NationStates Jolt Archive


Was NS better off before Earth I, II, etc.

Buechoria
22-02-2005, 01:41
Well?
Neo-Anarchists
22-02-2005, 01:43
Well?
Seeing as I don't roleplay, I have no idea what the situation is.
Buechoria
22-02-2005, 01:47
I put this is general because whenever something OOC that isn't somehow related to some roleplay is posted in NS or II, it dies.
Thelona
22-02-2005, 01:50
What's Earth I, etc.?
Cogitation
22-02-2005, 01:58
What's Earth I, etc.?
Pretend that lots of people like playing the board game Risk. One Risk board isn't enough to accomodate everyone, so many Risk boards are set up to accomodate all the players. They then call each board by a different number.

The Earth I, Earth II, Earth III, and others can be thought of in the same manner.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Thelona
22-02-2005, 02:00
That's actually kind of a neat idea. Is that what separates the tech levels roleplaying I very occasionally see? Because I always thought my horse tribes would simply not fit in the roleplaying against space armadas.

Wanders off to look for a pertinent sticky thread...
BLARGistania
22-02-2005, 02:03
I don't really have an opinion one way or another but I do admit it can lessen the amount of other RPers in one particular RP.

On the other hand, I'm in an RP with Tanuio and its been fun.
Rupil
22-02-2005, 02:20
It's nice because everybody who's so inclined to claim a real earth contry can do so, but there are still some people who don't recognize the "extra" earths.
But there are problems...
New Genoa
22-02-2005, 03:43
No, because I don't touch II. When I rp it's only in the NS forum. I'm not affected by such epidemics. :D
Colodia
22-02-2005, 03:47
I'm co-leader of E2 alongside Layarteb, RomeW, and the many other people that make it such a great Earth.

And I must say, it has been an annoyance watching so many people ditch Earth II to make their own Earths (Earth DA comes to mind) to satisfy their imperialistic needs. But we don't pay mind to the other Earths, mainly because we don't RP with them at all.

Overall, I think the RP experience is much better. Serves for an excellent visual impact, an easier way to base who is who, etc. etc.
Dementedus_Yammus
22-02-2005, 04:05
Pretend that lots of people like playing the board game Risk. One Risk board isn't enough to accomodate everyone, so many Risk boards are set up to accomodate all the players. They then call each board by a different number.

The Earth I, Earth II, Earth III, and others can be thought of in the same manner.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation


oh, i get it.

i thought that earth I & ect. were other online games that were similar to this one that were stealing our members


but yea...

i don't roleplay, so i don't care.
Buechoria
22-02-2005, 04:05
I'm just gonna say that my counter-arguement against Earths is originality.

It's rare to see the forces of Randomplacia attack Place de random's shores, but rather their country in Earth sixty-septmillion.

No longer is it:

Randomplacia v. Place de Random

but rather,

Ireland v. Seychelles & Italy
Eichen
22-02-2005, 04:18
Pretend that lots of people like playing the board game Risk. One Risk board isn't enough to accomodate everyone, so many Risk boards are set up to accomodate all the players. They then call each board by a different number.

The Earth I, Earth II, Earth III, and others can be thought of in the same manner.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Sounds like a bad case of overenthusiasm.

I'd admire it in a fuzzy, nostalgic way. But he really should seek wages for at least some of that energy.
Colodia
22-02-2005, 04:25
I'm just gonna say that my counter-arguement against Earths is originality.

It's rare to see the forces of Randomplacia attack Place de random's shores, but rather their country in Earth sixty-septmillion.

No longer is it:

Randomplacia v. Place de Random

but rather,

Ireland v. Seychelles & Italy
No, it's still not a case of RL Nation vs. RL Nation.

A weak nation cannot claim a nation like Russia, for example, and expect to be as powerful as Russia.

A strong nation cannot claim a nation like Equador, for example, and worry about being invaded.

Your nations stats still apply, weak nations get overrun no matter what land they hold. etc. etc.
Jordaxia
22-02-2005, 04:29
I'm against it. I'm against most things though. Especially when I went to the trouble of getting someone else to draw the map of my nation, and gave it the very specific location "south of Atlantis"
I think there's a place for all the myriad Earths... they just seem overly dominant nowadays, people refusing to rp with each other simply because of pedantics like the number of Earth.


then I stopped RPing and moved to general.

maybe I should keep a diary of my forum wanderings?
Whittier-
22-02-2005, 04:38
makes no difference.
Layarteb
27-02-2005, 06:19
:: Weighs in ::

Consider Nation-States like a town, we'll call it Green City. Within Green City are country-clubs. These country-clubs are the Earth n's. Members that belong to these country-clubs live in the city. Therefore they are part of the city.

So the analogy says that even though you are part of Earth n you are still part of NS as a whole. I know some people out there only hide in their Earth which annoys me but it's their own perogative to do it.

See in the NS world, continents, oceans, etc. are like 35x bigger or what not so a B-2 wouldn't even get halfway across the NS Atlantic Ocean on a full fuel load. Having a different Earth scales it down HEAVILY. It's RL distances and such, much more manageable. Also, I hate this, but in NS most RPs become 200 nation battle royales that are impossible to follow, let alone participate in. Earth n scales that down.

Granted I may be a jerk and a iron-fist in Earth II, the poll on it has shown that more people think it to be better than not and I do have an online form for those part of it to weigh in their suggestions. We don't hold grudges against people (unless they're total panty-wastes) but that's another, unnecessary story. Yes we have a lot of rules, some which you or others MAY NOT agree with and such is such. But the rules are there to apply to all and make it very fair, including me and Colodia!

For example. One of our rules states that if you transfer land from one person to another BOTH people have to post that this occured. This eliminates the "Well I didn't say that" and "He stole my land." So for example. I purchased Ireland from someone and I asked them to post on the thread that they sold it to me. Well they never did so guess what, I never got the land. Long story short it became under another article meant to remove the inactive "grab land & go" people but rightfully so I should have had 100% of the land because I did get it. Well since he never posted I only got what I could get through RP and another person took the rest. So yes even I am subject to the rules. In Earth II there is no corruption and I will stand by that. Any corruption is IMMEDIATELY stamped out.

My opinion on other Earths?
Simple, it has gotten TOO out of hand. RL Earth I was formed. They made Earth II and it stopped there. Earth II died so we brought it back. 5 days later there was Earth III, IV, V, VI, VII, and so on and so fourth. There are, currently, including Earth II, 22 Earths. It's so excessive, especially when you have people that are part of 6 different Earths. The purpose of E2 was to give those who didn't get land in E1 a home. Therein why we have the no multi-earth policy. Every rule & policy we have comes from hard learned experiences.

All are welcome so long as they agree to all rules and by signing up for E2 they do. Granted there isn't much land available, that changes so frequently it isn't funny. Algeria just opened up and with the last rule to stomp out of the "grab land & go" people, more is available.

And for the record BLARGistania and Tanuio have the longest running and IMHO the best RP in E2.