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Contest Over!

Final results:

Neo-Anarchists 21 (Possibly 20 as Vittos withdrew his vote, which was for NA)
Keruvalia 9
FairyTInkArisen 7 (possibly 8, but I don't know if the "go Tink!" post was a vote or just a cheerleader)

Eutrusca did get 16 votes, but he dropped himself from the running.

Congratulations, Neo! You can now add another trophy to your fireplace. :)

I vote "all of the above".

all of the above.......

all of the above

another "all of the above"

all of the above

I have changed my mind and my vote goes for Neo Anarchists.

Eutrusca

i don't think that, deep down, anyone truly wants this to be an all of the above situation. Eutrusca. but barely. :D

i don't think that, deep down, anyone truly wants this to be an all of the above situation. Eutrusca. but barely. :D
i'd like to choose one, but it is TOO hard!

damn my indecisiveness. this is taking longer then it should.

i will have to go with neo-anarchists.

All of the Above.

i'd like to choose one, but it is TOO hard!

I'm glad I've abstained from voting. This would be impossible for me.

So damn close...but Eutrusca

Neo-Anarchists

Etrusca, no questions asked

No offense to any of the finalists, but I still have to stand by my original nominee, Niccolo Medici. None of the above.

keru...tg

Vote "all" for me! They all rock!

keru...tg

Replied ... and you have the best flag ever! (I smell a potential new competition coming ...)

No offense to any of the finalists, but I still have to stand by my original nominee, Niccolo Medici. None of the above.

No worries. Nobody will be offended ... lest they taste the back of me hand!

No worries. Nobody will be offended ... lest they taste the back of me hand!
*slurp*
It doesn't taste offensive to me...
:confused:

i don't think that, deep down, anyone truly wants this to be an all of the above situation.
*looks deep down inside*
Gues what? I truly really want a 4 way tie.

I VOTE ALL OF THE AbOvE...and then some.

Neo Anarchists

Eutrusca

Servus Dei.

>_>
<_<

Tink!

Screw this "all the above" niceness ;)

*slurp*
It doesn't taste offensive to me...
:confused:

Oh shoot ... forgot to dip it in dog poo first.

If you're going to slap somebody, make sure you dip your hand in dog poo first!

It's just good advise.

uh oh i hope Tink's not mad at me for not voting for her... :eek:

Hmm.

I vote Neo-Anarchists.

Mmmm, my foot sure is tasty....

Damn internet and its lack of inflection.

Servus Dei.

>_>
<_<

ROFL!

uh oh i hope Tink's not mad at me for not voting for her... :eek:
You best change yo vote, son!

:d

I wonder if a "Funniest NS Troll" competition would be allowed to continue ...

Oh shoot ... forgot to dip it in dog poo first.

If you're going to slap somebody, make sure you dip your hand in dog poo first!

It's just good advise.

if your gonna dip your hand in dog do, put a glove on.

its just good advise

I wonder if a "Funniest NS Troll" competition would be allowed to continue ...
Somehow, I think that either it would be shut down, or it would turn into a flamefest and then be shut down.
:(

I wonder if a "Funniest NS Troll" competition would be allowed to continue ...
Hey, we actually agree on something. :eek:

if your gonna dip your hand in dog do, put a glove on.

its just good advise
Is an "advise" something you use to clip adverts to walls or something?
:confused:

Somehow, I think that either it would be shut down, or it would turn into a flamefest and then be shut down.
:(

yeah, which isnt all bad. it'd be entertaining while it was around.

we need a contest that i can compete in... maybe "best thread hijacker" :D

*EDIT*
speaking of which, i will shut up now. sorry keruvalia

Is an "advise" something you use to clip adverts to walls or something?
:confused:

wow. i suck at english. and keyboards.

Eutrusca. It was really close. Really really close.

Replied ... and you have the best flag ever! (I smell a potential new competition coming ...)


thanks doll! LOL....thats truely representative of my real life surroundings

International vote counters (me) are keeping an eye on this thread to make sure the power holders don't hijack it and destroy democracy...


*go Eutrusca*

Go Tink!

:fluffle:

all of the above

all of above

Its a close race between Eutrusca and Neo. I'm gonna choose Neo, not really because she's beats Eutrusca, but because she was one of the first persons I ever debated with on this forum and is mainly the reason I stayed.

Vote Tink!

:fluffle:

TINK!

i luv ya :)

Neo-Anarchists

I see so many posts by so many people each day, and this girl's posts actually stand out amongst all others. She was among the many people who started out a nobody and worked her way to the top. I must applaud that.

Although I didn't need to add that short paragraph.

I thought NA was a guy(i understand thou) ;)

Tink gets my vote.

Tink gets my vote.
http://67.18.37.16/1381/85/emo/banana.gif

Keruvalia.

My vote goes to Neo-Anarchists!

I vote Neo-A, after reading that first post. :)

FairyTinkArisen.

All of the above - how could I possibly pick between such fine candidates! :)

Keruvalia

Eutrusca. Respect your elders!

uh oh i hope Tink's not mad at me for not voting for her... :eek:
:eek: THE WEDDING'S OFF!!!





just kidding, i don't mind :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Neo Anarchists ( from the available list)

You are all very respectable people.. even though I have had minimal contact with any one really. My vote goes to Eutrusca (the rest of the votes I dont have goes to every one else :))

Keruvalia

Meh, one vote just isn't enough...so

All of the Above please bob :D

Eutrusca

come on you fence sitters pick one

Neo Anarchists

Keruvalia

this was hard vote. i went away for the weekend, and i came back to this!!
before i vote, let me make a little speechthing.
Neo is definitley the nicest person i have met. she is a sarcastic, goofy, sensitive intelligent HONEST poster. she also changed my opinion and thoughts on a very important issue that i had struggled with for a long time. i really truly look forward to reading every post she writes.
Keruvalia- not only is he an awesome LONG HAIRED rocker musician daddy, he also has a tattoo i would pay money to see. no, really, he is very smart, and wonderfully humerous. he also defends his beliefs staunchly, no matter how unpopular they are with certain members. it would be easy for him to hate me, but , as i can so far tell, he doesnt.
but MY VOTE MUST GO EUTRUSCA. not only is he the oldest, wisest, and most thought out person i have seen on the forum, he has lived more life than any of us, but never uses that against people. he chooses to instead apply his experiences and views in lesson form. he has some of the best jokes,esp. when you realize they are made by a 60 plus year old man. just when i think they should start euthanizing all old people because they are useless, along comes an Eutrusca post, and i relax a little.


i was kidding, you know, the last part. no one freak out.

Is an "advise" something you use to clip adverts to walls or something?
:confused:

Yes ..... yes it is ..... *snicker*

Keruvalia- not only is he an awesome LONG HAIRED rocker musician daddy, he also has a tattoo i would pay money to see. no, really, he is very smart, and wonderfully humerous. he also defends his beliefs staunchly, no matter how unpopular they are with certain members. it would be easy for him to hate me, but , as i can so far tell, he doesnt.

Awwww ... you don't have to pay money ... I'll snap a pic and send it to ya.

Hate you? Not possible. You're too much fun, too sexy, and too smart for me to hate you.

I am going to vote for Neo Anarchists

Neo-Anarchists

I am sorry, I respect each of them. However, my deepest respect here is for Lunatic Goofballs.
None of the above. :(

Keruvalia

:eek: THE WEDDING'S OFF!!!

arg!! :eek: :eek:

*heart attack*

just kidding, i don't mind :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

phew...

My vote has to go - out of this group - to Neo-Anarchists. IT was a tough choice, and I respect the honourable author of this thread and the fun girl - I had to make a tough choice.

Frankly, Eutrusca was not ever in the running for me as - despite the description noted - I have far too often encountered him to respond in political debates with snide personal attacks. While I respect his opinions that tactic has always struck me as unworthy.

Neo-A.
I still ain't seen anything from anyone else to make me change my opinion.
Keruvalia rocks too though. Because I said so.

This is a really tough one. I'm tempted to take a cop out "all of the above" vote, but I'll make a choice.

My choice is Eutrusca.

Eutrusca - who responds to snide personal attacks :rolleyes: in a way that his debate opponent is most likely to be able to understand.

Keruvalia.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

http://img239.exs.cx/img239/7741/image1070ur.jpg
The eye of TIN watches this carefully...

I'm sooooo tempted to vote all of the above, but I can't stand fence-sitting, so with a big nod and a hug to all of you that were nominated, and those that have reached the final round, I will cast my vote in favour of:

Neo-Anarchists!

Eutrusca - who responds to snide personal attacks :rolleyes: in a way that his debate opponent is most likely to be able to understand.

Now, now Zooke, Zeppistan debates only with facts. Eutrusca debates with his emotions, that is no secret to any of us who debate or follow debates. Zeppistan is not in this. But don't be insulting my husband when he points out a fact that more than one of us have noticed from Eutrusca time and again. Zep was only being honest.

I vote keruvalia.

It's a hard choice, so I'm taking a throw back to my days playing Dungeons and Dragons, and rolling a die.

*Rolls die, gets a 3*

Well, Keruvalia you win, my vote goes to you.
Bad news though, my Risk set hates me. I rolled only a three.

None of the Above: I don't know these people and, while I'm sure they're respectable enough, I would rather have seen someone else on the final list.

That's my vote. >_>

Eutrusca, for the same reasons as given in the 4th round. I've never noticed any 'snide personal attacks' from him - however, I admit that I'm not here often enough to read everything that goes on. Still, from what I have seen of him, I've found him to be an intelligent and interesting debater and therefore I respect him; and I can only really comment from these personal experiences.

Good luck everyone :)

Now, now Zooke, Zeppistan debates only with facts. Eutrusca debates with his emotions, that is no secret to any of us who debate or follow debates. Zeppistan is not in this. But don't be insulting my husband when he points out a fact that more than one of us have noticed from Eutrusca time and again. Zep was only being honest.

I just don't see why it is necessary to do more than vote...why was there a need to trash one of the candidates? Give all of the reasons you can possibly think of to show that your favorite candidate is the right choice, but to single out one candidate and publically criticize him, is snide and unworthy. Anyway, this isn't the time or place to discuss this. It's enough to say that I don't have the same concept of appropriate behavior. Do I need to mention what was said to a young lady on here that upset her so much...and who said it?

None of the Above

I respect those people, but they weren't my first pick.

I just don't see why it is necessary to do more than vote...why was there a need to trash one of the candidates?

He was just giving his honest opinion, which I agree with, and so do the many people who have sent me TG's who refuse to take part in this contest because he's in it. To each their own I suppose. Many people have given their reasons for voting or not voting the way they did.

Any way, Zep is more than able to back up what he says. I don't think I need to defend his comments beyond this. I know he is more than able to do it himself.

the Neo-Anarchists

He was just giving his honest opinion, which I agree with, and so do the many people who have sent me TG's who refuse to take part in this contest because he's in it. To each their own I suppose. Many people have given their reasons for voting or not voting the way they did.

Any way, Zep is more than able to back up what he says. I don't think I need to defend his comments beyond this. I know he is more than able to do it himself.

To not participate because they don't like one or some of the candidates is a defeatist attitude. I suspect his politics and military background weighs heavily against him in yours and your NS buddies' eyes. I don't have time to read all of the posts on here right now, so I will expand my rebuff to all to whom it applies. Why is it necessary to make negative comments about a candidate when you could spend your time by making positive statements about someone else?

Eutrusca: A genuinely nice man. A Veteran of the United States Army and a strong voice for NS Conservatives without being fanatical. He always has a kind word for everyone he meets and he is often seen as the perennial NS grandfather. His advice comes from his years of wisdom, but his years have not turned him into an "old blowhard".

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Zooke, Steph, this is pointless, why don't you just agree to disagree?

Mmkay ... can we not argue this here?

Zeppistan didn't say anything remotely disrespectful concerning Eutrusca and don't start lumping in the whole "NS buddies" thing. I happen to be a combat veteran of the US Army as well, but mine and Eut's politics are rather different. So we can leave the whole Vet thing out of it as well.

Vote on someone's merits or, as one nice fellow did, on the roll of a die. :D

At any rate, go argue in your own thread.

No offence intended to anyone here, but I'm glad I walked and stayed walked.

I will go and re-post that half page diatribe from the former thread if this persists. Everyone just stop with the damned bickering already - theres no need for personal attacks of any size in here - just stop it!

This thread, and all that came before, were meant as entertainment - let them be just that, please!

:(

I'm thinkin' I know what my next contest will be. And it will be completely unrelated to people!

I suspect his politics and military background weighs heavily against him in yours and your NS buddies' eyes.

No, actually it's his tactics of personal attack on his opponent that weighs heavily on people like my husband. When Eutrusca is losing an argument it's actually what he does. He's even been warned for it.

Any way, Zep said it, not me, I'll let Zep explain it if and when he can find the time (he's at work)

I'm thinkin' I know what my next contest will be. And it will be completely unrelated to people!


let it be a chili cook off! I'm SURE to win that!!! :D

let it be a chili cook off! I'm SURE to win that!!! :D

lol ... that would take forever! We could all post our recipes, then everyone prepares everyone else's and we taste test?

Sounds fun ... but whoa!

eutrusca

I just don't see why it is necessary to do more than vote...why was there a need to trash one of the candidates? Give all of the reasons you can possibly think of to show that your favorite candidate is the right choice, but to single out one candidate and publically criticize him, is snide and unworthy. Anyway, this isn't the time or place to discuss this. It's enough to say that I don't have the same concept of appropriate behavior. Do I need to mention what was said to a young lady on here that upset her so much...and who said it?

Zooke, I did not "trash" anyone. I simply expressed the reason why someone did not get my vote as opposed to those who did. And that has nothing to do with his politics and/or military background as I am very proud of the serving members of my family and I hold various debating opponents here in high regard. Indeed, at this point it seems to be YOU who is flinging muck around and defending him based on your own political afiliation.

Had I intended to vote the person whose politics most closely match mine I would have probably gone with Kuruvalia. I didn't.

Now I don't have time to go back to find a long list of the posts that Eutrusca has made that have led me to my opinion right now - I'm at work. But I do recall one from yesterdayhere (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=399810&page=5) where I was having a very polite exchange with Whispering Legs (someone who's political views are even further from mine than Eutrusca's), and he felt it appropriate to jump in the middle of our conversation simply to level a snide remark at me which I found abhorent in that it implied that I actually took personal pleasure from the ongoing death and destruction in Iraq. It added nothing to the subject at hand - and was clearly injected only for personal reasons.

That sort of thing sums up my recent discourse with this poster and why I do not rank them at the top of my respect list. And it was clearly not done as you implied as "<a> response to snide personal attacks in a way that his debate opponent is most likely to be able to understand" as clearly the conversation was going along very politely without him as a participant at that point. And this was a very mild example of a trend I have found with him lately - it was just the most recent example that I knew where to find it.


Anyway - I've said my peace and the thread author has asked that this matter be dropped. I just could not let your assertions as to my motives and character rest without a proper response.

Stephistan certainly has a nasty streak in her.

This is like three fights in three consecutive contests. Is she like this at home, Zepp?

Stephistan certainly has a nasty streak in her.

This is like three fights in three consecutive contests. Is she like this at home, Zepp?
she is a woman! we all have a nasty streak! http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/mad/26.gif

Stephistan certainly has a nasty streak in her.

This is like three fights in three consecutive contests. Is she like this at home, Zepp?

No, it was only two. First one was a complete farse. Blind voting, please.

As for this one, I was only defending what my husband said. I didn't even start it..and there was the thing with Tink, which we have more than settled.

No, I'm not like this with Zeppistan because he is fair, the most respected person in my life. A great person, a loving father and the best husband a woman could ever want.

If trying to keep people on the up and up is a nasty streak, so be it.

No, it was only two. First one was a complete farse. Blind voting, please.

As for this one, I was only defending what my husband said. I didn't even start it..and there was the thing with Tink, which we have more than settled.

No, I'm not like this with Zeppistan because he is fair, the most respected person in my life. A great person, a loving father and the best husband a woman could ever want.

If trying to keep people on the up and up is a nasty streak, so be it.

Geez, no need to bite my head off. ;)

Geez, no need to bite my head off. ;)

Hahaha point taken. ;)

Stephistan certainly has a nasty streak in her.

This is like three fights in three consecutive contests. Is she like this at home, Zepp?

VO, don't worry about it. I apparently was out of line to ask if people needed to say anything if they couldn't say something positive, so I left the thread as requested and let the others continue to take their shots at me.

BTW, don't I owe you a poke in the nose? :p

Now, now Zooke, Zeppistan debates only with facts. Eutrusca debates with his emotions, that is no secret to any of us who debate or follow debates. Zeppistan is not in this. But don't be insulting my husband when he points out a fact that more than one of us have noticed from Eutrusca time and again. Zep was only being honest.
You're bashing Eutrusca after voting for Tink in the previous round? Come on, wtf?

Eutrusca is a great poster. I don't think he's one of the best debaters here, and I am often in conflict with him. He is intelligent, friendly, and has a sense of humour.

let it be a chili cook off! I'm SURE to win that!!! :D
All your five-alarm chili are belong to us.

VO, don't worry about it. I apparently was out of line to ask if people needed to say anything if they couldn't say something positive, so I left the thread as requested and let the others continue to take their shots at me.

I don't believe any one has taken any shots at you. You also haven't left the thread..lol Not that I think you should. ;)

remind me never to get nominated in anything on this forum

On a vote like this that is meant to be ENTERTAINING, you should be extolling the virtues of the candidate of your choice. "Badmouthing" a candidate, even if it's truthful is IMO just plain rude.

I have my issues with one or more of the candidates. That's why I picked None of the Above. I'm not going to subject this contest to my personal opinions of any of the candidates.

You're bashing Eutrusca after voting for Tink in the previous round? Come on, wtf?

Eutrusca is a great poster. I don't think he's one of the best debaters here, and I am often in conflict with him. He is intelligent, friendly, and has a sense of humour.
and what exactly is that supposed to mean young man?

You're bashing Eutrusca after voting for Tink in the previous round? Come on, wtf?

Eutrusca is a great poster. I don't think he's one of the best debaters here, and I am often in conflict with him. He is intelligent, friendly, and has a sense of humour.

I have no problems with his opinions, I've just seen him lose more than once in a debate to Zeppistan and resort to personal attacks, not very mature. That's all I'm saying. It's my husband who brought it up, take it up with him. I am just agreeing that I've seen the same thing more than once when he loses a debate.

VO, don't worry about it. I apparently was out of line to ask if people needed to say anything if they couldn't say something positive, so I left the thread as requested and let the others continue to take their shots at me.

BTW, don't I owe you a poke in the nose? :p

*runs away screaming*

Swimmingpool, Nadkor, stop her!

I have no problems with his opinions, I've just seen him lose more than once in a debate to Zeppistan and resort to personal attacks, not very mature. That's all I'm saying. It's my husband who brought it up, take it up with him. I am just agreeing that I've seen the same thing more than once when he loses a debate.

*stops running like a girl*

Respect isn't won through debate

*continues running like a girl*

This competition ends at 8:00 pm CST/2:00 pm UTC, February 23rd.

This has been iritating me throughout: you seem to be 24 hours too late each time. 2:00pm UTC/GMT February 23rd passed five hours ago - it isn't still 19 hours in the future, unless I'm very much mistaken (checks the Greenwich site - no, I don't seem to be).

*stops running like a girl*

Respect isn't won through debate

*continues running like a girl*


Thats why you didnt get nominated Vit, cause you run like a girl! :fluffle:

I have no problems with his opinions, I've just seen him lose more than once in a debate to Zeppistan and resort to personal attacks, not very mature. That's all I'm saying. It's my husband who brought it up, take it up with him. I am just agreeing that I've seen the same thing more than once when he loses a debate.
Steph, you know that I love you, but I feel that it's quite relevant to point out the fact that what youre doing falls short of being mature either.

Its quite alright not to have respect for someone, but quite another to feel it nessecary to single that one person out and declare openly why. Theres no purpose in it other than to ruffle feathers.

Perhaps I'm guilty of doling out too much diplomacy when it comes to these things, and this is just an opinion... but I feel it's one that has been validated time and time again herein. So call it cliche if you must, but if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. You are of course entitled to your opinions, and from time to time you may be called upon for them - but on a personal level shouldn't they be kept to yourself?

Thats why you didnt get nominated Vit, cause you run like a girl! :fluffle:
does that mean i must run like a man? :confused:

Thats why you didnt get nominated Vit, cause you run like a girl! :fluffle:

My feminine gait has held me back my entire life.

does that mean i must run like a man? :confused:

No...you run like a fairy! Fly! Fly like a fairy I mean!

My feminine gait has held me back my entire life.


LOL.....

No...you run like a fairy! Fly! Fly like a fairy I mean!
*evil glare*........................................ok then! :D

This is amazing. Another contest ruined by petty bickering. Just lovely.

Incidentally, and this is not a statement for or against Eutrusca, but he has been warned previously for flaming.

Well, I was going to abstain, but now I really feel Eutrusca deserves the support: I vote Eutrusca.

This is amazing. Another contest ruined by petty bickering. Just lovely.

Incidentally, and this is not a statement for or against Eutrusca, but he has been warned previously for flaming.

Just as Tink has been deated for whatever reason. Goes to show rule breakers can in fact be respected.

*respects y'all*

Just as Tink has been deated for whatever reason. Goes to show rule breakers can in fact be respected.

*respects y'all*

I only know because I'm the one that reported him. It doeesn't necessarily mean he is undeserving of respect, but it is reasonable to believe that some people might hold rule-breakers in lower standing.

I only know because I'm the one that reported him. It doeesn't necessarily mean he is undeserving of respect, but it is reasonable to believe that some people might hold rule-breakers in lower standing.


very true.

Well, I was going to abstain, but now I really feel Eutrusca deserves the support: I vote Eutrusca.

Eutrusca doesn't need the support, he has lots of supporters, and I think he is more than capable of defending himself.

I am sure that even Eutrusca will tell you that he argues on emotion with some issues. *cough*Kerry*cough* But he also is very respectable in the fact he is kind to all posters, usually, and he has firm, respectable convictions that he stands by and supports.

Personally, I don't think anyone should detract from any of the posters on here, whether it is true or not.

very true.

I just wanted it to be known that it was actually true and not just something that Steph made up to disparage Mr. Horn.

Neo-Anarchists

Swimmingpool kicks ass!

Well as far as debating issues with emotion....how is that wrong? If we sat here and debated things based on the facts alone-whats the point? Thats not debate. Thats a regurgitation of facts. Debate relies on opinions sometimes much more than it does facts. In fact, thats one of the problems with our government, they dont have any(or much) passion about anything. Get excited, get mad, get frustrated.....whatever moves you is likely to provoke you to get something done. We can sit here and volly statistics back and forth all day long. Show me someone who feels passionately about their opinions .......... that is something well deserving of respect.

Well as far as debating issues with emotion....how is that wrong? If we sat here and debated things based on the facts alone-whats the point? Thats not debate. Thats a regurgitation of facts. Debate relies on opinions sometimes much more than it does facts. In fact, thats one of the problems with our government, they dont have any(or much) passion about anything. Get excited, get mad, get frustrated.....whatever moves you is likely to provoke you to get something done. We can sit here and volly statistics back and forth all day long. Show me someone who feels passionately about their opinions .......... that is something well deserving of respect.

Debating out of emotion is a faulty form of debating. Not that it can't accomplish something, but it is a very inefficient way of doing it, and can lead to faulty conclusions.

Debating should be about making statements and supporting them through facts and logical deductions until a definitive conclusion is reached. Emotion can throw a very, very large wrench into the deal.

We've been thru it before, but since you asked

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.p...67&postcount=86

I'm just gonna ignore that because that arguement was resolved and I gave my reasons for not bothering with intelligent debate on this forum

This has been iritating me throughout: you seem to be 24 hours too late each time. 2:00pm UTC/GMT February 23rd passed five hours ago - it isn't still 19 hours in the future, unless I'm very much mistaken (checks the Greenwich site - no, I don't seem to be).

Quiet, you. :p

Debating out of emotion is a faulty form of debating. Not that it can't accomplish something, but it is a very inefficient way of doing it, and can lead to faulty conclusions.

Debating should be about making statements and supporting them through facts and logical deductions until a definitive conclusion is reached. Emotion can throw a very, very large wrench into the deal.


So if I were to lobby for the protection of children, say in regards to abuse and neglect, I should present my case based soley on the %'s of children who were abused over the past few years? Throw in which states that occured in and then ask the government to get riled up about it and allocate several million dollars so that the appropriate number of social service workers can be hired and have a caseload of 10 instead of 50.
I think I might get more accomplished if I presented my case with a clear expression of my desire to help children. By showing them specific cases that detail what kinds of abuse are going on. By directly appealing to their human side, or emotions, if you will, so that they might actually go back to their conference room and discuss the two year old boy whos mom put him on top of the stove while it was on. Or the 10 year old who was raped and beaten by her moms boyfriend and then her wounds sewn up with fishing line by him. Or the two 14 year olds who were starved so badly that they weigh 36 and 38 pounds.Maybe, just maybe....if they got emotional about those particular facts.....they'd vote to appropriate the money.

Or I could just leave emotion out and hope my stats were enough to convince them.

I vote for Neo-Anarchists.

So if I were to lobby for the protection of children, say in regards to abuse and neglect, I should present my case based soley on the %'s of children who were abused over the past few years? Throw in which states that occured in and then ask the government to get riled up about it and allocate several million dollars so that the appropriate number of social service workers can be hired and have a caseload of 10 instead of 50.
I think I might get more accomplished if I presented my case with a clear expression of my desire to help children. By showing them specific cases that detail what kinds of abuse are going on. By directly appealing to their human side, or emotions, if you will, so that they might actually go back to their conference room and discuss the two year old boy whos mom put him on top of the stove while it was on. Or the 10 year old who was raped and beaten by her moms boyfriend and then her wounds sewn up with fishing line by him. Or the two 14 year olds who were starved so badly that they weigh 36 and 38 pounds.Maybe, just maybe....if they got emotional about those particular facts.....they'd vote to appropriate the money.

Or I could just leave emotion out and hope my stats were enough to convince them.

It might be more effective as a means to your ends to appeal to their emotions, but the use of emotion and opinion in debate is still considered inferior and faulty.

And my vote goes to:
Tink! Because I wish to live please. :p

It might be more effective as a means to your ends to appeal to their emotions, but the use of emotion and opinion in debate is still considered inferior and faulty.

Who writes the rulebook of debate anyway? I'm not talking about jumping up and down and yelling 'youre wrong, I'm right!!" at anyone. I'm simply saying that how we feel about a subject is very important. Its what seperates the differences we have in the first place. What is the point of debating an issue if you dont have some sort of fire inside about it? Debate should produce a resolution or at a minimum.....spark consideration and thoughts about the subject matter.

Who writes the rulebook of debate anyway? I'm not talking about jumping up and down and yelling 'youre wrong, I'm right!!" at anyone. I'm simply saying that how we feel about a subject is very important. Its what seperates the differences we have in the first place. What is the point of debating an issue if you dont have some sort of fire inside about it? Debate should produce a resolution or at a minimum.....spark consideration and thoughts about the subject matter.

Another thing to note is that you presented actual cases of child abuse. Sympathy is another form of reason, and while you may not make any progress as to what to do about child abuse, you certainly will prove that child abuse is a horrible thing.

Another thing to note is that you presented actual cases of child abuse. Sympathy is another form of reason, and while you may not make any progress as to what to do about child abuse, you certainly will prove that child abuse is a horrible thing.

Right...because I said that opinions/emotion in addition to facts. Not just pure emotion running wild. If sympathy is what I need to invoke to achieve the results I previously mentioned.....then so be it. And even if all I accomplish is making more people aware of whats going on with the abuse of children, then perhaps somehow, be it directly or indirectly.... a child somewhere might be removed from a harmful situation before its too late.

But you and SD are smart guys, you know what I' saying here. I guess its that passion and emotion are what leads us to get involved in a debate in the first place. Then perhaps a more formal design of expression is applied.

Please don't take this contest personal, it's not so important anyway because I'm not in it. :)

*hugs Haken*

Please don't take this contest personal, it's not so important anyway because I'm not in it. :)
boy is that true, guy who knocked me out of the first round of Nicest Guy. :D

Who writes the rulebook of debate anyway? I'm not talking about jumping up and down and yelling 'youre wrong, I'm right!!" at anyone. I'm simply saying that how we feel about a subject is very important. Its what seperates the differences we have in the first place. What is the point of debating an issue if you dont have some sort of fire inside about it? Debate should produce a resolution or at a minimum.....spark consideration and thoughts about the subject matter.

http://www.kings.edu/debate/rules.htm

http://cas.bethel.edu/dept/comm/npda/npdarules.html

There is most certainly accepted rules for debating. Yes, you may feel emotion and even passion in what you debate, but if the facts don't back up your assertions, it's all rather moot, emotion or not.

boy is that true, guy who knocked me out of the first round of Nicest Guy. :D
That's because I'm girly, so the mostly male population of NS voted according to their instincts. (no, don't think about that). ;)

@LM: aw, and your the only one who make the little line in there sig look cool.

WARNING:
Before people start bitching again (I'm not going to call names Step ;) ), click this link, this is for everybody!

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Good, now you're mind is clear again.
Please carry on and post a nice comment.

http://www.kings.edu/debate/rules.htm

http://cas.bethel.edu/dept/comm/npda/npdarules.html


I dont think NS qualifies as "tournament debate" , but you read my last post. Thats my point......the last 2 sentences. (#146)

There is most certainly accepted rules for debating. Yes, you may feel emotion and even passion in what you debate, but if the facts don't back up your assertions, it's all rather moot, emotion or not.


Yes, absolutely....the facts must be clear and accurate of course.

I dont think NS qualifies as "tournament debate" , but you read my last post. Thats my point......the last 2 sentences.

Well with all this "He's 60, life experience sh*t" one would think he would know better. If age is what we need for respect, than 2/3rds of you should respect me because I'm older than you. That's hogwash. Age has nothing to do with it. If you lose, you lose, you don't resort to petty personal attacks because some one out debated you. Which I have seen Zeppistan do time and time again. I believe I've seen others do it as well.

He maybe a lovely fellow, but most respected? Another farce. However kudos to Keruvalia for running a fair contest unlike the last few that have been run.

But the very fact that so many have not taken part in the contest because he was nominated, still puts the results in question. You know what, I don't really care what you think of me for saying the truth. Because that is what it is, the truth!

I dont think NS qualifies as "tournament debate" , but you read my last post. Thats my point......the last 2 sentences. (#146)

Right. Well you asked who makes up the rules for debate, and I gave you the answer.

Oh, Goddess above!
Must every contest turn into an arguing match? Keruvalia has to go through this thread and tally the votes, and the arguments aren't helping him any.

If you must argue, could you at least take it somewhere else? Another thread, possibly? I am sure Keruvalia would appreciate it greatly if he didn't hav to wade through all of this as he tries to tally.


In fact, Keruvalia asked you all pages ago to take it to another thread. I am quite sure he'd be quite relieved if you did so.

Well with all this "He's 60, life experience sh*t" one would think he would know better. If age is what we need for respect, than 2/3rds of you should respect me because I'm older than you. That's hogwash. Age has nothing to do with it. If you lose, you lose, you don't resort to petty personal attacks because some one out debated you. Which I have seen Zeppistan do time and time again. I believe I've seen others do it as well.

He maybe a lovely fellow, but most respected? Another farce. However kudos to Keruvalia for running a fair contest unlike the last few that have been run.

But the very fact that so many have not taken part in the contest because he was nominated, still puts the results in question. You know what, I don't really care what you think of me for saying the truth. Because that is what it is, the truth!

I think you and SD must be under the impression I am trying to defend Eutrusca in regards to something he may have said to you or Zep in the past that you felt was offensive. That is NOT what I am doing, so please do not make it seem like you are making your points to me. I was replying to VO about emotionless debate. I have already stated my points on that, so go back and read them. My opinion on that particular subject has nothing to do with you, Zep or Eutrusca.
I did nominate him and I did vote for him, but thats my choice. Apparently many people's choice. But it doesnt take away from the fact that Zep is a highly respected member on this site as well. Two well respected men on here who just do not see eye to eye.


and Keruvalia rocks to infinity with his contest handling skills (and skater skillz.....see someone did mention that ;) )

Right. Well you asked who makes up the rules for debate, and I gave you the answer.


it was a rhetorical question, but I do appreciate your links.

Can't you people take a hint.

argument (http://img93.exs.cx/img93/558/sexy4xl.jpg)

Steph, Sdaeriji, Peechy, I want you in seperate corners of the thread now!

Tink

Well with all this "He's 60, life experience sh*t" one would think he would know better. If age is what we need for respect, than 2/3rds of you should respect me because I'm older than you. That's hogwash. Age has nothing to do with it. If you lose, you lose, you don't resort to petty personal attacks because some one out debated you. Which I have seen Zeppistan do time and time again. I believe I've seen others do it as well.

He maybe a lovely fellow, but most respected? Another farce. However kudos to Keruvalia for running a fair contest unlike the last few that have been run.

But the very fact that so many have not taken part in the contest because he was nominated, still puts the results in question. You know what, I don't really care what you think of me for saying the truth. Because that is what it is, the truth!

I hate to say this but Stephistan can suck sometimes.

Steph, Sdaeriji, Peechy, I want you in seperate corners of the thread now!


I have nothing but respect for sd and steph....i guess we are just debating an issue-lol. hopefully we wont resort to yo mama jokes though! :eek:

You know what, I don't really care what you think of me for saying the truth. Because that is what it is, the truth!

In that case, I think you stole the cookies from the cookie jar.

Darnit woman, I wanted those cookies...:(

My opinion on that particular subject has nothing to do with you, Zep or Eutrusca

Fair enough, but I remember the days when a contest was on it's merit, back when Zeppistan won the best debater on this site. I think he's proven it time and time again. But there is some thing seriously wrong when people get voted off the island like, Zeppistan, Bottle, for heck's sake even Cog. Most respected? That should mean some thing, at least it does where I come from. I know it's just an Internet poll, of people willing to take part, because my telegram box was full of people saying WTF? So many got tossed when they were and are the most respected, it all comes down to a popularity contest of the willing. I actually am not happy with all the people who refused to take part because he was nominated. They could of killed him in the water if they had.

So, at the end of the day, maybe he'll win.. I say win loosely.. but he is by no means even close to the most respected player on these forums, nor am I.

I think you and SD must be under the impression I am trying to defend Eutrusca in regards to something he may have said to you or Zep in the past that you felt was offensive. That is NOT what I am doing, so please do not make it seem like you are making your points to me. I was replying to VO about emotionless debate. I have already stated my points on that, so go back and read them. My opinion on that particular subject has nothing to do with you, Zep or Eutrusca.
I did nominate him and I did vote for him, but thats my choice. Apparently many people's choice. But it doesnt take away from the fact that Zep is a highly respected member on this site as well. Two well respected men on here who just do not see eye to eye.


and Keruvalia rocks to infinity with his contest handling skills (and skater skillz.....see someone did mention that ;) )

I'm not under any impressions. I couldn't care less what anyone thinks about anyone else, so long as it doesn't affect me adversely. I simply confirmed that Eutrusca had previously been warned for flaming and why that might be relevant to this contest. I have a great deal of respect for Eutrusca for what he is and what he's done. I don't respect him the MOST, hence why I have not voted for him.

Fair enough, but I remember the days when a contest was on it's merit, back when Zeppistan won the best debater on this site. I think he's proven it time and time again. But there is some thing seriously wrong when people get voted off the island like, Zeppistan, Bottle, for heck's sake even Cog. Most respected? That should mean some thing, at least it does where I come from. I know it's just an Internet poll, of people willing to take part, because my telegram box was full of people saying WTF? So many got tossed when they were and are the most respected, it all comes down to a popularity contest of the willing. I actually am not happy with all the people who refused to take part because he was nominated. They could of killed him in the water if they had.

So, at the end of the day, maybe he'll win.. I say win loosely.. but he is by no means even close to the most respected player on these forums, nor am I.
you know what?

you just sound incredibely bitter your husband is out of the running

now seriously, Keruvalia asked for no arguments...

Back to the topic at hand...my vote goes to Keruvalia. :fluffle:

Steph, Sdaeriji, Peechy, I want you in seperate corners of the thread now!

Come on, that's not fair. I haven't said anything even remotely combative.

Come on, that's not fair. I haven't said anything even remotely combative.
no talking back! this is the second time today that i've had to have words with you young man!



and on a serious note, everyone has different reasons for respecting others, therefore not everybody is gonna respect the same people, therefore you should all be quiet and let people vote for whoever the hell they like!

you know what?

you just sound incredibely bitter your husband is out of the running

now seriously, Keruvalia asked for no arguments...

My husband is by far one of the best debaters on this site, speaking of contests, he won that one. But I don't recall him ever being warned for flaming nor do I recall Bottle being warned nor has Cog reported himself.

It is what it is.

Come on, that's not fair. I haven't said anything even remotely combative.
I take offense to that.

My husband is by far one of the best debaters on this site, speaking of contests, he won that one. But I don't recall him ever being warned for flaming not do I recall Bottle being warned nor has Cog reported himself.

It is what it is.

Best debater =/= Most respected


I take offense to that.


I bet you do.

My husband is by far one of the best debaters on this site, speaking of contests, he won that one. But I don't recall him ever being warned for flaming nor do I recall Bottle being warned nor has Cog reported himself.

It is what it is.
thats not what alot of people are basing this on

its respect for the person, for what they have done, for how they have stuck to beliefs etc

its stuff like that - not whether or not someone is a good debater, or whether or not they have been warned...

Fair enough, but I remember the days when a contest was on it's merit, back when Zeppistan won the best debater on this site. I think he's proven it time and time again. But there is some thing seriously wrong when people get voted off the island like, Zeppistan, Bottle, for heck's sake even Cog. Most respected? That should mean some thing, at least it does where I come from. I know it's just an Internet poll, of people willing to take part, because my telegram box was full of people saying WTF? So many got tossed when they were and are the most respected, it all comes down to a popularity contest of the willing. I actually am not happy with all the people who refused to take part because he was nominated. They could of killed him in the water if they had.

So, at the end of the day, maybe he'll win.. I say win loosely.. but he is by no means even close to the most respected player on these forums, nor am I.

You are obviously upset about the way others have chosen to vote because they do not agree with your opinions of certain nominees. I'm sure you have your reasons for feeling the way you do. You have 6000 + more post experience and interaction with this group than I, but in my time here, I've formed my own opinions of who is and who is not respectable,, likeable, loveable, funny, whatever. Just as the other members have. If you feel differently than we do, thats splendid....youre entitled. But you do not have to be so accusatory and in attack mode. I have no problems with you and do not wish to develope any today. I'd just appreciate it in the future if you wouldnt direct things toward me that have nothing to do with previous comments I've made. I say this in a polite tone and clarify that since we cannot always interpret the tone of text online.

It is what it is.

You should stick to that, and let others respect who they want.

umm...

:fluffle: anyone?

and apologies to Keruvalia for the current covnersation, but since this is about respect and NSers...it needed to be said. I'm done now....I have yummy goodness to go cook for the fam.

You should stick to that, and let others respect who they want.

Fair enough, I didn't even start this, my husband did. I'm done. :fluffle:

Re: CST/UTC

Quiet, you. :p

This could be an escape route.

Fair enough, I didn't even start this, my husband did. I'm done. :fluffle:

Hallelujah!

After much serious thought between Eutrusca and Neo-Anarchists, my vote must go to Neo. The reason for this is because while Eutrusca is most certainly the wise old guy with indispensable information on these forums, he is eclipsed by the young heroine, i.e. Neo-Anarchists. As such, I have no choice but to vote for Neo. And yes, I've been playing entirely too many rpgs lately.



As a side note, the odor of sour grapes is strong in this thread for some reason.

As a side note, the odor of sour grapes is strong in this thread for some reason.
I know, but it seems Keruvalia took the pine-scented air freshener with him when he left.
:(

i vote for tink cuz she says if i dont she will kill me...(not if i can ruin ur weding with my exploding ambulace :D)

i vote for tink cuz she says if i dont she will kill me...(not if i can ruin ur weding with my exploding ambulace :D)
*jams the gun further into TCC's back*

I never said any such thing *innocent smile*

So, I've been running a tally of individual people (ignoring all of the above category, such a cop-out) but as I've waded through since I stopped tallying last night, the angst on this supposedly happy thread has been so consuming that there are two instances where NO votes were cast...

Eutrusca has officially dropped
himself out of the running.

Reason: Not wanting to add more division to an already divisive contest.

That is all.

*mumbles something she probably shouldnt*

Son Of A Bitch!!!!

I withdraw all of my votes. This is no longer a representative contest.

COWARD!

*chases Eutrusca with a pitchfork*

If Eutrusca is out of the running then I vote NONE OF THE ABOVE. The whole competition has been side railed and sabotaged by a couple of people who cause trouble everytime something doesn't go their way. Eutrusca has been nothing but fair and honest and when a couple of whiners can run off a decent man like that, then I say the whole election has been made null. One of them tried to run off another of the finalists but she came back. If Eutrusca will come back then chalk my vote for him.

Has anyone tried to dissuade him from leaving the contest? He shouldn't feel pressured just because of petty bickering.

Eutrusca has officially dropped himself out of the running.

Salute to Eutrusca.

Has anyone tried to dissuade him from leaving the contest? He shouldn't feel pressured just because of petty bickering.

He is, of course, welcome to come back. But he's only got 1/2 an hour to do it.

He is, of course, welcome to come back. But he's only got 1/2 an hour to do it.

Or possibly minus eleven and half hours.

Has anyone tried to dissuade him from leaving the contest? He shouldn't feel pressured just because of petty bickering.

He didn't vote or participate in this competition. Actually, I think he has shown more maturity than most everyone else.

Has anyone tried to dissuade him from leaving the contest? He shouldn't feel pressured just because of petty bickering.

yes i tg 'd him with support and a PEP talk, but i havent heard from him. ugh

None of the above... sorry, mates.

A shame the heavy hitters have dropped out of the contest, but anyway:

Neo-Anarchists

Because she embodies so much of the diversity that makes NS good, and all in one person. ;)

Or possibly minus eleven and half hours.
Not just me had a problem with that then. Right or wrong, that's a relief.

On balance, a good thing that it didn't put people off.

At 15 minutes until contest end, Neo is the clear winner even if Eutrusca comes back into it. I am in 2nd and Tink 3rd. If Eut comes back, Eut will be 2nd.

All of the Above does have 12 votes, but votes for individual people take presidence.

What I've got so far:

Neo-Anarchists 21 (Possibly 20 as Vittos withdrew his vote, which was for NA)
Eutrusca 16
Keruvalia 9
FairyTInkArisen 7 (possibly 8, but I don't know if the "go Tink!" post was a vote or just a cheerleader)

All of the Above 12
None of the Above 6

Or possibly minus eleven and half hours.

I'll never tell ... muahahaha!

Now get to the Wayback machine, you.

Congrats Neo! :)

Congratulations NA. I haven't come across you very often, but when I have I found you to be well worth respect.

CONTEST HAS ENDED.

Thank Allah. Ugh.

Congrats Neo-Anarchists, thankfully some one who at least deserved it won. Yay!

Peace!

Thank Allah. Ugh.

yeah, it got a bit messy at the end, but at least we have a clear winner.
*hands toast of righteousness, jam of divinity, and blade of justice to NA.

Now. Make me some toast and jam. It says it quite clearly in the microprint that the prize for winning is making me some toast and jam.

Congrats Neo-Anarchists, thankfully some one who at least deserved it won. Yay!

Peace!


Youre just full of pleasant things to say arent you? Let it go Steph.

Youre just full of pleasant things to say arent you? Let it go Steph.

I guess I couldn't of said "Congrats" would that of been more positive? lol.. Neo-Anarchists would of won either way, in case you didn't notice. I see nothing wrong with saying congrats to her.

I guess I couldn't of said "Congrats" would that of been more positive? lol.. Neo-Anarchists would of won either way, in case you didn't notice. I see nothing wrong with saying congrats to her.

Your little subtle dig at Eutrusca and Tink was unnecessary.

Youre just full of pleasant things to say arent you? Let it go Steph.

ack... so difficult to say anything without feeling like fueling flames...
perhaps everyone should play "who can be the bigger person and see who can drop the subject fastest?" it's great because the first person to bring it up loses!

Come on.... It's completely un-necessary for this to go any further.

Youre just full of pleasant things to say arent you? Let it go Steph.
Peechland...its past your bedtime.

"Grandpa" wants you in bed.

ack... so difficult to say anything without feeling like fueling flames...
perhaps everyone should play "who can be the bigger person and see who can drop the subject fastest?" it's great because the first person to bring it up loses!

Come on.... It's completely un-necessary for this to go any further.
Agreed, some people will be childish and immature despite age or intelligence in other matters. Consider this a case well closed.

My hat is off to NA, a worthy victor of the three fine candidates. Now make Jordaxia his toast and jam. :) (and if you would be so kind, may I please have a slice with some mango jam while youre at it?)

:fluffle:

Peechland...its past your bedtime.

"Grandpa" wants you in bed.


lol....being in bed with grandpa just isnt right. Oh totally different meaning ay? LOL....

KERU... request a lock on this darn thread

lol....being in bed with grandpa just isnt right. Oh totally different meaning ay? LOL....

KERU... request a lock on this darn thread

I did. :)

Whoa, I won?
:confused:

Odd.

I did. :)


yay!! have i mentioned youre a wicked skater boi? ;)

Your little subtle dig at Eutrusca and Tink was unnecessary.

Tink, I agree with. I have said sorry to her in more than one place.

Eutrusca, I think got every thing he deserved in a non-flaming or flamebait way. Hey, Zep and I could of come up with a bunch of examples had we wished.

Whoa, I won?
:confused:

Odd.
Congrats...Its well deserved.

yay!! have i mentioned youre a wicked skater boi? ;)

I am the only person I know who, on a bet, skated 2 whole blocks in downtown Houston wearing nothing but a pair of Vans. Never bet me I won't get nekkid ... you'll lose. :p

Whoa, I won?
:confused:

Odd.

By a wide margin!

Whoa, I won?
:confused:

Odd.


Yup. *points up at gifts*
you don't want to make Lasc' cry now, eh? He needs his toast and mago jam. I, myself, am not fussy about the flavour of jam, as long as it isn't particularly outlandish. I like blackcurrent best.

*Hands Neo-Anarchists an uber-cookie*

I am the only person I know who, on a bet, skated 2 whole blocks in downtown Houston wearing nothing but a pair of Vans. Never bet me I won't get nekkid ... you'll lose. :p


:eek: oh my.....good thing I wagered LP instead of you! You are libel to do anything....especially on a skateboard! :D

By a wide margin!
Landslide Dude...Landslide :D

:eek: oh my.....good thing I wagered LP instead of you! You are libel to do anything....especially on a skateboard! :D

Skating is freedom. It's practically a religion. I probably feel closest to Allah when I am on my deck.

Yup. *points up at gifts*
you don't want to make Lasc' cry now, eh? He needs his toast and mago jam. I, myself, am not fussy about the flavour of jam, as long as it isn't particularly outlandish. I like blackcurrent best.
What is "mago"?
Oh, hey, that's part of the title of that one album by Can, err, I think it's called "Tago Mago"? Yeah, that album's not bad.

What is "mago"?
Oh, hey, that's part of the title of that one album by Can, err, I think it's called "Tago Mago"? Yeah, that album's not bad.
Mago means Magician

I like Mango better :D

What is "mago"?
Oh, hey, that's part of the title of that one album by Can, err, I think it's called "Tago Mago"? Yeah, that album's not bad.
*shakes NA's hand* Congratulations are in order I do beleive! :)

and about the jam, a small error in my speech... I mean to say mango :p

have you any?

Skating is freedom. It's practically a religion. I probably feel closest to Allah when I am on my deck.
Personally ...I feel closer to Allah when Im on da Airbus :D

*shakes NA's hand* Congratulations are in order I do beleive! :)

and about the jam, a small error in my speech... I mean to say mango :p

have you any?


mmmm.....jam.

Personally ...I feel closer to Allah when Im on da Airbus :D

hehehehe :D

Personally, I don't fly. It's not that I'm afraid or anything, but I actually never fly anywhere. I've only been on an airplane twice in my life and once in a helicopter. When I travel, I either take the train or drive and if going overseas, I take a ship.

well flying scares the ba-Jesus out of me. Someone has to hold my hand on take off. I am not a woman who fears much. But I turn into a weeping idiot on a plane. urg....

*shakes NA's hand* Congratulations are in order I do beleive! :)

and about the jam, a small error in my speech... I mean to say mango :p

have you any?
Baa baa black sheep, have I any mango jam?
"Yes ma'am, yes ma'am, three bags full!" (How do you store mango jam in a bag?)
"One for Lascivious Maximus, one for somebody else, but none for the little boy who cries in the lane."

Oh so sad.
I should answer questions in nursery rhymes more often. Especially whe they're as badly butchered as this one.

well flying scares the ba-Jesus out of me. Someone has to hold my hand on take off. I am not a woman who fears much. But I turn into a weeping idiot on a plane. urg....

Ah ... well they can be rather imposing. I can see how people would be afraid to fly.

Baa baa black sheep, have I any mango jam?
"Yes ma'am, yes ma'am, three bags full!"...
Lets GET It Started...

CELEBRATION PARTY!!!

Opens the Tequila Box...pull 1 Bottle...mixes with the Mango juice.. :fluffle:

Ive flown on a big plane twice and a helicopter once. I think I was close to having a heart attack on the copter. Thats why we're DRIVING to Oregon this year. with two kids no less......someone pray for me.

Baa baa black sheep, have I any mango jam?
"Yes ma'am, yes ma'am, three bags full!" (How do you store mango jam in a bag?)
"One for Lascivious Maximus, one for somebody else, but none for the little boy who cries in the lane."

Oh so sad.
I should answer questions in nursery rhymes more often. Especially whe they're as badly butchered as this one.



Dr Seuss rhyme = better. If people could just speak in rhyme more often, it'd be a better world. Just imagine if Hitler spoke like the cat in the hat? He'd be too jolly to start the second world war.

Do you like the jewish race?
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.

Would you like them on a boat, would you like them with a goat?
I do not like them on a boat, I would not like them with a goat!
I would not like them anywhere, anyhow, Sam I am.

Would you like them with a cow?

*continues off into the distance.*

Dr Seuss causes world peace.

Lets GET It Started...

CELEBRATION PARTY!!!

Opens the Tequila Box...pull 1 Bottle...mixes with the Mango juice.. :fluffle:


I'm not a big drinker but I'm a hell of a bartender. I can even flip bottles like Tom Cruise in Cocktail. Well...not really. I tend to break every other one. How bout I dont flip em? Neo.......what'll it be? :D

Baa baa black sheep, have I any mango jam?
"Yes ma'am, yes ma'am, three bags full!" (How do you store mango jam in a bag?)
"One for Lascivious Maximus, one for somebody else, but none for the little boy who cries in the lane."

Oh so sad.
I should answer questions in nursery rhymes more often. Especially whe they're as badly butchered as this one.
Yayayayaya!!! THANK YOU!!! :fluffle:

*devours mango jam, leaving a noticeably sticky rim around his lips, which he wipes away quickly with a napkin*

YUM! :D

I'm not a big drinker but I'm a hell of a bartender. I can even flip bottles like Tom Cruise in Cocktail. Well...not really. I tend to break every other one. How bout I dont flip em? Neo.......what'll it be? :D
while Neo is making up his mind...can I please have a xpresso with double Zambuka?

while Neo is making up his mind...can I please have a xpresso with double Zambuka?

coming right up.

*slides glass all the way down the bar without splling a drop*

coming right up.

*slides glass all the way down the bar without splling a drop*

*tastes* exelente!!! *put down a twnty....and savours the delicate italian flavour...*

while Neo is making up his mind...can I please have a xpresso with double Zambuka?

*hums a little tune*


just some orange juice will be fine for me, Peechland.

*hums a little tune*


just some orange juice will be fine for me, Peechland.


*pours tall cold glass of calcium enriched OJ*

here doll.....you have excellent taste in juice.

Can I get some peach juice? :D

(no really, note the spelling, peaches are one of my favorite fruits! I didn't want that to sound rude, but how else can I say it!?!?!?!?!?)

Neo.......what'll it be? :D
Hmm...
How 'bout a Swedish Polar Bear?

Can I get some peach juice? :D

(no really, note the spelling, peaches are one of my favorite fruits! I didn't want that to sound rude, but how else can I say it!?!?!?!?!?)


*looks at Lasc suspiciously*

mhm....I get that all the time in this place. But youre in luck. We just got a fresh shipment of Georgia Peaches in today, so give me a sec to peel them and squeeze some fresh for you. (couldnt have ordered a beer now could ya? ;) )

Hmm...
How 'bout a Swedish Polar Bear?


*shake shake shake*

with fresh cream no less.....only the best for the winner