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bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.

I'm Gay. I don't have HIV or AIDS. Actually, I'd only be worried if they started recruiting black African women.

bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.
As though gays are the source of HIV?

Ein Deutscher']I'm Gay. I don't have HIV or AIDS. Actually, I'd only be worried if they started recruiting black African women.

Was that sarcasm? Or a sincere opinion?

Was that sarcasm? Or a sincere opinion?
Black African Women are obviously the largest risk group regarding HIV/AIDS.

Ein Deutscher']I'm Gay. I don't have HIV or AIDS. Actually, I'd only be worried if they started recruiting black African women.

Cool, you could sign up and swab the poop decks.

As though gays are the source of HIV?


Many gay men do have the HIV and the AIDs in them, correct?

I don't believe you. I see no reason for HIV and aids to spread simply because of the place of someones employment. By that logic, gays shouldn't be allowed to work, because they'll be in the same environment. Besides, it works on the flawed assumption that homosexuals refuse to use protection.
Also, it doesn't just spread through the gay community, straight people get it too!

Unless of course... the royal navy spreads aids on its ships, and by broadening the recruitment spectrum, they spread the disease by default?

Cool, you could sign up and swab the poop decks.

Heh.

Ein Deutscher']I'm Gay. I don't have HIV or AIDS. Actually, I'd only be worried if they started recruiting black African women.

Most gays are at a high risk of getting it.

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bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.
HIV/Aids are spread through the transmission of bodily fluids eg. unprotected sex, it makes no difference whether it is a man or woman.

P.S. Its the Royal Navy or BRITISH Royal Navy, it's not just English.

Ein Deutscher']Black African Women are obviously the largest risk group regarding HIV/AIDS.


No, blacks in general, are 15 times more likley to have it compared to any other group.

Many gay men do have the HIV and the AIDs in them, correct?
I'm getting sick and tired of your homophobic posts.

HIV/Aids are spread through the transmission of bodily fluids eg. unprotected sex, it makes no difference whether it is a man or woman.

P.S. Its the Royal Navy or BRITISH Royal Navy, it's not just English.

Because of the nature of how gays do things with each other, it is far more likley to spread aids, because things go where they're not supposed to be.

Many gay men do have the HIV and the AIDs in them, correct?

Many heterosexual men and women have AIDS. What's your point?

Most gays are at a high risk of getting it.
Only if they have unsafe sex... most likely anal sex. Most gays I know don't do unsafe sex due to exactly this risk. And most I know don't even like anal sex :)

I don't believe you. I see no reason for HIV and aids to spread simply because of the place of someones employment. By that logic, gays shouldn't be allowed to work, because they'll be in the same environment. Besides, it works on the flawed assumption that homosexuals refuse to use protection.
Also, it doesn't just spread through the gay community, straight people get it too!

Unless of course... the royal navy spreads aids on its ships, and by broadening the recruitment spectrum, they spread the disease by default?

Well if you don't participate in unprotected gay, royal navy, ass sex, your changes of catching the AIDs is slim.

No, gays shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere. When I go to get my hair done or buy flowers, I don't need no gay eyeing me up and down. Certain people have lost teeth while doing this to yours' truely.

Because of the nature of how gays do things with each other, it is far more likley to spread aids, because things go where they're not supposed to be.
Erm, no...it can go wherever it wants to go, it doesn't make it any less likely to infect a person whether they are gay or straight.

No, blacks in general, are 15 times more likley to have it compared to any other group.
I dunno about Blacks in general. But I know that Africa has a very serious AIDS problem and that African women are most affected by this.

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bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.


It's the navy, for God's sake. It's not like there weren't any homosexuals in it before.

I don't believe you. I see no reason for HIV and aids to spread simply because of the place of someones employment. By that logic, gays shouldn't be allowed to work, because they'll be in the same environment. Besides, it works on the flawed assumption that homosexuals refuse to use protection.
Also, it doesn't just spread through the gay community, straight people get it too!

Unless of course... the royal navy spreads aids on its ships, and by broadening the recruitment spectrum, they spread the disease by default?

Gays will sign up as a way to meet other men.

Well if you don't participate in unprotected gay, royal navy, ass sex, your changes of catching the AIDs is slim.

No, gays shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere. When I go to get my hair done or buy flowers, I don't need no gay eyeing me up and down. Certain people have lost teeth while doing this to yours' truely.
To be honest, we have taste. You do not seem to be the kind of guy *anyone* would want to eye up. Not even girls. How's Lady 5-fingers doing?

Because of the nature of how gays do things with each other, it is far more likley to spread aids, because things go where they're not supposed to be.

Congratulations. You have just posted what we in the scientific community refer to as "absolute bollocks".

Gays will sign up as a way to meet other men.

Wouldn't it just be easier for them to go to a gay bar instead?

Because of the nature of how gays do things with each other, it is far more likley to spread aids, because things go where they're not supposed to be.
That is, assuming that one of them has AIDS, and they are stupid and don't get tested.

Gays will sign up as a way to meet other men.
And turn them gay with a blink of their eyes. Duh...

I'm getting sick and tired of your homophobic posts.

Don't read them. Isn't it true that the AIDs is starting to become a problem again in the gay community?

I am not homophobic. How was that post homophobic.

I'm getting tired of your bleeding heart, sissy posts. :)

It's the navy, for God's sake. It's not like there weren't any homosexuals in it before.

This will result in even more, if gays were allowed in any military institution I was in, I would leave as soon as possible.

Don't read them. Isn't it true that the AIDs is starting to become a problem again in the gay community?

I am not homophobic. How was that post homophobic.

I'm getting tired of your bleeding heart, sissy posts. :)
No. Not as far as I know. At least not more of a problem as anywhere else.

Gays will sign up as a way to meet other men.
Instead of going to a pub, like everyone else?

How insidious.

I have serious doubts that the Royal navy will become little more than a glorified floating dating service when there are other, far more accessable ways to go about doing things.

Ein Deutscher']To be honest, we have taste. You do not seem to be the kind of guy *anyone* would want to eye up. Not even girls. How's Lady 5-fingers doing?

I wouldn't know, as I have no arms and legs. Tell me, how are your anal fissures holding up?

BTW the correct term is Rosey Palm and her 5 friends.

This will result in even more, if gays were allowed in any military institution I was in, I would leave as soon as possible.
Obviously you are sexually very insecure. Are you afraid of finding your inner gay feelings or are you just a victim of your indoctrinated homophobia?

I wouldn't know, as I have no arms and legs. Tell me, how are your anal fissures holding up?

BTW the correct term is Rosey Palm and her 5 friends.
I'm not having anal sex so they're doing fine. If you don't have any arms and legs, I doubt anyone would eye you up.

Wait a minute...

Kahta, why would you care if AIDS was spread to more homosexuals? If they all died, wouldn't you be able to stop worrying about them?
:confused:

Because of the nature of how gays do things with each other, it is far more likley to spread aids, because things go where they're not supposed to be.
Like Tahiti. Them gays is a going to Tahiti, shiver me timbers, an' Tahiti is the place for diseases

and here was m thinking the entire ROyal Navy was gay anyway :confused:

I have a suggestion.

Why not give everyone(including them freakss who like the opposite sex) a blood test/STD check before they are enlisted? Due to the nature of being in the armed forces (sharing showers, living in close quarters etc...), the Navy should have the right to reject some one based on their medical history.

If they're clean, then there's no issue here.

Besides, HIV attacks the immune system and makes you more open to bacteria and viruses. Therefore you are a health hazard on a Naval ship, so they do have interest in not allowing HIV positive people into the armed forces.

Keep in mind, this should only apply to the armed forces. There is absolutely no reason to deny an HIV positive patient pretty much any other job, my only concern is what is stated above.

Well if you don't participate in unprotected gay, royal navy, ass sex, your changes of catching the AIDs is slim.

No, gays shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere. When I go to get my hair done or buy flowers, I don't need no gay eyeing me up and down. Certain people have lost teeth while doing this to yours' truely.
Real men don't buy flowers or get their hair 'done'. You're obviously a screaming woofter, albeit latent.

Don't read them. Isn't it true that the AIDs is starting to become a problem again in the gay community?

I am not homophobic. How was that post homophobic.

I'm getting tired of your bleeding heart, sissy posts. :)
Your post in this thread was not homophobic but your posts here on this forum in general are.

My posts are not bleeding heart or sissy. Nice to assume that I am a socialist because I oppose homophobic idiocy. :rolleyes:

and here was m thinking the entire ROyal Navy was gay anyway :confused:
Rum buggery and the lash. Great naval traditions. Made Britain the great force for moral virtue that it is today.

Ein Deutscher']I'm not having anal sex so they're doing fine. If you don't have any arms and legs, I doubt anyone would eye you up.


You may not be having gay, anal sex, but what about the good old fashioned tea bagging you do? How are the herpes sores holding up? Well I'm glad you stopped messing around back there as it is kind of gross! (http://www.tedsuey.com/art/puke.jpg) I'm glad those fissures are healing up nicely for you. You should still visit the Proctologist and get them fixed. Remember it's a one way street, and as with all one way streets, it's dangerous to go the "wrong way".

I have a suggestion.

Why not give everyone(including them freakss who like the opposite sex) a blood test/STD check before they are enlisted? Due to the nature of being in the armed forces (sharing showers, living in close quarters etc...), the Navy should have the right to reject some one based on their medical history.

If they're clean, then there's no issue here.

Besides, HIV attacks the immune system and makes you more open to bacteria and viruses. Therefore you are a health hazard on a Naval ship, so they do have interest in not allowing HIV positive people into the armed forces.

Keep in mind, this should only apply to the armed forces. There is absolutely no reason to deny an HIV positive patient pretty much any other job, my only concern is what is stated above.

And shockingly enough, any military branch tests all recruits up and down for all sorts of possible diseases, and reject recruits who have non-curable, potentially spreadable diseases. And they do it frequently.

Your post in this thread was not homophobic but your posts here on this forum in general are.

My posts are not bleeding heart or sissy. Nice to assume that I am a socialist because I oppose homophobic idiocy. :rolleyes:

From my pov your posts are far to the left. Never said you were a socialist, just a bleeding heart, sissy type.

Nonsense, my posts on here are all gay friendly, I swear.

You may not be having gay, anal sex, but what about the good old fashioned tea bagging you do? How are the herpes sores holding up? Well I'm glad you stopped messing around back there as it is kind of gross! (http://www.tedsuey.com/art/puke.jpg) I'm glad those fissures are healing up nicely for you. You should still visit the Proctologist and get them fixed. Remember it's a one way street, and as with all one way streets, it's dangerous to go the "wrong way".

Haven't you had enough nations deleted already?

Haven't you had enough nations deleted already?

Wait a second...who was he in the past? I didn't have him pegged as anyone.

You may not be having gay, anal sex, but what about the good old fashioned tea bagging you do? How are the herpes sores holding up? Well I'm glad you stopped messing around back there as it is kind of gross! (http://www.tedsuey.com/art/puke.jpg) I'm glad those fissures are healing up nicely for you. You should still visit the Proctologist and get them fixed. Remember it's a one way street, and as with all one way streets, it's dangerous to go the "wrong way".
You're sexually insecure, as someone else already pointed out. I'll not waste any more energy replying to you...

Wait a second...who was he in the past? I didn't have him pegged as anyone.
I was beginning to suspect that he sounded familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Gays will sign up as a way to meet other men.

Of course, just like how allowing women into the navy meant they all signed up looking for men, right?

:rolleyes:

Wait a second...who was he in the past? I didn't have him pegged as anyone.

'HannibalSmith' and 'MoeHoward' to name but two.

And shockingly enough, any military branch tests all recruits up and down for all sorts of possible diseases, and reject recruits who have non-curable, potentially spreadable diseases. And they do it frequently.

So why is this obvious case of homophobia even an issue???

Your logic astounds me. It's almost as good as the Creationists.

So why is this obvious case of homophobia even an issue???

Beats me. I'm certainly not the one making it an issue.

Beats me.
Hey, this is a thread about homosexuality, not S&M.

:D

Blast! Our dastardly homosexualist plan to bring down the Royal Navy by turning them all magically gay and infecting them with AIDs (which, by the way, we created- don't let those damn monkeys take all the credit, yo' ) has been foiled! Curse you, Kahta, and your little dog too. Curse you.

this is the most absurd thread ive ever read...

youd think that homosexuals all had AIDS or HIV and were denied access to condoms...

jeez

How will HIV and AIDS spread more? Its not like the gay men are going to rape everyone. And even if they have sex with each other on the boat, which is not very likely; that would have happened anyway.

Real men don't buy flowers or get their hair 'done'. You're obviously a screaming woofter, albeit latent.

Duh, I have to purchase flowers for the wife. I use wigs as I am naturally bald, and it seems that only gays work in wig shops. That is what I call getting my "hair" done.

You are obviously a screaming pillow biter, albeit flaming.

Haven't you had enough nations deleted already?

Nope! I find this fun.

Duh, I have to purchase flowers for the wife. I use wigs as I am naturally bald, and it seems that only gays work in wig shops. That is what I call getting my "hair" done.

If you wear wigs, you probably won't have to worry about gay men looking you over.

Ein Deutscher']You're sexually insecure, as someone else already pointed out. I'll not waste any more energy replying to you...


Thanks Freud, but the only thing I'm insecure about is not having any limbs. Why do you gays always say that about "homophobes"? Seriously, the majority of people aren't gay, neither are animals. Perhaps you are secretly straight, huh?

If you wear wigs, you probably won't have to worry about gay men looking you over.

Well, when you have certain assets, they do seem to look at your pants. I always tell them to get their eyes out of my pants.

I want the 10 minuates of my life i wasted looking at this ilogical topic fulled to the brim with stupidity, thanks to this post i've lost 20 I.Q. points

Why do you gays always say that about "homophobes"?

Maybe because it's actually true to some extent? It certainly seems so to me, but then where I live is thankfully quite liberal and most people don't care whether you screw men, women or cuddly toys, so I could be wrong.

Well, when you have certain assets, they do seem to look at your pants. I always tell them to get their eyes out of my pants.

Don't flatter yourself.

I like women, but my eyes aren't glued to the tits of every woman I pass. Maybe you have a strange stain on the back of your trousers or something. It wouldn't surprise me.

Maybe because it's actually true to some extent? It certainly seems so to me, but then where I live is thankfully quite liberal and most people don't care whether you screw men, women or cuddly toys, so I could be wrong.


Enjoy your own private gayville.

Don't flatter yourself.

I like women, but my eyes aren't glued to the tits of every woman I pass. Maybe you have a strange stain on the back of your trousers or something. It wouldn't surprise me.

Sure you like 'women', that are actually men. The best of both worlds indeed!

I love tits. I don't wear trousers, I wear short pants as wearing 'trousers' wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, now would it? Besides, the only thing that goes near my exit is my wife's tongue.

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bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.


I agree, what is wrong with people who make these decisions? Is nothing sacred for the agents of political correctness above all?

I agree, what is wrong with people who make these decisions? Is nothing sacred for the agents of political correctness above all?
Wait, so getting more people in the navy is a bad thing?

What you don't realise is that the Royal Navy has been accepting gays since 2000. Just because they try and recruit a few more, suddenly the whole Navy is going to turn gay and become AIDS infected?? I think not.

Because of the nature of how gays do things with each other, it is far more likley to spread aids, because things go where they're not supposed to be.


lol

Katha you are one of those solid gold flaimbaiters that makes the forum so entertaining.

Keep up the spread of ignorance and disinformation because it sure does make you look smart!

Wait, so getting more people in the navy is a bad thing?
yea

especially if theyre gay

because then were all going to die of AIDS

did nobody tell you?

http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11965-4133689,00.html

bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.
I always did refer to them as the second best Navy.

I would think that katha would hope that anyone who is inclined to have gay sex should do so right away as well as often, just so they can all die of AIDS and this can be e perfect world of straight white rich people

yea

especially if theyre gay

because then were all going to die of AIDS

did nobody tell you?

wow we should put this person in a test tube, we could find out where loonies come from

Well if you don't participate in unprotected gay, royal navy, ass sex, your changes of catching the AIDs is slim.

No, gays shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere. When I go to get my hair done or buy flowers, I don't need no gay eyeing me up and down. Certain people have lost teeth while doing this to yours' truely.

What a pleasant individual you are.

Technically,the only argument they have had so far is that gays do have a larger chance of contracting AIDS, however, not for the reason that more gays have AIDS.

It is true that anal sex is more likely to rip a condom than vaginal sex, so therefore you have a larger chance of getting AIDS by anal sex than vaginal sex. But, this has nothing to do with allowing them into the Navy.

What a pleasant individual you are.

He's taking the mickey. Personally I don't find as offensive as certain other posters, as the only reason he's posting this stuff is to annoy people.

wow we should put this person in a test tube, we could find out where loonies come from
im not serious. im parodying some other people....

Did you also that women are allowed in the Royal Navy? Surely a straight man could join up to have a relationship with a woman just as a gay man could sign up to have a relationship with a man.

Anyway I heard a debate on Radio 5 this morning (BBC Radio which being British I listen to) saying that if any gay men formed a relationship onboard they would be suspended for unprofessional conduct. The same applies to anyone who forms a relationship while on duty.

I am not particularly anti gay - I dont mind what they do in their private time so long as they don't thrust it (if you will pardon the expression) into society at large.

I would think that katha would hope that anyone who is inclined to have gay sex should do so right away as well as often, just so they can all die of AIDS and this can be e perfect world of straight white rich people

That would be nice world. One can only dream! (http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004W3MS.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

One can only dream! (http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004W3MS.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Hey, that's the cover of ágætis byrjun. That's a good album.

I loved the tolerant, liberal reporting of this with The Sun having a cartoon showing Lord Nelson's famous phrase "Kiss me Hardy" with Hardy replying "I thought you'd never ask sir" alongside a picture of Lord Kitchener saying "I want you" witha bent wrist.

Top journalism.

Well if you read The Sun you can't expect much better really...

Gays will sign up as a way to meet other men.

:rolleyes:
Most people don't apply for a job so they can date... Have you?

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bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.
Yes, because all and only gay people have HIV an AIDS, as a matter of fact, HIV is produces by becoming a homosexual male, its like testotesterone for gays

[/sarcasm]

No, blacks in general, are 15 times more likley to have it compared to any other group.

Got proof?

Got proof?
That depends on your definition of "proof." An intelligent, logical, verifiable proof, no he doesn't

Seeing as we're unlikely to get any more fun out of Kahta's rampant homophobia, I suggest that this abomination of a thread is locked.

In fact, I declare this thread deceased. Time of death: 00:42.

Got proof?


http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5133a1.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5315a1.htm

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm

I would think that katha would hope that anyone who is inclined to have gay sex should do so right away as well as often, just so they can all die of AIDS and this can be e perfect world of straight white rich people

The perfect America would be a white America divided by classes. Not everyone can be rich, and what people in their free time do doesn't concern me, because if they're gay, they're going to hell.

That depends on your definition of "proof." An intelligent, logical, verifiable proof, no he doesn't

Does the Center for Disease Control count as intelligent, logical, verifiable proof?

lol

Katha you are one of those solid gold flaimbaiters that makes the forum so entertaining.

Keep up the spread of ignorance and disinformation because it sure does make you look smart!


Its not ignorance, its the truth.

The reason I'm opposed to all gays, and anyone with AIDS/HIV in the military is because they are more likley to spread the disease in combat when blood starts flying.

I like how you can't debate on the facts, so you start calling names. Real mature.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5133a1.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5315a1.htm

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm

Thanks.

Why don't victims of Hepatitis C get the same flak as people with HIV from racist puritan yanks?

The perfect America would be a white America divided by classes. Not everyone can be rich, and what people in their free time do doesn't concern me, because if they're gay, they're going to hell.

We need a caste system, but not rigid like India. If folks work hard, they ought to be allowed to advance in life.

We need a caste system, but not rigid like India. If folks work hard, they ought to be allowed to advance in life.

:D
Please keep talking!

Thanks.



http://www.hivandhepatitis.com/2004icr/11croi/docs/0301/030104_h.htm

Its not ignorance, its the truth.

The reason I'm opposed to all gays, and anyone with AIDS/HIV in the military is because they are more likley to spread the disease in combat when blood starts flying.

I like how you can't debate on the facts, so you start calling names. Real mature.
Because all gays have AIDS. Brilliant sherlock.

Does the Center for Disease Control count as intelligent, logical, verifiable proof?
Yeah, you want me to reference where it says the largest growing group for HIV infection is white people? (comparitive to previous years)

What an interesting mix of misinformation.

Kahta, keeping gays out of the military won't keep HIV out of it. More new cases of infection are in hetero's than gays. I believe the fastest growing group is hetero females, gays are actually declining in rates of new infections. Probably because they are more aware and careful. The old "it's a gay disease" hasn't applied for over a decade.

As for the number of infections in blacks, well sub-Saharan Africa is the hotbed of the world for HIV, and most people there are black. In the rest of the world I don't think they acount for a disportionate number of cases.

Especially when you factor in socio-economic status. A much more accurate indicator of likelyhood of infection is education and poverty. The uneducated and poor have more cases of infection, Blacks do make up a larger percentage of this group than the general population, which explains the slightly higher numbers. But a middle class suburban black is no more likely than a white of the same class to be infected. Poor uneducated urban people of all ethnicities have higher than average rates of infection.

What an interesting mix of misinformation.

Kahta, keeping gays out of the military won't keep HIV out of it. More new cases of infection are in hetero's than gays. I believe the fastest growing group is hetero females, gays are actually declining in rates of new infections. Probably because they are more aware and careful. The old "it's a gay disease" hasn't applied for over a decade.

As for the number of infections in blacks, well sub-Saharan Africa is the hotbed of the world for HIV, and most people there are black. In the rest of the world I don't think they acount for a disportionate number of cases.

Especially when you factor in socio-economic status. A much more accurate indicator of likelyhood of infection is education and poverty. The uneducated and poor have more cases of infection, Blacks do make up a larger percentage of this group than the general population, which explains the slightly higher numbers. But a middle class suburban black is no more likely than a white of the same class to be infected. Poor uneducated urban people of all ethnicities have higher than average rates of infection.


They should still be kept out, because they're not conformists, homosexuality is a choice, all they need to do is think themselves straight.

They're more likley to get AIDS if they're stupid and have unprotected sex. Serves them right for fornicating anyways.

They are not uneducated, they are stupid, their IQ's are lower.

Arthur De Gobineau was a very good ethnologist, he knew what he was talking about.

They should still be kept out, because they're not conformists, homosexuality is a choice, all they need to do is think themselves straight.

They're more likley to get AIDS if they're stupid and have unprotected sex. Serves them right for fornicating anyways.

They are not uneducated, they are stupid, their IQ's are lower.

Arthur De Gobineau was a very good ethnologist, he knew what he was talking about.
Roflmao. Troll.

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bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.
I don't care much here, but either way who cares? The English Navy is a joke running on 30 year old DDs with piss poor AA defenses (proven when the Argentinians successfully killed 3 of the DDs and 1 other ship.)

Their ships don't survive exocet missile hits well. Each of the four ships took only 1 hit and sank. Compare that to the USS Stark. She was a Perry class FFG that took two exocet missiles in port side. She survived taking twice the hits as the British ships. Her crew valiantly fought fires and flooding to save her and she was brought back to service and continued to do her job until her decomissioning in 2002. Sadly, 37 brave men died in the attacks.

They should still be kept out, because they're not conformists, homosexuality is a choice, all they need to do is think themselves straight.
Hmm, years of that never worked for me.
They are not uneducated, they are stupid, their IQ's are lower.
Ooh, thank you kindly for the personal insult!
:)
I'll have you know that my IQ is greater than 150.

EDIT:
Whoops, I misread your post, Kahta. I thought you were saying that homosexuals are stupid, not blacks.
I guess you can totally ignore the second half of this post.

less than half of the HIV positive individuals in Britain are gay.

just thought i would remind everybody of that minor detail. carry on.

Hmm, years of that never worked for me.

Ooh, thank you kindly for the personal insult!
:)
I'll have you know that my IQ is greater than 150.
Imagine what it was before you were turned gay, you poor soul :(


(Because we all know just having a queer look at you makes one turn gay)

Hmm, years of that never worked for me.

Ooh, thank you kindly for the personal insult!
:)
I'll have you know that my IQ is greater than 150.I think the IQ jab was directed at blacks, the second part of my post.

Although I've never heard you discuss it now that I think about it. Your ethnicity I mean. You don't happen to be black do you Neo?

Imagine what it was before you were turned gay, you poor soul :(
Seeing as I'm transsexual as well as being attracted to the same sex, I must be doubly more stupid! (even though in general supposedly transsexuals have higher IQ, I'll see if I can find an article on it)

Since stupid would mean below average...
150 to 70 would be a change of -80.
Therefore, I must have been 160 IQ points smarter before!
That would give me an IQ greater than 310.

:D

I think the IQ jab was directed at blacks, the second part of my post.
Ah, I see that you seem to be right.
Damn, I was having fun wtih the IQ thing.
Although I've never heard you discuss it now that I think about it. Your ethnicity I mean. You don't happen to be black do you Neo?
Nope. White, mostly Irish.

That would give me an IQ greater than 310.

:D

:eek:

Seeing as I'm transsexual as well as being attracted to the same sex, I must be doubly more stupid! (even though in general supposedly transsexuals have higher IQ, I'll see if I can find an article on it)

Since stupid would mean below average...
150 to 70 would be a change of -80.
Therefore, I must have been 160 IQ points smarter before!
That would give me an IQ greater than 310.

:D
Wait, do you like your old gender or your new one? I must say that's quite a trick to be transsexual and like your new gender as well.

bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.
AIDS IS NOT A GAY DISEASE!

The highest rate of new infection is among heterosexual women.

AIDS IS NOT A GAY DISEASE!

The highest rate of new infection is among heterosexual women.
in this day and age, in view of the global pandemic of STDs facing us, i think that any person who believes AIDS is a gay disease should be required to register their genitals as a deadly weapon...their ignorance represents a clear and present danger to public health and safety.

Arthur De Gobineau was a very good ethnologist, he knew what he was talking about. Y'know, I was taking you serious until you threw this little gem in.

Too over the top.



For the rest of NS, De Gobineau came up with the model of the "Master Race" that Hitler used. His writings were the nazi gospel on race.

Wait, do you like your old gender or your new one? I must say that's quite a trick to be transsexual and like your new gender as well.
My new one.
It's not really a trick, it's just that I always was attracted to girls rather than guys.

It's the navy, for God's sake. It's not like there weren't any homosexuals in it before.

"Don't talk to me of naval tradition, its all rum, sodomy and the lash"
- Churchill

My new one.
It's not really a trick, it's just that I always was attracted to girls rather than guys.
Ah, well a trick in the sense of...interesting.

I'm impressed. Somehow you know all gays have HIV and that they will be shagging everyone they can. Well done guys. Seriously I doubt this will change anything that wasn't already happening.

Kahta: what's your opinion on lesbians being welcomed into the Royal Navy? So far you seem to have exhibited a marked fascination with the male side of things...

Kahta: what's your opinion on lesbians being welcomed into the Royal Navy? So far you seem to have exhibited a marked fascination with the male side of things...
Shh, you'll be reported for accusing him of being gay.

Actually where the hell has "recruiting Gays" come from! They are merely recruiting; the fact is that gays are now allowed to join.

Kahta: what's your opinion on lesbians being welcomed into the Royal Navy? So far you seem to have exhibited a marked fascination with the male side of things...
Since he probably still has you on his block list I think I'd better quote this ;)

Actually where the hell has "recruiting Gays" come from! They are merely recruiting; the fact is that gays are now allowed to join.
The depths of Kahta's imagination that everyone is explicitly out to do things with people he hates

Don't lesbians have a far lower HIV infection rate then the society at large? So shouldn't we be trying to stock our navy with lesbians?

Shh, you'll be reported for accusing him of being gay.

No, no, I just want to know if he shares the same opinion of lesbianism as Queen Victoria: certainly throughout this thread for all the mention he has made of them that would seem to be the case - for example he is concerned that men will join up so as to meet men, whereas the fact that women might join up to meet women doesn't seem to be a pressing concern to him.

No, no, I just want to know if he shares the same opinion of lesbianism as Queen Victoria: certainly throughout this thread for all the mention he has made of them that would seem to be the case - for example he is concerned that men will join up so as to meet men, whereas the fact that women might join up to meet women doesn't seem to be a pressing concern to him.
Well he wouldn't would he! If he is not thinking with it, he is acting directly on it's behalf!

Don't lesbians have a far lower HIV infection rate then the society at large? So shouldn't we be trying to stock our navy with lesbians?

More proof lebsians are God's chosen people. :D

Don't lesbians have a far lower HIV infection rate then the society at large? So shouldn't we be trying to stock our navy with lesbians?

Lets just step back from the precipice here: any statistical distribution of who has a higher rate of HIV infection is utterly irrelevant. What may be relevant is if a particular person in the armed forces is HIV positive or not.

Many gay men do have the HIV and the AIDs in them, correct?
higher percentage in strait affrican males ... does that mean they should not be accepted?

Perhaps Kahta feels he has a particuliar reason to fear getting AIDS from gay males. :eek:

http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,11965-4133689,00.html

bad idea. AIDS and HIV will be spread. BAD IDEA.
Congratulations: YOU'RE RETARDED

Y'know, I was taking you serious until you threw this little gem in.

Too over the top.



For the rest of NS, De Gobineau came up with the model of the "Master Race" that Hitler used. His writings were the nazi gospel on race.


The Inequality of Human Races by Count Charles Arthur De Gobineau, is possibly the greatest piece of sociological and ethnological science ever written.

The Inequality of Human Races by Count Charles Arthur De Gobineau, is possibly the greatest piece of sociological and ethnological science ever written.
FLLAAMMMEEEEEBAIIITTTT.

Its not ignorance, its the truth.

The reason I'm opposed to all gays, and anyone with AIDS/HIV in the military is because they are more likley to spread the disease in combat when blood starts flying.

I like how you can't debate on the facts, so you start calling names. Real mature.
Not all gays have aids. It's just you always hear about the ones that do have it.
Also, the reason you only hear about gay guys getting aids is because moralistic nuts are just looking for any excuse they can to try and beat down gayity.

The Inequality of Human Races by Count Charles Arthur De Gobineau, is possibly the greatest piece of sociological and ethnological science ever written.
Come give me a kiss you little flamer you :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

This whole conversation makes me sick to my stomache.

Gays will give the Royal Navy HIV? WTF? Like military boys don't catch every fucking available disease without gay help?

Anyone against their integration, you are fucktards. Bigot fucktards of the worst kind.

Gays have every right to die for your country as someone who puts their pecker elsewhere.
If you complain, please enroll and show us what a str8 man can do for their country, preferably on the front line.
To prove your heterovalour, of course.

The Inequality of Human Races by Count Charles Arthur De Gobineau, is possibly the greatest piece of sociological and ethnological science ever written.
There's so much wrong with the statement above I don't know where to begin.




So I'll just point out that there is no "ethnological science".

At least none recognized by anyone who doesn't hold the same assinine, racist beliefs that De Gobineau did.

To put it in perspective for the rest of NS, if you're interested in reading the essays VoteEarly refers to, Stormfront has a link to them on their site.

There's so much wrong with the statement above I don't know where to begin.




So I'll just point out that there is no "ethnological science".

At least none recognized by anyone who doesn't hold the same assinine, racist beliefs that De Gobineau did.

To put it in perspective for the rest of NS, if you're interested in reading the essays VoteEarly refers to, Stormfront has a link to them on their site.
Wow stormfront ... I did not know the refferences he was making but I am aware of stormfront

Wow stormfront ... I did not know the refferences he was making but I am aware of stormfrontOk, I know. I bit on on VE's little troll, you don't have to rub it in.

How do they know they're gay? How do they know they're not straight?

So I'll just point out that there is no "ethnological science".
Thanks for saying that. Someone needed to.
It's quotable.

Ok, I know. I bit on on VE's little troll, you don't have to rub it in.
I was not trying to rub it in I was really suprized he would be blatent enough to pull from stormfront (sorry did not mean to seem sarcastic)

What scares me is that Kahta actually thinks like this. There are people who actually believe statements like this. This is absolutely terrifying and I think we're taking this way too lightly.

I was not trying to rub it in I was really suprized he would be blatent enough to pull from stormfront (sorry did not mean to seem sarcastic)I actually think VE's having a little fun and wasn't serious in his original post, something I missed at first. Your post came up right after I came to this conclusion.


So naturally.........



Oh nevermind.

*wanders off muttering*

FLLAAMMMEEEEEBAIIITTTT.


How? It's a book I really like. Are you okay?

The depths of Kahta's imagination that everyone is explicitly out to do things with people he hates

Who is your ex-nation?

How? It's a book I really like. Are you okay?Ok I know you can't be serious.


White punks with shaved heads and guys in white sheets are the only reason that book hasn't been lost to the trash heap of history.

Ok I know you can't be serious.


White punks with shaved heads and guys in white sheets are the only reason that book hasn't been lost to the trash heap of history.


I wear a suit and tie and am in a school of business, I'm not some poor trash with a shaved head. I have a proper haircut and a fine upbringing with proper manners and etiquette.

Ok I know you can't be serious.


White punks with shaved heads and guys in white sheets are the only reason that book hasn't been lost to the trash heap of history.


I don't have a shaved head, those are for poor people that can't afford to keep their hair kept right. I have class, I keep my hair not too short, and not too long. I'm neither a punk, nor am I a member of the KKK, nor do I ever intend to become one, thats an organization for people that don't look at the problems, and just want to think they're "cool"

I wear a suit and tie and am in a school of business, I'm not some poor trash with a shaved head. I have a proper haircut and a fine upbringing with proper manners and etiquette.
Yet you have trouble treating others equaly ... not good manners by my book

And what is the proper haircut? I shave my head sometimes (not now but ehh) so what?

I don't have a shaved head, those are for poor people that can't afford to keep their hair kept right. I have class, I keep my hair not too short, and not too long. I'm neither a punk, nor am I a member of the KKK, nor do I ever intend to become one, thats an organization for people that don't look at the problems, and just want to think they're "cool"Thanks for the pointless information on your hairstyle.

And the little dance you did around the subject wasn't bad either.

I didn't say you were a skinhead or a member of the KKK, I said that those guys were the reason that the particular piece of drival we've been talking about is not just a footnote in an infamous and unfortunate bit of history.

But I think you know that.

I wear a suit and tie and am in a school of business, I'm not some poor trash with a shaved head. I have a proper haircut and a fine upbringing with proper manners and etiquette.You should check with Emily Post.


I don't think racist views are considered proper etiquette or good manners. ;)

I don't think racist views are considered proper etiquette or good manners. ;)

What does that have anything to do with saying "please or thank you"?

Plently of "equal opportunists" like yourself are very rude, as are most people on NS, as soon as I come around, they get rude because they don't agree with me. I always have good manners and proper etiquette, even around people I know I'm better than (whites, blacks, and mexicans, race doesn't matter I'm polite to everyone) in case you're wondering.

Yet you have trouble treating others equaly ... not good manners by my book

And what is the proper haircut? I shave my head sometimes (not now but ehh) so what?


Treating other's equally does not necesitate manners. Most people [wrongly] think that all races are equal, and all people are equal, and they have no manners, or class.

What does that have anything to do with saying "please or thank you"?

Plently of "equal opportunists" like yourself are very rude, as are most people on NS, as soon as I come around, they get rude because they don't agree with me. I always have good manners and proper etiquette, even around people I know I'm better than (whites, blacks, and mexicans, race doesn't matter I'm polite to everyone) in case you're wondering.Thanks for the info. I'll update my social register.





*Adds "arrogant" in front of "asshole" next to Kahta's name*

Treating other's equally does not necesitate manners. Most people [wrongly] think that all races are equal, and all people are equal, and they have no manners, or class.
Lets use your statement
A lot of people [wrongly] think that all races should not legaly be treated equal, and that all people are not equal, some of them also have no manners, or class

Cool, you could sign up and swab the poop decks.
:D

Hmmm… the link is to a New Zealand site.

About time is all I have to say.

I think we should have a special season of Survivor. Cast consisting of maybe VoteEarly, Commando2, JesusSaves or whoever. Maybe Wadd could join them, or maybe not. There probably isn't need for comic relief. They could whittle down the numbers by something other than voting them out. Hmmm. Just musing. And amusing myself. Sort of mental mastrubation.

I don't have time to investigate this. iLock pending Moderator review of this complaint (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=399744).

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation