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Why Are Blacks So Violent Against Whites?

Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 05:10
This is not looking for flaming or such, but I simply desire a response from an negro and/ or a liberal apologist as to how these sorts of "rap lyrics" are justified without being rebuked as "hate."

[The lyrics used by black rappers here are not pretty- I left them unadulterated here in the raw at first but if there is any problem with certain words being used, then the moderators can edit such problems]

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“Kill the white people; we gonna make them hurt; kill the white people; but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha”
(“Kill d’White People”; Apache, Apache Ain’t Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.)

“Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. . . . the white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I’m recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. . . . let’s go and kill some rednecks. . . . Menace Clan ain’t afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think I’m crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I’m gonna blast. . . . I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground”;
(“Kill Whitey”; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)

“White Devils fear this brand new shit. . . . I bleed them next time I see them. . . . I pray on these devils. . . . look what it has come to; who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing. . . . filling his body up with lead, yah; cracker in my way; slitting, slit his throat; watch his body shake; watch his body shake; that’s how we do it in the motherfucking [San Francisco] Bay. . . . sitting on the dock of the dirty with my AK”;
(“Heat—featuring Jet and Spice 1”; Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records, Whirling Records.)

“These devils make me sick; I love to fill them full of holes; kill them all in the daytime, broad motherfucking daylight; 12 o’clock, grab the Glock; why wait for night”
(“Sweatin Bullets”; Brand Nubian, Everything Is Everything, 1994, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.)

“A fight, a fight, a ****** and a white, if the ****** don’t win then we all jump in. . . . smoking all [of] America’s white boys”;
(“A Fight”; Apache, Apache Ain’t Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.)

“I kill a devil right now. . . . I say kill whitey all nightey long. . . . I stabbed a fucking Jew with a steeple. . . . I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fuck of it. . . . Menace Clan kill a cracker; jack ‘em even quicker. . . . catch that devil slipping; blow his fucking brains out”
(“Fuck a Record Deal”; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI; called The EMI Group since 1997, United Kingdom.)

“Now I’m black but black people trip [become upset] ‘cause white people like me; white people like me but don’t like them. . . . I don’t hate whites, I just gotta death wish for motherfuckers that ain’t right”
(“Race War”; Ice-T, Home Invasion, 1993, Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)

“To all my Universal Soldier’s: stay at attention while I strategize an invasion; the mission be ssassination, snipers hitting Caucasians with semi-automatic shots heard around the world; my plot is to control the globe and hold the world hostage. . . . see, I got a war plan more deadlier than Hitler. . . . lyrical specialist, underworld terrorist. . . . keep the unity thick like mud. . . . I pulling out gats [handguns], launching deadly attacks”
(“Blood for Blood”; Killarmy, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, 1997, Wu-Tang Records, Priority Records, The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)

“Lead to the head of you devils”
(“Lick Dem Muthaphuckas—Remix”; Brand Nubian, Everything Is Everything, 1994, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.)

“The black man is god. . . . buy a Tec [and] let loose in the Vatican. . . . I love the black faces; so put your Bible in the attic”
(“Ain’t No Mystery”; Brand Nubian, In God We Trust, 1992, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.)

“This will all be over in ‘99, so, niggas, give devils the crime; gonna be more devils dying”
(“No Surrender”; Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, Creepin on ah Come Up, 1994, Ruthless Records, Epic Records, Sony Music Entertainment, Sony, Japan.)

“Won’t be satisfied until the devils—I see them all dead. . . . my brother is sending me more guns from down South. . . . pale face. . . . it’s all about brothers rising up, wising up, sizing up our situation. . . . you be fucking with my turf when you be fucking with my race; now face your maker and take your last breadth; the time is half-past death. . . . it’s the Armageddon. . . . go into the garage; find that old camouflage. . . . cracker-shooting nightly”
(“What the Fuck”; Brand Nubian, Everything Is Everything, 1994, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.)

“.44 ways to get paid. . . . I’m through with talking to these devils; now I’m ready to blast”
(“44 Wayz—featuring Mystic”; Paris, Unleashed, 1998, Unleashed Records, Whirling Records.)

“Like my niggas from South Central Los Angeles they found that they couldn’t handle us; Bloods, CRIPS, on the same squad, with the Essays [Latino gangbangers] up, and nigga, it’s time to rob and mob and break the white man off something lovely”
(“The Day the Niggaz Took Over”; Dr Dre, The Chronic, 1993, Interscope Records, under Time Warner in 1993.)

Many more where these come from... and the violent actions negroes have taken against Whites as a result...
Xhadam
23-02-2005, 05:30
Congrats on stereotyping several ethnic groups on the basis of a handful of rappers saying stupid crap. I suppose all whites must hate blacks too because of the KKK. :rolleyes:
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 05:35
The statistics speak for themselves...

According to FBI Crime Reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.
Hakartopia
23-02-2005, 05:37
Congrats on stereotyping several ethnic groups on the basis of a handful of rappers saying stupid crap. I suppose all whites must hate blacks too because of the KKK. :rolleyes:

Yet amusingly enough, he never said 'all blacks'.
EmoBuddy
23-02-2005, 05:38
Congrats on stereotyping several ethnic groups on the basis of a handful of rappers saying stupid crap. I suppose all whites must hate blacks too because of the KKK. :rolleyes:
He does have a point though - we tolerate this kind of extreme racism in rappers yet ostracize whites with a similar message regarding blacks. My solution: don't tell another race that you want to rape, kill, and mutilate all of its members.
EmoBuddy
23-02-2005, 05:40
The statistics speak for themselves...

According to FBI Crime Reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.
That doesn't necessarily prove that all/most blacks want to kill whites - just that the black crime rate is very high.
Mentholyptus
23-02-2005, 05:40
Why Is DF Such a Troll On This Forum?
Colodia
23-02-2005, 05:41
The statistics speak for themselves...

According to FBI Crime Reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks. (Ratio of 18:1??!?!?!?!?!)
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992. (Sorry man, but I really don't think that stealing $2 and raping should be grouped together)
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites. (Seriously...wtf...)
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18. (Top 3 causes of deaths for teens: accidents, homocides, and suicides.)
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white. (Well duh, whites are a majority)
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1. (Well duh, cuz its interracial...)
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods. (Black neighborhoods = typically low-class cities, White = typically suburbs)
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.

After the black neighborhood, white neighborhood deal, I got sick of doing this. So...whatever.
Demented Hamsters
23-02-2005, 05:42
Yep, it's not like Blacks have ever been badly treated by Whites or anything.
Xhadam
23-02-2005, 05:42
Yet amusingly enough, he never said 'all blacks'.
Why Are Blacks So Violent Against
Why Are Blacks

If I said "why are Christians so stupid?", do you think Christians would say "Oh, gee, he didn't say all Christians so its okay". Somehow, I doubt it.

He does have a point though - we tolerate this kind of extreme racism in rappers yet ostracize whites with a similar message regarding blacks. My solution: don't tell another race that you want to rape, kill, and mutilate all of its members. I'm not sure that is true. Nobody I know is more tolerant of Black supremecists than they are white ones. Tons of organizations are out lobbying against just the kind of thing he described, parents groups of assorted kinds to name one.
EmoBuddy
23-02-2005, 05:43
Why Is DF Such a Troll On This Forum?
Bored maybe? He doesn't seem to possess the fire and enthusiasm of other trolls like Jesussaves.
Hakartopia
23-02-2005, 05:44
Yep, it's not like Blacks have ever been badly treated by Whites or anything.

That's not really an excuse now is it?

"These people have treated me bad! And that's bad! So to show it'd bad, I'm going to treat them the same way, which... is... bad too? Er..."
Neo-Anarchists
23-02-2005, 05:45
Bored maybe? He doesn't seem to possess the fire and enthusiasm of other trolls like Jesussaves.
Judging by the number of account's he's had forumbanned, DF has lots of enthusiasm.
Hecticia
23-02-2005, 05:46
I find it funny how, blacks call whites, white, they dont get offended, yet when whites call blacks, black, alot do.




This smilie is a racist.
:sniper:
Liebermonk
23-02-2005, 05:46
Ahem...
I must as well point out a few facts..
those lyrics are by a few idiots who are ruining the name of their own race
African Americans have an unfortunate high level of crime, but not all are bad

Using a small number of examples is bad:
Therefore this means all whites are KKK
all Hispanics are MEChA
all Islamics are Al Qaeda

not all stereotypes are true

But another use of small examples:
Condi Rice... Collin Powel... Jesse Jackson.. Barack Obama (sp?)


see there are goods and bads in all races...
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 05:47
Why Is DF Such a Troll On This Forum?
Get out if you're going to start your ad-hominem style attacks again. The truth will be debated fairly here.
Swift Current
23-02-2005, 05:48
Yep, it's not like Blacks have ever been badly treated by Whites or anything.

I hope you're being sarcastic there.
Hecticia
23-02-2005, 05:48
see there are goods and bads in all races...


Would Micheal Jackson be concidered in both?
Neo-Anarchists
23-02-2005, 05:48
Servus, I like how you've biased the poll!
Very nice!
Too bad there's not an option saying "Neither blacks nor whites have any excuse to be racist."
Liebermonk
23-02-2005, 05:49
Would Micheal Jackson be concidered in both?


NO!
Micheal Jackson isnt even a human... so lets not use him as an example.
Colodia
23-02-2005, 05:49
Servus, I like how you've biased the poll!
Very nice!
Too bad there's not an option saying "Neither blacks nor whites have any excuse to be racist."
Tore the words right out my mouth.
The Agglomerate
23-02-2005, 05:50
The statistics speak for themselves...

According to FBI Crime Reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.

if these numbers included the white on black crimes that are not reported or noticed they would be much different

BTW;
Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.

these particular statstics have no place in a logical argument they are baseless ( no comparison is presented) and in some cases have no actual relation to the discussion at al (in the purview of the discussion of white versus black violence, what does the fact that violent crime has increased four times faster than population over the past twenty years have to do with anything?)
Bourbonsville
23-02-2005, 05:51
Ahem...
I must as well point out a few facts..
those lyrics are by a few idiots who are ruining the name of their own race
African Americans have an unfortunate high level of crime, but not all are bad

Using a small number of examples is bad:
Therefore this means all whites are KKK
all Hispanics are MEChA
all Islamics are Al Qaeda

not all stereotypes are true

But another use of small examples:
Condi Rice... Collin Powel... Jesse Jackson.. Barack Obama (sp?)


see there are goods and bads in all races...

Jesse Jackson is just as racist...
Hakartopia
23-02-2005, 05:51
Servus, I like how you've biased the poll!
Very nice!
Too bad there's not an option saying "Neither blacks nor whites have any excuse to be racist."

Maybe that's because this poll is about black people?
Land Sector A-7G
23-02-2005, 05:52
"Blacks" aren't more violent. I hang out with many "blacks" and i 've never experienced any violent tendencies. The reason more crimes are comitted by "blacks" is because many are economically disadvantaged. Whites would be doing the same thing in their spot. Its not a question of race but of social and economic equality
GoodThoughts
23-02-2005, 05:52
O CHILDREN OF MEN!
Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul, to walk with the same feet, eat with the same mouth and dwell in the same land, that from your inmost being, by your deeds and actions, the signs of oneness and the essence of detachment may be made manifest. Such is My counsel to you, O concourse of light! Heed ye this counsel that ye may obtain the fruit of holiness from the tree of wondrous glory

(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)
Marrakech II
23-02-2005, 05:52
Yep, it's not like Blacks have ever been badly treated by Whites or anything.

Let me ask anyone of my brothers out there. Do you know personally that your family was enslaved? I know mine wasnt.

Do you blame other nationalities on your problems without taking responsibility for yourself.

Do you feel that White people "Owe you" a way of life?

Do you think that you would be a king or queen in Africa if the "whites" didnt steal you from your homeland?

Finally ask yourself do you think your a "racist"
Liebermonk
23-02-2005, 05:53
Jesse Jackson is just as racist...

Racist... but the topic at hand is not racism.. its violence
Jesse Jackson supports non-violent promotion of a single race
Bourbonsville
23-02-2005, 05:55
Yep, it's not like Blacks have ever been badly treated by Whites or anything.

It's funny. I have never owned a slave. I have never discriminated against a black person. Yet, I still have plenty of them acting like I have. I get called whitey, white boy, cracker, fishbelly, all sorts of things.

That is freedom of expression.

What would happen if I said move ******?
It would be a "hate crime" or some crap.

However, move whitey or move cracker is fine.

Or even, move blackey... that would be horrible.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 05:55
if these numbers included the white on black crimes that are not reported or noticed they would be much different

Please, if a negro gets even a minor scratch after attacking Whites, the media will be all over this new "hate crime" or "bias crime." They always manage to search all over the country for that rare occurence when someone involved in a crime situation may be White and point this out. You are kidding here. That is definite. :rolleyes:
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 05:56
Racist... but the topic at hand is not racism.. its violence
Jesse Jackson supports non-violent promotion of a single race
Jackson has defended negro violence on numerous occasions...
Northside Brothers
23-02-2005, 05:56
lets look about white violence.

How many people hae died in Iraq, WW1, WW2?
How many Americans died in vietnam?

How many wars have black Americans or Europeans started?

Just because some rappers have figured out that violence sells does not mean the entire race should be called Violent.

I have seen countless video games marketed to white people that show white men running around shooting middle easterns.


also when bringing up the rap lyric debate dont forget that its white people paying the rappers to write that crap.
Bourbonsville
23-02-2005, 05:57
Racist... but the topic at hand is not racism.. its violence
Jesse Jackson supports non-violent promotion of a single race

I concede on that point. I read what someone else put about al queda, the KKK, and such and my mind got to thinking "ok, we're talking about racism here", so I kind of lost sight of what it actually was about.
Land Sector A-7G
23-02-2005, 05:58
lets look about white violence.

How many people hae died in Iraq, WW1, WW2?
How many Americans died in vietnam?

How many wars have black Americans or Europeans started?

Just because some rappers have figured out that violence sells does not mean the entire race should be called Violent.

I have seen countless video games marketed to white people that show white men running around shooting middle easterns.


also when bringing up the rap lyric debate dont forget that its white people paying the rappers to write that crap.



Finally someone see's whats really out there
Liebermonk
23-02-2005, 05:58
Racism = bad
and thats that
not every person of a particular race is racist
many people of all races like all races
judgements on a race should not be on a few
judgements on a person should not be based upon race

so in the end... we should just act as if the idea of "race" does not exist, and that we are all just human
Bourbonsville
23-02-2005, 05:59
Jackson has defended negro violence on numerous occasions...

He does have a point there, however.
Islamigood
23-02-2005, 05:59
Congrats on stereotyping several ethnic groups on the basis of a handful of rappers saying stupid crap. I suppose all whites must hate blacks too because of the KKK. :rolleyes:
I was abotu to say the same thing but you beat me to it.

lsiten racism is extreme and it goes both ways. what asstounds me is that you actually spent the time to gather this information.
Islamigood
23-02-2005, 06:01
Racism = bad
and thats that
not every person of a particular race is racist
many people of all races like all races
judgements on a race should not be on a few
judgements on a person should not be based upon race

so in the end... we should just act as if the idea of "race" does not exist, and that we are all just human
what you are talking about is herressy in the eyes of most believers (right wing bible thumpers).
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:01
lets look about white violence.

How many people hae died in Iraq, WW1, WW2?
How many Americans died in vietnam?

How many wars have black Americans or Europeans started?

Just because some rappers have figured out that violence sells does not mean the entire race should be called Violent.

I have seen countless video games marketed to white people that show white men running around shooting middle easterns.

also when bringing up the rap lyric debate dont forget that its white people paying the rappers to write that crap.
Actually, Jews are primarily behind the Iraq war and video games about killing Arabs.

And who runs the record labels that hire these rappers and pays them for their "crap"(?)... Jews.
Liebermonk
23-02-2005, 06:02
Actually, Jews are primarily behind the Iraq war and video games about killing Arabs.

And who runs the record labels that hire these rappers and pays them for their "crap"(?)... Jews.


My God, do you like making yourself look like a complete and total ass.

I'm sorry, but its pretty obvious you just want attention.
Northside Brothers
23-02-2005, 06:03
Another point is that American Society tells African Americans that the only way for them to do anything in life is to be in sports or music. We basically tell blacks that if they are not good in these areas they should give up hope on having a happy life. Just look at american TV. Show me one black character in American media that is presented in a positive manner and i'll show you ten that are sterotyped in a negative way.
Xhadam
23-02-2005, 06:03
Actually, Jews are primarily behind the Iraq war and video games about killing Arabs.

And who runs the record labels that hire these rappers and pays them for their "crap"(?)... Jews.

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that you aren't going to back any of that crap up.
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 06:04
Actually, Jews are primarily behind the Iraq war and video games about killing Arabs.

And who runs the record labels that hire these rappers and pays them for their "crap"(?)... Jews.
Whoa ho ho and the game is afoot!

You're just impressive some times, I hope you know that. Keep it up, I love it.
Northside Brothers
23-02-2005, 06:04
Actually, Jews are primarily behind the Iraq war and video games about killing Arabs.

And who runs the record labels that hire these rappers and pays them for their "crap"(?)... Jews.



Yeah cause Bush is a Jew. you are a brainwashed fool
Marrakech II
23-02-2005, 06:04
Tell you when I first saw this thread I knew you were going to cause a shit storm! Well congrats!
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:04
I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that you aren't going to support any of that crap up.
Do I really need to get the list again? Are people this naive? It's not like the Jews have been trying to hide these facts.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:05
Yeah cause Bush is a Jew. you are a brainwashed fool
What does Bush have to do with any thing?
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 06:06
What does Bush have to do with any thing?
He went to war with Iraq. You blame that war on the Jews. Bush is not a Jew.
Emperor Salamander VII
23-02-2005, 06:07
Servus, I like how you've biased the poll!
Very nice!
Too bad there's not an option saying "Neither blacks nor whites have any excuse to be racist."

Exactly.

As for these rappers talking of killing "white people", there are probably just as many KKK'ers saying "kill blacks". Can't stop one without stopping the other.

Bottom line is that no racism is acceptable, regardless of the reasoning or justification.

If I were to start a poll, the question I'd ask is "Of those of you who are rabidly paranoid/afraid of minorities, how many of you actually know some personally?"
Xhadam
23-02-2005, 06:07
Yes, please get out the list showing that Jews are the evil overlords who trained the blacks to hate whites and get them killed and that they are behind the wars and created the videogames. :rolleyes:
Northside Brothers
23-02-2005, 06:08
you said the war in iraq is because of the jews. Are you saying that bush had nothing to do with the war? Actually if you want the facts it was the only black man working for Bush that said the war was a bad idea. Then Bushed forced him out.


Bush is not a jew, and he started the war.
Powell is black and was against the war.
Marrakech II
23-02-2005, 06:09
you said the war in iraq is because of the jews. Are you saying that bush had nothing to do with the war? Actually if you want the facts it was the only black man working for Bush that said the war was a bad idea. Then Bushed forced him out.


Bush is not a jew, and he started the war.
Powell is black and was against the war.

Dr Rice is also black and supported the war. So? Your point was?
Bourbonsville
23-02-2005, 06:11
you said the war in iraq is because of the jews. Are you saying that bush had nothing to do with the war? Actually if you want the facts it was the only black man working for Bush that said the war was a bad idea. Then Bushed forced him out.


Bush is not a jew, and he started the war.
Powell is black and was against the war.

I get what you are saying.

People are saying that the war was started because of Jews. Bush had more to do with the war starting than Jews did... therefore, by these people's reasoning, he would be a Jew, which he isn't. However... Colin Powell resigned.
Iron Dirigible
23-02-2005, 06:11
Blacks kill everyone, ever hear of black on black crime?
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:11
you said the war in iraq is because of the jews. Are you saying that bush had nothing to do with the war? Actually if you want the facts it was the only black man working for Bush that said the war was a bad idea. Then Bushed forced him out.


Bush is not a jew, and he started the war.
Powell is black and was against the war.
Naivete is highly annoying.
Yevon Reincarnate
23-02-2005, 06:11
Blacks kill everyone, ever hear of black on black crime?
What an enlightening first post. bravo :rolleyes:
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 06:13
Naivete is highly annoying.
So are unsubstantiated conspiracy theories and religious dogma, but hey you're still talking.
Northside Brothers
23-02-2005, 06:13
My point was that the only person working for bush that was against the war was black, while showing that every war America has been involved in has been started by a rich white man. Thus we should ask Why are rich White Americans so violent against every other person on the planet
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:13
Jewish-controlled media outlets, as of 2000:

Walt Disney Company(including Touchstone/BuenaVista),CEO Michael Eisner, Jew
Walt Disney Picture Company(incl. ABC), Joe Roth, Jew
Miramax Films, Weinstein brothers, both Jews
Time Warner Inc., Gerald Levin, Jew
Viacom Inc.(incl. CBS, MTV), Murray Rothstein(aka Sumner Redstone), Jew
Paramount Pictures, Sherry Lansing, Jewess
News Corporation(incl. Fox), Murdoch, TV & Movie production headed by Peter Chernin, Jew;
Sony Corporation of America,Michael Schulhof, Jew
Sony Pictures ,Alan Levine, Jew
New World Entertainment, owner Ronald Perelman, Chairman Brandon Tartikoff, Jews
DreamWorks SKG, David Geffen, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Steven Spielberg, Jews
MCA/Universal Pictures Edgar Bronfman (president of World Jewish Congress), Jew
Newsweek/ Washington Post Katherine Meyer Graham, Jewess
U.S. News & World Report/ NY Daily News Mortimer Zuckerman, Jew
Random House Publishing Newhouse, Jew
NBC News, Andrew Lack, Jew
Newhouse Media, incl. 26 newspapers, led by Newhouse family Jews
New York Times/ Boston Globe + 32 other newspapers, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., Jew
Wall Street Journal Peter Kann, Jew

The following are just some of their subsidaries:
Time Magazine
MTV
Nickelodeon
Prentice Hall
Simon & Schuster
Warner Books
Little, Brown
Disney Channel
HBO
Showtime
CNN
Fox News
ABC
NBC
CBS
Xhadam
23-02-2005, 06:14
Naivete is highly annoying.
Riiight. Still waiting on that list to show they created the videogames with whites killing arabas, starting the Iraq war, and promoting black hate lyrics.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:14
My point was that the only person working for bush that was against the war was black, while showing that every war America has been involved in has been started by a rich white man. Thus we should ask Why are rich White Americans so violent against every other person on the planet
Bush didn't start the war. He just went along with what was best for his wallet.
Islamigood
23-02-2005, 06:15
O CHILDREN OF MEN!
Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul, to walk with the same feet, eat with the same mouth and dwell in the same land, that from your inmost being, by your deeds and actions, the signs of oneness and the essence of detachment may be made manifest. Such is My counsel to you, O concourse of light! Heed ye this counsel that ye may obtain the fruit of holiness from the tree of wondrous glory

(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)
its to bad the bible did not contain a similar verse we coudl ahve avoided centuries or racism and haullicost.
Bourbonsville
23-02-2005, 06:16
Riiight. Still waiting on that list to show they created the videogames with whites killing arabas, starting the Iraq war, and promoting black hate lyrics.

But... he gave you the list.
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 06:16
Crazy lists
You know media outlets don't fight or start wars with foreign nations, except with Spain but thats different.

You realize that proves nothing. It may raise questions, but its not even evidence let alone proof.
Meat Face
23-02-2005, 06:16
People (black, white, whatever) should be free to sing/say whatever they want. As long as they know that there are repurcussions.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:16
its to bad the bible did not contain a similar verse we coudl ahve avoided centuries or racism and haullicost.
Like the savage Mohammedans! :rolleyes:
Northside Brothers
23-02-2005, 06:19
this is going nowhere. No one is going to change their views. time to give up, and go to bed. Nite all :cool: :cool:
CthulhuFhtagn
23-02-2005, 06:20
He went to war with Iraq. You blame that war on the Jews. Bush is not a Jew.
Logic and TT do not mix. A few months back, when I pointed out that since Romans used crucifixion as their method of execution and the Jews used stoning, he still claimed that the Jews killed Yeshua.
Xhadam
23-02-2005, 06:20
But... he gave you the list.

That was the list? I thought the list was going to show the evil jewish overlords paying black people to make more black people kill white people. I thought it was going to show Jews plootting the Iraq War. I thought it was going to show Jews creating videogames where white people killed arabs. All it had was a list of people running media outlets. Such a let down. :(
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 06:21
Logic and TT do not mix. A few months back, when I pointed out that since Romans used crucifixion as their method of execution and the Jews used stoning, he still claimed that the Jews killed Yeshua.
Hehe yeah. I know, its just funny to see what he is going to say next. He usually doesn't dissapoint.
Bodhis
23-02-2005, 06:27
Awww.... I'm upset you didn't include the lyrics to Sonic Jihad's "What Would You Do?"

http://www.guerrillafunk.com/paris/sonic_jihad/

Feel free to give the song a listen on the offical website or view the lyrics.

Anyhow, I posted this up because I don't take any of this seriously.

What, we actually think all African Americans are out to get us? The big "race war" is coming, huh? They're all members of the Five Percenters? Dang, let me just go out and join my local chapter of a national hate group!

Come on, get real. Do some research and stop involving yourself in the hype. It's not glamorous, it's not cool, and it's not by any means truth.
LannaN
23-02-2005, 06:29
It's not the race, but the people...
Kryozerkia
23-02-2005, 06:32
Racism is racism; black is black, white is white. There are no two ways about it, whether it is a white making the comment or committing the action against the black or vice versa, it is still the same thing, and it is wrong. So, it should be stopped. Black violence against whites should be solved the same way white violence was...
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:32
Hehe yeah. I know, its just funny to see what he is going to say next. He usually doesn't dissapoint.
The Jews did kill Christ but that is not what is being discussed here.
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 06:33
The Jews did kill Christ but that is not what is being discussed here.
See why I love this guy!
Yevon Reincarnate
23-02-2005, 06:35
See why I love this guy!
lol
Peopleandstuff
23-02-2005, 06:35
This is just side stepping the point, I think the salient question here really is why are calls to violence, expressions of hate, and insults so much funnier when they rhyme? And also what kind of word is rhyme anyway, it never looks right when written (or typed)...what gives? :confused:
CthulhuFhtagn
23-02-2005, 06:38
The Jews did kill Christ but that is not what is being discussed here.
The EAC killed Yeshua. Not the Jews. They killed YHWH. With giant robots.
Peopleandstuff
23-02-2005, 06:45
The Jews did kill Christ but that is not what is being discussed here.
"The Lord giveth and he taketh away"
'The Jews' giveth and they taketh away

Does this mean that 'The Jews' are God?

'Who'd 'a thought, eh?
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:45
This is just side stepping the point, I think the salient question here really is why are calls to violence, expressions of hate, and insults so much funnier when they rhyme? And also what kind of word is rhyme anyway, it never looks right when written (or typed)...what gives? :confused:
Of course you would find it funny as violence against Whites continues every day!
Armed Bookworms
23-02-2005, 06:48
If you want to get technical about it, blacks are most violent against themselves. Specifically inner city blacks. Rural and suburban blacks don't have any violence stats any different than whites.
Peopleandstuff
23-02-2005, 06:49
Of course you would find it funny as violence against Whites continues every day!
You're not making sense... that I find something funny doesnt follow from violence against white people, (I presume this is what you mean by 'white'), increasing every day...
Akkid
23-02-2005, 06:52
i'm half white and half iranian, and i have quite a few views on this matter.

1st) anything servus dei says is 100% shit sculpture. anybody bother to ask for his sources, double check his 'research'?

2nd) I beleive in equality in racism. as racism will never truly be eliminated from the world unless/untill all races are fully integrated, the only way to really balance out the racism equation is to act as others do. if you're white, call your white friends 'cracker.' make anti-white jokes and mock other whites for their racial inferiority. if you're middle eastern, call your homies 'camel jockey' or 'rag head' or 'sand monkey.' when everyone treats themselves equally, only then will they treat others the same way.

this is why walking through crowded halls singing Mystikal's 'Shake Ya Ass' with 'cracka' inserted everywhere he says 'nigga' is a very fulfilling experience.
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 06:53
Of course you would find it funny as violence against Whites continues every day!
Just a point of reference, I find it funny.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 06:55
i'm half white and half iranian, and i have quite a few views on this matter.

1st) anything servus dei says is 100% shit sculpture. anybody bother to ask for his sources, double check his 'research'?

2nd) I beleive in equality in racism. as racism will never truly be eliminated from the world unless/untill all races are fully integrated, the only way to really balance out the racism equation is to act as others do. if you're white, call your white friends 'cracker.' make anti-white jokes and mock other whites for their racial inferiority. if you're middle eastern, call your homies 'camel jockey' or 'rag head' or 'sand monkey.' when everyone treats themselves equally, only then will they treat others the same way.

this is why walking through crowded halls singing Mystikal's 'Shake Ya Ass' with 'cracka' inserted everywhere he says 'nigga' is a very fulfilling experience.

The Aryan has spoken! :rolleyes:
Akkid
23-02-2005, 06:59
The Aryan has spoken! :rolleyes:

i have no idea what the hell you're implying.
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 07:00
The Aryan has spoken! :rolleyes:
Its spelled Iranian
:rolleyes: Duh.......
CthulhuFhtagn
23-02-2005, 07:01
i have no idea what the hell you're implying.
He is implying that he has seriously overdosed on PCP.
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:02
Its spelled Iranian
:rolleyes: Duh.......

uh iranians are the original Aryans. i don't know how you could possibly not know what an aryan is, but if it you want a jump start into that i'd do some google research on hitler's ideal race.
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:02
He is implying that he has seriously overdosed on PCP.

that would explain a lot.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 07:03
uh iranians are the original Aryans. i don't know how you could possibly not know what an aryan is, but if it you want a jump start into that i'd do some google research on hitler's ideal race.

original crackas
"Cracka" is reserved for Whites.
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 07:03
uh iranians are the original Aryans. i don't know how you could possibly not know what an aryan is, but if it you want a jump start into that i'd do some google research on hitler's ideal race.

original crackas
I'm just kidding, jeez lighten up
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 07:03
"Cracka" is reserved for Whites.
Saltines too.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:04
It's funny. I have never owned a slave. I have never discriminated against a black person. Yet, I still have plenty of them acting like I have. I get called whitey, white boy, cracker, fishbelly, all sorts of things.

That is freedom of expression.

What would happen if I said move ******?
It would be a "hate crime" or some crap.

However, move whitey or move cracker is fine.

Or even, move blackey... that would be horrible.

Don;t forget move boy.
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:04
"Cracka" is reserved for Whites.

i said i'm half white, dumbass. by my logic, i.e. the right one compared to anything you say, that gives me the right to say whatever the hell i want about middle easterners, whites, muslims and christians.

so stfu, honky ass ghost
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 07:05
i said i'm half white, dumbass. by my logic, i.e. the right one compared to anything you say, that gives me the right to say whatever the hell i want about middle easterners, whites, muslims and christians.

so stfu, honky ass ghost
Must be a half-Jew.
Hammolopolis
23-02-2005, 07:07
Must be a half-Jew.
Ohh snap!

:confused:
I don't get it......
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:10
Exactly.

As for these rappers talking of killing "white people", there are probably just as many KKK'ers saying "kill blacks". Can't stop one without stopping the other.

Bottom line is that no racism is acceptable, regardless of the reasoning or justification.

If I were to start a poll, the question I'd ask is "Of those of you who are rabidly paranoid/afraid of minorities, how many of you actually know some personally?"


At least the KKK isn't public. If two black men can call each other niggers, why can't i join in whithout my life being in jeopardy? Yet they can call me a cracker and get away with it. I'm not racist. I see things the way they are, not my own little misguided utopia. I see more racist black people in the US than racist white people.
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:13
At least the KKK isn't public. If two black men can call each other niggers, why can't i join in whithout my life being in jeopardy? Yet they can call me a cracker and get away with it. I'm not racist. I see things the way they are, not my own little misguided utopia. I see more racist black people in the US than racist white people.

because no one ever called you a cracker when they were beating you, systematically depriving you of food, and forcing you to work in their fields from dawn to dusk for your entire life with no hope in sight.

when white christians are the victims of a mass genocide or slavery movement, get back to me.
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:14
Must be a half-Jew.

once again, i have no idea what you're tring to say.
Preebles
23-02-2005, 07:14
This is not looking for flaming or such, but I simply desire a response from an negro and/ or a liberal apologist as to how these sorts of "rap lyrics" are justified without being rebuked as "hate."

And you're not looking for a flaming? :rolleyes: I'd hate to see what you say when you are.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 07:14
because no one ever called you a cracker when they were beating you, systematically depriving you of food, and forcing you to work in their fields from dawn to dusk for your entire life with no hope in sight.

when white christians are the victims of a mass genocide or slavery movement, get back to me.
More Brown intelligence shining through... :rolleyes:

Actually White Christians have been involved in numerous such incidents as you describe.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 07:15
And you're not looking for a flaming? :rolleyes: I'd hate to see what you say when you are.
Are these statements by negroes hate or not?
Yiddnland
23-02-2005, 07:18
Jewish-controlled media outlets, as of 2000:

Walt Disney Company(including Touchstone/BuenaVista),CEO Michael Eisner, Jew
Walt Disney Picture Company(incl. ABC), Joe Roth, Jew
Miramax Films, Weinstein brothers, both Jews
Time Warner Inc., Gerald Levin, Jew
Viacom Inc.(incl. CBS, MTV), Murray Rothstein(aka Sumner Redstone), Jew
Paramount Pictures, Sherry Lansing, Jewess
News Corporation(incl. Fox), Murdoch, TV & Movie production headed by Peter Chernin, Jew;
Sony Corporation of America,Michael Schulhof, Jew
Sony Pictures ,Alan Levine, Jew
New World Entertainment, owner Ronald Perelman, Chairman Brandon Tartikoff, Jews
DreamWorks SKG, David Geffen, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Steven Spielberg, Jews
MCA/Universal Pictures Edgar Bronfman (president of World Jewish Congress), Jew
Newsweek/ Washington Post Katherine Meyer Graham, Jewess
U.S. News & World Report/ NY Daily News Mortimer Zuckerman, Jew
Random House Publishing Newhouse, Jew
NBC News, Andrew Lack, Jew
Newhouse Media, incl. 26 newspapers, led by Newhouse family Jews
New York Times/ Boston Globe + 32 other newspapers, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., Jew
Wall Street Journal Peter Kann, Jew

The following are just some of their subsidaries:
Time Magazine
MTV
Nickelodeon
Prentice Hall
Simon & Schuster
Warner Books
Little, Brown
Disney Channel
HBO
Showtime
CNN
Fox News
ABC
NBC
CBS


Not all CEO's or directors are owners, you biased piece of shit. And if jews are on top positions even if not owners, it's because they have the skill.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:22
its to bad the bible did not contain a similar verse we coudl ahve avoided centuries or racism and haullicost.


I could name a few

When an alien [foreigner] lives with you in your land, do not ill-treat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.'

'There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus'

There are more i would post, but not without the scripture reference. and it is 1230 am here
Preebles
23-02-2005, 07:22
Are these statements by negroes hate or not?
SO? Way to make generalisations about an entire race based on a handful of comments.

And please, by using the term 'negroes' you make yourself look like an ignorant jackass.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 07:23
SO? Way to make generalisations about an entire race based on a handful of comments.

And please, by using the term 'negroes' you make yourself look like an ignorant jackass.
Are you going to answer or not? How are these negroes' words not hate?
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:23
More Brown intelligence shining through... :rolleyes:

Actually White Christians have been involved in numerous such incidents as you describe.

name some.

any.

one.

and don't start spewing any white supremacist crap about the holocaust being a lie and how it was actually white caucasian males who were killed. please. i know its tricky, what with being fucking crazy and all, but do try your hardest to actually use facts.
Xhadam
23-02-2005, 07:24
Yes, please get out the list showing that Jews are the evil overlords who trained the blacks to hate whites and get them killed and that they are behind the wars and created the videogames. :rolleyes:

Still waiting.
Preebles
23-02-2005, 07:27
Are you going to answer or not? How are these negroes' words not hate?

I thought that was implied. :rolleyes:
Yes, they are hateful words. But as I said before, it's pretty bloody stupid to characterise an entire race because of a handful of comments.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:31
because no one ever called you a cracker when they were beating you, systematically depriving you of food, and forcing you to work in their fields from dawn to dusk for your entire life with no hope in sight.

when white christians are the victims of a mass genocide or slavery movement, get back to me.


I will never buy that past abuse sham. No black person alive can remember slavery. Honestly. No black person currently alive in america was a slave. There is no link between past events and genetics unless mutation is involved. I'm sure one of my ancestors was a serf, but i don;t lash out against rich people.

Why aren't Native americans lashing out. They were slaves longer than blacks. And they were victims of mass genocide, and the main population has been moved onto reservations. I don't see any racism against whites. Do you? Have you? Why aren't all britons commiting violent acts against catholics. They Holy Roman Empire tried to eradicate the Britons. They saw them as sub human, but that would never hold up in a court case. Can you see the headline.

Englishman kills pope in rage due to traumas sustained to his people 1600 years ago.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:33
Actually, Jews are primarily behind the Iraq war and video games about killing Arabs.

And who runs the record labels that hire these rappers and pays them for their "crap"(?)... Jews.

I just burned the shred of respect i had left for you in the 7th flame of my menorah.
Servus Dei
23-02-2005, 07:35
I just burned the shred of respect i had left for you in the 7th flame of my menorah.
You are a Jew? Don't worry about serfdom then; you were the usurer funding those "rich people."
Pure Perfection
23-02-2005, 07:36
Another point is that American Society tells African Americans that the only way for them to do anything in life is to be in sports or music. We basically tell blacks that if they are not good in these areas they should give up hope on having a happy life. Just look at american TV. Show me one black character in American media that is presented in a positive manner and i'll show you ten that are sterotyped in a negative way.

Because either way something is going to be wrong, Bill Cosby is viewed as an Uncle Tom for trying to add positive outlooks, and if you say their gangsters they get offended then too. Don't get me wrong, theirs bad in every race.

Also, it astounds me how people gripe about hate with blacks, middle easterns and such, but I see anti-American comments somewhere in nearly every thread.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:37
You are a Jew? Don't worry about serfdom then; you were the usurer funding those "rich people."

No, i was using a menorah as a literary device. playing on your extreme hatred for jews.
UpwardThrust
23-02-2005, 07:38
Why Is DF Such a Troll On This Forum?
Sad thing is I think he really believes this tripe
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:38
I will never buy that past abuse sham. No black person alive can remember slavery. Honestly. No black person currently alive in america was a slave. There is no link between past events and genetics unless mutation is involved. I'm sure one of my ancestors was a serf, but i don;t lash out against rich people.

Why aren't Native americans lashing out. They were slaves longer than blacks. And they were victims of mass genocide, and the main population has been moved onto reservations. I don't see any racism against whites. Do you? Have you? Why aren't all britons commiting violent acts against catholics. They Holy Roman Empire tried to eradicate the Britons. They saw them as sub human, but that would never hold up in a court case. Can you see the headline.

Englishman kills pope in rage due to traumas sustained to his people 1600 years ago.

-ever heard of sudan? slavery permeates that section of africa, and the rich, powerful, caucasian-led countries of the world do nothing to stop it.

-the majority of blacks in america earn far, far less than the majority of whites. hence its not a matter of the past, but rather a matter of simple socioeconomics. yes, its a generalization, but i'm not defending it, im' just pointing out the reasoning of a racist. when you go to the ghetto, the majority of people you see are black. when you go to the suburbs, the majority of the people you see are white. resentment is easy in such conditions.

-native americans aren't doing shit cause they dead.

whitey :sniper:
UpwardThrust
23-02-2005, 07:40
You are a Jew? Don't worry about serfdom then; you were the usurer funding those "rich people."
your just mad cause Jew's Pwnes j00
Pure Perfection
23-02-2005, 07:41
-ever heard of sudan? slavery permeates that section of africa, and the rich, powerful, caucasian-led countries of the world do nothing to stop it.

-the majority of blacks in america earn far, far less than the majority of whites. hence its not a matter of the past, but rather a matter of simple socioeconomics. yes, its a generalization, but i'm not defending it, im' just pointing out the reasoning of a racist. when you go to the ghetto, the majority of people you see are black. when you go to the suburbs, the majority of the people you see are white. resentment is easy in such conditions.

-native americans aren't doing shit cause they dead.

whitey :sniper:

Unless your a troll, you don't help erasing sterotypes.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:43
-ever heard of sudan? slavery permeates that section of africa, and the rich, powerful, caucasian-led countries of the world do nothing to stop it.

-the majority of blacks in america earn far, far less than the majority of whites. hence its not a matter of the past, but rather a matter of simple socioeconomics. yes, its a generalization, but i'm not defending it, im' just pointing out the reasoning of a racist. when you go to the ghetto, the majority of people you see are black. when you go to the suburbs, the majority of the people you see are white. resentment is easy in such conditions.

-native americans aren't doing shit cause they dead.

whitey :sniper:

-where the hell do you live. I live in a wealthy section of louisisana, and i feel like a freakin oreo.

-bull.....there are plenty, but why don;t they get it easy. why aren't they getting any reperation money? Why aren't they getting into University of Michigan Law School with subpar grades. Why aren;t they screaming descrimination everytime someone looks at them crosseyed. (sry, it's been a bad day and i needed to fly off the handle, of course not all blacks are like that, my best friend of 15 years is black, but as a race, they are like this.)
Vozamarak Navi
23-02-2005, 07:43
The statistics speak for themselves...

According to FBI Crime Reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.


i'm sure money plays into it somewhere. for example, how many successful white ceo's are there and how many black one's are there? white neighborhoods are typically more wealthy than black neighborhoods. that in mind, not only is it likely that richer people are less likely to commit violent crimes, but they are also probably less likely to get arrested and convicted when they commit these crimes.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:44
I have this same discussion with my best friend ( a black man) and he holds the view that there should be no reperation money, that everyone wshould be treated equally, with no preferential treatment of any kind. and he is being called an uncle tom.
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:45
Unless your a troll, you don't help erasing sterotypes.

that specific post wasn't intended to erase stereotypes, but rather be a counterpoint/s to what i was replying to.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:46
that specific post wasn't intended to erase stereotypes, but rather be a counterpoint/s to what i was replying to.

The US wants to do something in Sudan, but then everyone whould scream how evil we are, so we won;t bother.
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:48
-where the hell do you live. I live in a wealthy section of louisisana, and i feel like a freakin oreo.

-bull.....there are plenty, but why don;t they get it easy. why aren't they getting any reperation money? Why aren't they getting into University of Michigan Law School with subpar grades. Why aren;t they screaming descrimination everytime someone looks at them crosseyed. (sry, it's been a bad day and i needed to fly off the handle, of course not all blacks are like that, my best friend of 15 years is black, but as a race, they are like this.)

i don't know wtf is going on in your neighborhood, but thats definitely an isolated example. i life in the north east, i used to live in california, i've spent months in new york, i've travelled all the way accross the united states by car, and i've never seen a prosperous neighborhood that is primarily black.

the indians do get affirmitive action, if you bothered to research this shit.

still not mentioning my sudan point...
Pure Perfection
23-02-2005, 07:48
I really don't have a big problem with the blacks, there aren't many where I live, and the last time I lived near a big population was in Kansas City MO, and even then it wasn't that bad for me. Where I currently live, its more of a hispanic epidemic. In reality the whites are the minority where I live. Don't get me wrong, I have many Mexican friends *as thats the majority where I live*, and I get along fine with them, but it irrates me when I can be called Honkey, cracker, whitey and just have to deal with it without retaliation.
Peopleandstuff
23-02-2005, 07:49
At least the KKK isn't public. If two black men can call each other niggers, why can't i join in whithout my life being in jeopardy? Yet they can call me a cracker and get away with it. I'm not racist. I see things the way they are, not my own little misguided utopia. I see more racist black people in the US than racist white people.
Perhaps you lack the necessary rhyming skills?
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:49
The US wants to do something in Sudan, but then everyone whould scream how evil we are, so we won;t bother.

thats the most retarded statement 've ever read in my life.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:51
i don't know wtf is going on in your neighborhood, but thats definitely an isolated example. i life in the north east, i used to live in california, i've spent months in new york, i've travelled all the way accross the united states by car, and i've never seen a prosperous neighborhood that is primarily black.

the indians do get affirmitive action, if you bothered to research this shit.

still not mentioning my sudan point...


then it is those sections of america that need to get a grip. The so called red slave states seem to have better outlooks for blacks. interesting. i thought conservatives were racist.

1/4 native american bitz.

see above.
Stercustaurus
23-02-2005, 07:52
Take a lesson from Avanue Q: "Everyone's a little bit racist."

Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

Kate Monster:
Sure!

Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

Kate Monster:
Uh huh.

Princeton:
Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.

Kate Monster:
Right.

Princeton:
You're both Monsters.

Kate Monster:
Yeah.

Princeton:
Are you two related?

Kate Monster:
What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!

Princeton:
Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!

Kate Monster:
Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you?
Huh, huh, huh?

Princeton:
No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.

Kate Monster:
I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the
sensitive subject of race.

Princeton:
Well, look who's talking!

Kate Monster:
What do you mean?

Princeton:
What about that special Monster School you told me about?

Kate Monster:
What about it?

Princeton:
Could someone like me go there?

Kate Monster:
No, we don't want people like you-

Princeton:
You see?!
You're a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
I guess we're both a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...

Princeton:
But I guess it's true.

Kate Monster:
Between me and you,
I think

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Princeton:
Now not big judgments, like who to hire
or who to buy a newspaper from -

Kate Monster:
No!

Princeton:
No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!

Kate Monster:
Right!

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!

Princeton:
All right, stop me if you've heard this one.

Kate Monster:
Okay!

Princeton:
There's a plan going down and there's only
one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...

Kate Monster:
And a black guy!

Gary Coleman:
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?

Kate Monster:
Uh...

Gary Coleman:
You were telling a black joke!

Princeton:
Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.

Gary Coleman:
I don't.

Princeton:
Well, of course you don't - you're black!
But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?

Gary Coleman:
Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!

Princeton:
Now, don't you think that's a little racist?

Gary Coleman:
Well, damn, I guess you're right.

Kate Monster:
You're a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
We're all a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
I think that I would
Have to agree with you.

Princeton/Kate Monster:
We're glad you do.

Gary Coleman:
It's sad but true!
Everyone's a little bit racist -

All right!

Kate Monster:
All right!

Princeton:
All right!

Gary Coleman:
All right!
Bigotry has never been
Exclusively white

All:
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
Even though we all know
That it's wrong,
Maybe it would help us
Get along.

Princeton:
Oh, Christ do I feel good.

Gary Coleman:
Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

Princeton:
Who?

Gary Coleman:
Jesus Christ.

Kate Monster:
But, Gary, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, Jesus was black.

Kate Monster:
No, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-

Princeton:
Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!

Brian:
Hey guys, what are you laughing about?

Gary Coleman:
Racism!

Brian:
Cool.

Christmas Eve:
BRIAN! Come back here!
You take out lecycuraburs!

Princeton:
What's that mean?

Brian:
Um, recyclables.
Hey, don't laugh at her!
How many languages do you speak?

Kate Monster:
Oh, come off it, Brian!
Everyone's a little bit racist.

Brian:
I'm not!

Princeton:
Oh no?

Brian:
Nope!
How many Oriental wives
Have you got?

Christmas Eve:
What? Brian!

Princeton:
Brian, buddy, where you been?
The term is Asian-American!

Christmas Eve:
I know you are no
Intending to be
But calling me Oriental -
Offensive to me!

Brian:
I'm sorry, honey, I love you.

Christmas Eve:
And I love you.

Brian:
But you're racist, too.

Christmas Eve:
Yes, I know.
The Jews have all
The money
And the whites have all
The power.
And I'm always in taxi-cab
With driver who no shower!

Princeton:
Me too!

Kate Monster:
Me too!

Gary Coleman:
I can't even get a taxi!

All:
Everyone's a little bit racist
It's true.
But everyone is just about
As racist as you!
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
And everyone stopped being
So PC
Maybe we could live in -
Harmony!

Christmas Eve:
Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist!
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 07:52
thats the most retarded statement 've ever read in my life.

how so, it is true. if the us wass to go in and do something, we would be once again vilified, becasue the UN refuses to do anything about it. and without the UN's approval, you just can;t do that you see. :rolleyes:
Akkid
23-02-2005, 07:55
then it is those sections of america that need to get a grip. The so called red slave states seem to have better outlooks for blacks. interesting. i thought conservatives were racist.

1/4 native american bitz.

see above.

i said ISOLATED EXAMPLE because it is one. one god damned unique neighborhood in the country doesn't mean that every other place in the usa is the same. also, every city in america has ghettos, most often inhabited primarily by minorities. better outlook for blacks? what the fuck? seriously, look up some statistics online. check your state's website or something.

i have no idea what the hell 1/4 bitz. means.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Akkid
23-02-2005, 08:00
how so, it is true. if the us wass to go in and do something, we would be once again vilified, becasue the UN refuses to do anything about it. and without the UN's approval, you just can;t do that you see. :rolleyes:

we wouldn't be vilified because theres actually a massive human rights problem there, and that would be the reason for going in. the majority of the world wants that problem ended. also, we wouldn't be claiming any crap like WMD, so there wouldn't be any lies to try and throw at people trying to convince them of this mission's urgency.

if you're thinking of iraq, we're only vilified for that because we went gung ho into the middle east without any good reason, refused to listen to the U.N or the rest of the civilized world, ourselves vilified countries like france and germany, and tried to convince people that we only went in there to bring democracy in the first place.

anyway, we should do what is right without regard for international viewpoints, even if (as is completely improbable) things were to work out as you claim. (and no, iraq wasn't us doing right without regard for international viewpoints. puhleaze.)
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 08:01
i said ISOLATED EXAMPLE because it is one. one god damned unique neighborhood in the country doesn't mean that every other place in the usa is the same. also, every city in america has ghettos, most often inhabited primarily by minorities. better outlook for blacks? what the fuck? seriously, look up some statistics online. check your state's website or something.

i have no idea what the hell 1/4 bitz. means.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:


most of the rich neighborhoods in the entire parish at least have a good mix of black and white. my neighborhood ther eis more black however.

[i am]1/4 native american....bitch [you] -> simple enough

why are you banging your head, tryiing to get those voices out?
UpwardThrust
23-02-2005, 08:01
i said ISOLATED EXAMPLE because it is one. one god damned unique neighborhood in the country doesn't mean that every other place in the usa is the same. also, every city in america has ghettos, most often inhabited primarily by minorities. better outlook for blacks? what the fuck? seriously, look up some statistics online. check your state's website or something.

i have no idea what the hell 1/4 bitz. means.

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
I wouldn’t say every … but I live in Minnesota … we tend to not have ghetto’s up here (there are a few trailer parks but in general tends to be white trash lol) but in Minnesota they don’t rize to any sort of level (at least mid to north … Minneapolis St. Paul is a bit different)
But yeah haven’t you heard all generalizations are false :p
Pure Perfection
23-02-2005, 08:01
[QUOTE=Stercustaurus]Take a lesson from Avanue Q: "Everyone's a little bit racist."

Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

Kate Monster:
Sure!

Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

Kate Monster:
Uh huh.

Princeton:
Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.

-to much to quote completly- :eek:

That reminded me of an old 50's educational video, only modernised so not to be racist :rolleyes:

Funny though.
THE LOST PLANET
23-02-2005, 08:02
Why Are Blacks So Violent Against White Devils?


Mmm, Dunno......


but I guess it might have something to do with the fact it's harder to lynch someone when they're poppin' caps at you.....
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 08:06
we wouldn't be vilified because theres actually a massive human rights problem there, and that would be the reason for going in. the majority of the world wants that problem ended. also, we wouldn't be claiming any crap like WMD, so there wouldn't be any lies to try and throw at people trying to convince them of this mission's urgency.

if you're thinking of iraq, we're only vilified for that because we went gung ho into the middle east without any good reason, refused to listen to the U.N or the rest of the civilized world, ourselves vilified countries like france and germany, and tried to convince people that we only went in there to bring democracy in the first place.

anyway, we should do what is right without regard for international viewpoints, even if (as is completely improbable) things were to work out as you claim. (and no, iraq wasn't us doing right without regard for international viewpoints. puhleaze.)


in response to the right thing in iraq...

":Along with other human rights organizations, The Documental Centre for Human Rights in Iraq has compiled documentation on over 600,000 civilian executions in Iraq. Human Rights Watch reports that in one operation alone, the Anfal, Saddam killed 100,000 Kurdish Iraqis. Another 500,000 are estimated to have died in Saddam's needless war with Iran. Coldly taken as a daily average for the 24 years of Saddam's reign, these numbers give us a horrifying picture of between 70 and 125 civilian deaths per day for every one of Saddam's 8,000-odd days in power"

we won't invade anyone else in a long time. The UN does not condone us going in, therefor, i doubt we will defy the Un again and risk an attack by the public opinion of the wrorld. bush is trying to mend eurpean relations now, not trying to make them worse.
Autocraticama
23-02-2005, 08:08
Why Are Blacks So Violent Against White Devils?


Mmm, Dunno......


but I guess it might have something to do with the fact it's harder to lynch someone when they're poppin' caps at you.....

and how many years has their been since a lynching based on racism?
Nurcia
23-02-2005, 08:14
We won't invade anyone else in a long time. The UN does not condone us going in, therefor, i doubt we will defy the Un again and risk an attack by the public opinion of the wrorld. bush is trying to mend eurpean relations now, not trying to make them worse.

I have to say I agree that if the US did go into Sudan before long the US would be accused of being insane crusaders out to kill all the innocent dictators and genocidal maniacs in Sudan, while stealing their natural resources. I often find that discussions on the Iraq war came out something like this...

Me: "Saddam kills lots of people, he is not exactly a nice person and it is a good thing he is out of power"

Other Person: "OIL!"

Me: "Plus he has invaded most his neighbors..."

Other Person: "OIL!"

Me: "And then there's the fact that..."

Other Person: "OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL!" *Begins throwing a temper tantrum much like a four year old.*

Me: "Um ... right. Never mind then"
Jo-pol
23-02-2005, 08:15
You call black people violent, Yet don't call white people violent. White people drown there kids in the bath room, drown there kids in the river and blame in black people. White people tourtue there own kids. White people kill there wife or husbands becuase they want the insurance money. I can list many crimes that white people do. You should look at the white people as violent people too. becuase white people are not angels. In fact I feel that the majority of worlds problems can be blame on white people and there policy they see fit to impose on every one else.
THE LOST PLANET
23-02-2005, 08:15
and how many years has their been since a lynching based on racism?See how well it works...
Jo-pol
23-02-2005, 08:18
Those of you who voted for opition four. Seems to me you are afraid becuase you know the blacks are mad at the whites for all the years of crap the blacks had to endure because of the white mans polices as we the white man are supreme. Well looks like seems to all the sins of the past commited by the white man on the black shall come back to haunt them.
Peopleandstuff
23-02-2005, 08:21
I have to say I agree that if the US did go into Sudan before long the US would be accused of being insane crusaders out to kill all the innocent dictators and genocidal maniacs in Sudan, while stealing their natural resources. I often find that discussions on the Iraq war came out something like this...

Me: "Saddam kills lots of people, he is not exactly a nice person and it is a good thing he is out of power"

Other Person: "OIL!"

Me: "Plus he has invaded most his neighbors..."

Other Person: "OIL!"

Me: "And then there's the fact that..."

Other Person: "OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL! OIL!" *Begins throwing a temper tantrum much like a four year old.*

Me: "Um ... right. Never mind then"
I can only suggest you employ more discretion when you choose who to engage in conversation....

Frankly I've never heard or read such a conversation prior to your own representation of it, despite participating in many conversations about the manner in which Iraq was invaded...I suggest the problem therefore is probably somehow connected to you and who choose to pay attention to/converse with. The good news is since the problem is related to your own choosing, so to is the solution. Try discussing things with rational folk, there's plenty out there if you know what to look for....
GlXilicon
23-02-2005, 08:22
'The negro should not be allowed to continue on this path of hate and blame toward whites.'

Servus Dei, that's already happening. People are paying less and less attention to blacks, and others, that make unreasonable demands and outrageous claims against whites. It became so common place for awhile that lots of people saw how absurd it had become and they are starting to disbelieve it and even be offended by it. Blacks are losing that ability to use 'racism' as a currency and a weapon. The stuff they used for so long, even after they had many of their problems and real grievances recognized, is becoming a thing of the past. Lots of them are doing pretty well and fewer people see the reason for them to bitch anymore...Unless they just want special privileges for ancient wrongs.

Another reason is because other races are replacing them as influential minorities who alot of times don't have the same grudges, or even as many differences, with whites. Those minorities aren't really going to care about blacks problems when they have sometimes have worse ones of their own. This kind of thing usually sorts itself out in the U.S. until it reaches a middle ground again.
Dauphina
23-02-2005, 08:34
servus dei..you poor stupid bitch. please refrain from your stupid racist shit or i will get violent (by the way, i'm not black).
Nurcia
23-02-2005, 08:46
I can only suggest you employ more discretion when you choose who to engage in conversation....

Frankly I've never heard or read such a conversation prior to your own representation of it, despite participating in many conversations about the manner in which Iraq was invaded...I suggest the problem therefore is probably somehow connected to you and who choose to pay attention to/converse with. The good news is since the problem is related to your own choosing, so to is the solution. Try discussing things with rational folk, there's plenty out there if you know what to look for....

Granted, since it was a conversation with a crazy college student type I suppose I should not have expected any better. I know there are plenty of sensible rational people out there who can disagree on the war, but for some reason it's the onew who throw temper tantrums like little children who stick in your mind.
Swimmingpool
23-02-2005, 09:16
I voted "The negro should not be allowed to continue on this path of hate and blame toward Whites," but I really would not say it like that. No one has any special rights over anyone else due to race.

Servus, violent lyrics are not the same as violent acts. The former should not be banned, the latter is and should remain illegal. And only a minority of black people, or people in general, are violent and racist.
Kellarly
23-02-2005, 10:03
hmmmmmm Sly and the Family Stone song comes to mind

"Don't call me whitey, ******,
don't call ******, whitey"

A song both drippin with irony and seriousness...

Servus, violent lyrics are not the same as violent acts. The former should not be banned, the latter is and should remain illegal. And only a minority of black people, or people in general, are violent and racist.

So so true...like servus for example...
Occidio Multus
23-02-2005, 10:20
i think this thread is pretty funny. ever listen to any oi lyrics, servus? ever listen to war metal? this warrants ten pages of arguing? you all know better....
Bitchkitten
23-02-2005, 10:22
SD needs to be bitchslapped. How's that for a violent white person?
Occidio Multus
23-02-2005, 10:26
SD needs to be bitchslapped. How's that for a violent white person?
not slapped. i say me and and my mixed race, mulatto self FUCK him to death. then he wouldnt know whether to enjoy himself or be disgusted. and those nazis..they hate the big decisions , you know.
Cromotar
23-02-2005, 10:26
The statistics speak for themselves...

According to FBI Crime Reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.

These statistics are heavily influenced by certain factors. This especially:

Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

One should note that, if this statistic is even accurate, it means that blacks are convicted of murdering whites more often. The truth is that if a black murders a white, there's a much larger chance of him being convicted of murder than if a white murders a black. This fact influences most of the other statistics as well.
Kellarly
23-02-2005, 10:28
not slapped. i say me and and my mixed race, mulatto self FUCK him to death. then he wouldnt know whether to enjoy himself or be disgusted. and those nazis..they hate the big decisions , you know.

:eek:

well thats one way to do it i suppose... ;)
The Imperial Navy
23-02-2005, 10:29
The reason? You blind fools. The media choose to focus on black crime more, in an attempt to Demonise them...

It's effectively racism by the back door.
Occidio Multus
23-02-2005, 10:32
:eek:

well thats one way to do it i suppose... ;)
i could think of more. maybe i should send him naked photos of myself, to jumpstart his demise.
Windly Queef
23-02-2005, 10:34
Wow...this poll sucks.

It's not even debateable. You don't settle things by beating on people because of their race...period. If you think so, stay away from me.
Kellarly
23-02-2005, 10:34
i could think of more. maybe i should send him naked photos of myself, to jumpstart his demise.

Not unless you want em posted on here i think...oh wait what am i saying...yeah great idea! ;) :p
Sdaeriji
23-02-2005, 10:35
i could think of more. maybe i should send him naked photos of myself, to jumpstart his demise.

Maybe you should jumpstart my demise. ;)
Occidio Multus
23-02-2005, 10:37
Maybe you should jumpstart my demise. ;)
triple A to the rescue.













no wait. they are a little bigger than that.
GoalVa
23-02-2005, 10:39
So would it be fair to say, that although black (sorry, not meant as an offensive term) people are not inherently racist, that black youth culture not only encourages but rewards violence and criminal activity?

I would not be so forward as to presume all black people are violent, racist murderers, but there are plenty of kids, of all races who listen to this hateful BS spouted by Rappers, and actually pay attention to it.

You cannot say that poverty is a reason for gang warfare, or to kill someone, or to mug a kid. Situations don't usually make people violent criminals, if the people in the ghettos and poorer areas really didn't like it, then they should try there bloody hardest to do something about it, instead of buying a gun.


Also, in reply to the Slavery argument being thrown about the place:

I very doubt anyone contributing in this discussion has ever been subject to slavery, and there are probably only a few whose immediate family have. Therefore, all discussions about slavery are now moot, there is no more slavery (in the western world) and most people have spent the last god knows how long saying sorry for it. You cannot justify a racist remark, or a violent action based on something that happened before your lifetime which did not effect any of you immediate family. Sure you great-great grandfather worked the cotton fields, but that would be like me hating the English, as my family orginates from Wales (well not quite, but you get my point).
Kellarly
23-02-2005, 10:39
triple A to the rescue.



no wait. they are a little bigger than that.

Hence why he wants his demise to begin...
Sdaeriji
23-02-2005, 10:40
Hence why he wants his demise to begin...

I can certainly think of worse ways to go.
Kellarly
23-02-2005, 10:42
I can certainly think of worse ways to go.

Exaclty...getting crushed by a huge Lego Star Destroyer might be one ;)
THE LOST PLANET
23-02-2005, 10:42
The statistics speak for themselves...

According to FBI Crime Reports:

>snip<Nice cut-n-paste, I've seen that list before.

Only never on an official site or with sources to back it. Care to provide a source?
Occidio Multus
23-02-2005, 10:45
Nice cut-n-paste, I've seen that list before.

Only never on an official site or with sources to back it. Care to provide a source?
www. whiteguysrus . com
www. the n word kidsbeatme upandnowiampissed.com
www. bighaters/tinydicks. com
Naturality
23-02-2005, 10:49
Take a lesson from Avanue Q: "Everyone's a little bit racist."

Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?...



Lol that was great.
Theologian Theory
23-02-2005, 10:49
That's not really an excuse now is it?

"These people have treated me bad! And that's bad! So to show it'd bad, I'm going to treat them the same way, which... is... bad too? Er..."

ever been enslaved? go drown yourself.
THE LOST PLANET
23-02-2005, 10:52
www. whiteguysrus . com
www. the n word kidsbeatme upandnowiampissed.com
www. bighaters/tinydicks. com :p

I suppose those are probably as good as any he'd come up with.


At least it's a change from the usual stormfront or amren sources.
Rogue Angelica
23-02-2005, 11:02
I think people need to grasp the fact that people are induviduals, and just because some blacks make mistakes, it doesn't compel the entire race to go out and kill white people.

I'm just wondering how long it will take for people to finally abandon discrimination.
Larovia
23-02-2005, 11:09
Servus Dei, I've decided that as a white, christian male, I get to hate you more than everyone else becaue you make the rest of us look like complete assholes. Is it odd that I'm racist against my own race and want nothing more than to be saved from members of my own sex and relgion? :headbang:
Jester III
23-02-2005, 11:27
i think this thread is pretty funny. ever listen to any oi lyrics, servus?
:confused:
Oi is pretty neutral in political leanings. The lyrics deal mostly with drinking, fighting, love/sex and dont-let-them-get-you-down. There is a lot martial language in there, but it is class- or subculture related. Like in "We may be bluecollars or even workless, but we have our place in society as well, damn snobs. Want a bloody face to remember that?"
Take it from this old skinhead, we arent all racist and neonazis. There is the whole political spectrum represented within the scene and Oi-Skins are the non-voters.
The skinny about skins. (http://www.io.com/~qsb/words/faq/skin.html)
Lot 'bout skins (http://www.skinheadnation.co.uk/)
Speedin
23-02-2005, 12:33
Those of you who voted for opition four. Seems to me you are afraid becuase you know the blacks are mad at the whites for all the years of crap the blacks had to endure because of the white mans polices as we the white man are supreme. Well looks like seems to all the sins of the past commited by the white man on the black shall come back to haunt them.

That is a stupid cop out. I grew up in the south and went to school with blacks. They had the same chance at an education that I had. They were not enslaved. My ancesters were Irish, you want to talk about ppl who had to endure years of crap? I am not where I am today because of my ancesters. I made myself what I am and so did everyone else. Trying to blame whites for black problems is a cop out and the cowards way out.

Now I have to go to work. I'll check this thread again tonight.
Parkland Bruisers
23-02-2005, 12:49
I find it strange that a lot of the black people that I know try to be very intimidating sometimes. I never understood why that is, and not all of my black friends do it, but it is something I noticed.

BTW, I still haven't seen a good, straight answer the question on hand in the first place. If you don't know what this question is, look at teh subject of the poll.
Sskiss
23-02-2005, 12:51
"Blacks" aren't more violent. I hang out with many "blacks" and i 've never experienced any violent tendencies. The reason more crimes are comitted by "blacks" is because many are economically disadvantaged. Whites would be doing the same thing in their spot. Its not a question of race but of social and economic equality

I disagree, I was from an "economically disadvantaged" upbringing. I never commited any crime. I used my ecomonic disadvantage as a strength rather than a weakness. For if I can lead a life with less, then surely I must be better off without needed all this crap to be "happy"....

I've always found that "I was from a poor family/upbringing etc, etc"... just so much cop out crap. Tighten your belt and stop crying like some damned baby that you do not have a shiny, new badly made SUV. Get off you' re damned ass and walk!

I heard those lyrics before, and it's obvious they are racist! And although there may not be many out there, this stuff is Popular! Which means that it has heavy circulation. Which in turn means a lot of youngters are infuanced and brainwashed by it.....And as a result, the violent crime rate goes up!

If a white racist band put out trash like this, they would get alot more flack from it, of that I'm sure!
Rashaulge
23-02-2005, 13:14
ever been enslaved? go drown yourself.

You know anyone that have been enslaved? Who held them as slaves?
Katganistan
23-02-2005, 13:24
Servus Dei, you are warned for trolling.