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If you can answer this you're a genius.

Killer Queen
22-02-2005, 10:32
Ok bear with me here...

Say someone made a pair of glass which had a video camera in one of the lenses.

Say the camera was hooked up to your computer and automatically displayed what you were seeing.

If you were looking directly at your screen (turned on of course :D ) and it was supposed to be displaying what you are seeing...

What would you see on screen???? :confused:
Der Lieben
22-02-2005, 10:35
Feedback. Basically data, repeating to infinity. You can accomplish the same thing by hooking a video camera up to a TV and ointing the camera directly at the screen. Usually, the feedback looks like a flowing green or orange.
The Alma Mater
22-02-2005, 10:39
Without thinking: A computer screen displayin a computerscreen displaying a computerscreeen displaying a computerscreen etc.

The exact number of recursions displayed depends on the time you have been standing in front of the (real) screen, the distance between you and said screen, the speed of the electronics and the screens resolution. It will be completely filled well within in the second.

No let me see if this is a trick question...
Oksana
22-02-2005, 10:43
The inside of the camera?
Dragon Cows
22-02-2005, 10:44
similar effect to placing a microphone in front of the speaker it's connected to. data gets sent from the pickup device (mic/camera) to the output device(speaker/monitor) which is picked up by the pickup device which is sent to the output device etc... the result is a sound/image so unlike the original that it hurts to listen to/look at. the image would be a distorted mess of colour essentially
Killer Queen
22-02-2005, 10:45
Feedback. Basically data, repeating to infinity. You can accomplish the same thing by hooking a video camera up to a TV and ointing the camera directly at the screen. Usually, the feedback looks like a flowing green or orange.

Aaah ok..

But why???
Armed Bookworms
22-02-2005, 10:45
No that's right, unless you had the video in fullscreen mode in which case if you perfectly framed the computer screen without the edges of it you would just get a black screen.
Dragon Cows
22-02-2005, 10:50
i just tried this with my (crappy ass) webcam, and I basically got a tunnel of horribly distorted and strangely colored squares
Armed Bookworms
22-02-2005, 11:02
i just tried this with my (crappy ass) webcam, and I basically got a tunnel of horribly distorted and strangely colored squares
CRT or LCD screen?
Dragon Cows
22-02-2005, 11:15
CRT or LCD screen?
CRT
Dragon Cows
22-02-2005, 11:16
old crt
Armed Bookworms
22-02-2005, 11:28
Okay, that makes sense then. On an LCD you'd get a normal repeating image.
The Mycon
22-02-2005, 19:19
Feedback. Basically data, repeating to infinity. You can accomplish the same thing by hooking a video camera up to a TV and ointing the camera directly at the screen. Usually, the feedback looks like a flowing green or orange.
Not quite to infinity. Human eyes can handle about 30 images/second, most monitors are set up to display at 60 or 72Hz, and video cameras go pretty well everywhere from 20-80Hz commonly, usually at 60 (though in certain professions where exact precision is neccesary and they either have a huge budget or expect to only be filming a few seconds, it's often in the mid hundreds). in most cases, the processor speed of the camera/computer would limit it beyond that. But, if some severe technical issues were overridden (the blotches of colors metioned below, the soon-to-be-following resolution, vibration, and refraction difficulties, probably a few others), and the camera were set up so that it's not showing the screen of the monitor absolutely perfectly, it COULD, theoretically, have the beat-frequency of the eye-camera-monitor system.
You Forgot Poland
22-02-2005, 19:22
This would create the "infinity vortex" effect, which has a high probability of opening a gateway to hell. This is why all camcorders have a warning sticker that says "Do not point at television set."

Personal experience has led me to conclude that this is a very ineffective gateway to hell, seeing as how it's only TV-sized. All the good demons can only fit an arm or leg through my 13" screen. I've got a buddy with a big plasma screen though. I'll have more data on Friday night.
Andaluciae
22-02-2005, 19:25
We pointed video camera at a TV screen it was hooked up to and...I really don't remember what we got...maybe it was the demons...
James Ellis
23-02-2005, 19:23
I think I would see pure love.

Either that or it would open a mode of communication with the dead.
Der Lieben
23-02-2005, 19:47
Not quite to infinity. Human eyes can handle about 30 images/second, most monitors are set up to display at 60 or 72Hz, and video cameras go pretty well everywhere from 20-80Hz commonly, usually at 60 (though in certain professions where exact precision is neccesary and they either have a huge budget or expect to only be filming a few seconds, it's often in the mid hundreds). in most cases, the processor speed of the camera/computer would limit it beyond that. But, if some severe technical issues were overridden (the blotches of colors metioned below, the soon-to-be-following resolution, vibration, and refraction difficulties, probably a few others), and the camera were set up so that it's not showing the screen of the monitor absolutely perfectly, it COULD, theoretically, have the beat-frequency of the eye-camera-monitor system.

Yes, but the image will keep on repeating itself to infinity. It duplicates unbounded in other words. And the Human eye can detect more than 30 frames. I mean I can even tell when an fps drops below 60.
Bobs Own Pipe
23-02-2005, 19:51
Ok bear with me here...

Say someone made a pair of glass which had a video camera in one of the lenses.

Say the camera was hooked up to your computer and automatically displayed what you were seeing.

If you were looking directly at your screen (turned on of course :D ) and it was supposed to be displaying what you are seeing...

What would you see on screen???? :confused:

I've done this before with a camera and a monitor - it's like a house of mirrors, but the signal can get to be too much and the camera shuts off automatically...
Bastard-Squad
23-02-2005, 19:52
This would create the "infinity vortex" effect, which has a high probability of opening a gateway to hell. This is why all camcorders have a warning sticker that says "Do not point at television set."

Personal experience has led me to conclude that this is a very ineffective gateway to hell, seeing as how it's only TV-sized. All the good demons can only fit an arm or leg through my 13" screen. I've got a buddy with a big plasma screen though. I'll have more data on Friday night.

lmfao
Cressland
23-02-2005, 20:17
well, you would just see feedback, unless it were a particularly bad piece of technology, in which case, an empty computer screen
The Mycon
23-02-2005, 20:45
Yes, but the image will keep on repeating itself to infinity. It duplicates unbounded in other words. And the Human eye can detect more than 30 frames. I mean I can even tell when an fps drops below 60.Hmph. Test it. Or, if you can give me a more-than-anecdotal cite for human eyes seeing 60 Hz (which would mean Televisions wouldn't work, by the by), and explain why beat frequency exists, I'll do the math to prove it.


And, having googled to reveal that every Biologist's encyclopedia and university puts it between 24 and 36, but every videogame/monitor/video card manufacturer puts between 200 and infinity, no cites who stand to make a profit, please.
Jibea
23-02-2005, 20:51
Ok bear with me here...

Say someone made a pair of glass which had a video camera in one of the lenses.

Say the camera was hooked up to your computer and automatically displayed what you were seeing.

If you were looking directly at your screen (turned on of course :D ) and it was supposed to be displaying what you are seeing...

What would you see on screen???? :confused:

You would see light since you can only see light that is which you are seeing. If you are not seeing light then you are blind in our (human) sense
Jibea
23-02-2005, 20:55
Ill simplify my answer
You will see light since humans can only see light
but some (You know who you are) could hear color(colour for you british) such as Mozart
Shayde
23-02-2005, 21:01
dont forget the mirror in the mirror
Eutrusca
23-02-2005, 21:05
Ok bear with me here...

Say someone made a pair of glass which had a video camera in one of the lenses.

Say the camera was hooked up to your computer and automatically displayed what you were seeing.

If you were looking directly at your screen (turned on of course :D ) and it was supposed to be displaying what you are seeing...

What would you see on screen???? :confused:
An infinte regression of pics of you looking out of your computer.
Teh Cameron Clan
23-02-2005, 23:41
Feedback. Basically data, repeating to infinity. You can accomplish the same thing by hooking a video camera up to a TV and ointing the camera directly at the screen. Usually, the feedback looks like a flowing green or orange.
i did that once...it freakin blew my mind :D
also try puting 2 mirrors dirctly opposite of eachother (hafta be kinda big)
EmoBuddy
23-02-2005, 23:45
Someone do it and take a screenshot!
Neo-Anarchists
23-02-2005, 23:52
Feedback. Basically data, repeating to infinity. You can accomplish the same thing by hooking a video camera up to a TV and ointing the camera directly at the screen. Usually, the feedback looks like a flowing green or orange.
I love it when that happens!

In fact, if I can find the cable thingy for my camera, I'm going to do that now.
Jayastan
24-02-2005, 00:01
Ok bear with me here...

Say someone made a pair of glass which had a video camera in one of the lenses.

Say the camera was hooked up to your computer and automatically displayed what you were seeing.

If you were looking directly at your screen (turned on of course :D ) and it was supposed to be displaying what you are seeing...

What would you see on screen???? :confused:

The third plane, join us....