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I shit you not!

Source (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12355849-13762,00.html)


Students protest extra day off
From correspondents in Baquba
February 24, 2005

HUNDREDS of Iraqi students have demonstrated to protest a government decision to extend the weekend to include Saturday, denouncing the scheme as a "Zionist plot".
Irate high school students marched through Baquba, northeast of Baghdad, denouncing outgoing Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's decision to extend the weekend from the traditional Islamic holy day of Friday to include Saturday.

"We don't want Saturday as it is a Jewish holiday," the crowd chanted.

Saturday is the weekly Jewish day of rest, the Sabbath, when all forms of work and business are barred for observant Jews.

But it is also a day off, if not a holy day, in most places around the world - including in many Arab countries where banks and government offices remain closed.

"The decision to include Saturday as a rest day is the start of Zionist plans in Iraq," read a banner at the demonstration, organised by the Baquba Students' Union.

Students carrying Iraqi flags also chanted: "Let Muslims here raise their hands: we don't want holiday on Saturday."

While there was reportedly a similar demonstration in the town of Ramadi on Tuesday, participants did not reject outright the option of having another day off during the week - just as long as it isn't Saturday.

"We organised this demonstration in protest at considering Saturday a holiday. We prefer it to be Thursday. Saturday is a holiday for Jews and we are Muslims and reject that decision," said high-school student Mohammed Abbas, 17.

Allawi's government announced the doubling of weekend leisure time earlier this month, adding that the move did not affect the private sector.

The cabinet stressed at the time that government employees would have to work longer days during the week in order to benefit from the Saturday bonus.

Wednesday's demonstration lasted an hour and a half and ended after protestors had voiced their complaint outside the governor's office.

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some of a people are a bit paranoid of the influence of jews in the world.

Damn. Christian plots on Sundays, Zionist plots on Saturdays, that hardly leaves any time for my pagan plots on MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursdayFridays!

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How singularly odd...

I say we counter protest, demanding the America offically adopt Friday and Monday into the weekend. That'll show them.

I can't decide whether to laugh or... no wait, I lie. It's an easy choice.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Morons. All of them. 'Zionist plot' indeed *snicker*

Well we could rename Saturday as 'Refriday,' who'd ever know? ;)

Damn. Christian plots on Sundays, Zionist plots on Saturdays, that hardly leaves any time for my pagan plots on MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursdayFridays!

LMAO!!!

what exactly would be the ulterior motive of a zionist plot extend the weekend vacation by one day?

Assuming for the sake of argument that Saturday as a holiday was a plot (zionist or otherwise) that ought not be tolerated, why suggest Thursday instead...surely Monday would be better since that would at least keep the two holidays together?

Assuming for the sake of argument that Saturday as a holiday was a plot (zionist or otherwise) that ought not be tolerated, why suggest Thursday instead...surely Monday would be better since that would at least keep the two holidays together?

Because Muslims don't have Sunday off, they have Friday off so Thursday will keep the two days together.

If it's that big of a deal I don't see why the Iraqi government doesn't just give in and make it Thursday instead. There's no net loss of weekend and Saturday isn't all that special, anyway.

If it's that big of a deal I don't see why the Iraqi government doesn't just give in and make it Thursday instead. There's no net loss of weekend and Saturday isn't all that special, anyway.
Because then all your businesses are closed Thursday and everyone else's businesses are closed Saturday, so you have to close yours anyway since there's no one to deal with. Essentially creating a four day weekend.

Because Muslims don't have Sunday off, they have Friday off so Thursday will keep the two days together.
Well that being the case, if one assumes the truth of reason given for not having Saturday as a holiday, Thursday does make sense after all...

Because then all your businesses are closed Thursday and everyone else's businesses are closed Saturday, so you have to close yours anyway since there's no one to deal with. Essentially creating a four day weekend.

Who is "everyone else's businesses"? This is a demand being made in a Muslim country right? So... if the only holiday is currently on a Friday then the only holiday is Friday...

Anyway, if they added Thursday and "everyone else's businesses" were closed Saturday... that's three days, not four. Unless you're thinking of Sunday but that isn't a holiday (from what I gather in this article) anyway.

Who is "everyone else's businesses"? This is a demand being made in a Muslim country right? So... if the only holiday is currently on a Friday then the only holiday is Friday...

Anyway, if they added Thursday and "everyone else's businesses" were closed Saturday... that's three days, not four. Unless you're thinking of Sunday but that isn't a holiday (from what I gather in this article) anyway.

I think he means everyone else as in other countries, including other Muslim countries.

Who is "everyone else's businesses"? This is a demand being made in a Muslim country right? So... if the only holiday is currently on a Friday then the only holiday is Friday...

Anyway, if they added Thursday and "everyone else's businesses" were closed Saturday... that's three days, not four. Unless you're thinking of Sunday but that isn't a holiday (from what I gather in this article) anyway.
Iraqi banks can't deal with Turkish banks on Saturday. Turkish banks can't deal with Iraqi banks on Thursday, if this goes through. Things like that.

Iraqi banks can't deal with Turkish banks on Saturday. Turkish banks can't deal with Iraqi banks on Thursday, if this goes through. Things like that.

We deal with differences in timezones with apparent ease... a day or two here and there should matter.

Besides, if some group here started protesting to have a day added to the weekend I sure as hell wouldn't try and stop them :D

Particularly if the reality of it meant a 4 day weekend!! :eek:

We deal with differences in timezones with apparent ease... a day or two here and there should matter.

Besides, if some group here started protesting to have a day added to the weekend I sure as hell wouldn't try and stop them :D

Particularly if the reality of it meant a 4 day weekend!! :eek:
Yeah, but this would mess them up for neighboring countries in the same time zone.

That the threat of a day off requires them to protest? As someone else put here - How singularly odd.

If it's that big of a deal I don't see why the Iraqi government doesn't just give in and make it Thursday instead. There's no net loss of weekend and Saturday isn't all that special, anyway.

Because then the Jews would be too busy working and going to school to transform into their giant robot forms and take over the country (they can only transform on Saturdays). You're missing the point of the Zionist plot.

Yes! It's a Zionist plot! That's it, Zionist plot...

What are you looking at?
It has nothing whatsoever to do with us.

Really.

Would we lie to you?

I shit you not!

Source (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12355849-13762,00.html)

*sigh*

This is what happens when Christians go into a Muslim nation and try to impose their values. To all you people who can't understand this protest, go out in the world and try to figure out that your way is not the way of the world.

Calling it a "zionist plot" is a bit extreme, yes, but to force Muslims to see Saturday as a "weekend" is forcing your world view on a nation that didn't want you there in the first place.

Sure, the Zionist plot ranting is just that, ranting from people who are particularly sensitive at the moment and all fired up.

The choice of when they want to have as holidays though is their business and theirs alone, the Iraqi government is trying to put in place something which fits with surrounding countries and economies. Some of their people want to see any change from the old ways as a Zionist plot, if they want to choose a day which is out of sync with their neighbours, so be it, let them convince their government first. If they do manage it, doubtful, maybe in a few more years they'll change their minds after they've seen what it does to them economically.

In every Gulf country, with the exception of Qatar, America's "51st state", the official government holiday is Thursday or Friday.. until the last few years that is. I THINK Qatar's weekend is Friday and Saturday.. at least that's what I recall.

Measures are being taken to shift the weekend from Thursdays and Fridays to Fridays and Saturdays in other countries as well, and governments are hesitant to go through with it because what happened in Iraq will happen everywhere else in the Gulf.

The formal Muslim holiday is Friday. Traditionally, Thursday has been given as a holiday as well. The decision by the scum "Allawi" to extend the holiday to cover Saturday was pointless. Just give 'em Thursday like their Arab neighbors FFS!

Sure, the Zionist plot ranting is just that, ranting from people who are particularly sensitive at the moment and all fired up.

The choice of when they want to have as holidays though is their business and theirs alone, the Iraqi government is trying to put in place something which fits with surrounding countries and economies. Some of their people want to see any change from the old ways as a Zionist plot, if they want to choose a day which is out of sync with their neighbours, so be it, let them convince their government first. If they do manage it, doubtful, maybe in a few more years they'll change their minds after they've seen what it does to them economically.
The british drive on the left side of the road and the americans use miles. It doesn't seem to be that a big blow to the economy.

And you should see how they react when the government is suggesting to use meters. They call it european plot and they are up in arms waving their flags.
Or watch the british defending their pound.

some of a people are a bit paranoid of the influence of jews in the world.

Really, its not like jews are going to be taking over the middle east any time soon. :rolleyes:

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This is what happens when Christians go into a Muslim nation and try to impose their values. To all you people who can't understand this protest, go out in the world and try to figure out that your way is not the way of the world.

Calling it a "zionist plot" is a bit extreme, yes, but to force Muslims to see Saturday as a "weekend" is forcing your world view on a nation that didn't want you there in the first place.

I find it amusing that people think this is so funny and outragous. As you say "Zionist plot" is extreme but I do not think the kids in America would be too happy if a foreign power invaded and then said " Hey enough if this having Sat and Sun off you will go to school 7 days a week now.

Oh the outrage and crying you would hear.

The USA needs so desperately to get out of the Middle east they are not bringing peace to the region at all but more despair and more anamosity.

And anyone who thinks giving them Sat off is giving them freedom needs mental work done.

I find it amusing that people think this is so funny and outragous. As you say "Zionist plot" is extreme but I do not think the kids in America would be too happy if a foreign power invaded and then said " Hey enough if this having Sat and Sun off you will go to school 7 days a week now.

Oh the outrage and crying you would hear.

The USA needs so desperately to get out of the Middle east they are not bringing peace to the region at all but more despair and more anamosity.

And anyone who thinks giving them Sat off is giving them freedom needs mental work done.

Its not really giving them freedom, its about giving them a days rest, which maybee just shouldn't be done because the iraqis are just going to bitch and moan about it and give the prime minister more problems on an issue that isnt that important

Its not really giving them freedom, its about giving them a days rest

But they've already got them! Pay attention. Yeesh!

But they've already got them! Pay attention. Yeesh!

ummm...did you read the rest of the post? Keywords: SHOULDN"T-BE-DONE?

ummm...did you read the rest of the post? Keywords: SHOULDN"T-BE-DONE?

Yeah ... "shouldn't be done because the iraqis are just going to bitch and moan about it".

Real nice.

Damn. Christian plots on Sundays, Zionist plots on Saturdays, that hardly leaves any time for my pagan plots on MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursdayFridays!


Actually all of the days of the week are named for pagan things.

Saturn's Day
Sun's Day
Moon's Day
Tiu's Day
Woden's Day
Thor's Day
Freya's Day

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/astronomy/q0128.shtml

Yeah ... "shouldn't be done because the iraqis are just going to bitch and moan about it".

Real nice.

yep, i thought so too. ok more nicely- they will protest it endlessly and stir up more anti-west and anti-jewish feelings throughout the country

yep, i thought so too. ok more nicely- they will protest it endlessly and stir up more anti-west and anti-jewish feelings throughout the country

Anti-Jewish, no, not necessarily. Islam is not anti-Jewish. As a matter of fact, Islam teaches that being anti-Jewish is a sin.

Anti-West? Sure, why not? When someone comes into your country and tells you how to live, you'd be anti-them as well.

Actually all of the days of the week are named for pagan things.

Saturn's Day
Sun's Day
Moon's Day
Tiu's Day
Woden's Day
Thor's Day
Freya's Day

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/astronomy/q0128.shtml
Ha, so Santa Barabara's plot was successful!

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This is what happens when Christians go into a Muslim nation and try to impose their values. To all you people who can't understand this protest, go out in the world and try to figure out that your way is not the way of the world.

Calling it a "zionist plot" is a bit extreme, yes, but to force Muslims to see Saturday as a "weekend" is forcing your world view on a nation that didn't want you there in the first place.
The idea is that of an Arab Muslim, Mr. Allawi, and is apparantly not something Muslims have a problem with in other Muslim countries.

Why do you insist on defending anti-Semetism?

Anti-Jewish, no, not necessarily. Islam is not anti-Jewish. As a matter of fact, Islam teaches that being anti-Jewish is a sin.


Yet clearly the people are.

I'm beginning to think it's a definate possibility that I am just a Zionist plot too!

Who is "everyone else's businesses"? This is a demand being made in a Muslim country right? So... if the only holiday is currently on a Friday then the only holiday is Friday...

Anyway, if they added Thursday and "everyone else's businesses" were closed Saturday... that's three days, not four. Unless you're thinking of Sunday but that isn't a holiday (from what I gather in this article) anyway.
It's a global economy. If Iraq's oil companies and import/export companies are forced to be closed on Thursday as well as Friday they will have only 3 business days/week to trade with the rest of the world. Probably not too good for the economy.

Anti-Jewish, no, not necessarily. Islam is not anti-Jewish. As a matter of fact, Islam teaches that being anti-Jewish is a sin.

Anti-West? Sure, why not? When someone comes into your country and tells you how to live, you'd be anti-them as well.
They're calling it a zionist plot, dude. Not an evil western conspiracy, a zionist plot. Clearly they are blaming the Jews.

Actually all of the days of the week are named for pagan things.

Saturn's Day
Sun's Day
Moon's Day
Tiu's Day
Woden's Day
Thor's Day
Freya's Day

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/astronomy/q0128.shtml

So you say. But I have it on good authority that Saturday is named by the Zionist Conspirators!

They're calling it a zionist plot, dude. Not an evil western conspiracy, a zionist plot. Clearly they are blaming the Jews.
JEWS ARE NOT ALL ZIONISTS.

It's a global economy. If Iraq's oil companies and import/export companies are forced to be closed on Thursday as well as Friday they will have only 3 business days/week to trade with the rest of the world. Probably not too good for the economy.
Come on. Iraqi economy is not that dependant on oil. Only western economy is.
Basically Iraq can do whatever the fuck they want to do and the rest of the world will have to adapt because Iraq has the oil. It is not the other way around.

JEWS ARE NOT ALL ZIONISTS.
I know. Zionist is, however, a code word for Jews among many anti-semites. Ever notice that the skinheads are always ranting about ZOG? It means Zionist Occupied Government. They think Jews run the US and refer to all of them a Zionists.

Come on. Iraqi economy is not that dependant on oil. Only western economy is.
The entire middle east minus Israel has a GDP less than that of Sweden if you remove the oil. Oil is the main source of foreign capital in most middle-eastern nations.

I know. Zionist is, however, a code word for Jews among many anti-semites. Ever notice that the skinheads are always ranting about ZOG? It means Zionist Occupied Government. They think Jews run the US and refer to all of them a Zionists.
In the case of iraqis, when they say zionists, they mean zionists. They're the first target of zionists.
It is like in the western world when you talk about evil nazis, you're not necessarily against all aryan people. sometimes people in the UK exagerate to call small things like the euro money nazi. Likewise, they call small things like the implementing of Sabath holidays zionist.

The entire middle east minus Israel has a GDP less than that of Sweden if you remove the oil. Oil is the main source of foreign capital in most middle-eastern nations.
They don't need foreign capital. They need foreigners not to destroy their country that's all.

They don't need foreign capital. They need foreigners not to destroy their country that's all.
No, I really think they need money too.

These Muslims need to be "cured" of their religious conservatism. :fluffle:

These Muslims need to be "cured" of their religious conservatism. :fluffle:
They need more porn, alcohol, and gay marriage.

I say we counter protest, demanding the America offically adopt Friday and Monday into the weekend. That'll show them.

Agreed! But let's demand all nations participating in the war adopts Friday and Monday as official extensions. It's only fair we support carrying this heavy burden...

They need more porn, alcohol, and gay marriage.

Who doesn't? :)

After reading the article, how many of them can vote? These are HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS!

I know that if 18 yo High School students protest here in the states, they would be listen too because they are of voting age. how many of these people are of voting age?

Yea they should be heard anyway, but as people been saying on here, having only 3 business days to conduct business is not healthy to any government. Someone mentioned driving on the left side of the road and the US using miles? That doesn't affect the economy. Doing business 3 days a week? That affects business dealing.

For timezones, we deal with it but everyone normally works the same so it isn't that big a deal. Having a day off where everyone else works and working when no one else does? That's a big deal.

Who doesn't? :)

Porn? Not me

Alcholal? Not me

Gay Marriage? no but I would support civil union with limited benefits.

Porn? Not me

Alcholal? Not me

Gay Marriage? no but I would support civil union with limited benefits.
I guess you have just enough porn and alcohol. I've always wondered, how much is enough?

I know. Zionist is, however, a code word for Jews among many anti-semites. Ever notice that the skinheads are always ranting about ZOG? It means Zionist Occupied Government. They think Jews run the US and refer to all of them a Zionists.
I never rant about ZOG. And i am a skinhead. Just like not all jews are zionists, not all skinheads are antisemites, nazis, rightwing... You get the drift. No use differentiating there and painting with the big brush here.

I never rant about ZOG. And i am a skinhead. Just like not all jews are zionists, not all skinheads are antisemites, nazis, rightwing... You get the drift. No use differentiating there and painting with the big brush here.
Right. I know better, I was just being lazy.

No, I really think they need money too.
OK first when the embargo stops they may have to use money. The money will come from the sale of oil. Oil can be sold on mondays or on Saturday, it doesn't change a thing. Actually the best way to make money is not to sell the oil too soon because it will be more and more expensive with time. And best is to sell it in Euros because euros will have more value in the future. With that they can buy military hardware to protect themselves from Israel and the US. They can as well invade Koweit and Qatar anf finally put an end to western colonization.

I guess you have just enough porn and alcohol. I've always wondered, how much is enough?

Porn? Never touched it

Alcohol? Rarely drink it

OK first when the embargo stops they may have to use money. The money will come from the sale of oil. Oil can be sold on mondays or on Saturday, it doesn't change a thing. Actually the best way to make money is not to sell the oil too soon because it will be more and more expensive with time. And best is to sell it in Euros because euros will have more value in the future. With that they can buy military hardware to protect themselves from Israel and the US. They can as well invade Koweit and Qatar anf finally put an end to western colonization.
Nope, hold on to the oil too long and it becomes next to worthless. What? Do you actually think that as oil becomes scarce other sources of energy won't come online to replace it? Rich people don't get that way by being stupid or ignoring trends. Oil can be sold, but try to get a hold of the Exxon offices on saturday. It's alot harder than on Thursday. Business is done by negotiating deals. As for military hardware, the US makes the best in the world. European stuff is good, but not as good. Also the US and Israel won't have to invade if the government is moderate.

Porn? Never touched it

Alcohol? Rarely drink it
Never touched porn? I guess that's ok. The point isn't to touch the porn, but to touch yourself while watching the porn.

Never touched porn? I guess that's ok. The point isn't to touch the porn, but to touch yourself while watching the porn.

Porn? Never looked at it

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i agree WTF :confused:

ofcourse there would b a problem:thursday/friday the rest of world economy is still going,if companies in iraq are closed they cant do business on those days on a larger scale.
If iraq ever wants to b a player on world economy again they better stick with the international ways which is saturday and sunday are weekend.
Eventhough friday is an important day to go to mosks most shops close for just a couple of hours and then re-open again.

Porn? Never looked at it
You poor, poor man. Shall I send you a care package of DVDs and magazines?

You poor, poor man. Shall I send you a care package of DVDs and magazines?

No thanks. I'm a God fearing man!

No thanks. I'm a God fearing man!
Ok, your loss. BTW god ain't that scary, at least to me.

Yet clearly the people are.

No, they're not. Anti-Zionism does not equal Anti-Jewish.

Before you star ... remember that I *am* Jewish.

I know. Zionist is, however, a code word for Jews among many anti-semites.

Only among skinheads and neo-nazis, not among Muslims.