NationStates Jolt Archive


Recently found engraved on the wall of a large hall...

Sharazar
26-02-2005, 12:21
FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF KNOWLEDGE

I have to admit, i proudly waved the WTF flag. Other people's thoughts on possible meanings/reasonings/etc?
Sdaeriji
26-02-2005, 12:24
It could mean that there are not proper after-school activities for the youth of that town.
Bodies Without Organs
26-02-2005, 12:24
Other people's thoughts on possible meanings/reasonings/etc?

At the moment of eating of the Tree of Knowledge, Adam and Eve were punsihed by the Lord and so in fear of him?
Sharazar
26-02-2005, 12:32
It could mean that there are not proper after-school activities for the youth of that town.
Should specifiy, engraved in a clean, decorative official manner, not random vandalism, clearly meant to be there. It's more the quote itself that i'm focusing on.
Randomea
26-02-2005, 12:32
[clop clop clop]
[boom boom]
[angels sing]
GOD:
Arthur! Arthur, King of the Britons!

Oh, don't grovel!
[singing stops]
One thing I can't stand, it's people groveling.
ARTHUR:
Sorry.
[boom]
GOD:
And don't apologize. Every time I try to talk to someone it's 'sorry this' and 'forgive me that' and 'I'm not worthy'.
[boom]
What are you doing now?!
ARTHUR:
I'm averting my eyes, O Lord.

GOD:
Well, don't. It's like those miserable Psalms-- they're so depressing. Now, knock it off!
ARTHUR:
Yes, Lord.
GOD:
Right! Arthur, King of the Britons, your Knights of the Round Table shall have a task to make them an example in these dark times.
ARTHUR:
Good idea, O Lord!
GOD:
'Course it's a good idea! Behold!
[angels sing]
Arthur, this is the Holy Grail. Look well, Arthur, for it is your sacred task to seek this grail. That is your purpose, Arthur: the quest for the Holy Grail.
[boom]
[singing stops]
LAUNCELOT:
A blessing! A blessing from the Lord!
GALAHAD:
God be praised!
Made me think of that.
Jeez I'm miserable if even MP doesn't make me smile.
Kroblexskij
26-02-2005, 12:41
i like conspiracies :p

edit and MP
Matalatataka
26-02-2005, 12:44
Fear of something is the begining of knowledge? So fear of black people is the begining of knowledge about black people? That's worked really well for the Klan so far. Fear of the world our grandchildren and their grandchildren's children will inherit has done wonders for how we use and treat the world and the other people living in it. Yeah, right. Fear of the Lord is what will make all of our lives better. Only if they were talking about the Lords of our Economies who rule over us all from behind their closed boardroom doors and their gated multi-million dollar estates. Knowing that my future rests in their hands -- now that makes me afraid!
Cannot think of a name
26-02-2005, 12:47
In Oakland there is the following sign:

STOP CASTING POROSITY

which had us confused. We didn't know we where casting porosity, nor did we know how to stop it....


then we realised we where putting the accent in the wrong part of the sentence....
Cannot think of a name
26-02-2005, 12:49
FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF KNOWLEDGE

I have to admit, i proudly waved the WTF flag. Other people's thoughts on possible meanings/reasonings/etc?
I thought knowledge was settled with the apple. That he wasn't too keen on knowledge...which has always been a little problematic for me. I hit the same hiccup in Taoism, but that was just through random reading so I probably have it wrong on both accounts...
Super-power
26-02-2005, 13:03
I have to admit, i proudly waved the WTF flag. Other people's thoughts on possible meanings/reasonings/etc?
*waves the WTF flag*
Bodies Without Organs
26-02-2005, 13:13
Fear of something is the begining of knowledge? So fear of black people is the begining of knowledge about black people?

No, the term you are thinking of is 'Fear Of A Black Planet'.
Censium
26-02-2005, 13:17
Im proberbly realy stupid but what does "WTF" stand for?
Bodies Without Organs
26-02-2005, 13:21
Im proberbly realy stupid but what does "WTF" stand for?

What The Fuck. See also 'OMFG!WTF!!!!!SHIFT1111111'
Bottle
26-02-2005, 13:22
I thought knowledge was settled with the apple. That he wasn't too keen on knowledge...which has always been a little problematic for me. I hit the same hiccup in Taoism, but that was just through random reading so I probably have it wrong on both accounts...
God also punishes humans for being industrious, working together, and attempting to better understand the universe (Tower of Babel). he also repeatedly endorses the murder of people who ask questions. i'd say the Bible is pretty consistent on the subject; people who try to understand the world are sinful and wicked and should be stoned to death shortly before being burnt at the stake. we're all supposed to shut up and recite the Bible, and accept whatever interpretation of the material is spoon-fed to us by the leaders of our particular denomination.
Hazesimkath
26-02-2005, 13:29
[QUOTE=Sharazar]FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF KNOWLEDGE

Whoever engaved it is yet another fanatic who did not bother reading what he was quoting from

it is from the bible , is in parables and reads `fear of the lord is the beginning of WISDOM' which if you accept the existance of an omnipotent being who can wipe out whatever he wants whenever he wants has a certain logic to it ;)
Aelov
26-02-2005, 13:29
FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF KNOWLEDGE

Ok you people are the most retarded type of people I know. ANy person who worships god is a 'god fearing' man. Fear of the lord means you know what he can do when you sin and what can happen after you die. You know of his wrath so therfor worship him and obey his commandments so that your soul shall be saved. Also if you read the book of revelations only the people who obey gods commandments will be saved by yeshua when the time comes. oh ya and not have the beasts mark =P. So obviously with the obove statement it is meaning that when you start being a 'god fearing' man then all truth shall be known to you because god is the one true god. Or at least thats my interperatation of it. Now comon people i'm not even a christian or catholic or even agnostic and I can tell you people, yet you'r so ignorant that you can't even comprehend it. Once you start studying religions or philosophy then come back here and start talking about it otherwise don't even try. (exept for a few people in here who know something)
Bitchkitten
26-02-2005, 13:34
Was that hall in Jesusaves' house? VoteEarly's?
Bodies Without Organs
26-02-2005, 13:35
Ok you people are the most retarded type of people I know. ... Or at least thats my interperatation of it. Now comon people i'm not even a christian or catholic or even agnostic and I can tell you people, yet you'r so ignorant that you can't even comprehend it.

Amidst the flames: 'Christian or Catholic'?
Autocraticama
26-02-2005, 13:37
God also punishes humans for being industrious, working together, and attempting to better understand the universe (Tower of Babel). he also repeatedly endorses the murder of people who ask questions. i'd say the Bible is pretty consistent on the subject; people who try to understand the world are sinful and wicked and should be stoned to death shortly before being burnt at the stake. we're all supposed to shut up and recite the Bible, and accept whatever interpretation of the material is spoon-fed to us by the leaders of our particular denomination.

Tower of babel was becasue humans were arrogant and they beleived they were doing something that even God couldn't do. and please show me the verses where god endorses murder...
Autocraticama
26-02-2005, 13:39
Ok you people are the most retarded type of people I know. ANy person who worships god is a 'god fearing' man. Fear of the lord means you know what he can do when you sin and what can happen after you die. You know of his wrath so therfor worship him and obey his commandments so that your soul shall be saved. Also if you read the book of revelations only the people who obey gods commandments will be saved by yeshua when the time comes. oh ya and not have the beasts mark =P. So obviously with the obove statement it is meaning that when you start being a 'god fearing' man then all truth shall be known to you because god is the one true god. Or at least thats my interperatation of it. Now comon people i'm not even a christian or catholic or even agnostic and I can tell you people, yet you'r so ignorant that you can't even comprehend it. Once you start studying religions or philosophy then come back here and start talking about it otherwise don't even try. (exept for a few people in here who know something)



yay.....how many pages did it take for a sensical post to appear?
Bottle
26-02-2005, 13:45
Tower of babel was becasue humans were arrogant and they beleived they were doing something that even God couldn't do.

dude, the people were building the Tower to GET CLOSER TO GOD! they wanted to get closer, they wanted to see Him, they wanted to understand. to punish them, God smashed their efforts and made them unable to communicate and learn from one another.

it wasn't arrogance being punished, it was inquiry.


and please show me the verses where god endorses murder...
you're joking, right?

God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church. In Numbers 31:17-18, Moses relays God's orders to "Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man ... , keep alive for yourselves."

i can keep going.
Bodies Without Organs
26-02-2005, 13:48
and please show me the verses where god endorses murder...you're joking, right?

God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). ... But all the young girls who have not known man ... , keep alive for yourselves."

i can keep going.

Those are killings, certainly, but if they are carried out by God they are by Christian definition not unjustified or illegal killings, and as such aren't murders.
The State of It
26-02-2005, 13:58
Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge that you are scared of your own shadow.
Bottle
26-02-2005, 14:09
Those are killings, certainly, but if they are carried out by God they are by Christian definition not unjustified or illegal killings, and as such aren't murders.
yes, a murderer will often admit that while he did kill somebody, it doesn't count as murder because it was justified.

in America, we don't let the perpetrator be the judge of whether his act was murder. we also don't allow his family members to make that decision. Christians, as the "children" of their God, are clearly not in any position to judge whether or not those acts were murder.
I_Hate_Cows
26-02-2005, 14:56
It could mean that there are not proper after-school activities for the youth of that town.
Or that there are 1 too many...
Bolol
26-02-2005, 15:18
FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF KNOWLEDGE

I have to admit, i proudly waved the WTF flag. Other people's thoughts on possible meanings/reasonings/etc?

Yeah...you think you got it bad? I've got a guy at school who litters the boys bathroom with Baptist pamphlets and comics.
Sharazar
26-02-2005, 16:26
...punishes humans for being industrious, working together, and attempting to better understand the universe... endorses the murder of people who ask questions... people who try to understand the world are sinful and wicked and should be stoned to death shortly before being burnt at the stake... we're all supposed to shut up... accept whatever interpretation of the material is spoon-fed to us by the leaders...
That is SO going to be my nations government target to aim for! :D

Once you start studying religions or philosophy then come back here and start talking about it otherwise don't even try.
Err... public board, public posting. Or something similar anyway. Surely anyone can come along and post their thoughts, even if they're not actually "studying religions or philosophy", it's just their thoughts. If you want a elite philosphy board then go start one on your own website (not an angry insult, actual suggestion, wouldn't be suprised if there is one somewhere online already).

Amidst the flames: 'Christian or Catholic'?
Nice, nearly missed that one.
Aelov
27-02-2005, 15:47
If you want a elite philosphy board then go start one on your own website (not an angry insult, actual suggestion, wouldn't be suprised if there is one somewhere online already).


I know but I was just sorta angry because like the Tao Te Ching says: It is best not to speak of things you don't understand. I was just saying its not gonna help out the discussion if you throw in little 2 cent words.
Dracoteria
27-02-2005, 15:55
i think taoism puts it best
"those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak"
The White Hats
27-02-2005, 15:58
i think taoism puts it best
"those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak"
But speaking can be a good way of finding out what you do not know, no?
Sparkeh
27-02-2005, 16:05
Was that hall in Jesusaves' house? VoteEarly's?
If it were in VoteEarly's house, it would say something about mocking all the people going to hell.
Sharazar
28-02-2005, 00:25
I know but I was just sorta angry because like the Tao Te Ching says: It is best not to speak of things you don't understand. I was just saying its not gonna help out the discussion if you throw in little 2 cent words.
Sorry, no hard feelings, eh? :fluffle:

I'd say that it depends on the situation tho.

If you are someone who knows nothing at all about a certain subject, but you go shoving your opinion in peoples faces and claiming that it's right dammit, then yes, keep your mouth shut please.

However, people offering their 2 cents gives an overall increase to the disscusion. I mean, get however many cents it is and you've got a dollar. :D Every little helps, and who knows, someones random little thought could be a viewpoint you've overlooked. You won't know unless they post it.

But speaking can be a good way of finding out what you do not know, no?
Agreed, as long as you ask the right questions.
The White Hats
28-02-2005, 00:34
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Agreed, as long as you ask the right questions.
Meh. I learn as much by spouting rubbish and listening to the rejoinders.
Sharazar
28-02-2005, 00:48
Meh. I learn as much by spouting rubbish and listening to the rejoinders.
:D lol

Maybe spouting rubbish is "the right questions"! Questions that i shall ask more often from now on.
The White Hats
28-02-2005, 01:00
:D lol

Maybe spouting rubbish is "the right questions"! Questions that i shall ask more often from now on.
*Feels the urge to start a sentance ending in the words, "little grasshopper". Can't think of anything.* :(