NationStates Jolt Archive

I'm wondering when will the day come that I'll be able to tell people that they're fat and obese and shouldn't be making unhealthy choices in public without looking obnoxious and rude just as I tell smokers that they're making an unhealthy choice in public.

I mean really. If you can't handle the truth about your weight problems, then quit making such stupid eating decisions...

Now if you were born that way, that IS a different issue. But we're talking about people that were born perfectly healthy and came into a lazy lifestyle.

You'll be able too the day that you prove theat someone elses obesity is a health risk too you, like smoking

One of the opposition political parties in my country has actually proposed a tax on fatty foods in order to discourage people from buying them.

that makes no sense second hand smoke is a lie

You'll be able too the day that you prove theat someone elses obesity is a health risk too you, like smoking
Mentally, they kill teenagers that try their absolute best to not be as obese as them.

Or those teenage girls just wanna be really sexy models...either/or.

One of the opposition political parties in my country has actually proposed a tax on fatty foods in order to discourage people from buying them.
The result would be the same as taxing marijuana use in the U.S.

The government is just going to get a whole lot of money as a result.

I'm wondering when will the day come that I'll be able to tell people that they're fat and obese and shouldn't be making unhealthy choices in public without looking obnoxious and rude just as I tell smokers that they're making an unhealthy choice in public.

I mean really. If you can't handle the truth about your weight problems, then quit making such stupid eating decisions...

Now if you were born that way, that IS a different issue. But we're talking about people that were born perfectly healthy and came into a lazy lifestyle.

I don't think it's as simple as that, over eating can be the result of psychological disorders, people eat to mask the pain of depression, anxiety etc... Also many over eaters have a problem with the dopamine receptors in their brains, it's similar to the brain chemsitry that causes other addiction problems.

If peoples obesity is the result of these kinds of problems, simply labeling them stupid and lazy will do little to help, and may even excacerbate the problem.

I accept that many obesity cases are the result of laziness and poor choices, but since it is impossible to tell the root cause of someones weight problem, it's probably best not to be judgemental!

If the obese started smoking they would not be as fat. Then they will automatically be treated as smokers.

/nod

I accept that many obesity cases are the result of laziness and poor choices, but since it is impossible to tell the root cause of someones weight problem, it's probably best not to be judgemental!
Agreed, but is it better to ignore the problem completely, or to do something about it?

Agreed, but is it better to ignore the problem completely, or to do something about it?

It's definitely better to do something about it, I was just pointing out that over simplifying the problem will most likely harm some people, as well as help others.

It's definitely better to do something about it, I was just pointing out that over simplifying the problem will most likely harm some people, as well as help others.
Well then...we are in a dilema then...

How bout I just throw my shoe at that stupid fat lady I saw who ran 10 ft., stopped, and began smoking a cigarette?

that makes no sense second hand smoke is a lie

Are you sane? Have you ever been near a smoker? Ever unintentionally breathed that cloud-like stuff? That's second hand smoke.

I'm wondering when will the day come that I'll be able to tell people that they're fat and obese and shouldn't be making unhealthy choices in public without looking obnoxious and rude just as I tell smokers that they're making an unhealthy choice in public.

I mean really. If you can't handle the truth about your weight problems, then quit making such stupid eating decisions...

Now if you were born that way, that IS a different issue. But we're talking about people that were born perfectly healthy and came into a lazy lifestyle.
i would say it is equally rude for you to voluteer such opinions to other people. it's their body, it belongs to them, and you have no business giving them unwanted "advice" about how you think they should care for it. if you can't deal with people doing things you don't like then i would advise you to consider a hermitage in Tibet.

Mentally, they kill teenagers that try their absolute best to not be as obese as them.

Or those teenage girls just wanna be really sexy models...either/or.

Some argue that homosexuals affect them 'mentally'. So are you saying that it'd be alright to descriminate against gays too? I say get over it. If people want to be fat and lazy that's their own choice. Just like if people want to be thin and sexy, that's their own choice (and a good choice at that :D).

The result would be the same as taxing marijuana use in the U.S.

The government is just going to get a whole lot of money as a result.
That's the idea. The problem is that obesity could become a drain on the national health system, which is in a pretty bad state as it is.

You'll be able too the day that you prove theat someone elses obesity is a health risk too you, like smoking
Hmmm...that's not an angle I've considered before...

that makes no sense second hand smoke is a lie
So is global warming...and AIDs.

So is global warming...and AIDs.
The Holocaust as well.

if you can't deal with people doing things you don't like then i would advise you to consider a hermitage in Tibet.

Given China's ongoing occupation of Tibet, that probably isn't the best palce to attempt to hide from 'people doing things you don't like'.

I'm a little unsure about second hand smoke. Doesn't seem to have affected me... *cough, cough*...

Well then...we are in a dilema then...

How bout I just throw my shoe at that stupid fat lady I saw who ran 10 ft., stopped, and began smoking a cigarette?

Can do that if you like, but it's a bit nasty!!!

Given China's ongoing occupation of Tibet, that probably isn't the best palce to attempt to hide from 'people doing things you don't like'.
as long as your plan is to avoid all human contact, i think the Chinese would prefer to have you in Tibet than the current inhabitants :P.

as long as your plan is to avoid all human contact, i think the Chinese would prefer to have you in Tibet than the current inhabitants :P.

Quite possibly. It was just a minor hijack attempt.

Maybe you are taking the wrong aproach. Try blaming the producers of the products that lead to obesity. Sugar, and high sugar products should carry health warnings. Advertising of candy, sweets and other such highly addictive but nutritionally worthless foodstuffs should be banned.

Or you could just laugh at the obese people.

Maybe you are taking the wrong aproach. Try blaming the producers of the products that lead to obesity. Sugar, and high sugar products should carry health warnings. Advertising of candy, sweets and other such highly addictive but nutritionally worthless foodstuffs should be banned.

That's how I intend to become rich when I'm a lawyer...

I'm wondering when will the day come that I'll be able to tell people that they're fat and obese and shouldn't be making unhealthy choices in public without looking obnoxious and rude just as I tell smokers that they're making an unhealthy choice in public.

I mean really. If you can't handle the truth about your weight problems, then quit making such stupid eating decisions...

Now if you were born that way, that IS a different issue. But we're talking about people that were born perfectly healthy and came into a lazy lifestyle.


The day that people are aloud to criticize and ostracize others for their lifestyle is the day America turns communist. This is the land of the free, not the land of conformity. You seem to be forgetting this.

So is global warming...and AIDs.


As is melanoma and STD. If you can inhale the smoke from someone else's cigarette, then how is that a lie EmoBuddy? And then I suppose Emphysema and lung cancer are urban myths as well. Then tell me, why was I one of the pallbearers at my Aunt Kay's funeral? She died of tobacco induced emphysema.

That's how I intend to become rich when I'm a lawyer...


If you can't sue Marlboro, then what makes you think you can sue McDonalds?

Is anyone in the world a Christian anymore? Whatever happened to the golden rule of treating others as you would want to be treated? If hate is all that exists anymore, why don't we all just die?

If you can't sue Marlboro, then what makes you think you can sue McDonalds?

What's Marlboro?

... and, this isn't to do with food, but...

http://www.afn.org/~afn54735/tob971215.html

I don't want to be a lawyer anyway.

Is anyone in the world a Christian anymore? Whatever happened to the golden rule of treating others as you would want to be treated? If hate is all that exists anymore, why don't we all just die?
I would so badly want someone to tell me I'm doing something wrong with my life rather to die thinking everything was alright.

As is melanoma and STD. If you can inhale the smoke from someone else's cigarette, then how is that a lie EmoBuddy? And then I suppose Emphysema and lung cancer are urban myths as well. Then tell me, why was I one of the pallbearers at my Aunt Kay's funeral? She died of tobacco induced emphysema.

Sinuhue was being sarcastic.

What's Marlboro?

... and, this isn't to do with food, but...

http://www.afn.org/~afn54735/tob971215.html

I don't want to be a lawyer anyway.


One of the biggest tobacco companies in the states.

I would so badly want someone to tell me I'm doing something wrong with my life rather to die thinking everything was alright.

How does someone else know what's wrong with you? You are the only one who truly knows and can judge yourself. Other than God, of course

Sinuhue was being sarcastic.


I know. Iwas just adding my own disdain to that.

What's Marlboro?

... and, this isn't to do with food, but...

http://www.afn.org/~afn54735/tob971215.html

I don't want to be a lawyer anyway.


Interesting info, but it's not quite right. That woman was a chain smoker and was dying of lung cancer. She must have known at some point that it was harmful to her health. Tobacco company's nowadays are straight forward with what their product contains and causes for the most part. They can afford to be because their drugs are so addicting. The only way most people stop smoking is that they stop breathing, if you get my point.

I would so badly want someone to tell me I'm doing something wrong with my life rather to die thinking everything was alright.

How many overweight people do you really think that there are who haven't heard that being overwieght was bad for them? I'm willing to bet it is about the same number of homosexual people who haven't heard that being homosexual is a 'sin.'

Somehow a person's lungs and body size have become the moral issues of the secular 'religion' (aka media)

Do you feel an equal need to tell people with suntans that they are risking cancer? Or describe to women wearing high heels exactly what they are doing to thier leg ligaments and backs - because it is not a pretty thing. However, for the most part, what the media has deemed asthetically pleasing doesn't come under the same moral scrutiny.

Actually, both the BC and Alberta governments (Canadian provinces) are trying out 'carrots' to get people to eat more healthily and exercise more. Or at least, they're talking very loudly about it, they haven't actually gotten any agenda out yet. Some of the ideas that have rolled out of the microphones include tax credits, though I have no idea just how that would work. Can you count gym membership and equipment purchase receipts against your taxes, just like you do medical expenses? How do you prove you used them? What if you use the gym provided at work?

The first obvious move is to get physical education back into the classroom. Yeah, I know, it was never gone, but cut back in a big way to make room for academic subjects. But you watch - they'll have at least 30 mins of PE 5 days a week before long. The other thing is to get the junk food vendors out of the school.

As for adults, it's one thing to pass a law against smoking in public places - smokers may feel like they'll die if they don't get a cigarette, but of course they won't - but you can't exactly pass a law against eating, can you? Free nations can post health warnings all they want, but they can't close down the McDonald's and the Tim Horton's. As for public scorn of fat people - news flash - they get crap like that all the time. And it just sends the sensitive ones home in tears to a friendly tub of ice cream.

I'm a size 14. Not exactly huge, but dammit, I can't ride my bike down the street without assholes barking at me, mooing at me, and generally acting brain dead and mean. I mean, jeez, if you think I'm so fat, maybe you should be congratulating me for bike-commuting instead of yelling at me to get my 'fat ass' off the road. At least I'm not spilling blue exhaust into the air.

The Holocaust as well.

Equating smoking to the Nazism. Classic.

Reminds me of the movie clerks, where they called the retail clerk a modern-day Nazi for selling cigarettes.

You'll be able too the day that you prove theat someone elses obesity is a health risk too you, like smoking

Lardasses inevitably cost the taxpayers money, so yes, they do effect us.


Show those lardasses Colodia!

that makes no sense second hand smoke is a lie

Your dad works for a Cigarrette Conglomerate, right?

Second-hand Smoke accounts for 1/6 of all smoking deaths. Don't believe me? Go look it up.

Secondhand smoke isn't life threatening. Prove otherwise.

Your dad works for a Cigarrette Conglomerate, right?

Second-hand Smoke accounts for 1/6 of all smoking deaths. Don't believe me? Go look it up.

You made the assertion, it's your duty to prove it. btw, instead of clogging up this thread I think we should just post on the secondhand smoke thread

That's the idea. The problem is that obesity could become a drain on the national health system, which is in a pretty bad state as it is.
I invite any of you who is interested and open minded too watch a documentary on this subject entitled "super size me". The really scary thing about fast food and unhealthy foods is that special interest lobies pay our congressman too make them available at our schools.

In some schools they even get exclusive contracts too sell only fattening unhealthy food. OUr government is selling out our childrens health in order too keep their campiagn support fun going.


If you are a parect tell your school you want soemthing done. The reason all fo this corruption is going down is because we as a people let it happen. rise up and speak out.

If you don't want too be fat eat right and exercise .. its that simple. STop buying into the bologna lose weight quick scemes. I am sick of seeing the commercials on the T.V.

As for the fellow who started this post. Instead of complaining about the obesity epidemic and wanting permmission too put your fellow Americans down. why not try too build them up instead.

If you are so healthy i invite you too adopt a fat person!!1
thats right health is contagious. Get out there health nuts and adopt a fatty today;) Be their sponsor , their motivator, their mentor, Save their lives!!!
Your goign to be exercising anyway so why nto bring a fatty along?

You'll feel great and you might just have a exercise partner for life.

Is anyone in the world a Christian anymore? Whatever happened to the golden rule of treating others as you would want to be treated? If hate is all that exists anymore, why don't we all just die?
awfully fatalistic for a christian. I don't think Jesus ever said lets all jsut die because the world is not sharing our point of view.::picture Jesus telling the apostles this and leading them into a tent and feeding them poisoned Kool Aide::


Please stop the madness there Dragonmouth .

However you do make 1 good point. Instead of ridiculing these people lets take a proactive approach and actually try too fix the problem instead of bitching about it.

I'm wondering when will the day come that I'll be able to tell people that they're fat and obese and shouldn't be making unhealthy choices in public without looking obnoxious and rude just as I tell smokers that they're making an unhealthy choice in public.

I mean really. If you can't handle the truth about your weight problems, then quit making such stupid eating decisions...

Now if you were born that way, that IS a different issue. But we're talking about people that were born perfectly healthy and came into a lazy lifestyle.
you can say it today if you don't mind getting your teeth knocked in, heck you run that risk with me if you come up whining about smoking.