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God owes us an apology?

Vangaardia
27-02-2005, 22:14
http://www.progressive.org/march05/ehren0305.php

Very well written piece freethinkers will like it.
Texan Hotrodders
27-02-2005, 22:20
http://www.progressive.org/march05/ehren0305.php

Very well written piece freethinkers will like it.

Why exactly do you think that "freethinkers" will like it?
Corneliu
27-02-2005, 22:25
God doesn't owe us an apology,

we owe God an apology.
Karatz
27-02-2005, 22:27
The world has sinned and 12/26 was just punishment. ;)
Religion is a peculiar institution because there are so many that claim they are right. My personal opinion is that God is nature and therefore all powerful. God is just an explanation for things and religion is a guide to having a functional society.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that religion and God are paradoxical while using paradoxes in my own argument as was done in the article.
Sdaeriji
27-02-2005, 22:27
I get the feeling that God won't be issuing one any time soon.
Vittos Ordination
27-02-2005, 22:29
My thoughts are very expensive, and I will not waste precious capital on God articles. (Godicles?)
Mondoth
27-02-2005, 22:33
that's not the sort of thing freethinkers like, that's the sort of thing people who like to make-believe that they're freethinkers like. Freethinkers actively (well, as active as freethinkers get anyway) despise the people who make-believe that they're freethinkers.

Here's a hint, anything with words like; progressive, libertarian, liberal, conservative, god, christian, satan, buddha, allah and words with similiar connotations attached, usually is not the product of freethinking, although the religinous words are debatable, the blatantly political ones are definately not the work of freethinkers.
Naryna
27-02-2005, 22:34
Didn't think much of the main body of that, but she had a point in the last paragraph...
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 22:39
God bought me a hat once. It didn't fit, so I returned it and bought a hat that fit. I hope none of you guys tell God though. The hat I bought in replacement of the one that didn't fit was a different color. Fuschia doesn't match with anything. God must be colorblind.
Tamarket
27-02-2005, 22:47
I get the feeling that God won't be issuing one any time soon.

Neither do it. It's difficult for a fictional being to do anything in real life. Then again, it's easy for humans to put words into his mouth. ;)

We owe god nothing, because we didn't choose to be born, even if he did exist.
Silly Sharks
27-02-2005, 22:55
What the hell does medi-vac mean?
Nadkor
27-02-2005, 22:57
how does a non existant fictional being apologise? :confused:
Corneliu
27-02-2005, 22:58
What the hell does medi-vac mean?

Medical Evacuation!
Neo-Anarchists
27-02-2005, 23:00
Perhaps the apology owes us to God?
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:01
We owe god nothing, because we didn't choose to be born, even if he did exist.The easiest way to stick it an insolent creator for creating you at your own disadvantage is to kill yourself. I once saw this guy kill himself in front of God. Gee, God was P.O.'ed when that guy did that. MAN ALIVE!


I hear that you parents are also responsible for your existence, so you can blame them too for everything that's going on in the world or yourself that you don't like. You can also blame genetics, the government, money, the media, society, and Indonesia, but what's it really going to do for you. Suicide is simply the answer. No one knows your troubles because obviously since you were created against your will you have nothing which to relate to the average man who is quite happy being alive. SUICIDE IS THE ANSWER MY FRIEND! LET'S ALL COMMIT SUICIDE!
Dementedus_Yammus
27-02-2005, 23:06
only part of the article worth reading:

as the Catholic priests like to remind us, "He's a 'mystery' "--though that's never stopped them from pronouncing His views on abortion with absolute certainty.

the rest has been said.

and many times, at that
Neo-Anarchists
27-02-2005, 23:06
SUICIDE IS THE ANSWER MY FRIEND! LET'S ALL COMMIT SUICIDE!
Hell yeah! Let's start a cult!
I'll go get the cyanide-laced Kool-Aid.
Gamma 2435 Regime
27-02-2005, 23:09
God doesn't owe us an apology,

we owe God an apology.
I agree with that-we have defied God for a long time (by sinning) and he punished us with a tsunami that barely even scratches the whole entire world's population.
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:10
Hell yeah! Let's start a cult!
I'll go get the cyanide-laced Kool-Aid.Kool-Aid is for minors. I'm having my cyanide with a bottle of Bacardi 151.
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:12
I agree with that-we have defied God for a long time (by sinning) and he punished us with a tsunami that barely even scratches the whole entire world's population.Just like God to use symbols. You know he tried to write a book once. It didn't work out. He spent the whole thing working in metaphor and there were eight thousand pages worth of illustration. Half of the images were of Zeus turning into a goose and molesting fair maidens. God is such an awful author.
Nadkor
27-02-2005, 23:13
SUICIDE IS THE ANSWER MY FRIEND! LET'S ALL COMMIT SUICIDE!
*kills self*

well, i feel much better now ive done that :)
The WYN starcluster
27-02-2005, 23:17
Perhaps the apology owes us to God?

In Soviet Russia ...
Heiligkeit
27-02-2005, 23:18
I agree with that-we have defied God for a long time (by sinning) and he punished us with a tsunami that barely even scratches the whole entire world's population.

Your saying god=zeus
Nova Hope
27-02-2005, 23:20
I’m sorry there must be a reformation in this cult. It is my belief that arsenic enrages god more; so we, all those who are following me and I, have to hate you now and make snide comments behind your back.

Possibly move to another land mass.

Yup; suicide death cult on mars.
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:22
I’m sorry there must be a reformation in this cult. It is my belief that arsenic enrages god more; so we, all those who are following me and I, have to hate you now and make snide comments behind your back.

Possibly move to another land mass.

Yup; suicide death cult on mars.I'll give you twenty bucks if you change your mind. I'll also take arsenic for you to stick around. It's not the poison that matters. It's the dying, and we really should all kill ourselves.

By the way, how is Mars this time of the year?
Nadkor
27-02-2005, 23:23
By the way, how is Mars this time of the year?
red
Heiligkeit
27-02-2005, 23:24
I'll give you twenty bucks if you change your mind. I'll also take arsenic for you to stick around. It's not the poison that matters. It's the dying, and we really should all kill ourselves.

By the way, how is Mars this time of the year?

On a more serious note, is suicide the answer o life's problems. Most teenagers commit suicide because there is something in their life that they hate. They can't get rid of it, no matter what they do. They don't wan tto die, but suicide seems the only way to get rid of it. :sniper: They kill thenselves.
Vangaardia
27-02-2005, 23:24
Kool-Aid is for minors. I'm having my cyanide with a bottle of Bacardi 151.


Now that would be a sin ;) Do not become drunk with wine. I guess though if you want to be technical it never does say do not get drunk with rum :p
Neo-Anarchists
27-02-2005, 23:26
Kool-Aid is for minors.
Hey, we wouldn't want the kids to miss out on the apocalyptic fun, would we?
I'm having my cyanide with a bottle of Bacardi 151.
That works too!
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:26
Now that would be a sin ;) Do not become drunk with wine. I guess though if you want to be technical it never does say do not get drunk with rum :pI've never been drunk. I hit your mother because she was sassing me.
Omni-Psychotia
27-02-2005, 23:32
the rest has been said.

and many times, at that

That's all too true. The problem is: everything's been said, but no one has listened.
So, instead of a mass suicide, why don't we kill each other? It could be a party game! Last one alive gets the poisoned 151.
Mister Fain
27-02-2005, 23:33
[Stuff about hats.] God must be colorblind.

The new slogan for racial harmony!
Badnarik42
27-02-2005, 23:33
God exists to exsplain what science cannot. Just in case you havent noteced, the Greeks thought that the seasons changed because of the gods. And just about everything else happened by Zeus's will. Now God just exsplains creation and the afterlife. At least he should. We have proof that the Tetonic plates cause earthquakes, and the tsunami. So it wasn''t God. The only problem is that Religion has stopped conceiding to science. So we have problems.

But if you disagree you can always kill yourself. Help bring back natural selection!!!!!!
Heiligkeit
27-02-2005, 23:33
That's all too true. The problem is: everything's been said, but no one has listened.
So, instead of a mass suicide, why don't we kill each other? It could be a party game! Last one alive gets the poisoned 151.

Start an apocolypse?
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:36
Start an apocolypse?First dibs on dressing up like Dr. Doom!

On a side note, God likes pie. No one can disagree with this, lest God smite them with Heavenly rage and slices of Key Lime!
Heiligkeit
27-02-2005, 23:38
First dibs on dressing up like Dr. Doom!

On a side note, God likes pie. No one can disagree with this, lest God smite them with Heavenly rage and slices of Key Lime!

God is a divine figure. He cannot take in human substances.
Neo-Anarchists
27-02-2005, 23:40
On a side note, God likes pie. No one can disagree with this, lest God smite them with Heavenly rage and slices of Key Lime!
I know, last time I disagreed with Him on this He struck me with holy fire and damned me to the Tenth Circle, the lesser-known lowest circle for those who disagree with the Lord on his liking or disliking of pie. I then got to spend eternity baking apple pies for Him. Luckily, He let me out on good conduct in time to see the Apocalypse. It happened last week, if you didn't notice. Rather spectacular, really, but it was invite-only. Too bad.
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:40
God is a divine figure. He cannot take in human substances.Who says he eats it, plebian?!?! :rolleyes:
Heiligkeit
27-02-2005, 23:42
Who says he eats it, plebian?!?! :rolleyes:

I'm not a plebian. I never said eat. I said 'take in'/absorb.
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:43
I'm not a plebian. I never said eat. I said 'take in'/absorb.Wouldn't that go against the purpose setting up a Pecan Pie display case in front his throne? Jeez, man. You're really not getting this!
Subterfuges
27-02-2005, 23:47
Since there is God, and you are not. Things are definitely not going to go the way you imagined. If things go the way you imagined, it would be hell.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
27-02-2005, 23:47
And in the land of Sevorbeupstry, they came to the Great Red Plain of Rars, which was bounded on the South side by the Quentulus Quazgar Mountains, on the further side of which, according to the dying words of Prak, they would find in thirty- foot-high letters of fire God's Final Message to His Creation.

"WE APOLOGISE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE"
Heiligkeit
27-02-2005, 23:49
God sits on a throne?

Christianity is sounding just like pagan gods.
Nephiona and Friends
27-02-2005, 23:53
Since there is God, and you are not. Things are definitely not going to go the way you imagined. If things go the way you imagined, it would be hell.HEARSAY! HAPPENSTANCE!

God sits on a throne?

Christianity is sounding just like pagan gods.You would think that, wouldn't you? :rolleyes:
Heiligkeit
27-02-2005, 23:55
I am agnostic. Of course I would.

Zeus, white beard=God, white beard
Zeus, throne=God, throne
Zeus uses nature to punish=God uses nature to punish
Zeus gives birth to half-gods=God gives birth to Jesus

There's a lot more
Nephiona and Friends
28-02-2005, 00:00
I am agnostic. Of course I would.

Zeus, white beard=God, white beard
Zeus, throne=God, throne
Zeus uses nature to punish=God uses nature to punish
Zeus gives birth to half-gods=God gives birth to Jesus

There's a lot moreYou forgot the part about God wearing a totally sweet sombrero.

Also lets not have silly opinions and ideas infect the lovely stupidity going on here. It'd really be a shame to waste such good momentum.
International Terrans
28-02-2005, 00:00
God doesn't owe us an apology,

we owe God an apology.
Amen to that.
Ankher
28-02-2005, 00:04
What god owes who is irrelevant. The only thing important is that Man does not not owe anything to any god.
International Terrans
28-02-2005, 00:05
What god owes who is irrelevant. The only thing important is that Man does not not owe anything to any god.
That kind of attitude, good sir, will get you smitten ;)
Nephiona and Friends
28-02-2005, 00:07
http://www.ediblebrain.com/wallpaper/krishna-butter-1024x768.jpg

That's just out of hand!