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Non-comformists Unite!

Shayde
20-02-2005, 21:18
heh lol this'll be a hoot
Super-power
20-02-2005, 21:19
Ah, but as a non-conformist you are conforming to non-conformist ideology!
Shayde
20-02-2005, 21:21
Lol
Saxnot
20-02-2005, 21:21
Remember that redy yellow flames idiot a while back? That was a laugh.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-02-2005, 21:22
Ah, but as a non-conformist you are conforming to non-conformist ideology!

Not necessarily true. A true nonconformist may seem to conform quite often. But in reality that's only because he happens to agree with the masses. A true non-conformist does as his personal faith directs, and not as the social faith directs.
Nadkor
20-02-2005, 21:24
Not necessarily true. A true nonconformist may seem to conform quite often. But in reality that's only because he happens to agree with the masses. A true non-conformist does as his personal faith directs, and not as the social faith directs.
well if thats the definition then count me in
Lunatic Goofballs
20-02-2005, 21:26
Excellent. :) Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for my naked stroll around the block. :)
Keruvalia
20-02-2005, 21:28
I have a red pencil box.
Please fondle my buttocks.
Thank you.
Wedrinkandwesing
20-02-2005, 21:28
Not necessarily true. A true nonconformist may seem to conform quite often. But in reality that's only because he happens to agree with the masses. A true non-conformist does as his personal faith directs, and not as the social faith directs.

however, if someone adopts another's personal faith then they are conforming, considering that no one is truly 100 percent unique, everyone conforms everyday.
Nadkor
20-02-2005, 21:32
however, if someone adopts another's personal faith then they are conforming, considering that no one is truly 100 percent unique, everyone conforms everyday.
but if they adopt that faith because they truly believe it, not because society says they should, then thats not the same thing
Lunatic Goofballs
20-02-2005, 21:32
however, if someone adopts another's personal faith then they are conforming, considering that no one is truly 100 percent unique, everyone conforms everyday.

A faith shared by more than one person is a social faith. A nonconformist would always question everything. He may agree, but he still questions.

Of course, you are correct. nobody can question EVERYTHING. But I think that one can question enough to earn the title.
Kroblexskij
20-02-2005, 21:32
anarchists of the world, unite
Texan Hotrodders
20-02-2005, 21:34
Of course, you are correct. nobody can question EVERYTHING. But I think that one can question enough to earn the title.

Why do you say that?
Lunatic Goofballs
20-02-2005, 21:38
Why do you say that?
Because there are some risks we won't take. We accept the majority belief for our supposed safety.

Death, for instance. How do we KNOW we'll die? I mean, just because everyone else has, doesn't really prove a damn thing, now does it? So why are we so careful to avoid it?
Texan Hotrodders
20-02-2005, 21:41
Because there are some risks we won't take. We accept the majority belief for our supposed safety.

Death, for instance. How do we KNOW we'll die? I mean, just because everyone else has, doesn't really prove a damn thing, now does it? So why are we so careful to avoid it?

Why indeed?
Intellipeace
20-02-2005, 21:48
Ah, but as a non-conformist you are conforming to non-conformist ideology!
like goths and most "hippies" these days. they do it cause they like the look.
Jingoistic Nomads
20-02-2005, 22:06
Sorry to break it to all of you but non-conformity is a myth. Every single person conforms to the will of society every single day. Even people who claim to be "punks" or "rebels" only rebell in ways that society has pre-approved. It is acceptable to spike your hair or wear a studded jacket. Those are acceptable ways of rebelling. All those people who believe you are an individual, you are wrong. All of us are completely dependent upon society. We are born into, we live in it and we will all die in it. There is no way out. Don't take me the wrong way I am not saying that everyone is a mindless slave, but neither are we capable of complete independence. We all do what we think is best. We are unique because we don't always agree but don't think you are not heavily influenced in all your decisions.
Jokath
20-02-2005, 22:21
Keruvalia didn't your sig use to say Muslim libertarian communist? i always found that one kind of funny.
Free Soviets
20-02-2005, 22:27
anarchists of the world, unite

we're working on it
Free Soviets
20-02-2005, 22:29
Sorry to break it to all of you but non-conformity is a myth. Every single person conforms to the will of society every single day. Even people who claim to be "punks" or "rebels" only rebell in ways that society has pre-approved. It is acceptable to spike your hair or wear a studded jacket. Those are acceptable ways of rebelling.

would you deny that there are social costs to the 'rebelee' participating in these 'socially acceptable' acts of rebellion?
Keruvalia
20-02-2005, 22:32
Keruvalia didn't your sig use to say Muslim libertarian communist? i always found that one kind of funny.

It used to say that further probing may have revealed me to be a Libertarian Communist, but it was replaced by the line in red. I figure being proven on Simmingpool's painstakingly made NS political compass chart that I am NS's most socially libertarian should be enough to show that I am, in fact, a Libertarian Communist ... however, I vote Progressive Democrat.

Either way, I'm still Muslim.
Rockness
20-02-2005, 22:38
Whatever... I'll do what I damn well please. Even if that usally means agreeing with at least one other person.

To paradoxically quote Zack de la Rocha: "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me"

Unless I agree with it. Like that. Nyes....
Neo-Anarchists
20-02-2005, 22:38
Sorry to break it to all of you but non-conformity is a myth. Every single person conforms to the will of society every single day. Even people who claim to be "punks" or "rebels" only rebell in ways that society has pre-approved.
I seriously doubt what I do/plan to do is societally accepted.
Keruvalia
20-02-2005, 22:40
I seriously doubt what I do/plan to do is societally accepted.

Depends on the society. :)
Neo-Anarchists
20-02-2005, 22:56
Depends on the society. :)
Well, my current plan for survival involves mostly leeching off the government to survive. I can't actually work, which is a huge problem. So I must turn to milking every drop of cash I can get from our government and whoever else has money to spare.