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Just had a conversation with my 8 year old son about this very subject. He was watching some show about an Alien crash in Pennsylvania in '65. (I know I need to supervise better what he watches) Just curious out of our huge audience here. Who amongst you have seen anything you just couldnt explain? Who believes and why? Even if you havent seen anything unexplainable I want to hear if you believe or not.

First I will say I have seen two very cool natural phenomenon. One was a Asteroid exploding in space. There was a report on it on tv the next day to explain it.
Also I actually witnessed a meteor crash into a lake. Which in itself was an once in a lifetime event.

earth plasmas are neat, expecially in daytime when they look like a silver cigar that speeds across the sky, i saw one once. it looked like a plane without wings

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What's wrong with watching alien crashes in 1967 Pennsylvania?

Well....dont; want to seem like a crazy...but i don;t think there is any avoiding it with what i about to say.

I was 9 and my dad bought me a telescope fro christmas. Christams night, we wend out into the field behind our proporty and gazed into the heavens. Low and behold. A strange flashign light darted across the horizon. And came back. Just to within my line of sight. and this all happened in a matter of seconds. It jsut hovered there...like it knew we were watching it. It cmae closer. It apperaed to be about 300 years away at this point. And after awhile, it staretd changing colors then disappeared. Never seen anything quite like it.

Another oddity that occurred was about 3 months ago. I coming home froma party out in the middle of nowhere. I see off in the distance, down long dark road some pulsating yellow lights. I figured it may be a stranded motorist, so i thought i may go take a look. I got there and as i got closer to the lights, my radio stareed acting weird. It was just randomlly chooseing stations. very odd.. then i thought i saw some sillohettes walk across the road. i kicked that thing in reverse and drove about 3 miles backwards. I couldn;t sleep for about 3 days after that.

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What's wrong with watching alien crashes in 1967 Pennsylvania?


Nothing wrong with watching this tv show. Although you have to remember that an 8 yr old is going to believe everything on this show. I had to explain in easy terms on what the show was about. I didnt want him to have nightmares of aliens coming to his room. Imagination is big when a child is only 8. Dont you remember?

Imagination is big when a child is only 8. Dont you remember?
Hehe, I always thought Darth Vader was hiding under my bed waiting to kill me...

Look at the name! :cool:

First I will say I have seen two very cool natural phenomenon. One was a Asteroid exploding in space. There was a report on it on tv the next day to explain it.
Also I actually witnessed a meteor crash into a lake. Which in itself was an once in a lifetime event.
You are one lucky guy. I don't know how you managed to witness both of those. The chances mst be incredibly slim. I don't know if there is a way you could figure them, but still they'd be incredibly small.

Nothing wrong with watching this tv show. Although you have to remember that an 8 yr old is going to believe everything on this show. I had to explain in easy terms on what the show was about. I didnt want him to have nightmares of aliens coming to his room. Imagination is big when a child is only 8. Dont you remember?

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. My parents let me watch this special on UFO’s when I was about 5 or 6, it completely freaked me out, and I couldn’t sleep for sometime...

I am open to the possibility that other intelligent life exists out there somewhere, I don’t believe that there is sufficient evidence to suggest that such life has ever visited earth or ever will. The distances involved would just be so unimaginably vast. On saying that, I don’t doubt that people see things, which are indeed strange and in every way qualify as ‘unidentified flying objects’. However, a majority of UFO sightings can easily be explained away as either natural or man-made phenomena. For instance, meteors and satellites are often mistaken. Even the planet Venus is a common one.

Of course there are things that cannot be as easily explained. But they only account for a very small percentage of sightings, and there probably still are logical explanations. I saw this interesting documentary on secret KGB documents released on UFO's... it turns out that the Russian government was deliberately misleading its citizens into believing that aliens were flying over. This was to cover up secret military operations and test flights. There is reason to suggest that the US government has pulled similar stunts.

This may/will make me sound like a nutter, but one night I saw three flashing lights in the sky. The lights were white, they did not flash in unison, there was a patern repeated and it couldn't have been a plane because it was stationary. There was no noise, and I know it couldn't have been just three random stars twinkling because there was a black void between them where stars should have been, plus there was the pattern of flashing. Obviously I don't know if it was aliens, but I heard on the radio later that week there was a company doing night blimp flights over the city that week, dinner and a show included. Perhaps it was a triangular black blimp? :)

how about this.

Has anyone seen

La Chupacabra

<.< ^.^ >.>
tell me if you do, he owes me a goat.

You are one lucky guy. I don't know how you managed to witness both of those. The chances mst be incredibly slim. I don't know if there is a way you could figure them, but still they'd be incredibly small.

Yeah. The brightest meteor I’ve ever seen was the brightness of Venus :(
I quite often see the faint ones through my telescope when I'm try to look at something else. Gee I'd love to see a meteorite strike... as long as it wasn't me.

Nothing wrong with watching this tv show. Although you have to remember that an 8 yr old is going to believe everything on this show. I had to explain in easy terms on what the show was about. I didnt want him to have nightmares of aliens coming to his room. Imagination is big when a child is only 8. Dont you remember?
I DO remember, since I was 8 only 7 years ago. I always watched X-Files and once Independence Day at my friend's house. Every once and awhile I'd freak out about aliens. Kinda funny in retrospect. Hehehe :D.

I have seen one UFO. Most likely it was some missle or something because I was in L.A. at the time. Edwards air force base is close by and they test new missles there. I believe there definitly are other space faring people somewhere, maybe even the next star, or underground hiding on venus and mars hahhaha. Who knows, next time I see a UFO I will try to hitch a ride. (Cake to all who get this.)

how about this.

Has anyone seen

La Chupacabra

<.< ^.^ >.>
tell me if you do, he owes me a goat.

The goat sucker! No I haven’t seen it, don’t think they travel to New Zealand. But read a lot about it. Probably bats account for most of those dead animals.

I have seen one UFO. Most likely it was some missle or something because I was in L.A. at the time. Edwards air force base is close by and they test new missles there. I believe there definitly are other space faring people somewhere, maybe even the next star, or underground hiding on venus and mars hahhaha. Who knows, next time I see a UFO I will try to hitch a ride. (Cake to all who get this.)
OH OH, I KNOW!!! Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, by Douglas Adams. One of the greatest books ever written. Now, let's get down to business: a) are you as excited about the movie as I am; and b) when do i get my cake?

This may/will make me sound like a nutter, but one night I saw three flashing lights in the sky. The lights were white, they did not flash in unison, there was a patern repeated and it couldn't have been a plane because it was stationary. There was no noise, and I know it couldn't have been just three random stars twinkling because there was a black void between them where stars should have been, plus there was the pattern of flashing. Obviously I don't know if it was aliens, but I heard on the radio later that week there was a company doing night blimp flights over the city that week, dinner and a show included. Perhaps it was a triangular black blimp? :)

Yeah. I'm sure it was the blimp. Though I can't explain Autocraticama's sightings, the last one he mentions could have been a bright star or planet. If only it weren't for the radio... which could have been unrelated?

added: I've seen strange stuff myself. I once saw what looked like two satellites following each other closely in the sky, only one of them shot back and forth once before disappearing. An older friend of mine once saw a full moon-sized black disc like object pass overhead, covering up stars in its path. He's quite an experienced amateur astronomer so I find no reason to disbelieve him. He thinks it was likely a bat... but still, very strange.

Yeah. I'm sure it was the blimp. Though I can't explain Autocraticama's sightings, the last one he mentions could have been a bright star or planet. If only it weren't for the radio... which could have been unrelated?

Second one was flashing lights on the ground. At the end of a dark road, and small humanoid shillouettes in the distance. very odd, could have been children, or....the melon heads....

Oh. Well even if you did see figures, they could have been unrelated. What time of night was it? More importantly… are you serious?

Oh. Well even if you did see figures, they could have been unrelated. What time of night was it? More importantly… are you serious?

serious as a heart attack, and it was about 2 in the morning.

This is considered one of the most convincing UFO sightings ever [though I'm a bit biased]…

SOURCE: AP AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND
DATE: 02 JANUARY 1979 - SIGHTING DATE 21 DECEMBER 1978
A television news team from Melbourne, Australia says it filmed a UFO on Saturday night while flying over the Kaikoura region of New Zealand's South Island. Aviation authorities reported that the UFO was apparently tracked by radar as well, and the Royal New Zealand Air Force put a Skyhawk jet fighter on special standby alert.
The pilot of the news team's plane said he first noticed a bright white light about 20 miles ahead, and "It appeared to stay still until we got within 10 miles, then it turned with us as I changed course. It then went above us and circled and came down beneath us. It was making definite movements in relation to us."

I’ve seen the footage. If it weren’t for the fact that the objects were detected on radar, you could easily right them off as the planet Jupiter or light reflections from Japanese trawlers.

You are one lucky guy. I don't know how you managed to witness both of those. The chances mst be incredibly slim. I don't know if there is a way you could figure them, but still they'd be incredibly small.


Yeah I checked Nasa awhile back. Odds of seeing a meteor impact is one in two million. Odds on the explosion in space is far less. Seen frequently according to the news report. Although still cool!

serious as a heart attack, and it was about 2 in the morning.

Hmm… and you actually saw it on the road? How far away was it? I say it could have been a star/planet because sometimes when you’re driving (obviously depending on the road and surroundings) at night something low and bright in the sky can appear strange.

*Shrug.*

Hmm… and you actually saw it on the road? How far away was it? I say it could have been a star/planet because sometimes when you’re driving (obviously depending on the road and surroundings) at night something low and bright in the sky can appear strange.

*Shrug.*

possible, it seemed to be about 2 miles up the road. It was out in the middle of a swamp as well, so it may have been locals, but it still doesn;t explain my radio freakin out.

possible, it seemed to be about 2 miles up the road. It was out in the middle of a swamp as well, so it may have been locals, but it still doesn;t explain my radio freakin out.

Propagation perhaps. What were you listening to? AM, FM, or what?

This is considered one of the most convincing UFO sightings ever [though I'm a bit biased]…

I’ve seen the footage. If it weren’t for the fact that the objects were detected on radar, you could easily right them off as the planet Jupiter or light reflections from Japanese trawlers.
The other really convincing story I've heard to make the case for UFO's is Bob Lazar (sp?), teh guy who claims to have worked for 6 months at Area 51, and was helping to reverse-engineer an alien spacecraft. I saw a History Channel thing on him. There are a few supposed "glitches" in his story, so I'm not sure to believe him or not. But I do believe that our planet has at least once, most likely more, been visited by extraterrestrial beings. That's just me though.

104.9 FM Rock station. The tower was about 5 mmiles from where i was at the time.

The other really convincing story I've heard to make the case for UFO's is Bob Lazar (sp?), teh guy who claims to have worked for 6 months at Area 51, and was helping to reverse-engineer an alien spacecraft. I saw a History Channel thing on him. There are a few supposed "glitches" in his story, so I'm not sure to believe him or not. But I do believe that our planet has at least once, most likely more, been visited by extraterrestrial beings. That's just me though.

Yeah. I also find the late Scott Carpenter convincing. He was one of the original Mercury 7 (astronauts). Believed in a government cover-up and was quite outspoken on the subject, he even claimed that when he served in the airforce he was part of a unit dispatched to go and investigate this strange object. His superiors told them all to forget it and that it was nothing serious.

The UFO crash Marrakech II was talking about is also quite interesting.

104.9 FM Rock station. The tower was about 5 mmiles from where i was at the time.

Well there could be any number of possibilities.

Technical difficulties with the tower?

Radio signals bounce and can be blocked, it depends a lot on the terrain, surroundings etc. ...

You could have unknowingly knocked the dial if the bright-object or figures startled you suddenly.

Well there could be any number of possibilities.

Technical difficulties with the tower?

Radio signals bounce and can be blocked, it depends a lot on the terrain, surroundings etc. ...

You could have unknowingly knocked the dial if the bright-object or figures startled you suddenly.

There is alot of military equipment that can mess up a radio. Also a person can buy jammers to specifically jam any type of radio wave. ie Cell phones, Airborne tv signal, radios. Just a thought

If anyone is old enough to remember the lunar landings. You may remember that Armstrong said on live tv "You see that? What the hell is that?....sssssss
They cut the transmission. After that all transmissions were delayed so that NASA could censore them. Anyone else remember this. Let me know.

There is alot of military equipment that can mess up a radio. Also a person can buy jammers to specifically jam any type of radio wave. ie Cell phones, Airborne tv signal, radios. Just a thought

True.

I have been anally probed hundreds of times.

If anyone is old enough to remember the lunar landings. You may remember that Armstrong said on live tv "You see that? What the hell is that?....sssssss
They cut the transmission. After that all transmissions were delayed so that NASA could censore them. Anyone else remember this. Let me know.

I was in grade school when that happen, asked my teacher about it and was told they were just playing, of course i didnt buy that, besides there is a lot of space out there and for us to be the only ones here is silly, of course there are others out there and also those that came but never made it up the ladder far and those that are beyond us as well, I truely belive the government knows but doesnt tells us because thats how big bother protects us.....of course they can kiss my #&%
But then thats just my thoughts on the matter

I have been anally probed hundreds of times.

I suppose by a unidentifed flying object? Figure the odds of not just once, but hundreds of times. This didnt happen around San Francisco did it? Because I have heard of this alot from the Bay area. Very odd story my friend, very odd...

If anyone is old enough to remember the lunar landings. You may remember that Armstrong said on live tv "You see that? What the hell is that?....sssssss
They cut the transmission. After that all transmissions were delayed so that NASA could censore them. Anyone else remember this. Let me know.

Wow. I didn't even know that happened.

I truely belive the government knows but doesnt tells us because thats how big bother protects us.....of course they can kiss my #&%
But then thats just my thoughts on the matter


Yeah I think the government does hide things from us so we dont freak out. Although most of us would say I told you so. Still can you imagine all the religious zealots claiming that they were either jesus coming to earth. Better yet demons! Imagine the chaos.... Actually I might want to see that! :p

Yeah I think the government does hide things from us so we dont freak out. Although most of us would say I told you so. Still can you imagine all the religious zealots claiming that they were either jesus coming to earth. Better yet demons! Imagine the chaos.... Actually I might want to see that! :p

Yeah you can always count on uncle sam to do what they think is best for us and then take more of our freesoms away for what ever reason they want and i would love to see them aliens come back, to see jesus coming out of the clouds on his wings of fire and when he got out of his ship he would say " Live Long And Prosper"

Hmmm… during the Apollo 11 mission amateur astronomers here on earth reported seeing bright lights on the moon’s surface. Maybe that’s related? I read that NASA instructed the astronauts to keep an eye out, and come to think of it.

EDIT: Actually, I've read further into it, and Aldrin has said that they did see a crater lit up.

I've seen a couple but I'm not allowed to talk about it. Due to US National Security Act.

Yes I believe that our planet has been and is being visited by beings from another world but I do not believe that they pose any signifigant threat at this point in time.

"I want you to find the answers to two questions for me. One, who killed JFK. And, Two, are there UFOs?" Bill Clinton to Webster Hubbell

"If we were being attacked by space aliens we wouldn't be playing these kinds of games," - Bill Clinton

I've seen a couple but I'm not allowed to talk about it. Due to US National Security Act.

lol?

Yes I believe that our planet has been and is being visited by beings from another world but I do not believe that they pose any signifigant threat at this point in time.
Correct. They are using this time to study our defenses and find our weaknesses. For years, they've been watching with envy. Dark envy.
Their time is coming. They will come. They are watching. They are monitoring.
THEY know that I know. THEY are watching you. To THEM you are a delicacy.
They are a representation of evil incarnate and when they come, it will be to support the Anti-Christ.
Know that you have been warned.

Jimmy Carter's sighting

The form was filed with NICAP on Sep. 18, 1973.

Carter's responses are in quotation marks.

1. Name: "Jimmy Carter"
Address: "State Capitol Atlanta"
Occupation: "Governor"

2. Date of Observation: "October 1969"

3. Location of Observation: "Leary, Georgia"

4. How long did you see the object?: "10-12 minutes."

5. Please describe weather conditions and the type of sky; i.e., bright daylight, nighttime, dusk, etc.: "Shortly after dark."

6. Position of the Sun or Moon in relation to the object and to you: "Not in sight."

7. If seen at night, twilight, or dawn, were the stars or moon visible?: "Stars."

8. Were there more than one object?: "No."

10. Was the object(s) brighter than the background of the sky?: "Yes."

11. If so, compare the brightness with the Sun, Moon, headlights, etc.:
"At one time, as bright as the moon."

12. Did the object(s)-:
a. Appear to stand still at any time?: "Yes."
g. Change brightness?: "Yes."
h. Change shape?: "Yes."
I. Change color?: "Yes."

13. Did object(s) at any time pass in front of, or behind of anything?
If so, Please elaborate giving distance, size, etc, if possible.: "No."

14. Was there any wind?: "No."

15. Did you observe the object(s) through an optical instrument or
other aid, windshield, window pane, storm window, screening, etc.?
What?: "No."

17. Please tell if the object(s) was (were)- c. Sharply outlined: "Yes."

18. Was the object- b. Self-luminous?: "Yes."

19. Did the object)s_ rise or fall while in motion?: "Came close, moved away, came close and then moved away."

20. ..Or, if easier, give apparent size in inches on a ruler held at arm's length: "About the same as moon, maybe a little smaller. Varied from brighter/larger than planet to apparent size of moon."

21. How did you happen to notice the object(s)?: "10-12 men all
watched it. Brightness attracted us."

22. Where were you and what were you doing at the time?: "Outdoors
waiting for a meeting to begin at 7:30 pm."

23. How did the object(s) disappear from view?: "Moved to distance
then disappeared."

26. Please estimate the distance of the object(s): "Difficult. Maybe
300-1000 yards."

27. What was the elevation of the object(s) in the sky?: "About 30 degrees above horizon."

28. Names and addresses of other witnesses, if any: "Ten members of
Leary Georgia Lions Club."


31. Please draw a map of the locality of the observation showing North; your position; the direction from which the object(s) appeared and disappeared from view; the direction of its course over the area; roads, towns, villages, railroads, and other landmarks within a mile.: "Appeared from west about 30 degrees
up."

32. Is there an airport, military, governmental, or research
installation in the area?: "No."

- http://www.skywatch-international.org/special_reports/quotes.html

Aliens have to exist as space is to big for only humans to live we are one planet out of trillions of unknown ones

Aliens must exist for something to spark all this and all the coverups something must have started it all way back when

Well anyway did anyone watch The Macpherson Tape???

At the begining is claims its a true story but at the end the aliens are credited as a male and a female i forgot their names

but this might have been consorship to protect us

oh yeah by the way if you looking for more info on aliens and cover-ups go here http://www.abovetopsecret.com yeah you might all think its a bunch of losers getting together to talk about crap but its not most of it makes sense and they have a lot of interviews with government officers and high-ups

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/Rabek/UFO.jpg



If they aren't real, explain THAT!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I BELIEVE but that picture is easy to fake

It's all in statistics... We think we're so smart with our technology and religion but it's all BS if you look at the bigger picture. There are about 200 billion stars with planets in our Galaxy (Galaxy... so not universe.. just galaxy) so that means well.. a shitload of stars with planets in the Universe.

It's just retarted to even think that intelligent life is only possible on this shitheap we call home.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/Rabek/UFO.jpg



If they aren't real, explain THAT!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Looks like the Goodyear Blimp!

I'm open to the theory, but I don't bealive everything. Also, if there is other intellegent lifeforms, I don't think they'd attack us.

I'm open to the theory, but I don't bealive everything. Also, if there is other intellegent lifeforms, I don't think they'd attack us.


Well if they wanted to attack us. They probably would have already done it. Im sure we are a stop on the oddity world tour. I bet were very interesting to look at from another civilizations point of view.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/Rabek/UFO.jpg



If they aren't real, explain THAT!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Isnt that the house from "Brady Bunch"?! Was Alice an Alien?!!! Anyway pics can be faked so easily. Thats why its extremely difficult to tell what your looking at. Although if you remember the mexican ufo invasion footage from about 10 years ago. Now those were difficult to explain. Since there were from so many different angles and different video.

Well....dont; want to seem like a crazy...but i don;t think there is any avoiding it with what i about to say.

I was 9 and my dad bought me a telescope fro christmas. Christams night, we wend out into the field behind our proporty and gazed into the heavens. Low and behold. A strange flashign light darted across the horizon. And came back. Just to within my line of sight. and this all happened in a matter of seconds. It jsut hovered there...like it knew we were watching it. It cmae closer. It apperaed to be about 300 years away at this point. And after awhile, it staretd changing colors then disappeared. Never seen anything quite like it.

Another oddity that occurred was about 3 months ago. I coming home froma party out in the middle of nowhere. I see off in the distance, down long dark road some pulsating yellow lights. I figured it may be a stranded motorist, so i thought i may go take a look. I got there and as i got closer to the lights, my radio stareed acting weird. It was just randomlly chooseing stations. very odd.. then i thought i saw some sillohettes walk across the road. i kicked that thing in reverse and drove about 3 miles backwards. I couldn;t sleep for about 3 days after that.

yea that would freak the hell outa me too... did u have any "special browinies" that that party by chance :P...

When I was 13 years old I was out at my grandparents house I had an encounter of sorts I guess you could call it. They live on a farm, several hundred, probably over 1,000 acres, I loved to hunt sparrows with my BB gun at that time, I was allowed to use the .22 but I prefered going for sparrows with the BB gun, much safer. They live on a hill overlooking the Sioux River, a large part of their land is steep valley, wooded areas. It was somewhat late when I went out this time, about 7:00 pm, already it was starting to get dark, but I figured I had about an hour of good light and went out. I took my BB gun and my grandparent's dog with me, a three year old black lab. I usually stayed close to the house, rarely venturing further than a quarter mile from the house, if even that, but today I felt extra adventurous, I started to head through the field and towards the river. After I had shot about 3 birds (in probably 100 attempts) I decided to call it a night, instead of walking along the road my grandpa always drove down I decided to stay in the trees, it is not hard to get out of their, just so long as you are walking up hill you are going in the right direction. It was almost dark when I started to near the house, I still had to walk past the machine shop, barn, woodshop, and through the windbreak, but I was not worried about anything out of the ordinary happening. As I was nearing the windbreak I heard what sounded like a young dear, when you hear this sound for the first time and it is getting dark it can be quite the scarey sound, I immediately froze midstep. After a couple of minutes I thought I figured out what had made that noise, I assumed it was a rabbit or dear, unfortunately for me, the area that this sound came from was between me and the house, I slowly started to walk towards the sound, I failed to realize that the hair on the dog's back was standing on and that she seemed apprehensive about something. As I started to get nearer I heard this bearly audible sound, almost like a cat meowing, slowly I got closer to where this sound came from, and by now it was almost pitch black, the only light I had was a red light on the zipper of my coat that could barely penetrate three feet of air so I didn't bother getting that out. Then the sound suddenly stopped, by now I figured I was about 30 feet from where the sound originated, when the sound stopped I stopped also, it was at this time I noticed that the dog was growling and seemed very scared. There! I saw something move, only a couple of inches to the side but it was enough, I raised the BB gun, the only weapon I had, and fired a shot in the direction of the movement. Thud. I heard it hit a tree. Must have been the wind blowing the leaves I thought to myself, now feeling assured that nothing was there I started walking forward normally, then I heard the sound again, and it was damn close. Without even thinking I picked up a rock slightly larger than a baseball and threw it as hard as I could in the direction of the sound, Thunk, this time it did not hit a tree. Suddenly I heard this loud screech again, seconds later I threw another smaller rock in the direction, once again, Thunk Screech, except this time suddenly large started moving, not towards my but perpendicular, really scared this time I grabbed one more rock, threw it and thunk. Not something large was running, not towards me but away, towards the highway and fast, I heard branches snapping, then the dog took off after this thing. Worried about the dog I too took off, chased down the dog and tackled her. Finally home free I grabbed the dog's collar and started running towards the house. After busting in the clear of my grandparents lawn I stopped to catch my breath thinking I was safe, the outdoor lights were on, very bright, lit up the whole lawn, as I stood there I looked back and saw the scariest thing I have ever seen, two large red eye's were staring straight at me, they were moving up and down, almost as if whatever they belonged to was panting after a long run, I was frozen stiff, but these eye's did not move, they just stood there watching me, finally after what seemed like hours I started to slowly back away, these eye's seemed to blink and that was when I took of running, I made it to the house in only a few seconds, flew the door open, jumped inside shut the door and locked the dead bolt.

This was not the first time I had seen something weird at my grandparents, but it was the scariest. A few times before I had seen some sort of odd shadow's but always assumed those were deer or coyotes running around, never before or since have I experienced anything like this. I haven't told many people about this either, I no longer have nightmares about this, but occasionally I will get a cold sweat when I am outside during the night at my grandparents house.

Then two years ago I was at my aunt and uncle's lake cabin, sitting around the fire pit talking to their neighbor, oddly enough we were talking about Roswell and alien encounters, even though he is on the other side of 40 he is certain that we will make first contact with an alien species during his life time. This was my third night in northern Minnesota, the air is so clear there you can see satellites in orbit quite easily, we were following these satellites across the sky they all seemed to move in the same direction at the same speed, then a much larger, brighter, slower moving object appeared to our right, well over the lake we watched this object for several minutes, then suddenly it disppeared, not like it went behind an object or went over the horizon, but it just disappeared.

Its amazing when you ask people about stuff like this. The stories come out of the woodwork. Wish it was more publicly discussed.

*bump* Want to hear more stories.....

I'll share mine later. I have a few first hand experiences and a trippy second hand experience too!
I think that there is bound to be some intelligent life out there somewhere and dont doubt that they could find the earth if they ahd advanced interstellar travel equipment.

I've had some experiences that I would consider to be 'paranormal' but nothing that deals with UFOs.

Mostly, I believe the UFOs we see are new air-crafts that the Air Force has and they're being tested (although I won't rule out anyone's story or theory). I guess you could tell your son this and explain to him why we can't let other countries know we have new planes. Tell him our stealth bombers were often mistaken for UFOs until they were reveled to the public. If I were you, I would preview some other UFO videos that tell all theories (except the ultra-scary ones) and sit down and watch it with him. Explain to him then about how big space is and how hyper-novas would prevent life on other worlds to get to the point where they would have such technology to actually visit the Earth from their world. I see nothing wrong with letting him explore this a bit; if anything, it might get him interested in history and/or science (maybe even science fiction). Heck, you could even throw in some sci-fi shows and explain how theories of aliens have been around for years and why the media might focus on these "UFOs."

UFO'S exist that isn't in question, there have been hundreds of thousands of Unidentified Flying Objects at all times in recorded human history, the question which should be asked is what is responsible for these abnomolies?. Even the most hardened skeptic must concede that many of the Abduction Reports and UFO Sightings can not be simply dismissed as figments of the imagination or weather balloons.

With so many other planets in our universe, it would take a very narrow minded person indeed to believe that we are the only life form that exists. It would also be arrogant to assume that just because humans are the dominant life force on this planet, we would be superior to any "alien" life from another planet.

I actually believe that humans are no more than Laboratory rats for a number of different alien races and it is our limited intelligence (compared to the aliens) that blind us from these facts. Humans obviously judge a situation based on their current level of knowledge and find it almost impossible to imagine an alien force that has advanced level spacecrafts or perhaps the ability to communicate without speech.

But what makes some people choose to dismiss all reports of aliens as pure imagination and stories invented by crazy people? Sure, many reports can be eliminated as doubtful and some photos of UFO's can be faked. But not all reports can be explained away this easily and why would so many people make up such stories? They can't all be crazy!

Could it be that a persons religion and their views on God conflict with the possibility of intelligent alien life? Are some people just afraid to know the truth? Are some people aware of aliens but choose to conceal these facts?

Many skeptics believe that sightings of UFO's have increased since the media started reporting these events, or because of Sci-Fi films and television shows that have been produced since. This may be true to a certain extent, but then perhaps people are more aware of their existence now?

UFO reports go back as far as 1504 BC, even many of the Biblical stories could be referring to UFO's. At the parting of the Sea, was a "cloud" not seen hovering above? And were there not reports of another "cloud" seen hovering over the tabernacle, that contained the commandments, and reports of light and unspoken voices? (and possible radiation affects on the skin of those who came in contact with this cloud).

Many American pilots during The Second World War reported seeing "luminous discs" (also called "foo fighters") following alongside their aircraft.

Following a large number of UFO sightings in 1947 the USAF began Project Blue Book (this was originally called Project Sign, changed to Project Grudge and finally called Project Blue Book). The USAF investigated some 12,618 sightings in approximately 22 years before the project was terminated on December the 17th 1969. The decision to terminate this report was based on an evaluation of a report prepared by the University of Colorado entitled, Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects, more commonly referred to as the "Condon Report".

Many of the investigations carried out by the USAF dismissed a large proportion of the reports saying that the sightings were aircraft, weather balloons and even the moon as it was setting. However, some of the reports could not be explained and were "unsolved". Yet despite this, the report was still terminated. It seems a little strange that such investigations were cancelled when their was no conclusive evidence that UFO's did not (or could not) exist. Surely even a small doubt about their existence should have been sufficient to continue this report?

But what of Abductions? Are Aliens just curious to see how we are getting on? I think not. There is a growing opinion that the Aliens motives are more sinister and many reports by abductees seem to support this. Many, as ia already known, refer to physical examinations where experiments are conducted. Samples are taken and fluids and objects are inserted. Some abductees experience considerable pain during these examinations and often discover marks on their bodies afterwards (single and multiple punctures, large bruises, 3 and 4 fingered claw marks and various triangles).

Aliens seem to have the ability to alter our perception of our surroundings and can make us see them in different forms (sometimes as someone we knew). Reports of their appearance vary from Grays, Reptile, Insect looking and even human-looking blond beauties.

Abductees claim to have seen more than one type of Alien together on a craft or in a facility and have even reported seeing human looking people working with the aliens (sometimes in military uniform).

Hypnosis has been able to reveal an abductees experience more clearly, but there is evidence to suggest that something called a "Screen Memory" is placed in a victims subconscious that blocks the true information and only a deeper form of hypnosis can discover this. These "screen memories" are used to replace a victims period of "missing time". This may account for many abductees only suspecting an abduction has taken place, as only vague flashbacks are experienced.

All these reports lead me to believe that we are merely alien experiments and our future is constantly monitored and "adjusted". It would also seem that some humans are also helping the aliens in some way (either willingly or by force). Clearly, there is sufficient evidence to suggest that Aliens are more involved in our lives than we imagine, yet it is hard to accept that we are little more than Lab rats!

Yet it seems strange that if there are so many UFO sightings and Abductions, and the Aliens are friendly, why haven't they made more attempt to contact us in a more normal way? Why is it that the military and government organizations, who have more sophisticated tracking devices, are so eager to deny the knowledge of UFO's? Is it really possible that they don't see what others do?

Perhaps the reason for the secrecy is the effect the truth would have on such Alien experiments? Maybe they prefer to examine us under natural circumstances?

One thing seems clear, Aliens do not appear to be guiding our planet and its people to better times, otherwise we would see less wars, disease and natural disasters. Aliens often tell abductees that Global Chaos and Destruction is imminent and that some humans will be "rescued" from the planet to continue the species (either on another planet or on Earth after the destruction is over). If they were really our "friends", would they not tell all of us and give more humans a chance to survive? Perhaps the disaster is man made and could be avoided with some help?

Obviously some if not most of you reading this will think this is crazy, but that is to be expected because your brains are saturated by the media day in day out with nothing but the usual politically correct nonsense.

UFO'S exist that isn't in question, there have been hundreds of thousands of Unidentified Flying Objects at all times in recorded human history, the question which should be asked is what is responsible for these abnomolies?. Even the most hardened skeptic must concede that many of the Abduction Reports and UFO Sightings can not be simply dismissed as figments of the imagination or weather balloons.

With so many other planets in our universe, it would take a very narrow minded person indeed to believe that we are the only life form that exists. It would also be arrogant to assume that just because humans are the dominant life force on this planet, we would be superior to any "alien" life from another planet.

I actually believe that humans are no more than Laboratory rats for a number of different alien races and it is our limited intelligence (compared to the aliens) that blind us from these facts. Humans obviously judge a situation based on their current level of knowledge and find it almost impossible to imagine an alien force that has advanced level spacecrafts or perhaps the ability to communicate without speech.

But what makes some people choose to dismiss all reports of aliens as pure imagination and stories invented by crazy people? Sure, many reports can be eliminated as doubtful and some photos of UFO's can be faked. But not all reports can be explained away this easily and why would so many people make up such stories? They can't all be crazy!

Could it be that a persons religion and their views on God conflict with the possibility of intelligent alien life? Are some people just afraid to know the truth? Are some people aware of aliens but choose to conceal these facts?

Many skeptics believe that sightings of UFO's have increased since the media started reporting these events, or because of Sci-Fi films and television shows that have been produced since. This may be true to a certain extent, but then perhaps people are more aware of their existence now?

UFO reports go back as far as 1504 BC, even many of the Biblical stories could be referring to UFO's. At the parting of the Sea, was a "cloud" not seen hovering above? And were there not reports of another "cloud" seen hovering over the tabernacle, that contained the commandments, and reports of light and unspoken voices? (and possible radiation affects on the skin of those who came in contact with this cloud).

Many American pilots during The Second World War reported seeing "luminous discs" (also called "foo fighters") following alongside their aircraft.

Following a large number of UFO sightings in 1947 the USAF began Project Blue Book (this was originally called Project Sign, changed to Project Grudge and finally called Project Blue Book). The USAF investigated some 12,618 sightings in approximately 22 years before the project was terminated on December the 17th 1969. The decision to terminate this report was based on an evaluation of a report prepared by the University of Colorado entitled, Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects, more commonly referred to as the "Condon Report".

Many of the investigations carried out by the USAF dismissed a large proportion of the reports saying that the sightings were aircraft, weather balloons and even the moon as it was setting. However, some of the reports could not be explained and were "unsolved". Yet despite this, the report was still terminated. It seems a little strange that such investigations were cancelled when their was no conclusive evidence that UFO's did not (or could not) exist. Surely even a small doubt about their existence should have been sufficient to continue this report?

But what of Abductions? Are Aliens just curious to see how we are getting on? I think not. There is a growing opinion that the Aliens motives are more sinister and many reports by abductees seem to support this. Many, as ia already known, refer to physical examinations where experiments are conducted. Samples are taken and fluids and objects are inserted. Some abductees experience considerable pain during these examinations and often discover marks on their bodies afterwards (single and multiple punctures, large bruises, 3 and 4 fingered claw marks and various triangles).

Aliens seem to have the ability to alter our perception of our surroundings and can make us see them in different forms (sometimes as someone we knew). Reports of their appearance vary from Grays, Reptile, Insect looking and even human-looking blond beauties.

Abductees claim to have seen more than one type of Alien together on a craft or in a facility and have even reported seeing human looking people working with the aliens (sometimes in military uniform).

Hypnosis has been able to reveal an abductees experience more clearly, but there is evidence to suggest that something called a "Screen Memory" is placed in a victims subconscious that blocks the true information and only a deeper form of hypnosis can discover this. These "screen memories" are used to replace a victims period of "missing time". This may account for many abductees only suspecting an abduction has taken place, as only vague flashbacks are experienced.

All these reports lead me to believe that we are merely alien experiments and our future is constantly monitored and "adjusted". It would also seem that some humans are also helping the aliens in some way (either willingly or by force). Clearly, there is sufficient evidence to suggest that Aliens are more involved in our lives than we imagine, yet it is hard to accept that we are little more than Lab rats!

Yet it seems strange that if there are so many UFO sightings and Abductions, and the Aliens are friendly, why haven't they made more attempt to contact us in a more normal way? Why is it that the military and government organizations, who have more sophisticated tracking devices, are so eager to deny the knowledge of UFO's? Is it really possible that they don't see what others do?

Perhaps the reason for the secrecy is the effect the truth would have on such Alien experiments? Maybe they prefer to examine us under natural circumstances?

One thing seems clear, Aliens do not appear to be guiding our planet and its people to better times, otherwise we would see less wars, disease and natural disasters. Aliens often tell abductees that Global Chaos and Destruction is imminent and that some humans will be "rescued" from the planet to continue the species (either on another planet or on Earth after the destruction is over). If they were really our "friends", would they not tell all of us and give more humans a chance to survive? Perhaps the disaster is man made and could be avoided with some help?

Obviously some if not most of you reading this will think this is crazy, but that is to be expected because your brains are saturated by the media day in day out with nothing but the usual politically correct nonsense.
Well, i suppose time will tell...

I forgot to mention that ABC is having a UFO special on tomorrow night. I know I'll be watching to see just what they think they have uncovered.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Primetime/story?id=468496

I've posted on this before ...
I've seen two so far, consciously and without any specific chemical or psychological stimulus at the time.
The first i witnessed was akin to the Lubbock Lights, i witnessed it with 5 other people. At least 3 of us weren't on anything chemical at the time. One of them was in a slightly different location.
The second was much more personal and was witnessed by a police officer as well as myself and my gf of the time, a stranger in a silver subaru, one of the police dispatchers of our town, two other witnesses i haven't met but have heard of testimony from, and the power grid for our town was also compromised during the event. It would take a LONG time to describe it, as long or longer than West Pacific's post.
Thanks, West Pacific, for that, btw.
Also, i thank JRV for the posts here, especially on Carter.
And for Saffey, i met the guy. In person it's very hard for him not to be a stuck-up stickybeak in person. Or was, anyway.
I might be able to post later on this but if anyone wants to hear it just telegram me and i'll tell ya about it.
I've also witnessed satellites crash into the inlet nearby. That's a cool sight.

I don't have any links so you guys will have to take my word on this.

Aliens exist, the American government knows this, the Russian, English, French, Belgian, and Indian governments all have intimate knowledge with them. During the height of the Cold War the Americans and Russians got together and decided what to do should a being ever be captured. Five so called "beings" have been captured alive, all five were killed immediately as per the agreement made between the USSR and USA. The Belgian Air Force actually engaged UFO's on multiple occasions, several times they would get a lock on a UFO and it would then accelerate at phenomenal rates which would likely kill any human pilot (according to some reports the Belgians even fired a missile at one of these UFO's but once again it dodged it). Several thousand sightings of UFO's have been confirmed in the former USSR, details of which are just now being released, a Russian ICBM was supposedly nearly launched by a UFO. I am sure everyone here has heard about Roswell, New Mexico and Area-51, we now know that several of the sightings around Area-51 were in fact highly classified military aircraft, but what of the others? Or how about the sightings over Mexico? No way that can be hoaxed and I highly doubt that the Mexican Government could be involved if they are actually human made craft. In America we have government policies for how to deal with an encounter, we have these at the national, state, and local level, it is called JANAP-75 or something like that.

UFO's are real, we are being visited, look at Central America, giant images made of stones placed in lines that can only be seen from the air, even one that is humanoid in form but has certain featues characteristic of your typical alien. The Bible contains images and writings about UFO's (some will say that the star the three wise men followed was actually a UFO). In Renaissance paintings you can clearly see metallic objects in the sky that are very much like your stereotypical flying saucer.

someone who knows someone (obviously I can't divulge names) who worked at area 51 says that the govt. is actually planning on releasing information about aliens sometime in the near future but I am not so sure that it will be truthful. Supposedly it is going to be over some interstellar war in which the US is going to backstab the Greys who they have "allied" with to save them from a repetillian race, and instead team up with the reptiles to conquer the greys.

Apparently X-Files was some disinformation campaign as well.

It all sounds liek BS to me but I am not discounting it as partially probable. Who knows really? Cant say I now anyone who can say what truth really is for sure.

I have also read about an incident in Brazil.

At approximately midnight on 19th January 1996, Norad (North American Air Defense Command) notified their Brazilian equivalent - CINDACTA - that a UFO was coming to Earth somewhere over the southern parts of Minas Gerais state. This transaction was witnessed by and leaked by a Brazilian Air Force man and substantiated by an employee at the radar facility at Air Force Base VI Correa.
At 1-30 a.m. on 20th January 1996, two farm workers, Augusta and Eurico Rodrigues, were awakened by the moans of cattle and sheep. On looking out of the window they saw the animals in a state of frenzy and on looking up they saw a silent UFO without lights.
"It was a submarine-shaped object about the size of a mini-bus and was trembling like a curtain and emitting smoke or fog as it descended to 5 metres above the ground".
The Rodrigues couple's farm is located in a coffee district 6 miles northwest of the town of Varginha.
An un-named military witness, apparently a member of the debris retrieval team, "leaked" the following information: "The material was twisted and lightweight".
The UFO is believed to have crashed between 1-30a.m. and 5-00a.m. - An American civilian was present when the cigar-shaped UFO was loaded aboard a flatbed truck."
It is believed that a number of EBEs survived the crash and entered the forest. It was also reported that a farmer shot one of the EBEs as it crawled out of the crashed cigar-shaped UFO.

At 8-00a.m. 20th January, college student Tucio Gaidno,20, then living in the Jardim Andere area of Varginha, looked out of his bathroom window to see " a creature with oily dark brown skin crouched in the alley way". The creature had no hair, no clothing and was about 4-5 feet tall. It had very small hands with 3 extremely long fingers - it ran away when someone called out.
As early as 7-00a.m. the Fire Department started receiving emergency calls about some wild animal that had got loose - at 9-00a.m. Major Maciel sent four firemen to check the situation. On arrival the four firemen called the Major asking him to attend as the situation was much more complicated than originally thought, the Military were already on the spot.
When Major Maciel, arrived, at 10-30a.m., a creature had already been captured using a net and gloves and according to witnesses the creature appeared to be apathetic to the way he had been treated - some children had been throwing stones at it. The witnesses also stated that the creature was making a noise similar to bees buzzing. The creature was caught in front of a house at Rua Suecia 3 and was placed in a wooden box which was covered with a white plastic cover. It was then placed on an army truck and driven away.

http://www.thewhyfiles.co.uk/images/varginhaalien.jpg http://www.thewhyfiles.co.uk/images/varginhaebe_1.jpg
Artist depictions of the being captured.

http://www.bobpratt.org/varginha.html

THE CREATURE AT THE ZOO, APRIL 21:

On the evening of April 21, Terezinha Clepf, her husband and some friends attended a birthday party at a restaurant in Varginha’s zoo. Around nine o'clock, after Mrs. Clepf finished eating, she went outside to sit on the verandah by herself and smoke a cigarette. Several minutes she began to feel uneasy.



“I felt that someone was looking at me,” she said later. The porch was dark but some light was coming from the restaurant. “I turned to my left and saw a strange creature staring at me.”



It was about fifteen feet away and appeared to be four to five feet tall. “I didn’t know what it was, an animal or whatever,” Mrs. Clepf, then sixty seven, said.



“It was very ugly. It was brown and had a brightness or shininess to the skin. The eyes were big and red and the mouth was just a stroke. He stayed there looking at me.”



She was so terrified she could barely move for several minutes. Then, afraid to make any sudden movement, she slowly got up and walked back inside. She looked back once and the creature was still staring at her. It was several days before she could tell her husband about it.

THE ZOO DEATHS:
After that incident was publicized, Leila Cabral, director of the zoo, contacted Ubirajara and Pacaccini and told them that five animals had mysteriously died at the zoo about a week before Mrs. Clepf’s experience. An anteater, two deer, a blue macaw and a bobcat died suddenly and unexpectedly.



The anteater was healthy and tame. It died because of an “unidentified toxic substance,” Ms. Cabral said. The deer died of “caustic intoxication without apparent cause” and no cause of death could be determined for the macaw and bobcat.

THE PASSOS CREATURE:

A seventh creature was seen several times in May 1996 in Passos, a city about forty miles north of Varginha, but whether it should be included as part of the “Varginha ET” case is questionable because this one was violent.



A twenty-year-old man named Luciano said he was walking home late one dark night when a hairy creature about five-foot-five and with a strange growl jumped out from the trees and attacked him. Luciano is six-foot-five and weighed a hundred and ninety pounds but was knocked to the ground, his shirt and jacket ripped by sharp claws.



He kicked out and knocked the creature off balance, jumped up and ran but was knocked down again. In the scuffle, Luciano kicked the creature in the groin, causing it to double over, and Luciano was finally able to escape to a nearby house.



Pacaccini investigated the incident and he saw Luciano’s injuries and torn clothing. He is convinced Luciano was telling the truth.



A week later Pacaccini and another investigator found three other persons in Passos who said they too had been attacked. Not knowing what the creature was and for lack of a more accurate term, all four victims described it as a “werewolf. “



Pacaccini believes the Passos creature is real and unexplained but doubts it is related to the Varginha creatures because of its size, hairiness and vicious nature.



“We are talking about a completely different creature, in a totally different situation,” Pacaccini said.

THE AMERICANS:
Almost from the beginning, some investigators were convinced that the creatures dead and alive had been taken to the United States.



This conviction was based largely on (1) the belief that these creatures truly were from some place other than Earth, and (2) statements made by disgruntled military personnel who resented the idea that Brazil would relinquish control of the aliens and turn them over to the U.S.



This conviction was further strengthened in early March 1996 – just five weeks after the initial incidents – by the visit to São Paulo and other parts of Brazil of Warren Christopher, then U.S. Secretary of State, and NASA Director Daniel S. Goldin, ostensibly to arrange for a Brazilian astronaut to join a future Space Shuttle flight.

No belief in UFO's here.

I've seen things I couldn't initially explain, but getting a clearer view of the objects has always cleared it up, and revealed it to be a shiny airplane, or a speck of dust on a window.

I highly doubt the US has the capacity to become involved in an interstellar war, we can barely control what happens on our own planet, let alone what happens light years away.

Does anyone here watch Stargate? I think that to be the most likely way to be transported, supposedly that is all possible, my Physics professor said that most of the stuff was theoretically possible but was not applicable with our current technology. Or Contact, that movie was written by a Physicist, everything in that movie is accurate to how it would happen, that involves worm holes and the bending of time and space. When you move faster time slows down, even on the space shuttle, astronauts have done experiments with this, they took two atomic clocks, calibrated them to the second, and then one went into space while the other stayed on land, the result? The one that went to space came back a couple minutes behind the one that never left the planet.

well so do I but if you think about it, if they have a deal with an alien race and are getting alien technology to help them win this war (a war over humans and who gets to control human evolution), then they possibly could have the technology to participate. supposedly though humans lack the capacity to use any of the technology that required extra sensory abilities. and thats basically all of it. So you think they are cloning alien human hybrids for this?

There is only one role I could see human playing in an intergalactic war, shock troopers. Think about it, what is one thing almost all alien sightings have in common? Aliens are weak, physically, and it would make sense. Their bodies would be evolved to where they would have a maximum of brain power but have to sacrifice physical strength. If this is so a small group of human soldiers would be devastating inside an alien facility, hand to hand combat would be no contest, even small arms exchanges would probably favor the humans. We are skilled at land based combat, most alien species would probably be putting much more focus on fighting using spacecraft, their tactics against small groups of fighters would be less than brilliant, but if we really are involved then these aliens would not hesitate to sterilize earth, meaning nuking it so that it is unhabitable for tens of thousands of years.

i forgot to mention that the human races current state is supposedly due to an experimental hybridization of humans with alien dna - so now humans are the centerpeice of interstellar economics and many different races have a stake in us. fuck if I know whats really going on and maybe my friend was picked to spread more disinformation to cause more confusion.

i see where you are going with that, but if these aliens are so highly evolved mentally that they could devastate humans with a thought.

also they cant nuke earth because we are part of their economy

Just had a conversation with my 8 year old son about this very subject. He was watching some show about an Alien crash in Pennsylvania in '65. (I know I need to supervise better what he watches) Just curious out of our huge audience here. Who amongst you have seen anything you just couldnt explain? Who believes and why? Even if you havent seen anything unexplainable I want to hear if you believe or not.
Questioning stuff is healthy, so scrap the supervise more idea. I'm saying let the TV raise him but ya know, let him be liberal minded.

I believe and hope that there are things that I can never explain. To know everything would be boring, and trust we are not the only living beings in the world. We are not so important.

i forgot to mention that the human races current state is supposedly due to an experimental hybridization of humans with alien dna - so now humans are the centerpeice of interstellar economics and many different races have a stake in us. fuck if I know whats really going on and maybe my friend was picked to spread more disinformation to cause more confusion.
Have a stake in us, what do you mean by that?

Have a stake in us, what do you mean by that?
If you get a mirror and look at your back, you'll find a pointed wooden stick stuck into it. That's the stake they have in us.

Unless they meant "steak"...
:eek:
They're going to eat us!!

If you get a mirror and look at your back, you'll find a pointed wooden stick stuck into it. That's the stake they have in us.

Unless they meant "steak"...
:eek:
They're going to eat us!!
Damn, if only i'd thought of that before :rolleyes:

"Don't run, we are your friends!" - Mars Attacks
*context*

Who amongst you have seen anything you just couldnt explain?

We've all seen Westlife get 11 number ones. What's more supernatural than that?

We've all seen Westlife get 11 number ones. What's more supernatural than that?

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We've all seen Westlife get 11 number ones. What's more supernatural than that?
A flying Cheeto with 15 giant bunnies waving from flagpoles on top?

A flying Cheeto with 15 giant bunnies waving from flagpoles on top?

Pshaw even. They could never feel the fire spout obscenities toward Terrence McKenna. Well maybe if they were on the vine, swinging to the tune of a different colored horse.

here is the link to one of the US minute man missle silo encounters. http://ufocasebook.com/minotafb.html

Here is another one out of INDIA. This is in dealings with seeing through a cloaked craft. They think they figured out how to spot cloaked UFO's. Somewhat interesting discussionhttp://indiadaily.com/editorial/1629.asp

I believe that there is intelligent life out there. THere are billions of stars like the sun. At least one of them has to support life as it does. I mean it's foolish to believe we are alone.

That being said, I don't believe most sightings are extra-terrestrial. I don't even believe Roswell was alien related. The government first said Roswell was alien related as it was a cover story for the atmospheric re-entry vehicles being tested. It was a good cover as everyone bought it. SInce the end of the COld War, it has been revealed that the government spread the story of aliens to fool the Soviets and hide our activities from them.

I do not doubt that aliens exist in the universe, there are sextillions of planets in the universe so at least 2 must have life.

But I do doubt that aliens have ever come to earth, because the possibility of life in close proximity to earth is remote, and they could not travel to earth if they live 1000's of light years away. Because according to relativity, it is impossible to travel at the speed of light, because as you approach that speed, the energy you put in acceration, turns to mass, requiring more energy to push you along which will keep turning into mass.

therefore you can not travel at the speed of light, so there is no way any aliens could ever get here.

I do not doubt that aliens exist in the universe, there are sextillions of planets in the universe so at least 2 must have life.

But I do doubt that aliens have ever come to earth, because the possibility of life in close proximity to earth is remote, and they could not travel to earth if they live 1000's of light years away. Because according to relativity, it is impossible to travel at the speed of light, because as you approach that speed, the energy you put in acceration, turns to mass, requiring more energy to push you along which will keep turning into mass.

therefore you can not travel at the speed of light, so there is no way any aliens could ever get here.

Read up directly from the NASA web site.

http//:www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/warp.html (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/research/warp/warp.html)

Because according to relativity, it is impossible to travel at the speed of light, because as you approach that speed, the energy you put in acceration, turns to mass, requiring more energy to push you along which will keep turning into mass.

therefore you can not travel at the speed of light, so there is no way any aliens could ever get here.


That's not why you can't surpass the speed of light! Have you ever taken special relativity?

Even a proton being shot through a particle accellerator can not surpass the speed of light. That's because force imparted to a particle is not linearly related to the subsequent change in velocity the object experiences. It appears linear when dealing with small forces, but in reality it assymtotically approaches zero the closer the particle comes to the speed of light.

A proton travelling at .99999c will never reach 1c, no matter how much more energy you give it. You can leave it in the particle accelerator for the rest of your life and it'll never reach the speed of light.

Energy does not change to mass unless you are using gamma radiation to create matter/anti-matter twin particles. The mass of a particle in a particle accelerator remains constant.

UFO'S exist that isn't in question, there have been hundreds of thousands of Unidentified Flying Objects at all times in recorded human history, the question which should be asked is what is responsible for these abnomolies?. Even the most hardened skeptic must concede that many of the Abduction Reports and UFO Sightings can not be simply dismissed as figments of the imagination or weather balloons.

Well actually, I think most abductions can be explained as figments of the imaginations, and I’m not saying people deliberately make these stories up. Sleep paralysis…

http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html

EDIT: I’ve experienced a bit of this myself. Nothing major and it has only been once or twice, but none the less, I did hear strange noises though.

Well actually, I think most abductions can be explained as figments of the imaginations, and I’m not saying people deliberately make these stories up. Sleep paralysis…

http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html

EDIT: I’ve experienced a bit of this myself. Nothing major and it has only been once or twice, but none the less, I did hear strange noises though.

I actually have had this happen to me many times. But never with anything wierd associated with. The mind is a very powerful machine. It is a fact that it can fool a person into believing something that isnt there. Again though it still is possible that abductions occur. Ever see that movie "Fire in the sky". Seemed very believable to me. Although it is difficult to dismiss because of so many witness.

That's not why you can't surpass the speed of light! Have you ever taken special relativity?

Even a proton being shot through a particle accellerator can not surpass the speed of light. That's because force imparted to a particle is not linearly related to the subsequent change in velocity the object experiences. It appears linear when dealing with small forces, but in reality it assymtotically approaches zero the closer the particle comes to the speed of light.

A proton travelling at .99999c will never reach 1c, no matter how much more energy you give it. You can leave it in the particle accelerator for the rest of your life and it'll never reach the speed of light.

Energy does not change to mass unless you are using gamma radiation to create matter/anti-matter twin particles. The mass of a particle in a particle accelerator remains constant.
Er yes but theoretically you can travel just under the speed of light using einsteins theory of relativity, which is virtually the same as travelling at the speed of light. :headbang:

Also another theoritcal way of travelling galactic distances is through 'wormholes', as stephen hawking has explained it's possible using the 'string theory'. I suggest you read his book 'Universe in a nutshell', you might learn something new...

Aliens like people say they see are demons, pure ans dsimple folks. They come to test are faiths.

I don't believe in UFO's, but I do believe in alien life.

'Nuff said.

I actually have had this happen to me many times. But never with anything wierd associated with. The mind is a very powerful machine. It is a fact that it can fool a person into believing something that isnt there. Again though it still is possible that abductions occur. Ever see that movie "Fire in the sky". Seemed very believable to me. Although it is difficult to dismiss because of so many witness.

Indeed. No I haven't seen that movie yet, though I'd like to. I saw a documentary about the incident though and yeah, it's hard to dismiss things like that.

Aliens may exist, but they have never been here.

Aliens may exist, but they have never been here.

Prove it. :p

I mean, seriously. Why would aliens travel halfway across the galaxy, in their grand ships with their advanced civilizations, just to put an anal probe up a hillbillies ass?

I mean, seriously. Why would aliens travel halfway across the galaxy, in their grand ships with their advanced civilizations, just to put an anal probe up a hillbillies ass?

LMAO

Prove it. :p

I can't. Seeing how there is no actual proof that they've been here, though, I shall assume they haven't. Unless you have any evidence that proves otherwise, your just making an illogical leap of faith if you claim they have walked among us.

lmao

:)

I can't. Seeing how there is no actual proof that they've been here, though, I shall assume they haven't. Unless you have any evidence that proves otherwise, your just making an illogical leap of faith if you claim they have walked among us.

Read back. I don’t believe that aliens have visited us.

I believe that in a universe as large as ours, there are living organism out there besides us humans. HOWEVER, I do not believe those organisms are humanoids or anything larger than the largest microscopic organism...er...you get what i mean.
:mp5: :sniper:
^lol^ how fun

Read back. I don’t believe that aliens have visited us.

It's a long thread. I forget who says what and....

Sorry.

It's a long thread. I forget who says what and....

Sorry.

np. I understand. :)

I believe that in a universe as large as ours, there are living organism out there besides us humans. HOWEVER, I do not believe those organisms are humanoids or anything larger than the largest microscopic organism...er...you get what i mean.
:mp5: :sniper:
^lol^ how fun

You cant be serious in thinking that we as humans are the only intelligence out there do you?

Well, the dog I have is sometimes smarter than some of humans I know. So we're not the only intelligence out there.