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This is neat. Coulter asserts that Canada, who "used to be a good ally" helped us in war efforts such as Vietnam. Her interviewer corrects her assertion, stating that Canada never committed troops to Vietnam, and Coulter's point is torn to shreds.

Check it out!

No, if I remember correctly, Canada did have a regiment there.

People listen to this bitch?

Does this surprise anyone?

Show of hands.

Anyone! You in the back...

...sigh, yes you may use the lavatory.

Anyone else?

Ann Coulter can't be real. I think she's a character she plays. Like Morton Downey Jr.

Coulter likes to re-write history; she claims that Joe McCarthy was shut down by the left wing, when it was actually President Eisenhower who pushed to get the McCarthy hearings televised so the public could see Joe's tactics, and it was the Republican Senate that shut McCarthy down in the censure investigation. in her book "Treason" she also repeatedly states that the term "McCarthyism" is a made-up liberal buzzword, and "'McCarthyism' never existed," despite the fact that it was the title of McCarthy's own book.

i know lots of people call Coulter "the leading right-wing pundit" of our time, and if that's the case then...damn. poor right wing. she's not even a good writer, for crying out loud. she just regurgitates the same soundbites than kids in my freshman civics class used to spout, and she doesn't seem to much mind if her claims match up with reality at all.

Im interested to just stick around and see what really happened.

No, if I remember correctly, Canada did have a regiment there.

You remember wrong. There were Canadians that joined the U.S. army to fight in Vietnam, but there was no Canadian regiment.

No, if I remember correctly, Canada did have a regiment there.
Proof please

Ann Coulter stirs up controversy... she's a talking head, not a pundit - not even a professional! But by stirring up controversy, she acquires fame and money. Like the fame [read:infamy] that we're attributing to her now.

This is a problem all over the political spectrum, methinks, in America. People prefer screaming insults to intelligent discourse. Ann Coulter delivers.

You remember wrong. There were Canadians that joined the U.S. army to fight in Vietnam, but there was no Canadian regiment.
Wait...Umm...Yes! Now I remember. It was Korea, not Vietnam. I apologize for the mistake.

Ann Coulter stirs up controversy... she's a talking head, not a pundit

I see you accidentally left the "z" off the end.

if I had a drink every time Coulter made a fool of herself< i'm sure I would have drunken myself into a coma long ago

Coulter is to free speech what the Washington sniper was to firearms legality.

Coulter is to free speech what the Washington sniper was to firearms legality.

YAY! :D

LMFAO

This is the difference between a television JOURNALIST, i.e. someone like Bob McKeown, who knows pesky little details like FACTS, and an opinionated talking head, i.e. someone like Ann Coulter, who knows how to wear makeup and shout others down.

I hope CBC does an entire series on the pinheads over at FoxNews. I hope more Americans can watch the Fifth Estate on CBC in future. You'd find it illuminating.

Saying that "Coulter makes a fool of herself" is rather like saying that water is wet. :D

http://www.whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/ann_coulter_brownshirt.asp

Nothing says 'fair and balanced' quite like 'ignorant and vapid'...

Yes, she was wrong in stating that Canada sent troops. But, despite folks' rabid attacks on her, her basic premise that Canada supported the US is correct.

For an excellent, though brief, article on the Canadian effort, see: http://www.vwam.com/vets/allies/canadians.html

I spent 2 tours in Viet Nam ('67-'68 and '70-'71) and have my own opinion of whether we should have been there and how the war was directed. Since you asked, I'll tell it:

Prior to WWII, Ho Chi Minh was a great admirer of the United States. He beleived that the American Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were remarkable documents. He wanted to model the government of Viet Nam after the principles of the US founders.

Unfortunately, the US made a huge and stupid mistake -- it backed the French (can you believe it) in re-establishing its colony in Viet Nam. This left the Vietnamese with no real choice -- either be slaves to France or seek help from China and Russia. So, Ho Chi Minh did what every patriot would do -- he sought help (like the American colonists did from France 200+ years ago) in overthrowing the French Empire. By the time the US figured out that the French were losing Viet Nam to the communists, the pooch had been screwed. The US then had to make a strategic choice to oppose Russian and Chinese global expansion in Viet Nam or to fight it.

Whether the US decision to clean up the mess the French made was right or wrong is open to debated: just what would have happened if we had stayed out? I can tell you one thing: Barry Goldwater was right -- we should have either made North Viet Nam a parking lot, or we should have stayed the hell out. I think Barry's choice would have been to stay out.

So, by pure chance, does anyone happen to know her age?

My current guess is that she's a 30,000 year old vampire who bathes in the blood of virgins.

So, by pure chance, does anyone happen to know her age?

My current guess is that she's a 30,000 year old vampire who bathes in the blood of virgins.

No doubt. She only allows virgin blood, I'm sure.

No, if I remember correctly, Canada did have a regiment there.

No, they did not.

S. Korea, Australia, Thailand, New Zealand, and the Philippines did, though. At the peak of the war, there were 47,000 Koreans, over 7,500 Aussies, 11,000 Thai, about 1,000 New Zealanders, and between 1,500 and 2,000 Filipino 'combat engineers.' Moreover, Taiwan sent repairmen and military advisors, nations like Germany sent medical aid, and Rhodesia offered to send troops. However, Canada was 100% neutral.

Yes, she was wrong in stating that Canada sent troops. But, despite folks' rabid attacks on her, her basic premise that Canada supported the US is correct.

For an excellent, though brief, article on the Canadian effort, see: http://www.vwam.com/vets/allies/canadians.html

I spent 2 tours in Viet Nam ('67-'68 and '70-'71) and have my own opinion of whether we should have been there and how the war was directed. Since you asked, I'll tell it:

Prior to WWII, Ho Chi Minh was a great admirer of the United States. He beleived that the American Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were remarkable documents. He wanted to model the government of Viet Nam after the principles of the US founders.

Unfortunately, the US made a huge and stupid mistake -- it backed the French (can you believe it) in re-establishing its colony in Viet Nam. This left the Vietnamese with no real choice -- either be slaves to France or seek help from China and Russia. So, Ho Chi Minh did what every patriot would do -- he sought help (like the American colonists did from France 200+ years ago) in overthrowing the French Empire. By the time the US figured out that the French were losing Viet Nam to the communists, the pooch had been screwed. The US then had to make a strategic choice to oppose Russian and Chinese global expansion in Viet Nam or to fight it.

Whether the US decision to clean up the mess the French made was right or wrong is open to debated: just what would have happened if we had stayed out? I can tell you one thing: Barry Goldwater was right -- we should have either made North Viet Nam a parking lot, or we should have stayed the hell out. I think Barry's choice would have been to stay out.

The U.S. supported the Vietnamese communists during World War II and during the French-Indochina War (although they also supported the French). And some patriot Ho was. Burying alive thousands of political rivals so only their heads were above ground, and then driving harrows across the field, tearing apart their heads; killing 5% of the population of each village in the North; persecuting landowners, intellectuals, and Christians; etc.

No, they did not.

S. Korea, Australia, Thailand, New Zealand, and the Philippines did, though. At the peak of the war, there were 47,000 Koreans, over 7,500 Aussies, 11,000 Thai, about 1,000 New Zealanders, and between 1,500 and 2,000 Filipino 'combat engineers.' Moreover, Taiwan sent repairmen and military advisors, nations like Germany sent medical aid, and Rhodesia offered to send troops. However, Canada was 100% neutral.

Correct. Canada the nation was neutral, and as I'm sure everyone remembers, allowed US draft dodgers over the border in droves.

However the walking war encyclopedia sitting behind me tells me that more than 10,000 Canadians went south to join up and fight in Viet Nam. There is an excellent book called Cross-Border Warriors that explores the history of Canadians and Americans that have crossed the border to fight in each other's armies.

Coulter is sincerely a socially and intellectual retard.

Hasn't she learned about a certain little word called "research". Especially when going up against an expert.

Then again, I wonder if one of her workers just hasn't gotten sick of her and fed her incorrect facts to use to show everyone just how much of a true republican bimbo she is.

No, they did not.

S. Korea, Australia, Thailand, New Zealand, and the Philippines did, though. At the peak of the war, there were 47,000 Koreans, over 7,500 Aussies, 11,000 Thai, about 1,000 New Zealanders, and between 1,500 and 2,000 Filipino 'combat engineers.' Moreover, Taiwan sent repairmen and military advisors, nations like Germany sent medical aid, and Rhodesia offered to send troops. However, Canada was 100% neutral.
RB, I already corrected myself.

However the walking war encyclopedia sitting behind me tells me that more than 10,000 Canadians went south to join up and fight in Viet Nam. There is an excellent book called Cross-Border Warriors that explores the history of Canadians and Americans that have crossed the border to fight in each other's armies.
It's very interesting how people cross borders just to fight somebody else's wars sometimes. People from the US even crossed the Mexican border to fight in the Mexican revolution (doesn't matter what side, it was pretty much a free for all) and some, during the Mexican-American war, crossed over to the Mexican side to fight against their old friends.

Ann Coulter stirs up controversy... she's a talking head, not a pundit - not even a professional! But by stirring up controversy, she acquires fame and money. Like the fame [read:infamy] that we're attributing to her now.

This is a problem all over the political spectrum, methinks, in America. People prefer screaming insults to intelligent discourse. Ann Coulter delivers.

I can barely even stand many websites that I used to love because they have turned into insult fests they are blends of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter with nothing to add but personal attacks if they disagree with you then when you leave or will not answer due to disliking conflict they claim victory. Excellent observation.

The U.S. supported the Vietnamese communists during World War II and during the French-Indochina War (although they also supported the French). And some patriot Ho was. Burying alive thousands of political rivals so only their heads were above ground, and then driving harrows across the field, tearing apart their heads; killing 5% of the population of each village in the North; persecuting landowners, intellectuals, and Christians; etc.


I didn't say he was a compassionate conservative.

I didn't say he was a compassionate conservative.

The hell's that supposed to mean?

It's very interesting how people cross borders just to fight somebody else's wars sometimes. People from the US even crossed the Mexican border to fight in the Mexican revolution (doesn't matter what side, it was pretty much a free for all) and some, during the Mexican-American war, crossed over to the Mexican side to fight against their old friends.

Yup. Some Canadians fought during the American Civil War too. On both North and South sides.

Coulter is sincerely a socially and intellectual retard.

Hasn't she learned about a certain little word called "research". Especially when going up against an expert.

Then again, I wonder if one of her workers just hasn't gotten sick of her and fed her incorrect facts to use to show everyone just how much of a true republican bimbo she is.

I'm sure she has. She'd probably define it as the means by which liberals brainwash readers into believing their lies by unethically saying only whatever happens to be true rather than couragously leading the reading and viewing public to the correct opinions by telling those truths that may be less obvious only by dint of being patently false.

who is that woman?

who is that woman?


the republican michael moore.

but with less credibility

The hell's that supposed to mean?

Ho was intolerant of his internal opposition. But, he was for Viet Nam against any foreign oppressor. He was willing to fight against overwhelming external forces for the sake of Viet Nam's independendence from them. That's all I meant by calling him a patriot.

Does anyone know what documentary this is from?

the republican michael moore.

but with less credibility

Ah, ok...I was wondering why everone knew her and had an opinion.
She doesn't sound very intelligent. Though, I admit this footage is the only time I've heard her speak.

Ah, ok...I was wondering why everone knew her and had an opinion.
She doesn't sound very intelligent. Though, I admit this footage is the only time I've heard her speak.

I doesn't get much better trust me.

I suggest downloading (or buying) Al Franken's "Lies and the Lying Liars That Tell Them". Franken hates Coulter with a passion.

I downloaded the audio book.

Ann Coulter is primarily remarkable because of her outrageous opinions [or words, anyway]. She has been quoted as saying that being a liberal was equivalent to being a traitor; the fact that she hates "liberalism" and the Democratic so much, while seeming to think that the Republican party and conservatives can do no harm, shows that she truly is a partisan hack with no politcal education.

I leave you with this:

"We should invade their [Muslim] countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." -- Ann Coulter, compassionate conservative.

Does anyone know what documentary this is from?

Bob McKeown's style is unmistakable to any Canadian - he's been one of the investigative journalists working on 'The Fifth Estate' at CBC for God knows how many years now.

This is an excerpt from an episode of 'The Fifth Estate' which aired earlier this year - one which I'm kicking myself for having missed. I couldn't tell you the name of the specific episode, but TFE took on the issue of the 'fair and balanced' reporting on FoxNews - timely considering FN's recent entry into Canadian broadcasting.

Much was made of Coulter and Bill Reilly, apparently. TFE's report so irked the talking heads at FoxNews that Reilly supposedly took the opportunity to roast the CBC on a spit of injured pride and yep, you guessed it, even more kneejerk rightwing reactionary vitriol and drool than usual.

Perhaps if you went to www.cbc.ca and poked around a bit, you'd find the info you're looking for. I'm just hoping it gets rebroadcast before summer.