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http://www.nickyee.com/hub/addiction/introduction.html

This goofball has a entire site dedicated to this topic.

My first question or rather statement is: no you are not addicted to online games like everquest of world of warcraft you fat slobs. You cannot be addicted to a video game. You may be a fat pig but your not addicted.

The same goes for "addictions" like gambling.

/rant off

This does not interest anyone? Perhaps I should have said:

1) JEssus SUX

2) JEssus will rule

3) THE USA sux

Actually, you can be addicted to anything. It may not be physically addictive, like cigarettes or heroin, but anything pleasurable can be psychologically addictive.

Actually, you can be addicted to anything. It may not be physically addictive, like cigarettes or heroin, but anything pleasurable can be psychologically addictive.


hmm i disagree with non - physical addiction, seems a little silly to me..

Actually, you can be addicted to anything. It may not be physically addictive, like cigarettes or heroin, but anything pleasurable can be psychologically addictive.

Agreed.

How can something that is NOt physically addictive be addictive?

Just stop doing it. :rolleyes:

It's pshycologically addictive...

How can something that is NOt physically addictive be addictive?

Just stop doing it. :rolleyes:

Have you ever met someone addicted to morphine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction

Read it, it probably explains better than I ever could.

'Many drugs or behaviors can precipitate a pattern of conditions recognized as addiction...'

Have you ever met someone addicted to morphine?

That's besides the point, I think that counts as physical addiction, which they're saying is valid, as opposed to psychological addiction which allegedly is not...

How can something that is NOt physically addictive be addictive?

Just stop doing it. :rolleyes:
That's the problem. You can't "just stop".
Did you know that cocaine isn't physically addictive? And yet it's very hard to quit. The problem is that repeated stimulus of the brain's pleasure and reward pathways can mess them up.

http://www.addictionscience.net/ASNprimer.html

Have you ever met someone addicted to morphine? <<<< ummmm :headbang:

That's besides the point, I think that counts as physical addiction, which they're saying is valid, as opposed to psychological addiction which allegedly is not...
Yeah, I'm fairly sure opiates are physically addictive.

That's the problem. You can't "just stop".
Did you know that cocaine isn't physically addictive? And yet it's very hard to quit. The problem is that repeated stimulus of the brain's pleasure and reward pathways can mess them up.

http://www.addictionscience.net/ASNprimer.html


One has to injest coke in order to get that high though.

You cant injest gambling or online games...

One has to injest coke in order to get that high though.

You cant injest gambling or online games...

Depends how you define ingest, games you ingest through the eyes and the brain!

Depends how you define ingest, games you ingest through the eyes and the brain!


Do you get physical withdrawls from not gambling or playing online games?
No, you dont get the runs, puking fevers etc etc etc.

You just wish you could gamble or play that game, so therefore its not even in the same realm as drug or booze addition.

Do you get physical withdrawls from not gambling or playing online games?
No, you dont get the runs, puking fevers etc etc etc.

You just wish you could gamble or play that game, so therefore its not even in the same realm as drug or booze addition.
Exactly! It doesn't do anything like make you sick, but it does make you want to do it moe often.

Indeed, I would say that psychological effects are just as important as physical ones - just because they're different doesnt mean they don't exist.

If you continue to perpetuate the myth of psychological addiction you will find more and more people who claim psychological addictions. It's a self fulfilling prophesy BECAUSE it is psychological.

And because you now are classifying "desire" as "addiction" wow, you can be addicted to anything. Yep, there is no personal choice or responsibility, just 6 billion "victims" of "psychological addictions."

Who are of course helpless to stop their 'addiction' because they can say, "hey, I'd stop but I'm addicted" as an excuse to not take things into their own hands.

Why should I want to stop gambling? It's a useless battle you see, I am ADDICTED and therefore just as helpless to control myself as a heroin addict suffering physical withdrawals!

For that matter, why stop at "psychological addiction", how about psychological withdrawals? Yes! It's not a DESIRE that I want to gamble, it's a WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOM. Someone, HELP ME. And GIVE ME MONEY.

How about we stop this culture of victimhood already and teach kids to read, instead of letting them get away with skipping school to get high on pharmaceuticals prescribed by the school shrink. Teach them responsibility for your own actions, instead of running to a psych to find out whats wrong with your brain today. Teach them that things are pleasurable without being necessarily good, and teach them to live well. But nooo. What we are teaching them instead is how to live a lifetime of dependency and blaming external causes for all bad things in their life.

If you continue to perpetuate the myth of psychological addiction you will find more and more people who claim psychological addictions. It's a self fulfilling prophesy BECAUSE it is psychological.

And because you now are classifying "desire" as "addiction" wow, you can be addicted to anything. Yep, there is no personal choice or responsibility, just 6 billion "victims" of "psychological addictions."

Who are of course helpless to stop their 'addiction' because they can say, "hey, I'd stop but I'm addicted" as an excuse to not take things into their own hands.

Why should I want to stop gambling? It's a useless battle you see, I am ADDICTED and therefore just as helpless to control myself as a heroin addict suffering physical withdrawals!

For that matter, why stop at "psychological addiction", how about psychological withdrawals? Yes! It's not a DESIRE that I want to gamble, it's a WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOM. Someone, HELP ME. And GIVE ME MONEY.

How about we stop this culture of victimhood already and teach kids to read, instead of letting them get away with skipping school to get high on pharmaceuticals prescribed by the school shrink. Teach them responsibility for your own actions, instead of running to a psych to find out whats wrong with your brain today. Teach them that things are pleasurable without being necessarily good, and teach them to live well. But nooo. What we are teaching them instead is how to live a lifetime of dependency and blaming external causes for all bad things in their life.

I totally agree, well put.

actually u can be addictited to it (just ask me :P :( )altho i would hafta say im addected to games in general i get irrtable when not playing or anxious to play or think about it :eek: :D :mp5: :sniper:

actually u can be addictited to it (just ask me :P :( )altho i would hafta say im addected to games in general i get irrtable when not playing or anxious to play or think about it :eek: :D :mp5: :sniper:

maybe you have A D D

Would you count uncontrollable shaking and constant fidgeting as physical withdrawal symptoms enough? (No i'm not ADD before you suggest it.) If your brain gets used to a certain stimulus or pleasure, it can be just as addictive as a drug.

Would you count uncontrollable shaking and constant fidgeting as physical withdrawal symptoms enough? (No i'm not ADD before you suggest it.) If your brain gets used to a certain stimulus or pleasure, it can be just as addictive as a drug.


well thats complete bullshit but i respect your opinion. :cool:

Might as well face it, you're addicted to love

That settles it. You can be addicted to non-physical things.

I would have to say that you have all missed a common non-physical addiction that you at some time may have or still have. It's just called something different. It also has very real withdrawl symptom. It's called Love. The addiction is to the mind of another person and unless you are some kind of very strange person who generates this love by ingesting said persons brain according to your definition of addiction this still counts.
Withdrawl can be seen in many people. Love sickness, depression, feeling the need to be with this person as much as possible. Please feel free to attempt to disassemble this arguement. In fact I challenge you to try!
:-)

maybe you have A D D
actually i think i do...
also some social anxeity thingy (which explains the games)
also i figit alot and bite my nails (dont worry their clean) when i dont get my "Fix" :P