny, we look at them as the kind of person that should be "seen but not heard." Which seem fair since their proximity to the US gurantees that they will never be invaded, at least until Social Security bankrupts the country in 2050, in which case they, and us, will be utterly destroyed.

:D Need? Want? If the US sealed it's northern border, your economy would collapse inside a week. If the opposite happened, know what we'd say?

"Cana-who?"

hahaHA! you can smell the burn!

Need? Want? If the US sealed it's northern border, your economy would collapse inside a week. If the opposite happened, know what we'd say?

"Cana-who?"

are u saying that the U.S goverment would collapse

In Minnesota we make fun of Iowans.

there is also the main issue that canadians dont screw with the domestic affairs of the entire world like the US gov't does.

True... They just screw with the Inuits, the Aleuts and Quebecois...

are u saying that the U.S goverment would collapse

are u high? he's saying that self-righteous canadians such as this one claim that they don't want or need the US, but that their economy would crash without ties to us.

Please stop confusing "US citizens" or "US-Americans" with "Americans" in general.

Ah yes... I love this arguement. "I'm Canadian, and that is part of North America, so I'm American too and you can't just refer to citizens of the US as Americans!"

I see... So, if I, as an US citizen, went to ANY other country in the world, what would they call me? Hmm... Certainly not 'American' since that is only one of the three major countries of the North American continant. And they would call a man from Brazil an American too, as he is from SOUTH America, No sir, can't call them Americans...

I've met many Americans in my dealings with work.
Most of them are nice. many even apologize to me about how their nation is to us.

Some are arrogant, offensive and racist. And the weird thing is all of the rotten Americans I've spoken to are from Texas, Georgia, Florida... that area. My favorite was the guy from Florida that says my country's media is filled with lies, even though he's never seen it, and he only watches Fox News.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying all people from that area are like that (I have friends down there and a lot of people I do like are from there), it's just that all my bad experiences come from people in that southeast area.

Canada doesn't need nor want the US as a big brother, I'm not sure how many ways we can say it before Americans get it.

Speak for yourself, dear. I love America.

And another reason why we don't take Canada seriously...This is from an Canadian (http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/comment/story.html?id=d0ee0f9d-2cda-491e-b603-ef6687df8318&page=1) editorial that asks what Canada should stand for, in foreign policy terms. The conclusion of piece is that they don't stand for much more than eye-wash, but this part was pretty funny on it's own.

That editorial is from the National Post, a right-leaning newspaper, just so you know.

Only in English can you call yourself American and mean a citizen of the United States of America. Un americano in Spanish means an American....in the sense of a person living in the Americas, North or South. That's the difference.

Babelfish the word 'American'...

And the only language I know well enough to comment on is Russian. Ya is baldah amerikii.

are u high? he's saying that self-righteous canadians such as this one claim that they don't want or need the US, but that their economy would crash without ties to us.


yes i am high so fuck off

We were just having a chat here about all the times in the media we have heard americans making fun of canadians......never the other way round for some reason!?...

Maybe some people could shed some light on this as some of us have been wondering for years where this all comes from?!...
You forget that it was our "enlightened" leaders in the liberal party (a.k.a. the dumbasses that love to screw over Canada in every way possible) that endangered our relations with the yanks by refering to them as idiots, etc... And many of the so called incidents of "americian media" mocking Canada have actually been cases of Canadians working in the media making these comments to help expose the general ignorance of the lower intelligence, and predujicial Americians.

yes i am high so fuck off

alright there buddy. don't try to talk politics when you're rocking the ganj, you'll just look dumb. :rolleyes:

Don't worry about...people in the US will argue until they're blue in the face that they should be called Americans because after all, people in the UK aren't called United Kingdomers....

That perhaps could be comparable if the UK was called United England, and the English took their name AFTER the fact....

Okay, I'll bite Twinky Nose, what SHOULD Americans call themselves? I await your most enlightened decree...

Its the other way around.
For the most part.

Most Canadians bash Americans (for the record, I am not one of them)

I think Americans think we are a small, insignificant nation.

Too bad, cuz we are not.

We're just lovable.
:D

I think the reason there is so much bashing of our neighbor across the border is because many americans see Canada as very similar to the US. Because of this, people exaggerate differences and make fun. It's just normal, and I wouldn't say people in the US hate Canada or vice versa.

I always wondered where the 'aboot' thing came from... I honestly have never heard a person say 'aboot' in serious conversation. I think it's less that we say 'aboot' and more that Americans say 'abowt'. Or something. Now what's REALLY hilarious is to watch shows from the US that try to imitate a Canadian accent! :D

I spent some time near Edmonton. The people in TO and Windsor have NOTHING of an accent compared to them!

In Minnesota we make fun of Iowans.

I have to. My girlfriend is Canadian. If I don't taunt her, how can we have make-up sex?

...
Canada
by: Five Iron Frenzy
welcome to canada
its the maple leaf state
canada, oh canada
its great
there people are nice and
they speak french too
if you don't like it man--you sniff glue
the great white north
their kilts are plaid
hosers take off
its not half bad
...

I love Five Iron Frenzy by the way.

In regards to the original poster of the thread, I don't think all Americans make jokes about Canada etc. Of course I live in Vermont, and we live right next to the Canadians, so we've got a tighter connection. In fact some people from Alberta came to my university to play NCAA Div 3 hockey on scholarship, and everybody treated them pretty cool I thought.

Making fun of Americans happens all the time in Canada. Hell there's even a TV special on CBC that does it: Rick Mercer's (http://home.comcast.net/~wwwstephen/americans/) Talking to Americans (http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/thismorning/sites/a&e/mercer_010330.html)

Canada doesn't need nor want the US as a big brother, I'm not sure how many ways we can say it before Americans get it.
And as a Canadian, I must strenuously disagree on both points.

What's there to hate? Canada does there thing, we do ours. It's just another country.

Americans don't hate Canadians. They just don't think of them. It's really only in online forums like this that Americans spend any time thinking about Canada or Canadians.

And that's usually when they decide, having given it some thought, that they don't like us a whole lot after all.

Americans don't hate Canadians. They just don't think of them. It's really only in online forums like this that Americans spend any time thinking about Canada or Canadians.

And that's usually when they decide, having given it some thought, that they don't like us a whole lot after all.

The last time I thought of Canada...other than online...was when I was six and was going to some theme park. So it's been a while. Yep, your right, we could careless.

Need? Want? If the US sealed it's northern border, your economy would collapse inside a week. If the opposite happened, know what we'd say?

"Cana-who?"
Sorry but if we close our southern borber, the US would collapse inside two weeks. Your claim is willfully ignorant of the close economic ties we share.

Besides, if you close your northern border, your own economy would drop to the tune of 40%.

I think that the main problems between the US and Canada are:

1) cigarettes
2) expensive defense systems
3) a particularly screwed-up version of French
4) parliamentarians stomping on dolls

These problems have resulted in the typical American thinking of Canadians as French-speaking rubes who will pay too much for cigarettes they shouldn't be smoking and too much for weapon systems they don't need. Americans also find the reaction of Canadians comical - once a Canadian finds out he's been taken advantage of, something silly inevitably happens.

Oddly, Canadians think of Americans as rubes who can't even speak French, who smoke cigarettes when they shouldn't and who spend billions on weapon systems so they can go leaping about the world like Jolly Green Giants with guns. Canadians are also amazed at the fact that the typical American never catches on to the fact that he's been taken advantage of.

That editorial is from the National Post, a right-leaning newspaper, just so you know.
Okay. Does that change the facts that are presented in the text I excerpted? It's still pretty sad to see the Canadian government try to dictate to the US in the area of self-defense.