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abortion...nooooo

Mir Town
25-02-2005, 23:01
shud abortion be legal? i don't see why killing babies because the parents are poor shud be okay. its inhumane
Sinuhue
25-02-2005, 23:03
shud abortion be legal? i don't see why killing babies because the parents are poor shud be okay. its inhumane
How do you manage to spell inhumane properly, but misspell should?
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:04
i think post birth abortion should be legal
Nadkor
25-02-2005, 23:05
here...we...go...again... :(
Haloman
25-02-2005, 23:05
i think post birth abortion should be legal

Did you even think before you posted this? Hows about we abort you?
Vittos Ordination
25-02-2005, 23:06
i think post birth abortion should be legal

Hooray for infanticide!!! But only the girls, we can send the boys out to work in the fields.
Kervoskia
25-02-2005, 23:06
Here comes a shitstorm....
Nadkor
25-02-2005, 23:06
Did you even think before you posted this? Hows about we abort you?
how about you dont take things so seriously
Haloman
25-02-2005, 23:07
Here comes a shitstorm....

Yeah...I had mexican for lunch yesterday and chinese for dinner.
Raylrynn
25-02-2005, 23:08
It is life, by the scientific definition of life, at conception.
The only way to justify an abortion is to not consider human life as sacred.
Many do not believe this way, but that is for another debate.
Don't quote hard cases at me. Hard cases make bad law.
Haloman
25-02-2005, 23:08
how about you dont take things so seriously

I wasn't. I was pointing out the stupidity of his post.
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:09
Hooray for infanticide!!! But only the girls, we can send the boys out to work in the fields.

exactly, and you can't get boys pregnant when you do em in the poop shoot
Nadkor
25-02-2005, 23:10
I wasn't. I was pointing out the stupidity of his post.
his post was humour, you should read into it
Swimmingpool
25-02-2005, 23:11
I think abortion should be legal. Pity that it's not and will remain that way for a long time.
Haloman
25-02-2005, 23:12
his post was humour, you should read into it

Heh, then it's a failed attempt at humor.
Nadkor
25-02-2005, 23:12
exactly, and you can't get boys pregnant when you do em in the poop shoot
you can get girls pregnant when you do em in the poop shoot?

:eek:
Nadkor
25-02-2005, 23:13
Heh, then it's a failed attempt at humor.
i found it funny...and so did the other person who replied to it obviously

just because you dont find something funny doesnt mean its not good humour, you know
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:13
I wasn't. I was pointing out the stupidity of his post.


chill out dude - I was only posting a stupid joke because thats what I think of your initial post and there have been way too many abortion debates on this forum already. If you are going to start a thread about something as deep as this, you should at least put forth a solid argument.
Kafer_mistress
25-02-2005, 23:14
I think abortion should be legal. who wants togive birth to the child of a rapist? can you faithfully say that it's better to bring a child into a world of poverty, starvation, illness and misery?

i also would like to make the point that i would like to see you in that position and having to make that choice for yourself or with your partner, before you come on here spouting this kind of bullshit excuse for a thread.
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:15
you can get girls pregnant when you do em in the poop shoot?

:eek:


no girls get pregnant from kissing boys - didnt you study for the quiz?
Sinuhue
25-02-2005, 23:15
shud abortion be legal? i don't see why killing babies because the parents are poor shud be okay. its inhumane
Yeah, let's just allow abortion for the rich:)
Vittos Ordination
25-02-2005, 23:15
you can get girls pregnant when you do em in the poop shoot?

:eek:

If you read the pamphlets the government is giving out, you would think so.
Haloman
25-02-2005, 23:16
well obviously when you were born they threw away the baby and kept the afterbirth.

chill out dude - I was only posting a stupid joke because thats what I think of your initial post and there have been way too many abortion debates on this forum already. If you are going to start a thread about something as deep as this, you should at least put forth a solid argument.

1) I didn't make the initial post.

2) Yes, there have been way too many abortion debates.
Nadkor
25-02-2005, 23:16
no girls get pregnant from kissing boys - didnt you study for the quiz?
damn, i knew i should have revised :mad:
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:17
Yeah, let's just allow abortion for the rich:)

good plan - then maybe they will have more money to give to the poor for their unwanted children
Nadkor
25-02-2005, 23:18
If you read the pamphlets the government is giving out, you would think so.
this sums that up nicely i think: :headbang:
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:18
1) I didn't make the initial post.

2) Yes, there have been way too many abortion debates.

1) my bad

2) oh yeah
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:19
Delete this now. There is no point for this.

And if anyone says anything about me being hypocritical, I have a snide comment for you.


but but but.... alright :p

I would still like to hear yoru snide comment about me - please :)
Haloman
25-02-2005, 23:19
1) my bad

2) oh yeah

And I apologize for taking your post seriously.
Taldaan
25-02-2005, 23:20
Post-birth abortion should be legal all the way through a person's life. As babies can be aborted for birth defects, why not carry the principle over to everyone else?

For instance, if someone loses an arm because of a stupid mistake (the Iraq War comes to mind) then they are obviously imperfect and can be aborted.
Post-birth abortion could help with so many things. The obesity epidemic, HIV/AIDS, ugly people, all of these could be removed with good old genocide, leaving the world with perfect people. By doing this, we do the world a favour. After all, do you want AIDS? Do you want to wake up after a night of drinking with someone who looks like they have been carved out of marshmallow creme? No? I thought not.

Anyway, we will be doing the dead a favour. Would they really want to live when they are so painfully deformed? Hell no! If we didn't kill them, they would only be slicing their wrists, and that would cause far more pain to their families than execution. Plus, we can carry it out quickly and painlessly. After all, this isn't state-sanctioned murder, it's euthanasia!
Vittos Ordination
25-02-2005, 23:22
but but but.... alright :p

I would still like to hear yoru snide comment about me - please :)

Nope, not now, I will save that for someone more deserving.




In other words I didn't have one.
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:23
And I apologize for taking your post seriously.

:fluffle:
Broheliande
25-02-2005, 23:24
shud abortion be legal? i don't see why killing babies because the parents are poor shud be okay. its inhumane

I don't see why killing the parents' lives because the pill didn't work or because they couldn't afford it should be any less inhumane. Or having the results grow up with parents that hate them and will probably beat em up once a day. Are you going to take care of the unwanted children and the psychotic families?

Stop, in the name of your own philosophy, eating meat, eggs and dairy products and then come posting such ... again.
Kiara II
25-02-2005, 23:24
I think that all types should be legal, except partial birth. Sometimes there are complications in which both the mother and baby could die, then something needs to be done. Also, what if the girl was raped? It's not as if she chose that! Trust me, no one would choose it! I mean, I know from experience that the state system for orphans or homes is AWEFUL! Granted, not all cases are bad, but its still not fun. It's not so inhumane when you look at the alternatives. In fact, it saves them from going through a lot of hell.
Vittos Ordination
25-02-2005, 23:24
Oh, happy days in the abortion thread.
Sumamba Buwhan
25-02-2005, 23:28
Oh, happy days in the abortion thread.

lol
i feel so warm and fuzzy inside
Danubium
25-02-2005, 23:36
shud abortion be legal? i don't see why killing babies because the parents are poor shud be okay. its inhumane

Using that logic, it would have been perfectly reasonable to have terminated President Abraham Lincoln (Sixteenth President of the United States) in his mother’s whom. If I recall correctly, he was raised in a crude log cabin out in Kentucky.

I think there is something wrong with that, wouldn’t you agree, Mir Town?
Danubium
25-02-2005, 23:40
Stop, in the name of your own philosophy, eating meat, eggs and dairy products and then come posting such ... again.

With utmost respect, Broheliande, it is my understanding that the abortion debate is chiefly concerned with fertilized cells (that have indeed begun to multiply). Doesn't the fact of fertilization undermine your argument here of not eating eggs?
Nitrony
26-02-2005, 00:00
I myself think its bad. But a good point was mentioned if the person was raped. I mean, then what? I don't believe in it myself, but It's really up to the mother I think.
Ashmoria
26-02-2005, 00:04
Post-birth abortion should be legal all the way through a person's life. As babies can be aborted for birth defects, why not carry the principle over to everyone else?

For instance, if someone loses an arm because of a stupid mistake (the Iraq War comes to mind) then they are obviously imperfect and can be aborted.
Post-birth abortion could help with so many things. The obesity epidemic, HIV/AIDS, ugly people, all of these could be removed with good old genocide, leaving the world with perfect people. By doing this, we do the world a favour. After all, do you want AIDS? Do you want to wake up after a night of drinking with someone who looks like they have been carved out of marshmallow creme? No? I thought not.

Anyway, we will be doing the dead a favour. Would they really want to live when they are so painfully deformed? Hell no! If we didn't kill them, they would only be slicing their wrists, and that would cause far more pain to their families than execution. Plus, we can carry it out quickly and painlessly. After all, this isn't state-sanctioned murder, it's euthanasia!

yes but remember that only the MOTHER can make the choice of abortion. so if your mother could be convinced that it was time for you to go, you would be "euthanized".
DHomme
26-02-2005, 00:24
Screw it, lets just kill everyone. No more abortion after that
Der Lieben
26-02-2005, 00:28
I don't see why killing the parents' lives because the pill didn't work or because they couldn't afford it should be any less inhumane. Or having the results grow up with parents that hate them and will probably beat em up once a day. Are you going to take care of the unwanted children and the psychotic families?

Stop, in the name of your own philosophy, eating meat, eggs and dairy products and then come posting such ... again.

Oh, poor parents, I feel so sorry for them. :( :rolleyes:

No, seriously Mir Town, I don't believe anyone here is advocating murder. the arguement is rather, if it is murder or not. Maybe I'm just being naive, but thats how it seems to me.
Alomogordo
26-02-2005, 00:32
shud abortion be legal? i don't see why killing babies because the parents are poor shud be okay. its inhumane
Nobody plans on abortion. No one wakes up and says "OK, I'll brush my teeth, get dressed, go to work, and maybe later I'll get an abortion". Abortions are very complex and troubling decisions for all parents. And what made you decide that people only get abortions because the parents are poor. What if the mother was raped? What if their birth control methods failed? Abortion is not killing babies. Unless by babies you mean microscopic clusters of cells.
Alomogordo
26-02-2005, 00:35
I think that all types should be legal, except partial birth. Sometimes there are complications in which both the mother and baby could die, then something needs to be done. Also, what if the girl was raped? It's not as if she chose that! Trust me, no one would choose it! I mean, I know from experience that the state system for orphans or homes is AWEFUL! Granted, not all cases are bad, but its still not fun. It's not so inhumane when you look at the alternatives. In fact, it saves them from going through a lot of hell.
Partial birth abortions are very disturbing, but they are extremely RARE. Most people do not feel comfortable aborting five month old fetuses. Notice I said fetuses, not babies.
Schlurven-Gypsy
26-02-2005, 01:00
It is life, by the scientific definition of life, at conception.
The only way to justify an abortion is to not consider human life as sacred.
Many do not believe this way, but that is for another debate.
Don't quote hard cases at me. Hard cases make bad law.

Life being life from conception is debatable. For the most part it is people who believe in the Natural Law argument that life is sacred from conception because (according to that argument) it is life. Meanwhile, for the less religious for us, we may accept a more Kantian viewpoint: that life comes from sentience, which (according to Kant) wasn't fully present in humans until the age of about 12. Meanwhile it is scientifically proven that an embryo feels pain at 12 weeks gestation.

I am currently searching for a viewpoint on abortion. I live in the UK, where abortion is legal 'til 24 weeks. I currently have a Kantian-type view that we should be allowed autonomy depending on the situation. A rape case would be different from when abortion is used as a late form of contraception.
Buechoria
26-02-2005, 01:00
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Super-power
26-02-2005, 01:18
I'm against abortion (exceptions being rape and the mother's life at risk), but it's a Catch-22 situation.

Abortion is illegal: Even if it's illegal, making something illegal won't stop it. There will now be unsafe, back-alley abortions which put the mother at risk

Abortion is legal: Well, it's legal and there is abortion, even if the mother isn't at risk.

:(