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The Davinci code claims that Jesus had a wife and a little girl, yet this is only a novel but do you think it si fact or fiction?

Why not? It was the custom to have a wife

Pure conjecture.

Yes but that would mean that catholic priests can marry and have children

The Davinci code also claims that many other gospels were written but only four made it into the bible, the others may well explain the marriage

Yes but that would mean that catholic priests can marry and have children
No... because Catholic priests aren't 2000 year old jews :rolleyes:

No... because Catholic priests aren't 2000 year old jews :rolleyes:

Sorry I should have explained better :headbang: , priests follow in the lives of Jesus by devoting themselves entirely to God. But if Jesus didnt devote himself entirely to his father but to his wife, doesnt that mean that priests could then marry and folllow in the EXAMPLE of Jesus

I am catholic, but not devout, I am partially inclined to the Protestant way of thinking though seeing as the majority of my wider family is protestant

Sorry I should have explained better :headbang: , priests follow in the lives of Jesus by devoting themselves entirely to God. But if Jesus didnt devote himself entirely to his father but to his wife, doesnt that mean that priests could then marry and folllow in the EXAMPLE of Jesus
Because the bible NOW says that they can't.

Yes but that would mean that catholic priests can marry and have children

just like in the old days

Well, certain facets are true, such as Opus Dei and it's roots. This orgnaisation does actually exist. But, there are some facets that may be pure coincidence, but they are worded so well that they may as well be fact, such the pentacle at the beginning. BTW, who figured out the cryptex before you got told it?

Because the bible NOW says that they can't.

Martin Luther (German not to be confused with Martin Luther King jnr.) disagreed with these teachings and this was in the 1500's. The bible was changed somewhere in between 1700's and 1800's after more denominations of christians started appearing everywhere.

BTW, who figured out the cryptex before you got told it?
Nope :(

BTW, who figured out the cryptex before you got told it?
No it hurt my brain

First one was quite hard, but the second was easy! 'An orb', 'Newton', it's quite obviously APPLE. LOL, I feel sorry for LP *ruffles LP's hair*

First one was quite hard, but the second was easy! 'An orb', 'Newton', it's quite obviously APPLE. LOL, I feel sorry for LP *ruffles LP's hair*
*pur*

I am catholic, but not devout, I am partially inclined to the Protestant way of thinking though seeing as the majority of my wider family is protestant

congradulations...now do you have a point to make?

Anyhow...I don't think it was taken too far. It's a story...it's not being forced down your throat as fact.

Who has read 'Angels and Demons', the precursor to 'The Da Vinci Code'? Also, another thing, ppl claim tht Da Vinci and Newton were members of both the Priory of Sion, and the Illuminati. Da Vinci was said to be master of both! How would that happen? Imagine the pressure!

*continues ruffling hair*

It's a reasonably good novel, but the problem is that it massively overreaches fact and portrays opinion/conjecture/belief for purely sensational effect.
Thing like Da Vinchi's perfect ratio of 1:1.618 reoccuring in a fantastic number of places are true, but unfortunately you can never use any of teh interesting facts from the book because the line between what's real and what isn't is non-existant.

I defniately dont think everythign is true, did jesus have a wife? Possibly, i'm not sure.

It's a reasonably good novel, but the problem is that it massively overreaches fact and portrays opinion/conjecture/belief for purely sensational effect.
Thing like Da Vinchi's perfect ratio of 1:1.618 reoccuring in a fantastic number of places are true, but unfortunately you can never use any of teh interesting facts from the book because the line between what's real and what isn't is non-existant.

I defniately dont think everythign is true, did jesus have a wife? Possibly, i'm not sure.
But as you said, it's a novel. Therefore, it's sole purpose is to creat an atmosphere. That doesn't mean you have to believe it, it just makes for fantastic reading.
I'll go with the coincidence part though. It's like in 'The Last Supper', the images are there, but you really have to look for them. I did actually research all this

Who has read 'Angels and Demons', the precursor to 'The Da Vinci Code'? Also, another thing, ppl claim tht Da Vinci and Newton were members of both the Priory of Sion, and the Illuminati. Da Vinci was said to be master of both! How would that happen? Imagine the pressure!

*continues ruffling hair*
*rubs up to Snake Eaters' leg*

The Davinci Code is pure fiction. It uses names of organizations that actually exist (such as the Opus Dei), and items that actually exist (such as the Mona Lisa). Its use of names, locations, and items that actually exist or existed doesnt make it any more real than a Tom Clancy novel might be considered real for using names of organizations that actually exist (CIA, NSA, etc.) and items or places that actually exist (air force one, the white house, Washington DC., etc.).

The Davinci code is the book version of an artistic style that has surfaced in recent years in the movie scene. This artistic style involves blurring the line between fact and fiction by making the fiction appear to be fact. Blair Witch Project pioneered this concept by creating a legend that does not actually exist and promoting the movie first as if it were real footage, and later as if it is not real footage but is based on real happenings (neither one being true). That artistic style has appeared again in cinema in the movies "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", "September Tapes", and to a lesser extent in "Open Water", and "Perfect Storm". It has been highly successful in cinema, and is now proving to be successful with books as well.

*begins tickling Legless Pirate's belly*

I like the idea LazyHippies has got. It is a style of writing that is successful, and for that I believe that minor transgressions such as blurring the line can be forgiven. After all, who really knows what is real!

*lays on his back and starts kicking with a stump*

As a book I thought it was excellent, and it did make me think.

As for factuality...I am more than certain alot of the things in "Da Vinci Code" were/are true...but I am also certain that Dan Brown took certain liberties and left out a few things.

It might just be me, but it seems that Brown doesn't have a very high opinion of religion.

The Davinci code claims that Jesus had a wife and a little girl, yet this is only a novel but do you think it si fact or fiction?

The whole Jesus thing is sci fi anyway, so he should be able to add to the stories anyway he wants.

*waves a ball of yarn in front of LP*

I don't think Brown does like religion, he's normally attacking them. But oh well, not everyone likes religion. I know I'm not a keen fan (which is why I'm athiest)

*claws at Snake Eaters' ball*

*teases LP by moving the ball around*

Just like a cat this one

*paws the ball hard*

I haven't read it, but I watched a documentary on Channel 4 (anyone else in the UK see it?) about the Da Vinci Code, and it came to the conclusion that no, it's just a good story.The "Priory of Sion" was apparently just a hoax cooked up by three men.

The whole Jesus thing is sci fi anyway, so he should be able to add to the stories anyway he wants.
Could you expand this point please?

*Lifts LP up, and places on lap, stroking gently*

BTW, who figured out the cryptex before you got told it?
woot i did:) im smart:P hehe ;) :D

*blinks lazily and purs*

I haven't read it, but I watched a documentary on Channel 4 (anyone else in the UK see it?) about the Da Vinci Code, and it came to the conclusion that no, it's just a good story.The "Priory of Sion" was apparently just a hoax cooked up by three men.
Yeah, I saw that. I don't know whether to believe it though, despite evidence. Until someone gives me concrete evidence of something, I am not convinced. Anyway, this is a perfect example of how much arguing this causes. Why would ppl see the need to argue about it, if it didn't exist?
Well done to the other guy who figured out the cryptex *shakes hands, whilst tickling LP behind the ears*

Hey not to flame anybodys debates but it did say in the book that it WAS fiction and he did not claim any of the claims in the book is real...except for the Priory of Sion and the descriptions of artwork, achitecture, documents and scret rituals that quote are all accurate. Anyways...besides? its a good book and if people disagree with it then don't read it! haha Dan Brown wont be worrying too much about all this criticism as he is a multi-millionaire:P

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I didn't notice that. And it's not flaming, it's fact if it's written down. But enlightened debate is good

*Picks up Da Vinci Code and starts reading*

ya its at the starting of both books, illustrated and non illustrated

Yes but that would mean that catholic priests can marry and have children

No it wouldn't. The reasons that priests were originally required to be celibate were economic.

I haven't read it, but I watched a documentary on Channel 4 (anyone else in the UK see it?) about the Da Vinci Code, and it came to the conclusion that no, it's just a good story.The "Priory of Sion" was apparently just a hoax cooked up by three men.

:( I missed itI've been hoping that it is going to be repeated.

Anyways...besides? its a good book and if people disagree with it then don't read it! haha Dan Brown wont be worrying too much about all this criticism as he is a multi-millionaire:P

I heard Baigent (*spits*) et al are suing him for plagiarism.