NationStates Jolt Archive

Bill would ban abortion of gay fetuses. (http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43058)

Ok, so it's a bit of a scheme to make opponents appear to be either pro-gay or pro-abortion. Funny that it's coming from a Republican, although from what I hear maine has some pretty liberal republicans, because liberals shouldn't have to worry about appearaing to be too tolerant or liberal.

I have to wonder how a lot of religous conservatives will respond. Probably just retreat to the belief that it's a choice, but even that assertion has taken a pretty hard hit (http://www.wonkette.com/politics/culture-war/jerry-falwell-the-biggest-decision-of-his-life-026864.php) from the religous right this week.

If anyone can come up with a pithy slogan that exemplifies this position I think I'll try to dig up a "Veterans for Kerry" sticker and drive around conservative neighborhoods with both of them on my bumper. I predict an outcome resembling that of Mars Attacks.

They'd probably say that they don't believe a person can be born gay, and the law is pointless.

As a conservative, I'd have to say that human life trumps everything. It is sick for anyone to say that it is more important to keep gays from marrying than it is to keep people alive is simply sick.

They'd probably say that they don't believe a person can be born gay, and the law is pointless.

Ya, but like I said, even Falwell can't really defend that position. He tried pretty hard to dance around the question, but his tubby ass isn't too light on its feet.

Would liberals defend abortion of "gay fetuses," if they existed? There's your real dilemma. Seriously, if the mother's right to abort is so sacred, should she be allowed to test for the "gay gene," if it exists, and abort accordingly? There's your dilemma.

Assuming that some conservatives' opposition to gay marriage would lead them to want gays to die is partisan lunacy. I mean, maybe if we found the 'liberal gene,' that would be one thing, but.. ;)

No. You give birth to the fetus and then "accidentally" drop the infant two days later. Ergo, you didn't really "murder" it in the traditional sense.

If anyone can come up with a pithy slogan that exemplifies this position I think I'll try to dig up a "Veterans for Kerry" sticker and drive around conservative neighborhoods with both of them on my bumper. I predict an outcome resembling that of Mars Attacks.
Heh, that reminds me of last election's bumper sticker hijinx. I figured out that if I set up my printer to print out transparencies, I could get it to print on the proper sticky glossy paper for bumper stickers. My friends ended up with "Democrats for Bush!" and "Bush is a prick, but so am I! Bush 2004!" stickers, courtesy my limited and demented graphic design skills.
Hmm, I'm trying to remember some others...
I think one was "I'm Green, but I vote Democratbecause I'm too high to see the ballot" or something like that.

I engage in equal-opportunity bashing! I will find a fault in each and every political party and magnify it until nobody actually cares about the party and only about the fault. Then I'll make a killing off printing out shitty bumper stickers.

Assuming that some conservatives' opposition to gay marriage would lead them to want gays to die is partisan lunacy.
I think you kind of misphrased that sentence. I can tell what you mean to say, but with the use of "some" I'm just itching to point out some things I've heard from local religious groups about getting rid of homosexuality by any means.

I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade, but has anyone fact-checked this? It does seem to stretch suspension of disbelief just a little....

I had an idea to divide conservatives...but it was the exact opposite of this bill. My idea: mandatory abortions of gay fetuses (feti?). Introduce the legislation for the exclusive purpose of making conservatives cry. It'd force them to ask themselves who they hated more: homosexuals or abortionists.
I hope it would drive at least a few of them clinically insane.



-Disclaimer: I am a full supporter of gay rights and gay marriage. No one flame me. Please.

Would liberals defend abortion of "gay fetuses," if they existed? There's your real dilemma. Seriously, if the mother's right to abort is so sacred, should she be allowed to test for the "gay gene," if it exists, and abort accordingly? There's your dilemma.

Assuming that some conservatives' opposition to gay marriage would lead them to want gays to die is partisan lunacy. I mean, maybe if we found the 'liberal gene,' that would be one thing, but.. ;)

Liberals favor reproductive rights and so they would favor abortions for whatever reason. They also favor the right to be gay which religous conservatives do not. I'm not refering to the rather widespread position of "what people do in their own home is their business but don't go redefining our traditional institutions." I'm talking about the people who joined Pat Robertson in his thinly veiled religious terrorism of a call for his listeners to pray for God to 'move against' two of the Supreme Court justices who ruled that no state has the right to ban any kind of sex.

... My idea: mandatory abortions of gay fetuses (feti?). Introduce the legislation for the exclusive purpose of making conservatives cry. It'd force them to ask themselves who they hated more: homosexuals or abortionists.

:headbang: Argh! Don't fall into their linguistic trap. Only Bill Maher and a handful of Chinese government ministers are abortionists. They (the Chinese ministers, not Bill Maher) coerce women into having abortions that they don't want. An abortionist is one who encrourages the reluctant to have abortions, not one who insists on the option being available to those who need it. The rest of us are pro-choice.

I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade, but has anyone fact-checked this? It does seem to stretch suspension of disbelief just a little....

Not really. It's not intended to actually go anywhere, politicians put bills like this up for a vote all the time. Usually no one pays attention. It then becomes a weapon in the next election.

Something like a bill that would provide a $100,000 dollars to fund a traveling Maplethorpe exhibit and $2000 to fund breast cancer. If the politician votes for it he's pro-pervert and wants to spend 50 times more money on gay porn than on breast cancer research. If he votes against it he's just voting against breast cancer research. Think about that next time a politician says that his opponent is "pro-child pornography, pro-drugs, anti-children," and pretends that his voting record will prove it.

I think you kind of misphrased that sentence. I can tell what you mean to say, but with the use of "some" I'm just itching to point out some things I've heard from local religious groups about getting rid of homosexuality by any means.

You mean like this? (http://www.godhatesfags.com/)

Bill would ban abortion of gay fetuses. (http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43058)

Ok, so it's a bit of a scheme to make opponents appear to be either pro-gay or pro-abortion. Funny that it's coming from a Republican, although from what I hear maine has some pretty liberal republicans, because liberals shouldn't have to worry about appearaing to be too tolerant or liberal.

I have to wonder how a lot of religous conservatives will respond. Probably just retreat to the belief that it's a choice, but even that assertion has taken a pretty hard hit (http://www.wonkette.com/politics/culture-war/jerry-falwell-the-biggest-decision-of-his-life-026864.php) from the religous right this week.

If anyone can come up with a pithy slogan that exemplifies this position I think I'll try to dig up a "Veterans for Kerry" sticker and drive around conservative neighborhoods with both of them on my bumper. I predict an outcome resembling that of Mars Attacks.
It's not a contradiction, as conservatives don't want gay people to DIE! We disagree with gay marriage, but unlike you liberals, we don't make the leap from disagreement to an urge to murder. (Look at what they say about Dubya.)

You mean like this? (http://www.godhatesfags.com/)
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Augh. Not him again...

EDIT:
A choice quote:
For those of you who have deluded yourselves into thinking that the story of Sodom isn't really talking about homosexuals, read the following: the people of Sodom and Gomorrah had completely turned away from God, and whenever that happens, homosexuality abounds.
Because we know that most atheists are gay.
:rolleyes:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Augh. Not him again...

EDIT:
A choice quote:

Because we know that most atheists are gay.
:rolleyes:

Take a look at "the Pink Swastika." According to that ministry any religion other than Christianity, Judaism, or Islam actualy require homosexuality as part of religous services. That would include Japanese Shintoism, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. I saw Kama Sutra and I don't remember that scene.

No. You give birth to the fetus and then "accidentally" drop the infant two days later. Ergo, you didn't really "murder" it in the traditional sense.

wow...your location truly is hell, you are one sick individual....