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What does everyone think of Phelps? There will be a poll in a moment. For the record, I think he's a deranged, heartless, raving psychopath.

For those who haven't heard of the bastard, he's the pundit behind www.godhatesamerica.com and www.godhatesfags.com

I would give him a 1, but to my knowledge he's not bombing or killing anyone, so I give him a 2.

Fred is the slime on top of the scum that floats on a stagnate body of water. Metaphorically speaking.

He makes me lose hope for the human race, on occasion. Then I just want to do unprintable things to him involving sharp implements.

he and his church were planning to come to my high school to protest our gay-straight alliance. they chickened out... but regardless, he's still sick.

I can't wait for VoteEarly to get here, vote "10" and tell us all that Phelps is not extreme enough!

As a human being who contributes nothing positive to society, he gets a 1. Rot in peace bitch!

Indeed. Huzzah for cancer. Let us toast Phelps' uncontrolled cell divisions as his own, disgusting body finally consumes him.

He is a waste of human flesh, bone, and air. He poisons the ground he walks on by simply pressing one foot in front of another. The day he leaves this Earth will be a day of unallayed rejoicing.

There is a special place reserved for that creature in Hell.

What does everyone think of Phelps? There will be a poll in a moment. For the record, I think he's a deranged, heartless, raving psychopath.

Good to see that we agree on something.

I would give him a 1, but to my knowledge he's not bombing or killing anyone, so I give him a 2.
Actually, that's the reason why I would give him a 1. Osama is not killing or murdering anyone, but he's making a strong impression on wide eyed kids who are willing to kill and bomb other people. So, the manipulated kids would get a 2, maybe even a 3, from me; but the master-mind gets a 1.

"Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love."

--I John 4:8

"Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love."

--I John 4:8

A wise quote my good sir.

He's so full of it that when he speaks, it sounds like a fit of flatunlence.

Love your enemies, I say.

He's so full of it that when he speaks, it sounds like a fit of flatulence.

Nice guy, heart of gold, would do anything for you. Oh, I thought you said Ken Phelps, the ball player. Nope, Fred is almost as big of a target for Opus Dei as the loser who does the hate cartoons.

Fred Phelps = douchebag

I hope he turns out to be gay.

I would give him a 1, but to my knowledge he's not bombing or killing anyone, so I give him a 2.


His church has been bombed, his followers attacked, by militant gays. Indeed all Pastor Phelps has to do is attempt to preach the true word of God, and the militant gays squirm and crawl out from under their rocks, to attack him.


The bible is quite clear, in the later days, the masses of Christians will abandon the faith and follow the teachings of lying demons and devils, obeying false doctrines and calling it the true message of Christ. (Kind of like how 99% of churches teach God loves all, forgives all, and Christ died for all).

Furthermore, the true followers of Christ who hold fast to the word, will be a pitifully small number, and they will be fiercely attacked, persecuted, and hated by those who claim to be the true followers, but are in reality, just misled demon worshippers who are being held under the sway of the False Prophet.


Pastor Phelps is one such Pastor, a member of the pitifully small number of Christians who has not fallen into listening to demons. He preaches the word of Christ, the TRUE word of Christ, and he is one of only a few men in the USA, who has the courage and moral compass to continue doing what is right despite all those who attack him and condemn him.


God Bless you Pastor Phelps!

Enter the troll.... :headbang:

2 Timothy 4:2-4 (New International Version)

2Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction. 3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.




People want to hear God loves everybody, because that includes them, they are part of this everybody which they claim (falsely claim) that God loves.

Phelps tries to set them straight on the matter, thus they hate him.




Timothy 2:10 (New International Version)

10Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory.



The message of Pastor Phelps is the message of Christ, He came only for His Elect, He died only for His Elect, and only the Elect will obtain salvation through Christ.

Hey VoteEarly, these are your people right here. True christians.

www.landoverbaptist.com

rev. fred is the voice of the elect on earth... he's like the pope, if the pope wasn't a filthy satan worshipping false prophet who will soon he burning forever in a lake of fire.

Hey VoteEarly, these are your people right here. True christians.

www.landoverbaptist.com



Blasphemy and border on baiting, and folks wonder why I call them Reprobate...

Can I give him a -10? I think they should hold gay pride parades on the anniversary of his death every year. :D

This guy is really, really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really really, really, really ANGSTY.

I give him a two. Why? Because he doesn't deserve the historical recognition that a one would give.

I just love how those on the left who complain about how the right is destroying free speech, argue this man should basically not be able to preach what he does, heck some here even want him dead. Nice.

BTW I find his arguements interesting. I just love how he really ticks off the "militant" gay community.

Can I give him a -10? I think they should hold gay pride parades on the anniversary of his death every year. :D
and i still think you deserve a severe chastizement upon your bum by the hand of holy retribution.

Can I give him a -10? I think they should hold gay pride parades on the anniversary of his death every year. :D

Nah, the gayness would keep too many people away.

I just love how those on the left who complain about how the right is destroying free speech, argue this man should basically not be able to preach what he does, heck some here even want him dead. Nice.

BTW I find his arguements interesting. I just love how he really ticks off the "militant" gay community.

No one, except for some, is arguing that he shouldn't have free speech. however, because he's entitled to free speech doesn't mean we can't call him a dick.

and i still think you deserve a severe chastizement upon your bum by the hand of holy retribution.

Promises, promises. :p

the problem i do have with the idea of the predestined elect is that it removes any compulsion toward redemption. your name is either written in the book of the lamb at the being of time or it isn't, either way no need to worry. i've never seen how you can reconcile predestination with free will or real moral responsibility.

Bad man? Good man? Man who says what he believes. I'm not aware that he hurt anyone.. so he just speaks a certain philosophy. In that, he's just the same as any other person on either side of the political spectrum, so he rates a six: 6 because it's moderate and I find no reason to rate this person towards either end of the rating system here.

No one, except for some


:confused:

Promises, promises. :p i prefer to think of them as fetish tinged idle threats but...

Phelps is an evil man who usurps the names of God, Jesus Christ, and Chrisitanity for his own evil ends.

Phelps is an evil man who usurps the names of God, Jesus Christ, and Chrisitanity for his own evil ends.
that's what the pharases said jesus was doing to judaism and the yahweh

the problem i do have with the idea of the predestined elect is that it removes any compulsion toward redemption. your name is either written in the book of the lamb at the being of time or it isn't, either way no need to worry. i've never seen how you can reconcile predestination with free will or real moral responsibility.


You don't know for sure who is written in what book. If you're a sinner and act evil, you can rest assured your name likely isn't written in the book. Since God gifts His Elect with faith.


Romans 4:1-4
1What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, discovered in this matter? 2If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about–but not before God. 3What does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

4Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation.

I see this as "God saves you not based on your work, but by who He wishes to justify." But then it states a sort of, "but your faith will manifest itself." (Obligation= Thus you'll be acting properly)







PREDESTINATION PROVEN:



Romans 9:10-16

10And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; )

12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Romans 11:5-8 (King James Version)

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

i guess i have to give him a 3....

in my book, 1 is reserved for hitler, stalin, etc., 2 is for osama, zarqawi, and others who incite homicide bombers/extreme violence.

I voted 2 just because he's sort of entertaining and isn't a mass murderer, just an assnozzle. The book of Revelation refers to ten power hungry kings without kingdoms...I almost am inclined to count Phelps as one of the ten.

Well, 74.47% gave him 1 and 12.77% returned 2.
He's less popular than Bush around here.

Romans 11:5-8 (New Testament)

5 So now some are left because God was kind to them, and chose them.

6 But if it was a gift because he was kind to them, then it was no longer because of the things they did. Or else a gift would no longer be a gift.

7 So what does that mean? The Jews did not get what they tried to get. Only the people God chose got it. The hearts of the rest of the people became hard.

8 The holy writings say, `God made them dull with sleep. He gave them eyes that could not see, and ears that could not hear. They have been like that until today.'

No one, except for some, is arguing that he shouldn't have free speech. however, because he's entitled to free speech doesn't mean we can't call him a dick.
Sadly, there are people like my Political Science professor, who argue that people like Phelps, along with neo-Nazis and holocaust deniers, are not exercising free speech but "hate speech" and are not entitled to their Constituionally-guaranteed rights, while arguing that the Constitution does protect the rights of child molestors and pedophiles to [drawn and written] child pornography. :/

I take no part or parcel with groups like NAMBLA, the KKK, the Black Panthers, Aryan Nation or the Nation of Islam, but to arbitrarially outlaw their speech smacks of hypocrisy. It is not, of course, Dick & Jane readers that need protection -- it is unpopular speech which does.

I give Mr. Phelps a two.

VoteEarly, Valhalla -- it's okay. Jesus still loves you. :)

I gave him a 1, because he sounds a bit like Australia's own 'Rev.' Fred Nile (I definitely don't revere him) leader of the Christian Democrats.

Bastard wouldn't know democracy if it bit him on his bloated, egotistical arse.

VoteEarly, Valhalla -- it's okay. Jesus still loves you. :)
and he loves bitchkitten too, he just thinks she needs a good spanking

VoteEarly, Valhalla -- it's okay. Jesus still loves you. :)
Jesus is standing right next to me, and he says he hates their guts and hopes they die. He also says... There is no way in hell I'm gonna type what he said. Sick bastard.

Jesus is standing right next to me, and he says he hates their guts and hopes they die. He also says... There is no way in hell I'm gonna type what he said. Sick bastard.
that's not christ, that's the coyote wearing a rather cheesey jesus mask. don't listen to the coyote, he's a trickster and he doesn't always loose and get anvils dropped on his head like in the cartoon, he eats plenty of roadrunner in real life.

I guess what I don't get is why he even bothers. I mean, what the hell business of his is it what two people are doing behind closed doors in the first place? Then again, there are people who think that being bisexual means getting laid six times a day. And here I haven't even made that number over the course of my life! Go figure.

that's not christ, that's the coyote wearing a rather cheesey jesus mask. don't listen to the coyote, he's a trickster and he doesn't always loose and get anvils dropped on his head like in the cartoon, he eats plenty of roadrunner in real life.

And to think, sometimes you are taken seriously :)

We're all going to hell. Even Jesus.

And to think, sometimes you are taken seriously :)
and i suppose you don't believe in the coyote... damn secular humanist!!!!!!

that's not christ, that's the coyote wearing a rather cheesey jesus mask. don't listen to the coyote, he's a trickster and he doesn't always loose and get anvils dropped on his head like in the cartoon, he eats plenty of roadrunner in real life.
Nope. That's Jesus. I ran a DNA test. The coyote got hacked to death by a cleaver-wielding Jesus.

Nope. That's Jesus. I ran a DNA test. The coyote got hacked to death by a cleaver-wielding Jesus.
man you just fell for one of the tricksters classics... the "it can't be me cuz i'm dead, look here's the body" con.

Jesus sounds a little kinky.

Fred Phelps is proof there is no god. Otherwise God would have struck him dead long ago.

Save me Jebus.

Sometimes this board is like a train wreck. :p It's grotesquely disturbing, yet somehow compelling.

We're all going to hell. Even Jesus.

people don't realize that hell was actually built as a shelter to protect us from an extinction event impact, by the first born and that its actually relatively nice.

Jesus sounds a little kinky.
he did drive the money changers out of the temple with a whip... there were some welted tushes that day get me tell you.

My idea on something that would probably get God a lot of reverence points from a lot of people (esp. me):

Right in the middle of a sermon from Jerry Falwell, or Billy Graham, or Fred Phelps, or any other Random Incendiary Pulpit-jockey*, preferably in the middle of the anti-(insert nondestructive superficial or social difference here) part, God descends from the heavens, rolled up New York Times in hand, and just swats the guy across the nose.

*THWAK* -No.- *THWAK* -No.-

That would be a blast.

*Yes, everyone knows this one really cool preacher; every town has one. Obviously, I'm not referring to that person.

man you just fell for one of the tricksters classics... the "it can't be me cuz i'm dead, look here's the body" con.
Okay. I believe you.

*Goes back in time 3 days*

BLAM

*shoots Coyote Jesus*

*Goes forward in time 3 days*

Nope. That's really Jesus. He just gor ressurrected.

Okay. I believe you.

*Goes back in time 3 days*

BLAM

*shoots Coyote Jesus*

*Goes forward in time 3 days*

Nope. That's really Jesus. He just gor ressurrected.
any god or powerful spirit being can pull that trick, ask him to walk on water, coyote hates to get wet.

My idea on something that would probably get God a lot of reverence points from a lot of people (esp. me):

Right in the middle of a sermon from Jerry Falwell, or Billy Graham, or Fred Phelps, or any other Random Incendiary Pulpit-jockey*, preferably in the middle of the anti-(insert nondestructive superficial or social difference here) part, God descends from the heavens, rolled up New York Times in hand, and just swats the guy across the nose.

*THWAK* -No.- *THWAK* -No.-

That would be a blast.

*Yes, everyone knows this one really cool preacher; every town has one. Obviously, I'm not referring to that person.


Please don't compare a pastor as great as Phelps to those as low as Graham and Falwell. Phelps considers them to be lying demons who preach the false lie that God loves all and Jesus died for all. Anyway, look at the trappings and wealth of Graham, Falwell, and Robertson, they only preach for cash and wealth. Phelps lives a simple life and does not swindle folks out of their cash.

Needs less Jesus and more jihad.

Needs less Jesus and more jihad.

Gods yes.

Bad man? Good man? Man who says what he believes. I'm not aware that he hurt anyone.. so he just speaks a certain philosophy. In that, he's just the same as any other person on either side of the political spectrum, so he rates a six: 6 because it's moderate and I find no reason to rate this person towards either end of the rating system here.
He does no harm? He only shows up at funerals to LOUDLY talk bad about the deceased. He doesn't allow the family the respect to bury their loved on with any dignity. He has NO sympathy for the family, regardless of whether or not their deceased loved one was a sinner or not.

My idea on something that would probably get God a lot of reverence points from a lot of people (esp. me):

Right in the middle of a sermon from Jerry Falwell, or Billy Graham, or Fred Phelps, or any other Random Incendiary Pulpit-jockey*, preferably in the middle of the anti-(insert nondestructive superficial or social difference here) part, God descends from the heavens, rolled up New York Times in hand, and just swats the guy across the nose.

*THWAK* -No.- *THWAK* -No.-

That would be a blast.

*Yes, everyone knows this one really cool preacher; every town has one. Obviously, I'm not referring to that person.
This forum REALLY needs a laughing emoticon.

*insert 3 laughing emoticons here*

I just love how those on the left who complain about how the right is destroying free speech, argue this man should basically not be able to preach what he does, heck some here even want him dead. Nice.

BTW I find his arguements interesting. I just love how he really ticks off the "militant" gay community.

No, he has every right in the world to spew his vitriol. Just like I have every right in the world to call him an asshole.

Come on, some kid got beaten to death and Phelps practically danced on his grave! Whether or not you approve of someone's sexual orientation, you DON'T go to someone's funeral and taunt his grieving family and friends. You also don't put up some monument that continues the taunt said dead person. Phelps needs a class in Basic Human Decency 101.

He's so full of it that when he speaks, it sounds like a fit of flatulence.
How ironic! And yet so cute!

Edit: Oh, I gave the man a 3. Certainly, he doesn't seem like a very good or ethical person, but I can think of worse things than him. Many, many worse things. And many better things as well.

bump

I can't wait for VoteEarly to get here, vote "10" and tell us all that Phelps is not extreme enough!

Don't flamebait in my thread, please.

Wow...more people hate Phelps than they do Bush! :eek:

The bible is quite clear, in the later days, the masses of Christians will abandon the faith and follow the teachings of lying demons and devils, obeying false doctrines and calling it the true message of Christ. (Kind of like how 99% of churches teach God loves all, forgives all, and Christ died for all).
If anything Phelps is an example of a false lying demon. Everything he says is hatred. As for 99% of churches, of course they preach a message of love; they actually are Christians, not militarists.

Could you give a source to prove that his church has been bombed by militant homosexuals? Preferably not a source from Phelps himself.

I just love how those on the left who complain about how the right is destroying free speech, argue this man should basically not be able to preach what he does, heck some here even want him dead. Nice.

BTW I find his arguements interesting. I just love how he really ticks off the "militant" gay community.
Nice to see you show your true colours.

You don't know for sure who is written in what book. If you're a sinner and act evil, you can rest assured your name likely isn't written in the book. Since God gifts His Elect with faith.
So is one being a sinner a cause or result of not being in the book of the elect.

You claim to be in God's elect. Do you honestly believe that you have never sinned in your life?

Oops! Didn't read the question properly and clicked 8, but it should have been 2.

Sadly, there are people like my Political Science professor, who argue that people like Phelps, along with neo-Nazis and holocaust deniers, are not exercising free speech but "hate speech" and are not entitled to their Constituionally-guaranteed rights, while arguing that the Constitution does protect the rights of child molestors and pedophiles to [drawn and written] child pornography.
Your PoliSci professor sounds like one of the reviled PC censorship crowd.

I guess what I don't get is why he even bothers. I mean, what the hell business of his is it what two people are doing behind closed doors in the first place?
Think that's bad? He was actually celebrating the fact that thousands were killed in the recent Asian tsunami because a few of them may have been gay.

Don't flamebait in my thread, please.

I would hardly call that flamebaiting so much as prophecy. Had he been wrong, it would have been a different story, but that's about what he did.

What I want to know is when else besides the Matthew Shepard funeral did Phelps show up and act like a dickwad. Frankly, I want to know what his motivation was. I suppose I could Google him, but I don't know what it would uncover. Besides, I still need to Google Red 40...

His church has been bombed, his followers attacked, by militant gays. Indeed all Pastor Phelps has to do is attempt to preach the true word of God, and the militant gays squirm and crawl out from under their rocks, to attack him.


The bible is quite clear, in the later days, the masses of Christians will abandon the faith and follow the teachings of lying demons and devils, obeying false doctrines and calling it the true message of Christ. (Kind of like how 99% of churches teach God loves all, forgives all, and Christ died for all).

Furthermore, the true followers of Christ who hold fast to the word, will be a pitifully small number, and they will be fiercely attacked, persecuted, and hated by those who claim to be the true followers, but are in reality, just misled demon worshippers who are being held under the sway of the False Prophet.


Pastor Phelps is one such Pastor, a member of the pitifully small number of Christians who has not fallen into listening to demons. He preaches the word of Christ, the TRUE word of Christ, and he is one of only a few men in the USA, who has the courage and moral compass to continue doing what is right despite all those who attack him and condemn him.


God Bless you Pastor Phelps!

Normally, I can tollerate religous zelots, because they usually understand the simpleness of God's love, and God's grace being available to all, but you and Phelps........

I hope when I finally do get that clear shot at Phelps' pea brain with my 30 30, you have your cx&k in his mouth, so I can shoot you in the nuts, and only use one bullet, because that's all the two of you are worth.

Please don't compare a pastor as great as Phelps to those as low as Graham and Falwell. Phelps considers them to be lying demons who preach the false lie that God loves all and Jesus died for all. Anyway, look at the trappings and wealth of Graham, Falwell, and Robertson, they only preach for cash and wealth. Phelps lives a simple life and does not swindle folks out of their cash.

OK, so Falwell and Robertson are bad because...they aren't intolerant enough. Gotcha.

OBTW:
Yes, Adam's one sin brought condemnation upon everyone, but Christ's one act of righteousness makes all people right in God's sight and gives them life.
--Romans 5:18

I hope when I finally do get that clear shot at Phelps' pea brain with my 30 30, you have your cx&k in his mouth, so I can shoot you in the nuts, and only use one bullet, because that's all the two of you are worth.
Thou shalt not kill.

3. The Emperor of Terra Zetegenia does not find him important enough to deserve a 2, let alone a 1.

Thou shalt not kill.

Someone should remind Feddie about the part where it states 'thou shalt not bear false witness' as well as judging as God would. ;)

Sadly, there are people like my Political Science professor, who argue that people like Phelps, along with neo-Nazis and holocaust deniers, are not exercising free speech but "hate speech" and are not entitled to their Constituionally-guaranteed rights, while arguing that the Constitution does protect the rights of child molestors and pedophiles to [drawn and written] child pornography. :/

I take no part or parcel with groups like NAMBLA, the KKK, the Black Panthers, Aryan Nation or the Nation of Islam, but to arbitrarially outlaw their speech smacks of hypocrisy. It is not, of course, Dick & Jane readers that need protection -- it is unpopular speech which does.

It's truly awful. I'm not sure that Phelps is faced with any criminal charges, but if not he's certainly got it better than Ernst Zundel:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/03/01/zundel-050301.html
Poor Ernst Zundel.