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Chavs!

Rabola
22-02-2005, 18:54
What are chavs?

My definition:

-Ill educated

-Cheapskates (benefits because they can't be bothered...i do realise that benefits can be good for elderly, disabled)...

-Rude and offensive

-Criminal

-Tracksuit tucked into socks, burbury, baseball cap

-Council house paid for by benefits

So am I right, or am i wrong? Chavs, in my opinion can be good or bad. Mainly kids who dress as "chav", but they become like a pack of dogs.
What i think: "Thieving little Bas$%£s"
You Forgot Poland
22-02-2005, 18:57
I've never heard of a "chav" in my life. Is this something like a "shriv"?
Rabola
22-02-2005, 18:59
I've never heard of a "chav" in my life. Is this something like a "shriv"?
oh, i'l give u a site...so u can find out:

http://www.chavscum.co.uk/
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 19:05
Chavs kick ass!! I hope the UK is overrun with them in the coming years. Go Chavs!!!!
Rabola
22-02-2005, 19:08
Chavs kick ass!! I hope the UK is overrun with them in the coming years. Go Chavs!!!!
http://www.cecimoz.co.uk/flashpanel/Chavs2.htm

hope u hate them as much as i do, but if your american, you wont understand, like most things cough-vietnam-cough
General Mike
22-02-2005, 19:10
Chavs are scum and should all be shot.
Fimble loving peoples
22-02-2005, 19:10
What are chavs?

My definition:

-Ill educated

-Cheapskates (benefits because they can't be bothered...i do realise that benefits can be good for elderly, disabled)...

-Rude and offensive

-Criminal

-Tracksuit tucked into socks, burbury, baseball cap

-Council house paid for by benefits

So am I right, or am i wrong? Chavs, in my opinion can be good or bad. Mainly kids who dress as "chav", but they become like a pack of dogs.
What i think: "Thieving little Bas$%£s"

I'm offended. I live in a council house and my mother is on benefits simply because she can't get a job because of us kids. She is not lazy, she works harder than anyone else I know and actively searches for a job to do during school hours.

And I don't have a job simply because I am in full-time education. I have had part-time jobs and am searching for one. That doesn't make me a chav.
Rabola
22-02-2005, 19:11
http://www.cecimoz.co.uk/flashpanel/Chavs2.htm

hope u hate them as much as i do, but if your american, you wont understand, like most things cough-vietnam-cough
or

http://www.cecimoz.co.uk/

hit "flash animation" then "the Chavs 1"
Rabola
22-02-2005, 19:12
I'm offended. I live in a council house and my mother is on benefits simply because she can't get a job because of us kids. She is not lazy, she works harder than anyone else I know and actively searches for a job to do during school hours.

And I don't have a job simply because I am in full-time education. I have had part-time jobs and am searching for one. That doesn't make me a chav.
Soz, really
I know you proberly work as hard as u can, didnt mean to offend decent guys like u
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 19:13
http://www.cecimoz.co.uk/flashpanel/Chavs2.htm

hope u hate them as much as i do, but if your american, you wont understand, like most things cough-vietnam-cough
Nice animation, but what do chavs have to do with Vietnam? I happen to like chavs. (in theory, we don't have them in the USA) Ali G is supposed to be a chav, right? He's funny as hell.
Fimble loving peoples
22-02-2005, 19:14
Soz, really
I know you proberly work as hard as u can, didnt mean to offend decent guys like u

Nah. It's ok. I'm not actually offended. But the point does stand.
Aust
22-02-2005, 19:15
Up here we call Chavs townies, and though I don't like them, thats more to do with rivalry and living where I do than actual dislike. After all, I've got freinds who are townies.
Peechland
22-02-2005, 19:18
I dont get it. I clicked the site and still dont get it. Whats a chav?
Fimble loving peoples
22-02-2005, 19:19
Up here we call Chavs townies, and though I don't like them, thats more to do with rivalry and living where I do than actual dislike. After all, I've got freinds who are townies.

Same.

And most of the townies I know actually have jobs (Albeit in Maccy Dee's) to pay for their stuff.
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 19:20
I dont get it. I clicked the site and still dont get it. Whats a chav?
It's a guy who doesn't work, wears track suits, new sneakers, lots of bling and acts "gangsta".
Peechland
22-02-2005, 19:21
It's a guy who doesn't work, wears track suits, new sneakers, lots of bling and acts "gangsta".

Thanks J!
Rabola
22-02-2005, 19:21
It's a guy who doesn't work, wears track suits, new sneakers, lots of bling and acts "gangsta".
http://www.cecimoz.co.uk/
Rabola
22-02-2005, 19:33
Nice animation, but what do chavs have to do with Vietnam? I happen to like chavs. (in theory, we don't have them in the USA) Ali G is supposed to be a chav, right? He's funny as hell.
Chavs follow role models...in their world, celebrities
Troon
22-02-2005, 19:39
What a silly name. The CORRECT name, as everyone knows :rolleyes: is Neds.

It even stands for something! Non-educated Delinquents.

And they are scum, but can be occasionally entertaining. And they are funding most of this country with the taxes they pay on fags.
Jayastan
22-02-2005, 19:50
What are chavs?

My definition:

-Ill educated

-Cheapskates (benefits because they can't be bothered...i do realise that benefits can be good for elderly, disabled)...

-Rude and offensive

-Criminal

-Tracksuit tucked into socks, burbury, baseball cap

-Council house paid for by benefits

So am I right, or am i wrong? Chavs, in my opinion can be good or bad. Mainly kids who dress as "chav", but they become like a pack of dogs.
What i think: "Thieving little Bas$%£s"


For us in north america

chavs = WIGGERS

white guys wearing ball caps, track pants and bad gold plated chains.

Basically for everyone BUT wiggers, you want to pound the shat out of em.

ALI G is a good example, he does a good wigger. LOVE that show
Hoo-Doo
22-02-2005, 19:56
There was an article in the local newspaper about the police hailing an overall crime drop in the town (anti-social behaviour related, which I link to chavs)
In total, 85 anti-social warning letters were sent to parents, 44 home visits were made and 15 anti-social acceptable behaviour contracts were signed. Five letters were sent that anti-social proceedings were being taken and four ASBOs were granted.
A further one ASBO is still being pursued, 12 housing warning letters have been sent, two bikes were seized and 12 warnings given out to moped and goped owners.
Insp hartley said as well as the town centre, police had spent time sorting out problems on the Weston esate, Kineholme Drive, West Busk Lane and the Cambridge estate.I live on Kineholme Drive :(

Anyhoo, the graffiti around the town is not very art-like. And they dress like retards, and wonder why people laugh at them. Although not many people laugh at them because if they do they'll be pounced on by the chav and his/her 'crew'.

Go visit chavscum.co.uk (http://www.chavscum.co.uk) for more info.
DHomme
22-02-2005, 20:06
I hate the word 'chav'. We've been using the word 'townie' for years and then these twats from the newspapers start changing everything. I hate the bastards, they are dressed to try and give the impression of a gang to intimidate people and they keep trying to mug me (but havent succeeded as of yet)
Toujours-Rouge
22-02-2005, 20:08
Wasn't there a thread on this like... a day or two ago? :rolleyes:
I dislike people using the word for the same reasons i voiced on that thread.
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 20:14
Why am I the only person who voted in favor of Chavs? Surely there must be someone else here who sees their inherent entertainment potential.
Zombie Lagoon
22-02-2005, 20:17
I happen to have some close friends that are Chavs. If anyone had any sense of humour then you'd play along with them, they're pretty fun when you get to know them. I also hate the word Chav, everybody keeps saying it, and a few years back we didn't really distinguish between 'Chavs' and other people.
ProMonkians
22-02-2005, 20:18
Why am I the only person who voted in favor of Chavs? Surely there must be someone else here who sees their inherent entertainment potential.

Chavs are fun and entertaining.
Schlurven-Gypsy
22-02-2005, 20:29
Long before the Chav phase the word for people of a "chavish" disposition was a Kev, with the female equivalent being a Sharon. But maybe they were something completely different
New British Glory
22-02-2005, 20:36
Long before the Chav phase the word for people of a "chavish" disposition was a Kev, with the female equivalent being a Sharon. But maybe they were something completely different

No thats still what they call the runts in my area (West Midlands).

I understand their entertainment value but I would prefer not to have to put up with them at all.
South Osettia
22-02-2005, 20:40
Apparently Chav stands for:

Council House And Violence

A typical description of a chav; I should know. The place I come from is where the term first originated, Chatham.
Barkur
22-02-2005, 20:42
They're caled scallies in the north west, they're scum and are the only reason I would ever consider social engineering if I was in charge. :mp5:
World wide allies
22-02-2005, 20:49
Chavs are teh suckiest.

More and more seem to be in London .. it scares me ..
P-17
22-02-2005, 21:26
Ali G is supposed to be a chav, right? He's funny as hell.


Sacha Baron Cohen (AKA Ali G) isn't really a chav, he's an actor who does a good impersonation of chavkind. He's best when hes taking advatage of the people he is interviewing's unfamiliarity with chavs,as they don't no how to deal with them.
The best way to deal with chavs is hope they arn't going to mug you. (youth on youth crime being a problem in British cities)
Chavs are scum, and after seeing them do no good to society for the umpteenth time you begin to get tired of the funny side. Some of them are nice people. But they al have mates who arnt nice at all.
Zombie Lagoon
22-02-2005, 21:29
Ali G actually has a pretty posh 'normal' voice. When he isn't puttin on other voices.
Neo Cannen
22-02-2005, 21:44
I'm offended. I live in a council house and my mother is on benefits simply because she can't get a job because of us kids. She is not lazy, she works harder than anyone else I know and actively searches for a job to do during school hours.

And I don't have a job simply because I am in full-time education. I have had part-time jobs and am searching for one. That doesn't make me a chav.

Its people who are in the same economic situation as you and then turn to becoming offensive and crude and criminal. Hes not saying "all people on benefits and in council houses are chavs".
Dogburg
22-02-2005, 21:57
I always keep a hand on my wallet when a big group of kids in sportswear and burberry head my way. Innit.
You Forgot Poland
22-02-2005, 21:58
Is you shrivs still talking about chavs?
South Osettia
22-02-2005, 21:58
I always walk in the opposite direction. :D
Mondays Socks
22-02-2005, 22:04
ah don't hate chavs
they're great comic relief :p
Nadkor
22-02-2005, 22:10
spides!
Taldaan
22-02-2005, 22:39
If it wasn't for my hyperactive liberalism gland, I would recommend a comprosive with the fox hunters to legalise townie hunting. I would have them strung up by their "bling" (that word makes me shudder) from cranes, leave them for days, and then once they are suitably broken make them run in treadmills to provide environmentally friendly electricity for everyone else until they die. To put it quite simply, townies are scum. In my experience, slaughtering them would lower the frequency of the following crimes, in many cases by drastic amounts:

Assault
Vandalism
Mugging
Anti-social behaviour
Theft
Domestic abuse
Joyriding
Underage smoking
Others

Wiping out all of chavkind would make Britain a far safer place.

Also thanks to townies, culture is dying, soon to be dead. Our televisions and radios are flooded with talentless, repetitive rappers vying to see who can say "bling, innit" the most times in thirty seconds. Face it, rap isn't music, nor is it art (or at least not the kind that townies listen to). The music industry panders to them, swamping us with wave after wave of diluted, commercialised shit.

Townies, thanks to their stupidity, are also responsiblity for the reactive, violent politics and society. It is they who lash out at minority after minority, they who make others' lives a misery because they look vaguely like Osama bin Laden. I will not say that they are totally to blame for the situation, just that they contribute to it.

However, there are positive sides. Townies are funny. However, they could be just as funny locked up in zoos, where they can't attack random people in the streets, or attempt to destroy everything that is good about life. The other positive side? They allow me to broaden my vocabulary, using words which I would normally steer well clear of, due to the Nazi connotations: "Untermensch".

Well, that is probably the only subject that I will speak about like that. And that was my 500th post! Fear my increased deadlyness!
Neo-Anarchists
22-02-2005, 22:44
Face it, rap isn't music, nor is it art (or at least not the kind that townies listen to).
Main Entry: mu·sic
Pronunciation: 'myü-zik
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English musik, from Old French musique, from Latin musica, from Greek mousikE any art presided over by the Muses, especially music, from feminine of mousikos of the Muses, from Mousa Muse
1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony
2 a : an agreeable sound : EUPHONY <her voice was music to my ears> b : musical quality <the music of verse>
3 : a musical accompaniment <a play set to music>
4 : the score of a musical composition set down on paper
5 : a distinctive type or category of music <there is a music for everybody -- Eric Salzman>
Main Entry: 2art
Pronunciation: 'ärt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Latin art-, ars -- more at ARM
1 : skill acquired by experience, study, or observation <the art of making friends>
2 a : a branch of learning: (1) : one of the humanities (2) plural : LIBERAL ARTS b archaic : LEARNING, SCHOLARSHIP
3 : an occupation requiring knowledge or skill <the art of organ building>
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5 a archaic : a skillful plan b : the quality or state of being artful
6 : decorative or illustrative elements in printed matter
As much as I dislike rap, it is both art and music.
:(
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 22:45
OT: What's "anti-social behavior"? Is that a crime in England?
Whispering Legs
22-02-2005, 22:46
somehow the idea of a British person acting "gangsta" makes me ill
Nadkor
22-02-2005, 22:48
OT: What's "anti-social behavior"? Is that a crime in England?
i think so

what else are ASBOs for?
Taldaan
22-02-2005, 22:49
OT: What's "anti-social behavior"? Is that a crime in England?

Vandalism, noise pollution etc. It is a crime, according to the government, who issue anti-social behaviour orders (ASBOs: curfews and movement restrictions) to anyone breaking the admittedly hazy rules.
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 22:49
i think so

what else are ASBOs for?
ASBO?
Nadkor
22-02-2005, 22:51
ASBO?
Anti Social Behaviour Order

We dont get them here in Northern Ireland, but from what i can tell, basically they restrict peoples movement if they cause too much trouble in their community
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 22:51
Anti Social Behaviour Order

We dont get them here in Northern Ireland, but from what i can tell, basically they restrict peoples movement if they cause too much trouble in their community
Ok, thanks. What qualifies as anti-social behavior?
Anarchic Conceptions
22-02-2005, 22:52
Ok, thanks. What qualifies as anti-social behavior?

The Local Authority decides
Nadkor
22-02-2005, 22:53
Ok, thanks. What qualifies as anti-social behavior?
i have no idea
South Osettia
22-02-2005, 22:54
Ok, thanks. What qualifies as anti-social behavior?

Setting fire to sheep?
Anarchic Conceptions
22-02-2005, 22:56
Anti Social Behaviour Order

We dont get them here in Northern Ireland, but from what i can tell, basically they restrict peoples movement if they cause too much trouble in their community

Well there are a variety of things that can be done.

Banning an individual from certain areas/streets is the most common, but some more draconian Local Authorities have also banned individuals with saying certain words, from the vaguely understandable 'paki' to the downright bizarre 'grass.' A few have also tried name and shame tactics (posters with the person name and picture are put up in public places).

I also think they include curfews too.
Neo-Anarchists
22-02-2005, 23:06
some more draconian Local Authorities have also banned individuals with saying certain words, from the vaguely understandable 'paki' to the downright bizarre 'grass.'

Officer: "What are you doing outside at such an odd hour?"
Charles: "Umm, sir, it's noon."
Officer: "Just answer the question before I have to take you down to the station!"
Charles: "Well, sir, I just came out because it seemed like a nice sunny day to mow my grass and..."
Officer: "You said the G-Word! That's anti-social behaviour! You are under arrest!"
Charles: "But I only said "grass"!"
*gunshot followed by scream*
Officer: "Damn dirty criminals, think they can just go around saying the G-Word... Well I fixed him!"
Anarchic Conceptions
22-02-2005, 23:09
Officer: "What are you doing outside at such an odd hour?"
Charles: "Umm, sir, it's noon."
Officer: "Just answer the question before I have to take you down to the station!"
Charles: "Well, sir, I just came out because it seemed like a nice sunny day to mow my grass and..."
Officer: "You said the G-Word! That's anti-social behaviour! You are under arrest!"
Charles: "But I only said "grass"!"
*gunshot followed by scream*
Officer: "Damn dirty criminals, think they can just go around saying the G-Word... Well I fixed him!"

We don't have grass in Manchester ;)
Gataway_Driver
22-02-2005, 23:34
Anti Social Behaviour Order

We dont get them here in Northern Ireland, but from what i can tell, basically they restrict peoples movement if they cause too much trouble in their community

There was a case on NS not long ago where this teenager actually got an ASBO preventing him from being on his own council estate! What happened after I don't know but I'm sure he's fine :D :D
Pure Metal
22-02-2005, 23:47
my god chavs suck. if anyone is still unsure as to what chavs ('townies' in southampton lingo) are, or want to see a fucking brilliant case study of one... watch the videos here (http://www.fat-pie.com/chavs.htm)


Devvo is Darren Devonshire, a "chav" from the Doncaster/Hull area. Devvo lets me follow him around and film his life in exchange for cigarettes, alcohol and small change. I suppose the following films are just documentaries about the "chav" scene/problem in Northern England. Darren#1 (Darren Banks) is possibly spending a bit of time "inside" if you know what I mean (that's all I can legally say on here) so there won't be much more of him yet.....

The following videos contain offensive language, drug consumption, violence and generally shocking scenes of chav life...and remember; all I do is film him, I am not responsible for what he does.

watch Devvo (http://www.fat-pie.com/chavs.htm)
The White Hats
23-02-2005, 00:07
Now see, I'm an Essex boy, born and bred. Hell, my mum's from Romford! So I wear white socks, because I'm allowed; and if anyone points out that white socks with a business suit is a fashion faux-pas, I can make the witty rejoinder that I'm from Essex and do they want to make something of it.

Anyways, I now live in Kent, just down the road from Chatham, which has just been declared Chav Central for the UK. So my question is this: when wearing sport-casual to work, do I stay with the white socks or would they clash horribly? If the latter, what is my alternative?
Bastard-Squad
23-02-2005, 00:14
Here in the South, they are called Chavs and also Townies. I suppose North Americans wouldn't understand completely as these people only inhabit the UK. They're basically people who act like they are extremely tough by hanging around in large groups in alleys, outside McDonalds etc and attempt to intimidate passers by. They act tough in groups, but you almost never see them by themselves. You can never seem to get just a one on one fight with one of them, it seems if you provoke one they all try and kill you. I hate them, no one has supplied a valid reason yet as to why I shouldn't despise these people.

Chavs are not simply people who wear horrible sportswear, this is too general, it their actions that make Chavs what they are. I personally have no problem with people who wear these clothes, as long as they are not pricks, which the majority of the ones I have come into contact with are.

I guess no matter what these people are called, you could classify them all brand-worshipping celebrity-follwing assholes.
Spurland
23-02-2005, 00:20
Fookin chavs..
DanceDance
23-02-2005, 00:34
I have to say Chavs are entertaining. Not that I've met one; I'm American. But it's entertaining for us to think that British people can act gangtsa. Aren't we the ones who usually steal your music and styles? Ska for instance (although you already stole that from Jamaica). Go ahead and take rap if you want it, trust me I don't. Let the Chavvies wear their cheap gold jewlery and their digusting clown pendants, and their ::snicker:: plaid track suits. No skin off my back.
Naryna
23-02-2005, 00:42
Up here, they're known as scallies, and they really are a fucking plague, Eh. I liked that compromise with the hunters idea though, Innit...

Go Grebs!
James Ellis
23-02-2005, 19:28
I know them as Kevs (for the boys) or Shazzas (for the girls)... woe betide you if your name is Kevin or Sharon.

Bunch of arseholes.... we have a group of 'em who hang outside our house on the street corner. They throw stuff around, kick balls in the road, and beat each other up and swear a lot. "WHat you looking at, ya twat?" is a classic line.... obviously, the only correct answer is "not much, mate"
Naryna
23-02-2005, 19:34
I know them as Kevs (for the boys) or Shazzas (for the girls)... woe betide you if your name is Kevin or Sharon.

Bunch of arseholes.... we have a group of 'em who hang outside our house on the street corner. They throw stuff around, kick balls in the road, and beat each other up and swear a lot. "WHat you looking at, ya twat?" is a classic line.... obviously, the only correct answer is "not much, mate"

My prefered answer is "Dunno, but it's bloody ugly" Unfortunately there's usually too many of his little friends around to actually say that and expect to live... :(
The Tribes Of Longton
23-02-2005, 19:52
Ah, the mating call of the chavs:

"I'm gonna spark youse out if yer don't stop looking at me!! :mad: "

*David Attenborough voice*

The, male chav beats the crap out of the female, then mates in a very poor fashion before getting drunk and hitting a close relative, the 'normalus personus'
Peechland
23-02-2005, 20:12
Ah, the mating call of the chavs:

"I'm gonna spark youse out if yer don't stop looking at me!! :mad: "

*David Attenborough voice*

The, male chav beats the crap out of the female, then mates in a very poor fashion before getting drunk and hitting a close relative, the 'normalus personus'


LOL.....