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cool. i like him slightly more now. maybe he should have kept smoking it and maybe he wouldn't be such a warmonger :)

So?

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He never said he smoked it. He said “I wouldn’t answer the marijuana questions,” he said, according to the Times. “You know why? Because I don’t want some little kid doing what I tried.”

He was referring to Algore, not himself.

he probably smoked it. Thats why he knows so much about it.

And come on like most of the US hasn't already smoked it.


MAKE IT LEGAL ALREADY!!

he probably smoked it. Thats why he knows so much about it.

And come on like most of the US hasn't already smoked it.


MAKE IT LEGAL ALREADY!!

Yes, and since Clinton was a coke fiend, we should legalize it as well.

he probably smoked it. Thats why he knows so much about it.

And come on like most of the US hasn't already smoked it.


MAKE IT LEGAL ALREADY!!

I haven't smoked it. And if Pepe Dominguez isn't an ideal role model for today's youth, no one is. Pot is a one-way street to Losertown.

I haven't smoked it. And if Pepe Dominguez isn't an ideal role model for today's youth, no one is. Pot is a one-way street to Losertown.

Yes and it's also a one-way ticket to this! (http://www.glennbeck.com/picoftheday/08-23-04-pod.jpg)

Please note the corn kernal teeth.

Yes and it's also a one-way ticket to this! (http://www.glennbeck.com/picoftheday/08-23-04-pod.jpg)

Please note the corn kernal teeth.

Damn. That kinda tooth-neglect takes real effort. And I know something about tooth-neglect, too.

So did John Kerry, and like 90% of the people who went to college in the 60's and 70's...

That's why all our modern politicians suck. The Marijuana corrupted them.

I haven't smoked it. And if Pepe Dominguez isn't an ideal role model for today's youth, no one is. Pot is a one-way street to Losertown.

One of my good friends is third in her class and smokes pot casually, there's a large difference between marijuana use, and marijuana abuse. Not all marijuana use is a ticket to "lostertown" My dad was also a huge pothead as a kid, and now has a wife and kids, is completely straight-edge, and makes 95 thousand a year.

One of my good friends is third in her class and smokes pot casually, there's a large difference between marijuana use, and marijuana abuse. Not all marijuana use is a ticket to "lostertown" My dad was also a huge pothead as a kid, and now has a wife and kids, is completely straight-edge, and makes 95 thousand a year.

Friends don't let friends do drugs.

Thus, you are not a good friend.

We must burn you at the stake!

I hope I am never stupid enough to be talked into smoking pot...

another case solved, slaps hands together

Eh, so what? He stopped before it became a problem for him. That's a good thing. 'sides, he's right about kids thinking pot is OK just because the President smoked in his youthful days.

So?


good track record for a guy who got vote in on 'moral values'

This is interesting how you have responded to Bush smoking pot. Like its some evil thing.
It is interesting this comes out just when I have finished reading a scientific article on marijuana that says that the human brain produces its own marijuana and the stuff from the plant fits in to the receptacles that are designed to receive the marijuana like hormones that our brains produce. Unfortunately Marijuana is not targetable, at least not yet. That explains its effects. But if you could target it, you could cure certain ailments, including Alzheimers.
Check the December 2004 issue of Scientific American.
These chemicals produced by the brain are responsible for our ability to lose our phobias. If you don't have the receptors, you can't lose your phobias and you will not be able to get past traumatic experiences or breakups.
The chemicals also determine which food you find desirable.

Hence, if I get in the Senate, I will seek to legalize pot. Or at least make it where the states have the final say. Marijuana is a state issue not a federal one.

the mag's website is a pay site. Good thing I got the mag right here in front of me.

So?
So neo-conservative fundies haven't any ground anymore to poke fun at Clinton's THC-induced tendencies. You know, since your President (who was chosen by God Himself based on his moral values, apparently) smokes the dank.

And your point is...?

Yes, and since Clinton was a coke fiend, we should legalize it as well.

Um, no. Clinton smoked weed. Richard Mellon Scaife made up stories about Clinton smuggling coke. It presented itself as a useful fiction because Bush senior smuggled coke and so to accuse Clinton of it is a twofer. It makes the whole idea of a president smuggling coke laughable and turns people against Clinton.

As far as using it, that was just Bush Jr.

But yes, we should legalize both so that cocaine will stop funding Columbian drug lords and marijuana will stop funding American prison lords.

he was also put in jail for using crack.

Big f---in deal. Which of us has not done stupid crap in our adolescence? Who the heck cares, whether it's George Bush, Bill Clinton, or your grandmother's sister-in-law? Can anyone, anyone! - please tell me how this is important in any way, shape, or form?

It's not!

He did? Wow, my estimation of him...has not changed in the slightest.

Take from that what you will.

good track record for a guy who got vote in on 'moral values'

Because a guy who got voted in on moral values needs to be absolutely perfect, right?

Hence, if I get in the Senate, I will seek to legalize pot. Or at least make it where the states have the final say. Marijuana is a state issue not a federal one.

The place you have to get is the Supreme Court. Antonin Schalia has this retarded interpretation of Congress's ability to pass laws regulating interstate trade. He says that just because something is made in one state to be sold in another that that does not make it a matter of interstate trade. He says that growing marijuana in your own house IS a matter of interstate trade because you're then NOT buying it from another state or perhaps more likely to buy twinkies that are produced in another state.

For Congress to pass such laws is unconstitutional but the Justices don't care. If you're the sort of mindless conservative that believes every contradictory thing that conservative political figures tell you then please make note that when the Federal government wanted to outlaw alchohol they had to amend the constitution to give them the power to do it. No such amendment has ever been passed regarding other chemicals.

Weed rules. I'm so glad I'm Canadian and our laws aren't as shitty as those of the US.

All you who are shitting on pot are ignorant. You should try it before you go on making an ass of yourself.

I used to be the same way back when I was all straight edge and shit. If you try it, I'm sure your opinion would change.

So neo-conservative fundies haven't any ground anymore to poke fun at Clinton's THC-induced tendencies. You know, since your President (who was chosen by God Himself based on his moral values, apparently) smokes the dank.

My President? :confused: Don't have one, I live in a coutry without one ;)

Is this supposed to be news? We all know he did drugs back before he became a brain washed conservative yuppy.

Could this be the answer? Could it be that the entire reason for invading the Persian Gulf was to secure the worlds largest supply of doner kebabs :eek: !

Munchies can take you like that, George. Just roll up another and you'll soon settle for tagliatelle and custard like the rest of us.

Could this be the answer? Could it be that the entire reason for invading the Persian Gulf was to secure the worlds largest supply of doner kebabs :eek: !

Munchies can take you like that, George. Just roll up another and you'll soon settle for tagliatelle and custard like the rest of us.

:D

Never tried tagiatelle and custard though. I usually settle for toast with mayonaise and pepper.

Main active ingredient is THC. Took a while to find the receptor to THC was binding in the brain. But it doesn't just bind in the brain, it attachs to spinal cord too. The receptor for THC is called CB1. It was found by using a radioactive tag to locate it.
It has already been cloned in the lab. CB1 is located in the brain and spinal cord. The other receptor CB2 is located outside the brain and spinal cord and operates only in the immune system.
CB1 is one of the most abundant receptors in the brain. The highest densities aer in the cerebral cortex, hippocampus, hypothalamus, cerebellum, basal ganglia, brain stem, spinal chord, and the amygdala.
The distribution of CB1 explains marijuana's various effects. The physchoactive properties of marijuana come from its action on the cerebral cortex. Memory impairment is caused by its action in hippocampus, which is vital to memory formation. Motor dysfuntion is caused when it acts on the motor control centers of the brain. In the brain stem and spinal cord, it causes a reduction of pain throughout the body. The brain stem is also where the vomit reflex is controlled. Hypothalumus controls appetite and the amydala is responsible for your emotions. So if someone has mood swings and they've been smoking pot, its because the marijuana has binded with their amygdala and thrown their emotional balance out of wack.

However, CB1 occurs only on certain neurons and only in specific positions on those neurons. It also sits near the synapse.

In 1992 a fatty acid was discovered in the brain, that does bind to CB1 and biochemically similar to THC but is produced in the brain. The substance was called ananda. Another one, 2-AG is even more abundant than ananda. They form a vital part of body's cellular communications system.
The discovery of these brain produced chemicals proved once and for all that communication among brain cells was two way. For over a hundred years it was assumed that such communication was only one way.
2-AG is the retrograde signal that disproved the one way theory.
Experiments showed that mice without the receptors are incapable of DSI (what makes us get over fears and the like).
These endocannabinoids are fat soluble substances and hence do not breakdown very fast. Temporarily reducing inhibition as the substances do, enhances long term potentiation which is the process by which info is stored through the strengthening of synapses. Such storage and info transfer uses only a few groups of neurons rather than a whole region of the brian. And endocannobinoids are well suited for actinging on these small groups of neurons.
DSI (depolarization induced suppression of inhibition), is a short lived local effect however. It allows individual neurons to disconnect breifly to store and encode information.
The slight motor dysfunction is caused when: the endocannabinoids lock onto CB1 and in some cases block the presynaptic cells from releasing excitatory neurotransmitters.Endocannabinoids located on excitatory nerve terminals in the cerebellum affect coordinate motor control and sensory integration. This also explains the illusions some people have when they smoke pot.
In another experiment, it was found that mice that don't have the receptors, while being able to learn fear like any other mouse, are unable to unlearn it.
The research has proven that endocannabinoids (named after marijuana's scientific name) are very important in extinguishing the bad feelings and pain triggered by reminders of past experiences. This raises the distinct possibility that phobias, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and some forms of chronic pain are caused by abnormally low levels of indigounous endocannabinoids.
These chemicals also allow people to put the past behind them.
So far a CB1 antagonist has been created that blocks appetite.
However, marijuana is not recommended as a medical treatment because it cannot be targeted to specific locations. Hence future treatment may depend on finding a way to control the brain's production of its own cannabinoids. However, regional differences in the brain could be used to ensure that the endocannabinoids go only where they are needed and in only appropriate amounts.

Scientific American
December 2004
Pages 70 to 75
paraphrased.

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not really a big deal dosnt make me like him more or less.

not really a big deal dosnt make me like him more or less.

The story's one line in over 9 hours of tape.. I found some of the other 9 hours interesting.. ;) but that's the way it goes.. also, Bush seems like he probably never did cocaine, calling it a 'dirty rumor' that he wouldn't bother responding to.. I dunno though.. either way, he cleaned up eventually.

So neo-conservative fundies haven't any ground anymore to poke fun at Clinton's THC-induced tendencies. You know, since your President (who was chosen by God Himself based on his moral values, apparently) smokes the dank.

Clinton may have smoked weed and fooled around with his interns, but I don't think anyone ever claimed that the one made him do the other. ;) Also, Clinton did this in office, not in college. Grow up, bro! :p