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Atheists... explain yourselves!

Syawla
21-02-2005, 17:36
Explain yourselves?

Why do you prefer the words of hundreds of well educated, well qualified scientists who have spent years researching their subject have written hundreds of pages and have conducted hundreds of experiments and calculations into life?
Why do you not go to church, pay the tithe and take the word of old men wearing nice purple velvet and gold, paid for by the the tithe of course but who otherwise have nothing to gain by the promotion of their religion, to be true?
And why do you dismiss a book written two thousand years ago by men who saw a bearded guy fly up to heaven (not like that guy on speed down the road, his name's John not Jesus and Jesus never, ever took drugs) and who are not in the least bit homophobic, mysoginistic or racist?

I demand an answer! And remember, you're all going to hell you gay-loving atheists!
UpwardThrust
21-02-2005, 17:37
Explain yourselves?

Why do you prefer the words of hundreds of well educated, well qualified scientists who have spent years researching their subject have written hundreds of pages and have conducted hundreds of experiments and calculations into life?
Why do you not go to church, pay the tithe and take the word of old men wearing nice purple velvet and gold, paid for by the the tithe of course but who otherwise have nothing to gain by the promotion of their religion, to be true?
And why do you dismiss a book written two thousand years ago by men who saw a bearded guy fly up to heaven (not like that guy on speed down the road, his name's John not Jesus and Jesus never, ever took drugs) and who are not in the least bit homophobic, mysoginistic or racist?

I demand an answer! And remember, you're all going to hell you gay-loving atheists!


Cause I feel like it!
Neo-Anarchists
21-02-2005, 17:37
For a while there, I thought you were going to be serious like that guy yesterday...
Kervoskia
21-02-2005, 17:39
Explain yourselves?

Why do you prefer the words of hundreds of well educated, well qualified scientists who have spent years researching their subject have written hundreds of pages and have conducted hundreds of experiments and calculations into life?
Why do you not go to church, pay the tithe and take the word of old men wearing nice purple velvet and gold, paid for by the the tithe of course but who otherwise have nothing to gain by the promotion of their religion, to be true?
And why do you dismiss a book written two thousand years ago by men who saw a bearded guy fly up to heaven (not like that guy on speed down the road, his name's John not Jesus and Jesus never, ever took drugs) and who are not in the least bit homophobic, mysoginistic or racist?

I demand an answer! And remember, you're all going to hell you gay-loving atheists!
How dare you! I shall summon the Invisble Pink Unicorn to bring doom to your soul!Hahahaha!
Syawla
21-02-2005, 17:39
For a while there, I thought you were going to be serious like that guy yesterday...

Who says I am not?
Jordaxia
21-02-2005, 17:41
Well, I figure that since I'm going to hell anyway, I might as well do it right. no point wasting my time there plotting my vengeance on the lord among the evil plebs, when I can be living it up with the real cream of evil, eh?
Yupaenu
21-02-2005, 17:42
you think all atheists promote gays? i'm against that.
Staggering drunks
21-02-2005, 17:43
Noooo! No more religion threads! My tortured phyke hurts from it all! One half of my brain believes in god, whilst the other points out this is derived from the fear of death and wish to explain things I cant be bothered to go and look up. In the majority though, religious I am. I think. Its probable.
Khiosk
21-02-2005, 17:43
And, therefore, I'm against you.

EDIT: Not you, the homophobic guy.
Staggering drunks
21-02-2005, 17:46
And, therefore, I'm against you.

*sacrifices you to my god*
There really are advantages to this.
Neo-Anarchists
21-02-2005, 17:49
If you are reading this, you are either not logged in(do so now) or you are a visitor, leeching off this forum site for whatever scraps of entertainment you can scrounge. Good on you.

What is your sig talking about?
I'm logged in, and I can read it just fine.
Bolol
21-02-2005, 17:52
Huh...Wait...

(Finishes Orange Soda)

I think you may or may not have answered your own question Syawla.
Randomea
21-02-2005, 17:58
Because I'm such an angelic atheiest that I'm going to Limbo.
I mean who'd want to go to Purgatory, get tortured, then go up to Heaven and worship his Holiness all day?
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test2.mv?stat=1&xyz=29[/url]) Dante's Inferno Test]Level 1 - Limbo

Charon ushers you across the river Acheron, and you find yourself upon the brink of grief's abysmal valley. You are in Limbo, a place of sorrow without torment. You encounter a seven-walled castle, and within those walls you find rolling fresh meadows illuminated by the light of reason, whereabout many shades dwell. These are the virtuous pagans, the great philosophers and authors, unbaptised children, and others unfit to enter the kingdom of heaven. You share company with Caesar, Homer, Virgil, Socrates, and Aristotle. There is no punishment here, and the atmosphere is peaceful, yet sad.
Hooray for unbaptised children...ok I'm no longer a child....unbaptised teens \o/
Silly Sharks
21-02-2005, 17:59
As an agnostic, I find this thread offensive!
UpwardThrust
21-02-2005, 18:04
As an agnostic, I find this thread offensive!
As an agnostic I don’t know weather to find this thread our you offensive … there does not seem to be enough information on what offensive is and what subjective offensism is in general. So I prefer not to make a decision on your offensiveness

(bad joke if you didn’t get it)
Silly Sharks
21-02-2005, 18:06
As an agnostic I don’t know weather to find this thread our you offensive … there does not seem to be enough information on what offensive is and what subjective offensism is in general. So I prefer not to make a decision on your offensiveness

(bad joke if you didn’t get it)
I don't get it... :(
UpwardThrust
21-02-2005, 18:21
I don't get it... :(
Agnosticism the idea of not knowing not being able to prove a diety … I made a joke about not being able to prove your offensiveness or offensiveness in general
Comedy by comparison
Silly Sharks
21-02-2005, 18:22
Agnosticism the idea of not knowing not being able to prove a diety … I made a joke about not being able to prove your offensiveness or offensiveness in general
Comedy by comparison
Ohh... right...
Syawla
21-02-2005, 18:27
Because I'm such an angelic atheiest that I'm going to Limbo.
I mean who'd want to go to Purgatory, get tortured, then go up to Heaven and worship his Holiness all day?

Hooray for unbaptised children...ok I'm no longer a child....unbaptised teens \o/

I love that book but not quite as much as The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli.
Nasopotomia
21-02-2005, 18:34
'Cos all the really cool people go to hell. Heaven has none of the best bands, none of the great composers, no decent artists, no drugs, drink or fornication, no violent all-night parties, no drinking till you throw up in you mate's hat and then laughing till you're sick again when he puts it on....

Hell, meanwhile, has all the greats of rock 'n' roll, it's got every artist since bloody Michealangelo (he's probably there, actually, the pooftah), the crack is brought round free by nubile nekkid sixteen-year-old wenches....

So, who's with me!?
Syawla
21-02-2005, 18:37
'Cos all the really cool people go to hell. Heaven has none of the best bands, none of the great composers, no decent artists, no drugs, drink or fornication, no violent all-night parties, no drinking till you throw up in you mate's hat and then laughing till you're sick again when he puts it on....

Hell, meanwhile, has all the greats of rock 'n' roll, it's got every artist since bloody Michealangelo (he's probably there, actually, the pooftah), the crack is brought round free by nubile nekkid sixteen-year-old wenches....

So, who's with me!?

Fucking eh!
Atheistic Might
21-02-2005, 19:23
I would rather enjoy myself now then conform to some arbitrary standards in the hope of life after death. If there is nothing after, I'm well-prepared, and have no regrets.
Randomea
21-02-2005, 20:41
'Cos all the really cool people go to hell. Heaven has none of the best bands, none of the great composers, no decent artists, no drugs, drink or fornication, no violent all-night parties, no drinking till you throw up in you mate's hat and then laughing till you're sick again when he puts it on....

Hell, meanwhile, has all the greats of rock 'n' roll, it's got every artist since bloody Michealangelo (he's probably there, actually, the pooftah), the crack is brought round free by nubile nekkid sixteen-year-old wenches....

So, who's with me!?

Actually sex is 'good' as long as it's heterosexual with your spouse that you married once.
Scottrick
21-02-2005, 20:55
As an agnostic I don’t know weather to find this thread our you offensive … there does not seem to be enough information on what offensive is and what subjective offensism is in general. So I prefer not to make a decision on your offensiveness

(bad joke if you didn’t get it)

I've always said there's nothing an agnostic can't do if he really doesn't know whether he believes in anyhting or not.
Ashmoria
21-02-2005, 21:01
well one day i sat down and did the calculation of that whole "144000 people getting into heaven" thing. i realized that either the spots are all already taken or the standards are SO high that st thomas aquinas may not get in let alone a common sinner like me.

so i cut my losses and became an atheist. all that extra sleep on sunday mornings has done my overall mood a world of good.
Cressland
21-02-2005, 21:09
Explain yourselves?

Why do you prefer the words of hundreds of well educated, well qualified scientists who have spent years researching their subject have written hundreds of pages and have conducted hundreds of experiments and calculations into life?
Why do you not go to church, pay the tithe and take the word of old men wearing nice purple velvet and gold, paid for by the the tithe of course but who otherwise have nothing to gain by the promotion of their religion, to be true?
And why do you dismiss a book written two thousand years ago by men who saw a bearded guy fly up to heaven (not like that guy on speed down the road, his name's John not Jesus and Jesus never, ever took drugs) and who are not in the least bit homophobic, mysoginistic or racist?

I demand an answer! And remember, you're all going to hell you gay-loving atheists!

Jesus never took drugs? alcohol is a drug, man.....or did the whole water into wine not happen?

oh also, sorry for tolerating homosexual people, it's just that, you see, I don't like to dismiss other people just because they're not like me...to me that seems quite unethical.
Mt-Tau
21-02-2005, 21:10
Explain yourselves?

Why do you prefer the words of hundreds of well educated, well qualified scientists who have spent years researching their subject have written hundreds of pages and have conducted hundreds of experiments and calculations into life?
Why do you not go to church, pay the tithe and take the word of old men wearing nice purple velvet and gold, paid for by the the tithe of course but who otherwise have nothing to gain by the promotion of their religion, to be true?
And why do you dismiss a book written two thousand years ago by men who saw a bearded guy fly up to heaven (not like that guy on speed down the road, his name's John not Jesus and Jesus never, ever took drugs) and who are not in the least bit homophobic, mysoginistic or racist?

I demand an answer! And remember, you're all going to hell you gay-loving atheists!

LMAO! Syawla, you are one funny person!
Mt-Tau
21-02-2005, 21:12
Actually sex is 'good' as long as it's heterosexual with your spouse that you married once.

I disagree, I had some sex the other night and it WAS good! :fluffle:
Drunk commies
21-02-2005, 21:13
God commanded me to be an atheist. Who am I to argue?
The Mycon
21-02-2005, 21:16
oh also, sorry for tolerating homosexual people, it's just that, you see, I don't like to dismiss other people just because they're not like me...to me that seems quite unethical.As a rapid homophobe, I am offended by your classification of homosexuals as people, when in fact, as all right thinking people know, they are merely an advanced form of lichen.
Saarin Jargo
21-02-2005, 21:17
hmm... I was just thinking about this today. Here's what I came up with.
Given:
- no empirical evidence of God (because there is no scientific evidence AND most religions even state themselves that evidence isn't neccessary, as only faith is what's important.

- no empirical evidence denying the existence of god

Thus:
- One can assume something to be false or a metaphysical concept with no bearing on reality until proven otherwise. I fit in this catagory and thus believe god does not exist. This is a logical and rational option.

- One can assume everything unprovable to be true, even if contradictory to other unprovable things. Thus, the statements: All invisible magical chipmunks are green and all invisible magical chipmunks are not green are both true. This is rational, but not logical.

- One could also only assume some unprovable things to be true. Invisible chipmunks are green, but not invisible chipmunks are not green. Well, this is certainly allowed, but why would you believe in god but not the infinite other combinations of unprovable/falsifiable things that could or could not exist. Thus, while this route may be logical, it isn't rational.

Now, on a personal note, if there is a God, why would he/she/it make/allow me think in such a way as to never rationalize him/her/it. Free will? I don't play that. Can't rationalize god? I don't play that either. You may. I don't. Your god made me that way. Sorry.

Also, some may take the Kirkengaard arguement and say that you can't rationalize god. Well, if that's the case, I'll never find god, so what's it matter if I try or not.
The Mighty Khan
22-02-2005, 21:14
Why do so many atheists feel a need to cram their beliefs down our throats? You do what works for you, and I'll do what works for me. If I don't try to convert you, do me the same service. God, you people act so much like a religion, sometimes I wonder why you don't just build a church and get on with it. STOP FLAMING PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS STUFF! If you want to have a rational discussion, fine, but threads like this are a waste of everyone's time. BUGGER OFF! :headbang:
BackwoodsSquatches
22-02-2005, 21:28
Why do so many atheists feel a need to cram their beliefs down our throats? You do what works for you, and I'll do what works for me. If I don't try to convert you, do me the same service. God, you people act so much like a religion, sometimes I wonder why you don't just build a church and get on with it. STOP FLAMING PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS STUFF! If you want to have a rational discussion, fine, but threads like this are a waste of everyone's time. BUGGER OFF! :headbang:


Atheists dont knock on your door at 7:00 am, wondering if they can come in and talk you about the lack of God.

Now on to the real business.

There is no God for the following reasons:

Christians believe that man was created in God's image.
Now they would like to believe that means that God looks like us, but thats not what that saying probably means.

The truth is that the "Created in God's image" means that God is stupid,petty, angry, selfish, crude, hateful, and above all frightened.

Because thats exactly how people are.

Look at the world around you.
So much hate, so much blatant, stinking ignorance, that it chokes the very air.
You have nations who have been killing each other for so long, that neither side remembers why they hated each other in the first place.
You have people who abuse their own children, or thier own spouse.
You have poweful world leaders who wage wars in the name of profit.
Major corporations who employ children to work like slaves in sweat shop conditions to make shirts that you and I wear, everyday.

So if we are truly created in God's image then God is just as stupid and petty as the rest of us, and cannot adhere to the christian ideals that created him...

...and therefore, does not exist.
Nickmasykstan
22-02-2005, 21:34
All valid points. However I'll shorten it into something EVERYONE can understand, and has the time to read:

There better not be a God, or I'm screwed.
Atheistic Might
22-02-2005, 23:39
Why don't atheists have a church? We could worship...um...Charles Darwin! That is it! We could have a gigantic statue in his likeness, and build an alter in front of it on which to sacrifice small animals.

Or we could just realize how silly all that is and go home...
Yupaenu
22-02-2005, 23:43
Why do so many atheists feel a need to cram their beliefs down our throats? You do what works for you, and I'll do what works for me. If I don't try to convert you, do me the same service. God, you people act so much like a religion, sometimes I wonder why you don't just build a church and get on with it.

i'm atheist and got a religion. don't try to convert other people to it, just point facts that there is no god.