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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/film_gay_animation

*sigh*

Amazing how much stupidity there is in the world, eh?

OMG, they need to get a life!

That explains why my eight year old son suddenly started wanting to deress like Barbie after watching Shrek 2 ;)

I really do wish they'd go back to spinning 80's music backwards.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/film_gay_animation

*sigh*

Amazing how much stupidity there is in the world, eh?
Change "the world" into "the USA" and you're right

Change "the world" into "the USA" and you're right

Nah, don't be nationist on this one. The world is pretty stupid, not just the USA

Remember back in the day when a guy in a dress was just hilarious, and not a political/sexual statement?

Those people have fantasies about Gay green ogres secretly. :)

seriously

how many kids do you know would know about that sort of stuff?

Ever notice how these groups never ever pay any attention to violence in kids' movies? Instead they focus on vague gay references that most children wouldn't understand anyway.

As for Shrek 2, I'm surprised they never mentioned the wolf... :)

Shrek 2 has plenty of company. Christian activists have also targeted SpongeBob SquarePants, Barney the dinosaur and Sesame Street's Bert & Ernie as children's characters who are conduits for a soft-on-gays message.

LOL nice silly people

As for Shrek 2, I'm surprised they never mentioned the wolf... :)

who? this guy?!?! (http://movie.goo.ne.jp/special/shrek2/img/wolf_1280.jpg) :D

Nah, don't be nationist on this one. The world is pretty stupid, not just the USA
If Dutch fundamentalist ever seek to get a movie like Shrek banned, then I will admit the world is stupid. Right now, it's just the USA

Bah! So they are so concerned about the wellfare of children ay? Then stop attacking @#$% cartoons and go out and lobby for more funding for Family and Childrens services so that they can help feed and clothe the kids. How bout advocacy for children who suffer from abuse?? No....the REAL problem lies in Shrek and Spongebob. :rolleyes:


*wants to get in a fight now*

If Dutch fundamentalist ever seek to get a movie like Shrek banned, then I will admit the world is stupid. Right now, it's just the USA

Maybe i missread the article, but i thought that the Christian fundamentalists were behind this not the entire US. :confused: Although we all know the Christian fundamentalists represent all of the opinions in the united states.

Maybe i missread the article, but i thought that the Christian fundamentalists were behind this not the entire US. :confused: Although we all know the Christian fundamentalists represent all of the opinions in the united states.
Very right, but the US (as a whole) lets them

Bah! So they are so concerned about the wellfare of children ay? Then stop attacking @#$% cartoons and go out and lobby for more funding for Family and Childrens services so that they can help feed and clothe the kids. How bout advocacy for children who suffer from abuse?? No....the REAL problem lies in Shrek and Spongebob. :rolleyes:


*wants to get in a fight now*

I'm in the mood for a fight too. Let's storm the owners of www.traditionalvalues.org and kick some ass.

Very right, but the US (as a whole) lets them

We let them because they have freedom of speech. These movies and television shows, however, never get banned. Hell, Shrek is a multi-billion dollar marketing industry in the US ... there's no way the US would ban it.

Before Allah, Jesus, Vishnu, and before every imaginable prophet, the US worships money, was founded on the principles of money, and seeks only to officially stop that which would prevent the free-flow of cash in the US.

Incidently, that's one of the reasons it sucks to be poor in the US. In poorer countries, it's not so bad cuz everyone else is poor. In the US, even though the vast majority is, in fact, poorer than many third-world country's citizens, poverty in the US comes with a stigma of "laziness" and "lack of ambition".

We need a good "eat the rich" uprising.

Very right, but the US (as a whole) lets them

hey! I dont!

:rolleyes:

Some people just get offended at anything.

Humor is shrek is much more geard to adult tastes anyway. most children would not notice the pop culture referances.

I'm in the mood for a fight too. Let's storm the owners of www.traditionalvalues.org and kick some ass.

*Looks at website*

... :(

Very right, but the US (as a whole) lets them

More like their superiority complex has them convinced that they have the right to speak for all of us and tell us how to live and they won't stop talking long enough for someone to prescribe medication.

Hey ... to all those generalizing the US and her citizens about this thing, let's try to remember who it was that first posted this thread .... hrmmm?

*coff*

Hello? *wave*

Very right, but the US (as a whole) lets them
Maybe I didn't express myself properly.

How the hell can this be news? Some lunatics (IMHO) trying to ban a friggin' funny cartoon? HOW CAN THIS BE IN THE NEWS?

Hey ... to all those generalizing the US and her citizens about this thing, let's try to remember who it was that first posted this thread .... hrmmm?

*coff*

Hello? *wave*

Waves back (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-030.gif) :D

The teletubbies also had this problem when they came to the US.

I'd like to see which programs the hyperreligious yanks think is good for children.

Hey ... to all those generalizing the US and her citizens about this thing, let's try to remember who it was that first posted this thread .... hrmmm?

*coff*

Hello? *wave*
quiet you

Maybe I didn't express myself properly.

How the hell can this be news? Some lunatics (IMHO) trying to ban a friggin' funny cartoon? HOW CAN THIS BE IN THE NEWS?

It HAS to be.
The only way that this type of attitude can be ridiculed out of existence is if people know about it. It would be much more worrying if we discovered that Shrek 2 had been banned after the fact due to silent lobbying.

Oh and by the way, it is not about Shrek 2 but, still in the news Dutch intolerance rising (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/08/07/1091732148054.html?from=storylhs&oneclick=true)
Stupidity is a human disease. No nation is free of it.

Very right, but the US (as a whole) lets them

Well now, George W. Bush lets them, and he has been appointing people left and right in high places that agree with him, so yeah, he is slowly converting America into an Anti-American... world. And I say world, because he believes he is in control of the world as of right now (hence the war in Iraq, and soon to be Iran, then North Korea, then Canada).

But after he is out of office, chances of getting a nut job as big as Bush again, is slim to none, so the country should return to normal soon after. Hopefully.

It HAS to be.
The only way that this type of attitude can be ridiculed out of existence is if people know about it. It would be much more worrying if we discovered that Shrek 2 had been banned after the fact due to silent lobbying.

Oh and by the way, it is not about Shrek 2 but, still in the news Dutch intolerance rising (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/08/07/1091732148054.html?from=storylhs&oneclick=true)
Stupidity is a human disease. No nation is free of it.


good point AB.....If they pulled Shrek off the shelves, I'd be like wtf??


YES.....I'd like to know what they think are "appropriate" cartons as well.


Hell Holia.....excellent nation name

I'd like to see which programs the hyperreligious yanks think is good for children.

Bibleman (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp), of course, and the Veggie Tales (http://www.bigidea.com/).

Other than that, they tie their kids to chairs and make them watch 24/7 Passion of the Christ.

It HAS to be.
The only way that this type of attitude can be ridiculed out of existence is if people know about it. It would be much more worrying if we discovered that Shrek 2 had been banned after the fact due to silent lobbying.

Oh and by the way, it is not about Shrek 2 but, still in the news Dutch intolerance rising (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/08/07/1091732148054.html?from=storylhs&oneclick=true)
Stupidity is a human disease. No nation is free of it.
I think that, if you let it get in the news, the number of supporters will increase greatly. People who just never thought about it. People who get persuaded by their arguments, even if slightly so. Ignore it. Silent lobbying happens either way.

Bibleman (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp), of course, and the Veggie Tales (http://www.bigidea.com/).

Other than that, they tie their kids to chairs and make them watch 24/7 Passion of the Christ.
which doesnt include any graphic and unnecessary violence

oh no

Bibleman (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp), of course, and the Veggie Tales (http://www.bigidea.com/).

Other than that, they tie their kids to chairs and make them watch 24/7 Passion of the Christ.


LOL.....is Bibleman a real show???

good grief!

Meh. We kinda discussed this sort of thing at "debriefing", where a bunch of us get together after church for lunch and discuss the sermon. We talked about the "crazies" and our frustration that we don't have any influence over them. It's also frustrating that the media gravitates toward these hyper-judgmental people, giving the impression that we're all like that.

I own a copy of Shrek and Shrek 2.

Very right, but the US (as a whole) lets them
Yeah. Damn that whole 'freedom of speech' thing. :rolleyes:

Bibleman (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp), of course, and the Veggie Tales (http://www.bigidea.com/).

Other than that, they tie their kids to chairs and make them watch 24/7 Passion of the Christ.

No way! Is this for real!?!

There is even a "biblegirl" and the bad guy is named "Wacky Protestor"! :D :D :D

Meh. We kinda discussed this sort of thing at "debriefing", where a bunch of us get together after church for lunch and discuss the sermon. We talked about the "crazies" and our frustration that we don't have any influence over them. It's also frustrating that the media gravitates toward these hyper-judgmental people, giving the impression that we're all like that.

I own a copy of Shrek and Shrek 2.


way to be a rebel!! you show 'em!

LOL.....is Bibleman a real show???

good grief!


:eek: Blatent copy of a lightsaber!!!!

Yeah. Damn that whole 'freedom of speech' thing. :rolleyes:
It's not about that. :rolleyes:

No way! Is this for real!?!

There is even a "biblegirl" and the bad guy is named "Wacky Protestor"! :D :D :D

Yep ... complete with spectacular battles against the flamboyant villains of Darkness!

I've actually seen this show. Bibleman is played by the guy who played Buddy on Charles in Charge.

George W. Bush lets them,.
Because he hasn't ordered the CIA to execute them, or passed an Executive Order suspending the First Amendment?*





*Neither of which he can legally do.

It's not about that. :rolleyes:
That's EXACTLY what it is.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/film_gay_animation

*sigh*

Amazing how much stupidity there is in the world, eh?

I thought he was a Muslim.

Maybe I didn't express myself properly.

How the hell can this be news? Some lunatics (IMHO) trying to ban a friggin' funny cartoon? HOW CAN THIS BE IN THE NEWS?
Too right. This is a group of 43000 ppl, out of 300 000 000. That's 0.014% of the US population. I'm sure you could find 43 000 ppl throughout the US who believe any sort of irrational thing. But that doesn't mean we should spend time and newsspace on reporting their opinions.
It's giving them an importance and legitimacy that they truly don't deserve. And will help keep them going, rather than just fading away into the insiginificant ether that they are.

Yep ... complete with spectacular battles against the flamboyant villains of Darkness!

I've actually seen this show. Bibleman is played by the guy who played Buddy on Charles in Charge.

So it's real! Then I simply MUST see this show! Wacky Protestor even builds a weapon called "neuroiconoclasticskeptisiser" ! I think I'm a fan allready!

Uhm...I don't know Charles in Charge. I don't think it was ever on over here.

How the hell can this be news? Some lunatics (IMHO) trying to ban a friggin' funny cartoon? HOW CAN THIS BE IN THE NEWS?
And precisely where in the news article does it say that they are trying to have it banned?

*swoons at Scott Baio* sigh.....I used to be in love with him.



and Buddy was on 8 is enough too. Willie Aimes is it? he was cute but he was a goober.

I thought he was a Muslim.

rofl!

and Buddy was on 8 is enough too. Willie Aimes is it? he was cute but he was a goober.


Yes! That's him .... Willie Aimes. I'm thinking we're aging ourselves ....

way to be a rebel!! you show 'em!

How am I being a rebel? By owning a movie that everyone I know, including every Christian I know, likes? By not listening to a few people I don't know and who don't represent any sort of Christian authority?

Meh. The media's lazy and stupid anyway.

Yes! That's him .... Willie Aimes. I'm thinking we're aging ourselves ....


Yeah we are so outted now.

*googles pics of Scott Baio* :fluffle:

How am I being a rebel? By owning a movie that everyone I know, including every Christian I know, likes? By not listening to a few people I don't know and who don't represent any sort of Christian authority?

Meh. The media's lazy and stupid anyway.


you have heard of sarcasm havent you? 4 out of 5 things i say are pure sarcasm. i was kidding.

Well, I figure from Shrek 2 that we live in the Kingdom of Far, Far Away, which means that Shrek is basically from the other side of the world, where people are green and ugly and we want to kill them on sight....

uh...

And precisely where in the news article does it say that they are trying to have it banned?
THAT IS NOT THE POINT! :rolleyes:

This is stupid.
Normally I don't go on religious threads because they never achieve anything, but this is just so stupid.
I'd just like to say that most Christians I know love Shrek and Shrek 2, and showed it in a local chapel to the kids.

THAT IS NOT THE POINT! :rolleyes:
Some lunatics (IMHO) trying to ban a friggin' funny cartoon?

Then why make things up?

Then why make things up?
Because I only half read the article and IT'S NOT THE GODDAMN POINT! MAKE YOURS!

This group is like internet televangelists. The opening statement "We're right, send us money". The first link "Donate".

Attacking cartoons is the latest "thing" among these groups. The music thing was already mentioned. Some of us older NS'ers remember the attacks on RPG's in the mid-eighties, and then the "poisonings" during Holoween.

And precisely where in the news article does it say that they are trying to have it banned?
That is their whole advocacy, get things they deem homosexual influences banned

Bah! So they are so concerned about the wellfare of children ay? Then stop attacking @#$% cartoons and go out and lobby for more funding for Family and Childrens services so that they can help feed and clothe the kids. How bout advocacy for children who suffer from abuse?? No....the REAL problem lies in Shrek and Spongebob. :rolleyes:


*wants to get in a fight now*

(Grabs shovel)

Yeeeaah boyee!

That's what I'm talking about. If they're so concerned about children, why don't they help deal with the thousands of children in this country without food, shelter or healthcare?

Bibleman (http://www.bibleman.com/bibleman/home.jsp), of course, and the Veggie Tales (http://www.bigidea.com/).

Other than that, they tie their kids to chairs and make them watch 24/7 Passion of the Christ.

Does anyone else find Bibleman really really camp?

I think my whole concern in all of this is just how they figure out cartoon characters and puppets can be gay. Is there a basement video of Bert suckin' off Ernie behind Hoopers? Did the bartender from Shrek 2 come hit on the guy's son who started this whole mess? Does Spongebob let Patrick give it to him up the poop-shoot?

I mean ... come on ... this kind of blatant and useless conjecture is stupid.

These same people will scream and cry and piss and moan if someone takes 1/2 a passage from the Bible and uses it to prove the Bible is evil, but they'll take 2 seconds from a 2 hour movie and use it as proof that something promotes a "homosexual agenda".

This sort of hypocrasy makes me want to vomit with rage.

Does anyone else find Bibleman really really camp?

Oh Bibleman is camp ... pure camp ... and is far more homoerotic than anything Disney has ever put out. That's why it rocks so much. :D

I think my whole concern in all of this is just how they figure out cartoon characters and puppets can be gay. Is there a basement video of Bert suckin' off Ernie behind Hoopers? Did the bartender from Shrek 2 come hit on the guy's son who started this whole mess? Does Spongebob let Patrick give it to him up the poop-shoot?

I mean ... come on ... this kind of blatant and useless conjecture is stupid.

These same people will scream and cry and piss and moan if someone takes 1/2 a passage from the Bible and uses it to prove the Bible is evil, but they'll take 2 seconds from a 2 hour movie and use it as proof that something promotes a "homosexual agenda".

This sort of hypocrasy makes me want to vomit with rage.


*nods*

*touches Keru with the notorious vomit stick*

have at it brother....

Because I only half read the article
Ah, so you have no idea what you're talking about. Why are you attempting to discuss something you obviously don't fully understand?

omfg even the old disney movies has that stuff in it ! give it i break already there just runng out thing to do

That is their whole advocacy, get things they deem homosexual influences banned
Did they ever call the the outlawing of Shrek 2? Spongebob Squarepants? Seasme Street?

I thought not.

Did they ever call the the outlawing of Shrek 2? Spongebob Squarepants? Seasme Street?

I thought not.

not yet my friend......not yet.

"Shrek 2 is billed as harmless entertainment but contains subtle sexual messages"

But is it billed as a childrens cartoon ? Oh -- my bad, sorry - every cartoon that is not hentai must *of course* be aimed primarily at children *cough* Simpsons *cough*South park*cough*.

Of course Shrek contains adult references. That is its main targetgroup. The same is true for almost every fairytale for that matter. Little Red Riding Hood is porn ;) . Childeren can enjoy those stories too, but will miss most of the humour and references.

One thing in the article that makes me thing the religious right isn't even watching the cartoons...

It's also been pointed out that he holds hands with a pink friend and gets boating lessons from a teacher called Mr. Puff


Spongebob's boating instructor was MRS. Puff.

The whole thing is terribly, terribly retarded though.

mmmm methinks that by suggesting everyone but them are gay says somthing ;)