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...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(

Gets a bat to hit the first person to say 42.

I exist. That's pretty much my reason for living.

...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(
Sod it. If you can't do anything for the world, don't. Just give a bit to charity every so often, or something. That way you know you did something that was almost nice.

42 *uses p0w0rz to make self immune to Seosavits's bat*

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ahhhhhhh 42

I don't know that I can answer your question, since I have asked myself the same question. I can't have kids and it seems pretty likely that I won't even be able to adopt. I can't work, so I often feel like I am just a drain on society. (I'm not on welfare or disability - my husband supports me.) When I say this to him, he tells me that even though I don't earn a paycheck, or do volunteer work or whatever, I am important to him and others who know me. Still sounds pretty lame, hey?

But the thing that keeps me going is the thought that maybe I won't know my purpose on this earth until the end of my life when I can look back and see the good that I did, whatever that may be. Still sounds a bit hokey, but I guess I think life may just be a mystery, so I'm waiting to find out the answer.

All of existence, from the Big Bang, to the formation of tiny single-celled creatures, to the genesis of humanity has led up to the single most important event: me

Worship at your leisure.

Sod it. If you can't do anything for the world, don't. Just give a bit to charity every so often, or something. That way you know you did something that was almost nice.
gah i don't particularly want do do anything for the world or anything heroic like that, i just don't want to simply 'exist'. for some reason i still search for a meaning, and its becoming ever more apparent that there is none whatsoever. helping others would be something to give a reason, but i realise how futile it is, especially in the long run.

I don't know that I can answer your question, since I have asked myself the same question. I can't have kids and it seems pretty likely that I won't even be able to adopt. I can't work, so I often feel like I am just a drain on society. (I'm not on welfare or disability - my husband supports me.) When I say this to him, he tells me that even though I don't earn a paycheck, or do volunteer work or whatever, I am important to him and others who know me. Still sounds pretty lame, hey?

doesn't sound at all lame - i have my parents say that to me, as i have no wife/gf. its pretty much the only thing that keeps me grounded here at the moment :(

[QUOTE=Pure Metal]gah i don't particularly want do do anything for the world or anything heroic like that, i just don't want to simply 'exist'. for some reason i still search for a meaning, and its becoming ever more apparent that there is none whatsoever. helping others would be something to give a reason, but i realise how futile it is, especially in the long run.[QUOTE]
Sorry, I haven't explained myself very well. Do little things to improve the world, until you find a purpose. It's not a "hero" thing, it's a "good human being" thing.

...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(


If you believe this then you are correct. I would suggest not believing this. The truth of the matter is the "point" is ANYTHING you want to make it. Your future and your destiny are in your hands.

You may choose to do nothing or you may choose to be purposeful. Life only has the meaning YOU give to it. If you give a poor negative meaning than that is what you shall get.

Goals are important, figure out what it is you want to accomplish what POINT you want to make. Then set out to accomplish that goal in life.

Life is what YOU make of it. Nothing more nothing less. I would suggest taking the path of ubermensch and being the best you can be for you and for the rest of your fellow humans.

*gets ready to run from Seosavits's bat* 42

I don't know that I can answer your question, since I have asked myself the same question. I can't have kids and it seems pretty likely that I won't even be able to adopt. I can't work, so I often feel like I am just a drain on society. (I'm not on welfare or disability - my husband supports me.) When I say this to him, he tells me that even though I don't earn a paycheck, or do volunteer work or whatever, I am important to him and others who know me. Still sounds pretty lame, hey?

But the thing that keeps me going is the thought that maybe I won't know my purpose on this earth until the end of my life when I can look back and see the good that I did, whatever that may be. Still sounds a bit hokey, but I guess I think life may just be a mystery, so I'm waiting to find out the answer.

Not lame at all, in fact quite admirable. Sometime one cannot see the forest through the trees.
It is clear that your husband "contributes" but if he says he needs you to "contribute" then you are indeed contributing. You are an enabling force. Encouraging others perhaps is your "point" or mission in life.

If you encourage and lift others then you are not only not a drain but a valueable asset to society. Encouraging your husband is an admirable and worthy accomplishment. NEVER allow anyone to discredit you. Your accomplishments are your own.

If you want stronger sense of purpose then encourage and lift others in your network. People always need uplifting to combat the fatigue of the negative.

Sooner or later, our sun is going to expand and swallow every single last human accomplishment. The best we can currently hope for is that someone else out there might happen upon one of our probes and find it a quaint archaeological oddity.

It's my purpose in life to do what I can to change this. We need to get off our behinds and get off this rock and out there where we belong. One big natural disaster or crazy cause with enough funding is all it will take to wipe humanity from the history of the universe.

I don't want a universe that never heard the words of Shakespeare or the music of Bach. Everyone has something that they hold as the pinnacle of human achievement, though what that something is generally varies a great deal from person to person. Whatever you choose, imagine a universe without it. That thought depresses the hell out of me. So I seek to change it.

It's all a matter of producing enough energy. With sufficient energy we can survive as a species even past the ending of this universe.

We've done some truly amazing things as a species. And we've done some terribly horrendous things as well. But if we don't live on it was all completely meaningless.

Anyways, that's my shtick. Probably a little depressing. But I prefer to see it as guardedly hopeful. :)

The universe doesn't have a planned structure. Life itself is simply a replicating chemical reaction and only evolved to such an extent because of the refining nature of the way it progresses.
A while ago this bothered me, but then I asked myself why it bothered me and I realized it was because of the way my life is. Happy people harldy ever wonder about the meaning of life, so it is probably best to aim for that.

...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(
Eat some chocolate. It usually helps.


Look, I made an FAQ for you: :D

Q: Life, universe and everything?
A: 42

Being of the 'Angsty teen' stereotype myself, this question has wandered across my mind, used to all the time in secondary school. Just wondered what the hell was the point in me living, wasn't suicidal or anything, just wondered about my place and my point. But since I left there and started college a year and a half ago I havn't thought about it at all, the reason being that when I last thought it out I came out with the answer I needed, which was this:

The point to life is happiness, there is no great thing to be done, no prize for the most accomplished when it comes down to it. Just go through it all trying to make yourself and those that you care about as happy as possible, without causing misery for anyone else of course. Its cheesy, but it works for me :) hope this helps

There is a quote by George orwell that goes something like "Men are only happy when they don't consider the point of living is happiness" probabbly got it wrong but its along those lines anyway...

Life doesn't have a point. So what? Enjoy yourself! It really doesn't matter why you exist, but you do, and you might as well enjoy the experience while you have it.

lol i just figured it out! i feel like i've been put through the Total Perspective Vortex!! :p

...and unfortunatley i'm not Zaphod :(



i feel like i have seen the depressing truth, and that others are simply hiding from it under a veil of ignorance and self-deception.

It really doesn't matter why you exist, but you do, and you might as well enjoy the experience while you have it.
I do not agree. You don't really exist. We exist only in the mind of Jesussaves. Woot woot.

i feel like i have seen the depressing truth, and that others are simply hiding from it under a veil of ignorance and self-deception.
The veil is actually pretty comfortable, why don't you join us?

My reasons for being are pretty simple. Live, love, enjoy and try to make sure your fellow man gets to do the same.

The veil is actually pretty comfortable, why don't you join us?
i'd love to :D maybe i will in a few years or something


people have said that the point is what you make of it or to be happy. i can't really think of anything - any goal - to set as my 'point', and happiness comes in so many different forms. should i just go out and shoot up some heroin to be happy for a while? should i stop caring about my uni work and just give up on it all together? that would make me happier i think. on a day-to-day basis, fulfilling happiness is not that easy.



ps: cheers for trying, y'all :)

i'd love to :D maybe i will in a few years or something


people have said that the point is what you make of it or to be happy. i can't really think of anything - any goal - to set as my 'point', and happiness comes in so many different forms. should i just go out and shoot up some heroin to be happy for a while? should i stop caring about my uni work and just give up on it all together? that would make me happier i think. on a day-to-day basis, fulfilling happiness is not that easy.



ps: cheers for trying, y'all :)
It's hopeless.
Completely hopeless.

...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(
Others here are also giving good advice, but for me the clue to your answer is in the words of your question that I've highlighted. Adjust your perspective. Acknowledge your humanity. (Watch some Star Trek.)

Or, in keeping with both your NS name and your knowledge of economics, answer truthfully this question: What is the value of gold?

There is no fixed meaning of life. We are just collections of cells brought about by random chance. Due to the infinite nature of the Universe, we are completely insignificant. If the theory that in an infinite universe everything even remotely possible must have happened is true, we must accept that there is always a bigger fish, as it were.
Even here on Earth, most of us either are or will be completely insignificant, just a faceless drone among billions of other faceless drones.

And that is what gives life its meaning. The fact that there is no ultimate answer means that we are free to choose our own meaning of life. It is like, for example, an essay where you can write about whatever you want and there are no wrong answers. Go out and do whatever the hell you want. The lack of an answer is something to be embraced, because it means that no-one can be a failure.

42 *uses p0w0rz to make self immune to Seosavits's bat*
*Hits him anyway doesn't work*
So thats why he's called super-power!
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ahhhhhhh 42
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*gets ready to run from Seosavits's bat* 42
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Q: Life, universe and everything?
A: 42
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The point of life? To make the most of it. To enjoy it. It varies on the person. Personally I want to help people, give people hope etc through becoming a therapist/counsellor/social worker. Other people may want to experience all the things the world offers. Others may want to be financially succesful. Others may want to have loads of friends, find true love etc. You'll figure out what you want from life at some point but in the meanwhile make the most of the fact you are alive.

And no-one is meaningless or insignificant. Every day, with every person you meet and every decision you make, you affect people, affect the world. Without you, your friends may have no reason to live. Without you, your parents may have an unfulfilled life. Without you, a teacher may have resigned from their job. Without you, a shopkeeper may have stayed in a grumpy mood and been mean to every customer for the rest of the day.

Also, you should never give up hope on life because you don't know what is round the corner, who you'll meet, what oppurtunity you'll be given, how you'll help someone, what happiness will be brought your way....

What is 6 multiplied by 7 Alex.

Others here are also giving good advice, but for me the clue to your answer is in the words of your question that I've highlighted. Adjust your perspective. Acknowledge your humanity. (Watch some Star Trek.)

Or, in keeping with both your NS name and your knowledge of economics, answer truthfully this question: What is the value of gold?
gold has no value but that placed upon it. it is of course a more scarce resource than most, so this will be higher than most resources... what has this to do with anything (am i missing some kind of hidden meaning :confused: )

and i looove star trek. that must be why i'm feeling down - haven't watched enough voyager recently :cool: :D

The point of life? To make the most of it. To enjoy it. It varies on the person. Personally I want to help people, give people hope etc through becoming a therapist/counsellor/social worker. Other people may want to experience all the things the world offers. Others may want to be financially succesful. Others may want to have loads of friends, find true love etc. You'll figure out what you want from life at some point but in the meanwhile make the most of the fact you are alive.

And no-one is meaningless or insignificant. Every day, with every person you meet and every decision you make, you affect people, affect the world. Without you, your friends may have no reason to live. Without you, your parents may have an unfulfilled life. Without you, a teacher may have resigned from their job. Without you, a shopkeeper may have stayed in a grumpy mood and been mean to every customer for the rest of the day.

Also, you should never give up hope on life because you don't know what is round the corner, who you'll meet, what oppurtunity you'll be given, how you'll help someone, what happiness will be brought your way....
wize words, cheers Glitz and all. feeling better now :)

i feel like i have seen the depressing truth, and that others are simply hiding from it under a veil of ignorance and self-deception.

What depressing about it? There is no point, but all the best things are entirely pointless. Art, for example. Video games. Time off. The idea that there's no point in existence itself isn't a bad thing; think of it as a 70 year holiday in reality before you die.

The point in life is to make yourself happy and live a life you enjoy. Find someone you love, see some good movies (like the Hitchhikers Guide when it comes out!!) find a job you enjoy, and... get happy.

You know, when ever I'm pigging out on junkfood, I tell people I know I'll get fat when I get older, but I also tell them I believe in the phrase "Fat and Happy"

Have you time to lighten your spirits if you've given up on there being any hope. And go get a hug from someone, cause hugs are just that nifty

Hugs are good, it's true. Perhaps they are the point, after all?

And go get a hug from someone, cause hugs are just that nifty
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That's the spirit! :fluffle:

That's the spirit! :fluffle:
:fluffle: its a miracle cure! :p

gold has no value but that placed upon it. it is of course a more scarce resource than most, so this will be higher than most resources... what has this to do with anything (am i missing some kind of hidden meaning :confused: )
Wrong. (You fell for my cunningly laid economics trap. Mwahahaha!)

Gold is an extemely useful metal. It possesses many great qualities: it is virtually incorruptable, it's about the best electrical conductor there is and it's extremely maleable. Even if it was so common you could wander along to your local beach and dig the stuff out by the handful, it would still be valuable. Just because it's value is over-inflated by social convention doesn't mean that it has no 'real' value.

The moral's an easy one. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just because you can't achieve everything, doesn't mean you can't achieve anything. (Can I add 'little grasshopper' here? :p )

Finding the point of things can be an iterative process.
and i looove star trek. that must be why i'm feeling down - haven't watched enough voyager recently :cool: :D

Cool indeed. Now let's get out there and make a difference, people. :D

Silly people don't you know that none of this exists, except for in my own mind. None of you are real!!!

Umm... other then that, just enjoy life. It doesn't need a point or reason, it just is. Enjoy it while you got it. Obviously people can't enjoy every minute of life and some days are harder then others, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy life over-all.

I'm proud to be the first one to say: God. That's the meaning of life. I don't care what you believe, but it's what I believe. The only reason living for me is to please God and make him happy, and my happiness comes in that. If you think life has no point, look into religion. I'm not telling you to look into a specific religion, just that you might want to look into it. Read The Purpose Driven Life, by Rick Warren. It might help you, it helped me realize the point of life, and it could help you.

...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(
Does this help:

1. Humanity as a whole, and each of us individually, is an inseparable part of all that lives.

2. Human beings can positively influence changes in other living things through prayer and meditation ( empirically proven! ), and are, so far as we know, the only living things which can do so.

3. Having this ability imposes upon us responsibility toward other living things.

4. Therefore one of the primary purposes of human beings, and of each human life, is to protect and nurture life in all its forms.

Eee... Nyuuuurrrghhh...




42.

Ah, well.

All I'll do is reiterate what the other people have said. I've questioned things at times. I've always been a thinker (I actually think that I over-think, but now that I think about it maybe I don't... or maybe I do)...

The best piece of advice I can give: don't let your life go by. Live each day on its own merits; face the challenges.

We are challenged, so that we might grow.

I'm proud to be the first one to say: God. That's the meaning of life. I don't care what you believe, but it's what I believe. The only reason living for me is to please God and make him happy, and my happiness comes in that. If you think life has no point, look into religion. I'm not telling you to look into a specific religion, just that you might want to look into it. Read The Purpose Driven Life, by Rick Warren. It might help you, it helped me realize the point of life, and it could help you.


How can I put this without offending anyone? Ah, yes.... Bullshit. Without a solid basis for the existence of God, which is impossible to achieve, this cannot be taken as the reason for being. So let's look a little deeper into the matter rather than trying to pin everything on bloody God, can we?

Does this help:

1. Humanity as a whole, and each of us individually, is an inseparable part of all that lives.

2. Human beings can positively influence changes in other living things through prayer and meditation ( empirically proven! ), and are, so far as we know, the only living things which can do so.

3. Having this ability imposes upon us responsibility toward other living things.

4. Therefore one of the primary purposes of human beings, and of each human life, is to protect and nurture life in all its forms.

Does anyone else ever get the feeling that Eutrusca's actually Yoda?

Does anyone else ever get the feeling that Eutrusca's actually Yoda?
If Yoda was younger and unadmittedly biased otrawrds the dark side, yes.

If Yoda was younger and unadmittedly biased otrawrds the dark side, yes.

What the hell is this supposed to mean?

Well, I know a LOT of people are going to disagree with me here but I think that life does have a point. So far this thread has been very depressing because most of the posters are existentialists. (We are here and that's the point.) I personally believe that our purpose is to worship the God who created us. That is the point. I know most of you won't be able to identify with that right now.
But religion aside, it seems like a universe so big should have a point - otherwise, why don't we just toss out all of our laws and anarchaically do whatever we want? (Is that a word?) I think the only reason we don't do that is because of a stablizing force, God, who expresses Himself through Christianity.
And if you want to really get detailed, I believe that the world will ultimately attempt to reject that stabilizing force which will bring about Armageddon, of course my views will surely provide much ammunition for some of the humanist posters, but I think it's important for them to think about the possibilities even if they disagree with them.

Does anyone else ever get the feeling that Eutrusca's actually Yoda?
ROFLMAO! Correct you are not. Change your position you must. :D

...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(

My view exactly, nothing you do will matter, so you can do just as you please. That or plan a large military coup to sieze power in whatever country you live in and start doing what todays politicians cannot...

I do both...

What the hell is this supposed to mean?

Cow's just doing his 'Eutrusca's trying to poison all our minds with his foul Republican hate thoughts' thing again. Just because Eutrusca's politics are completely and totally wrong ( ;) ) doesn't make him evil, I_Hate_Cows. He's not a bad dude, for a Rep.

wize words, cheers Glitz and all. feeling better now :)

I am very wise :p Hehe, my pleasure. Glad you feel better :) and just to make you feel ever better... :fluffle:

I am very wise :p Hehe, my pleasure. Glad you feel better :) and just to make you feel ever better... :fluffle:
w00t! :fluffle: :fluffle:

42.

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Life is equal parts contemplation and living for the moment.

Life is your child in your arms, and your first kiss, and your first crushing defeat.

Life is the crippled man that makes you weep and the world class runner that makes you weep.

Life is your unexpected laugh and your will extended through our shared future.

The instant-ever-extending-infintessimal impact of you flavors the totality-extension-through-humanity of you.

Humans are the being whose existence can master time.

Neglect neither now or then: timelessness is the answer to your question.

hmmm... cryptic...

Hmm, perhaps that is, and ragged verse isn't the right way of communicating it.

The point to human existence (and indeed how can any of us even get a handle on that varied and immensely complex subject, much less to state categorically about other existences) is to be purely and utterly an authentic human.

Summum bonum (the supreme good) has been the landscape upon which some of the greatest minds in our limited history have painted. Their thoughts, logic and feelings on the matter have occupied thousands of tomes, millions of human hours. To sum it up for a single individual of whom I have only the merest wisp of a personality to lend an ear is perhaps impossible.

So let's theorize.

You're young; you seek answers; you have started to glimpse a humanity that exists beyond you, but still - not too far.

The first step to being an authentic self is to know yourself and bear an unflinching eye upon your own person. Nike ads and military commercials do a crappy job of communicating this idea but they attempt to grasp this question: what is the nature of your identity and how can you improve upon it? "Just do it", "be all that you can be" are pathetic imitations of this premise. It extends to much more than simple temporal immediacy.

In order to bear this unflinching eye you will need first: a habit of recognizing the truth. Self-delusion is one of the first habits your ego gains when it compares itself to the world. It is the center of your world as a nascent human - most people never really shed it, because it is so useful in dealing with the enormity and expansiveness of everything. It must go.

Until you know yourself, you'll never be able to truly better yourself. It's really that simple. This process can take very little time, or decades depending upon the will you put towards the effort. Do not confuse this process with anything people sell you, help you, or who do your heavy lifting : therapy, gestalt, bible study, philosophy classes, AAA meetings, self-help books, etc. These social processes can just as easily lead you into focusing upon the process more than yourself. There is no right answer for this procedure - only that you do it, and it is the truth.

Being an authentic self is a very long, varied and complex discussion.

Once you've mastered the unflinching eye turned inward you're ready to master the unflinching eye turned outward. It is at this time that you can make true differences to those around you - your family, your friends, your co-workers, your teachers, your students - all those with whom you directly communciate. Those are the people that are a part of the social you.

People quip "you are what you eat" - you are, in fact, all that you experience. Your social experiences mold your being as it relates to being-in-humanity. That part of human existence is the primary one, as I'm about to elucidate.

You are, yourself, finite. Your thoughts, experiences, passions, drives, flaws, uniqueness will pass from existence. This is a chasm difficult to leap. Many people stop at the precipice and gaze into its black depths not to return. You encounter this unknowingly usually in your late teens and early twenties - it is the time when your mind is most ripe for both self-delusion and your greatest triumph.

The idea of God, spirits, immortality leaps out to you as a candle in the void, calling you with its warmth. It is a lie. It is an unfortunate fact that most minds are not capable of extending beyond this mirage to the truth which is the future of our species. If you are already well developed in the unflinching eye you will understand the innate lie that is the false infinity of spiritualism and turn from it. It is then that you are most vulnerable for nihilism.

For those who can see beyond the chasm of finity, they will have need of the comfort of others to help secure the path for humanity. For those who fail to subsume the future of humanity as part of their self, their delusion or destruction holds the rest of us back. It is our job to help them overcome this handicap.

Provided you can realize the human condition and actualize your unique part - you will pass your positive influence upon humanity and that will become part of all of us that are, and that ever will be. That is the answer to your finite existence - to extend yourself infinitely through all that we - as humans - can become. That is the ultimate good.

Will we make our next leap into space? Will we see all our brothers and sisters on the world as family members? Will we learn, as a species, to treat the disadvantaged amoung us with compassion instead of contempt ? Will we overcome our fear of strangers to embrace them as a part of ourselves and thus step back from technological armageddons ?

These questions and thousands of others are forefront in our combined existence - they must be answered for the affirmative and the negative must be denied. The existence of all we are, the human experiment, depends upon your own unique will to help shape its existence.

Alone, we are morbidly finite. Together-through-the-infinite-future is your salvation.

w00t! :fluffle: :fluffle:

I think the point of life is just to fluffle for all you're worth! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Well it's certainly a great way to pass the time! :D

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Very interesting post... I think I'd agree with most of it.

Life is to learn.
It is what we are here for.
Look at the way we act, at every conversaton most people have.
It's the striving for knowledge. The only problem is that most don't realise what they're looking for.
Knowledge isn't remembering what happened on the 2 August 1871, or the name of an arterry in our arm.
True knowledge is knowledge of ourselves-to know why we feel the way we do, why does anger arise when it does, we should we feel jealous, etc.
And through this we see the irrelevency of these things.
We must help humanity and we must help ourselves to fix eachother.
It is sad that most go through a chaos within. A constant bombardment of thoughts, worries,hatreds, fears, fanaticism,etc.
Thats what we are here for. To help others and ourselves to be released from these things.
To get rid of these things we must observe ourselves, looking at each negative thing , be it a situation or a feeling, and to ask ourselves why it is there, what's the point of that, why should we feel anger towards another, was what they done to you deserved or did they act with these selfish, negative feelings and emotions?
Not all of us have to be a gung-ho hero or a brilliant one of poetic majesty.
Just to help, in whatever way we can.
Every individual is in an individual situation, work from that. Be it only a helpful suggestion, so long as it is truely helpful.
Observe within yourselves all of these negativities, seeing everything about them, the what's and why's of them.

Sorry to repeat myself, just that these things have to be made clear.

People quip "you are what you eat" - you are, in fact, all that you experience. Your social experiences mold your being as it relates to being-in-humanity. That part of human existence is the primary one.
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True, situations help to mould the personality( to an extent, individuality plays a huge also. A naturaly kind person doesn't often become a knife wielding murderer for example)
However, nobody has to let themselves be moulded the wrong way.
Someone who was wrongfully imprisoned might harden and might believe there isn't any goodness in the world, does that mean there isn't?
This hypothethical person should break down that negative barrier they've built, see the goodness again and , to put it in simple terms, learn to love.

Cognitive Studies are a fascinating area of human introspection.

I have no doubt that both of these contradictory statements are in some measure true, and in some measure false:

1. You are always impacted by your experiences.
2. You have complete choice in how your experiences impact you.

Being a person who has been tortured does not, by virtue of the tortue, destroy your trust in humanity. Could it? Of course it could. Should it? For most of us, it would, without a doubt, leave a scar it would be hard to overcome.

This is what makes the task of authenticating ourselves not only an ongoing, and limitless task, but one which can scarsely be predicted even by ourselves.

The world gives us challenges - how we overcome them, and reach beyond those challenges shapes our future endeavors - it is, indeed, part of who we are.

However, if we are an enlightened people we do everything we can to eliminate unnecessary obstacles for others.

Decent people do not sadistically torment others to give them more challenges - human existence has a sufficient number of obstacles to challenge us.

Having humanity reach out to others and help them answer the question of subsistence so those people can help us work on other factors in the human experiment is of tantamount importance.

Humanity will never answer all its challenges. In fact progressing solutions to the point where our new challenges allow enrichment of our species has been the growth pattern of human history.

...to it all? a lame, teenage angst-style post here, but what do other people have as the 'point' in their lives? what are you here to do? why do you do what you do?


i feel like there is no point in life and that nothing i do will matter, on the grand scale of things. this has lead me to give up trying with most things, and abandon all ambition and drive i once had. i see the only good that can come from me is to raise my (future) children well and contribute to the next generation. beyond that, all else is futile :(

I find my purpopse in life in God. I'm a philosophy major because of it. I was a computer science major, but I switched because I think that He wanted me to. I think that God wants to use me both in politics and philosophy.

I don't know if I will ever see the full impact of what I am doing, but I know that as long as I follow God, it will have an impact.

Pure Metal you have Tink
Enough said. :(

Some of us arent so lucky and lose 3 points in competitions.

What's the point?
There is no point. So everybody can kill themselves now.
[/bad attempt at humour of some sort]

Seriously, I figure life is what you make it, and your purpose is whatever you choose it to be. That's my view on things.

What's the point?
There is no point. So everybody can kill themselves now.
[/bad attempt at humour of some sort]

Seriously, I figure life is what you make it, and your purpose is whatever you choose it to be. That's my view on things.
NA stop getting their hopes up.
DIE :mp5: :eek: ;) :D :fluffle:

No one knows the answer to this question. There may in fact be no reason. So enjoy it while you can. :)

My reason for living is to leave this world a little better than i found it. I do that through volunteer work and donating money to my favorite charities. It's not necessarily everyone's purpose, but i think it's mine. You may think that nothing you do matters, but you live on forever in the hearts of all those who loved you long after you're gone. They remember what you did and who you were. You will leave an impact on this world, no matter how small. We are all connected, and we effect eachother's lives in more ways than we can even begin to imagine. By simply giving one hour a week to help someone, you, in your own way, may change their life forever. That matters, it means something. Even if it turns out that nothing you do will matter in the long run, that doesn't mean it doesn't matter now, and now is all we have. We should make it the best we can.