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America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

I agree.

and your suggestion or point is?

Ah, Jesussaves. :D

Good to have you back. :p

You might want to work on that spelling and sentence structure.

I agree with you! but be prepared cause no one else does


(i don't think lesbians would teach their kids about the difference between dildos and vibrators though)

im guessing from the quality of your original post that YOU are one of said children who are being raised by the TV

That's why I'm a stay at home Dad. If their mother wants to shorten her life by slaving all day at work, I say "Can I drive you there?"
I guess what I'm trying to say is it doesn't matter if it's their mothers at home with them, Dads can do the job just fine. But SOMEONE needs to do it.

Atleast lesbians could teach them how to spell properly.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

If you don't like the fact that children are raised by a TV set, then make sure when the time comes(if ever) for you to have children, YOU get up and educate them properly.

Stop the hipocrisy, and stop trying to put the guilt on women alone. It (usually) takes two to make a child. When men start being responsible about parenthood, maybe we'll see an amelioration.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programs and godless, secular, humanist schools. We are seeing kids become pregnant, become killers, and become drug adicts. Where are their mothers? I'll tell you where: at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next SUV or designer dress. In the olden days, women took care of children. They taught them right from wrong and read to them from the Bible. Now, kids are on their own. Some Lesbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them, the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

Grammar mistakes have been edited. :)

That's why I'm a stay at home Dad. If their mother wants to shorten her life by slaving all day at work, I say "Can I drive you there?"
I guess what I'm trying to say is it doesn't matter if it's their mothers at home with them, Dads can do the job just fine. But SOMEONE needs to do it.

I have lots of respect for those who stay at home like you. Equality of sexes means that raising children isn't a woman's burden anymore. It's good to see a father actively taking care of his children. Keep up the good work.

by the way, what IS the difference between vibrators and dildos?

they both get the job done anyway

Jesussaves, right again

by the way, what IS the difference between vibrators and dildos?

They're basically the same, save that vibrators vibrate. From what I've heard from female friends of mine, vibrators are even more fun.

and your suggestion or point is?
women should stay home with the kids

by the way, what IS the difference between vibrators and dildos?

vibrators are (usually) battery powered and can be made in all sorts of shapes, from very small 'hummingbirds" to very large. dildos are usually solid, often made of silicon, and are mostly based on the size of "that which is usually inserted."

...is in the House, Senate, and Oval Office.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

AHAhahaha... Well, aren't those sexy tv-programs and godless schools some real bitches? Women who read from the bible to their kids should all be lined up and shot - I am *so* glad I actually had a good, neutral, rational, realistic set of parents.

women should stay home with the kids

And why should it be the women specifically who stays home with the kids?

AHAhahaha... Well, aren't those sexy tv-programs and godless schools some real bitches? Women who read from the bible to their kids should all be lined up and shot - I am *so* glad I actually had a good, neutral, rational, realistic set of parents.
You are sick. Women who read the Bible to ther kids are doing a great thing. It figures a commie athiest pinko from this message board would shoot women for teaching theyr kids values.

women should stay home with the kids

What if a couple doesn't have children? What should the woman do in that instance?

What if a couple doesn't have children? What should the woman do in that instance?
Or sterile and therefore cannot have kids?

You are sick. Women who read the Bible to ther kids are doing a great thing. It figures a commie athiest pinko from this message board would shoot women for teaching theyr kids values.

HEY! IT'S FRANK BURNS!

You are sick. Women who read the Bible to ther kids are doing a great thing. It figures a commie athiest pinko from this message board would shoot women for teaching theyr kids values.

Commie atheist pinko? Atheist I stand for, but where the fuck did you get the commie/pinko parts from? I'm a capitalizt, thank you very much. I wouldn't shoot women for teaching their kids proper values, only for filling them with stupid mumbo jumbo voodo-religious lies.

I fart in your general direction.

I fart in your general direction.

P-U! I think your aim was a little off! You got me, too!

*Coughs, gasps, convulses, finally dies*

:mad:

A woman's place...is in the House, Senate, and Oval Office.

Exactly. Hopefully, sometime soon, the Oval Office.

What if a couple doesn't have children? What should the woman do in that instance?
Keep trying. The Bible says be fruitful and multiply

Or sterile and therefore cannot have kids?

Yeah, that's where I was going with it.

I don't think the finger should be pointed at women. The cause of so much strife these days is the breakdown of the Family Unit.
Husbands and wives need to act as a team by setting an example to their children and not getting divorced at the drop of a hat.

Commie atheist pinko? Atheist I stand for, but where the fuck did you get the commie/pinko parts from? I'm a capitalizt, thank you very much. I wouldn't shoot women for teaching their kids proper values, only for filling them with stupid mumbo jumbo voodo-religious lies.

I fart in your general direction.
Good values come from the Bible.

Keep trying. The Bible says be fruitful and multiply

What if one or both partners or sterile? Or what if the husband is castrated in a freak industrial accident?

Keep trying. The Bible says be fruitful and multiply

Okay, so what should the woman be doing inbetween fucking? I mean, you can't have sex 24/7.

Or sterile and therefore cannot have kids?
She should adopt. If more people adopted we woulndt have abortion.

Keep trying. The Bible says be fruitful and multiply

You still haven't answered my question.

Why should it be women who stays at home with the kids? Why not the father?

Jesussaves, I have a question for you. Can you find a place in the Bible where it says that a woman is to stay home with the children? Interestingly enough, in Proverbs 31, this woman is a businesswoman who works outside the home.

Okay, so what should the woman be doing inbetween fucking? I mean, you can't have sex 24/7.
she should be a good Christian and a good wife to her husband.

Keep trying. The Bible says be fruitful and multiply

Dost not alsoeth thy bibel sayeth "This book is for pansies" somewhere in the middle?

Jesussaves, I have a question for you. Can you find a place in the Bible where it says that a woman is to stay home with the children? Interestingly enough, in Proverbs 31, this woman is a businesswoman who works outside the home.
I guess the devil realy can quote scripture.

Dost not alsoeth thy bibel sayeth "This book is for pansies" somewhere in the middle?
U sound like a pansy to me. Are you a gay?

HEY! IT'S FRANK BURNS!
XD <3 M*A*S*H

I guess the devil realy can quote scripture.


I guess the "Christian" can't.

She should adopt. If more people adopted we woulndt have abortion.
If she is single?

Or gay?

Are lesbians allowed to work, since you showed in your OP that you disagree with lesbians adopting.

U sound like a pansy to me. Are you a gay?

Hah! That came from the right mouth.

No, I'm not gay, I enjoy having pre-marital sex with hot women way too much.

Just out of curiosity, I'd like some Scripture references to support this.

Also, for the record, I'm actually a preacher's kid.

Jesussaves, bringing us back to the dark ages! Listen, it is not a womans responsability (sp?) to stay at home, someone needs to be there the majority of the time through about 6th grade when the child is ready to be able to do more on his/her own. As for your homophobia, well, you are pretty stupid to think that... lesbiens/gays will not teach that, and you are stupid to think so, they are just as, if not more capable of raising kids as anyone else. As for pop culture, sure kids will see that stuff, heaven forbid, it's just the body, anybody can say, well, that is how they choose to dress, who cares. And for the bible, since this is suppousedly not a religous country, reading for the bible means nothing. The womans place is not in the home, but doing what ever she wants to do.

she should be a good Christian and a good wife to her husband.

Right, but that can't take that long. She'll probably have a lot of down time. What should she do with it? Take up a hobby? Underwater basketweaving, perhaps?

I guess the "Christian" can't.
some things are common sense

Jesussaves, what was your reaction when Janet Jackson's breast was exposed on TV a year ago during the Super Bowl?

If she is single?

Or gay?

Are lesbians allowed to work, since you showed in your OP that you disagree with lesbians adopting.
If shes single she should get married
If shes gay she should let Jesus into her life and get married

some things are common sense
The thing about common sense is that it is usually neigther common or sense

Jesussaves, bringing us back to the dark ages! Listen, it is not a womans responsability (sp?) to stay at home, someone needs to be there the majority of the time through about 6th grade when the child is ready to be able to do more on his/her own. As for your homophobia, well, you are pretty stupid to think that... lesbiens/gays will not teach that, and you are stupid to think so, they are just as, if not more capable of raising kids as anyone else. As for pop culture, sure kids will see that stuff, heaven forbid, it's just the body, anybody can say, well, that is how they choose to dress, who cares. And for the bible, since this is suppousedly not a religous country, reading for the bible means nothing. The womans place is not in the home, but doing what ever she wants to do.
Gays will raise gay kids and molest them. Its part of the gay agenda.

Jesussaves, what was your reaction when Janet Jackson's breast was exposed on TV a year ago during the Super Bowl?
Little kids were watching. It was wrong and the fcc should punish them

Gays will raise gay kids and molest them. Its part of the gay agenda.

Funny, none of the gay people I met were child molesters.

If shes single she should get married.

Is she allowed to go to work to see if there are marriable men at her place of work? What about while she is engaged and while she is trying to have a baby.

If shes gay she should let Jesus into her life and get married
See abovve.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

You do know there were pregnant teens and child killers long before sexy TV programs. I think you have to realize a few things. That in a modern society people have the right to conduct themselves how ever they wish. If you want to live in a religious theocracy go to Iran. But unfortunately for you and weirdos like you, you are living in a modern democracy where everyone is allowed to do and say what they want.

So in response to your stupid ass thread. A Womans place is where ever the hell 'she' wants it to be.

Little kids were watching. It was wrong and the fcc should punish them

So what? Babies see breasts all the time when their mothers breastfeed them. What's the big deal?

If shes single she should get married


I rather doubt it's that simple.

What if all the available men in the area are pagen sinners? Would she still have to get married to them? Her place is in the home so she can't earn money to move somewhere else and find a good christian husband.

Little kids were watching. It was wrong and the fcc should punish them
:eek:

Why should the FCC punish the kids?

Funny, none of the gay people I met were child molesters.

Shhhh Roach-Busters! You'll shatter his fragile reality! It'd be like pouring salt on a slug! :eek:

You do know there were pregnant teens and child killers long before sexy TV programs. I think you have to realize a few things. That in a modern society people have the right to conduct themselves how ever they wish. If you want to live in a religious theocracy go to Iran. But unfortunately for you and weirdos like you, you are living in a modern democracy where every is allowed to do and say what they want.

So in response to your stupid ass thread. A Womans place is where ever the hell 'she' wants it to be.
Iranians are mohomedan devil worshipers. Im a Christian. I live in America which is a Christian country.

:eek:

Why should the FCC punish the kids?

ROFLMAO!!! :D

If shes single she should get married

1 Corinthians 7:8--Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried as I am.

Matthew 19:12--For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.

gay agenda? I must have missed the memo on that one....

Sounds to me like you from that Traditional Values website *shivers*

So what? Babies see breasts all the time when their mothers breastfeed them. What's the big deal?
Its only ok for feeding babies or for the married couple.

Jesussaves, what do you think of the proven fact that Jesus liked to suck gay cock?

Shhhh Roach-Busters! You'll shatter his fragile reality! It'd be like pouring salt on a slug! :eek:

What would happen if I poured salt on a slug? :confused:

So what? Babies see breasts all the time when their mothers breastfeed them. What's the big deal?
That's why no one can remember anything from when they were a baby - they'd be too scarred to live a normal life. lol :D

What would happen if I poured salt on a slug? :confused:
Try it. Right now. I command you!

The place for women is obviously in the workplace and having complete equality with men in all areas of public life including politics where their representation in most countries is scandalous. I am strongly opposed to the position of women under most capitalist societies where they continue to be exploited by men and dehumanised by the sex industry.

What would happen if I poured salt on a slug? :confused:

From my vague understanding (having never done it myself), they froth up and then die a horrible, horrible death.

It's either froth and death or death sans froth, but it's bad either way, really.

Jesussaves, what do you think of the proven fact that Jesus liked to suck gay cock?
Thats not true. You gays are trying to bring down Christianity. I pray that you will let Jesus into your heart and turn away from satan.

Jesussaves, what do you think of the proven fact that Jesus liked to suck gay cock?

What proof do you have of that?

Jesussaves, what do you think of the proven fact that Jesus liked to suck gay cock?

He did? :-o

What proof do you have of that?

Jesus said so.

And Jesussaves, why do you keep calling me gay when I have repeatedly stated that I am not? (Not that I take offense, or think that there's anything wrong with being gay.)

What proof do you have of that?
Some guy wrote a book about it. Just like how we know Jesus was born on Christmas - that's in the Bible, this is in another old book. See?

gay agenda? I must have missed the memo on that one....

Sounds to me like you from that Traditional Values website *shivers*
gay agenda (http://www.bettybowers.com/homoagenda.html) :D

Dost not alsoeth thy bibel sayeth "This book is for pansies" somewhere in the middle?

Ok...Fake sarcastic King James English is the most annoying thing in the world...next to ignorant hateful people in these forums. If a woman has children, then she should be raising them herself and not dumping them in some daycare so she can afford that new dress or SUV. It is the responsibility of the father to support his wife in raising the children and to provide for them financially. If a couple has no children, or has children who are older, then it's fine for her to get a job. Really, the most important thing is to stay together as a family and not get divorced just because you're selfish and are tired of being married to the same individual. That's like dumping a kid in foster care because you're tired of feeding and raising it. And no, the Bible is not a book for pansies.

From my vague understanding (having never done it myself), they froth up and then die a horrible, horrible death.

It's either froth and death or death sans froth, but it's bad either way, really.
I've done it. They kind of dry up while they're still alive and melt at the same time. It's really cool (but horrible for the slug).

From my vague understanding (having never done it myself), they froth up and then die a horrible, horrible death.

It's either froth and death or death sans froth, but it's bad either way, really.

They make a big snotty puddle, and thrash around a bit. Then they go a funny colour and die. Basically.

They also make a snotty puddle if you pour boiling water on them. And thrash around a bit, then go a funny colour and die.

Some guy wrote a book about it. Just like how we know Jesus was born on Christmas - that's in the Bible, this is in another old book. See?

What book? Also, the Bible doesn't say that Jesus was born December 25, that's just the day we celebrate.

I've done it. They kind of dry up while they're still alive and melt at the same time. It's really cool (but horrible for the slug).

Awesome, I'll have to try it! :D

There is already a national crises on this issue. But liberal women are too busy thinking only of themselves. Hence the reason we must strengthen the USA Patriot Act.
Women have shown themselves too immature and irrational to be qualified for public office, hence the reason that not many of them are elected. Now you females, can sit back and bitch and moan about that comment being shovenist, but that does not change the fact that it is grounded in fact.
If you want an example of women in public office, Nancy Pelosi and Diane Fienstien and Barbara Boxer have done tremendous damage to our nation's national security, the California economy, our schools, indeed the very morale of our nation has been severely damaged by their selfish partisan wankerings.
The sad fact of the matter is this, women in American society think about one thing only, finding the next peanus. Just try to prove me wrong.
Women should not be allowed to vote or consent until they are 30. All younger females are much too immature to be making such decisions. It is a proven fact that women under 30 are easy to take advantage of, defraud, and manipulate, and fooled. And it almost impossible for them to stand up and say no. They only go wherever the crowd goes, seems to me that they shown a themselves incapable of being independent of men. They always need some guy to tell them what they should or should or not do. And if you don't dictate to them, they will go and find someone who will.
You might not like what I just said but that's my two cents based on reality.

Here's a hint for you females, if a guy does a lot of stuff that shows him to be a criminal and an asshole, and it happens within a 3 day period, that's a certain sign that he will be like that for the rest of his life, hence its time for you to move on to someone else.

What book? Also, the Bible doesn't say that Jesus was born December 25, that's just the day we celebrate.
Who said Christmas is December 25? Another old book....see my point?

Jesus said so.

Can you provide me with the actual quote, and where it's found?

gay agenda (http://www.bettybowers.com/homoagenda.html) :D

This is like, last year's copy.

Anything new ? I missed the last memo, so I'm not sure wheter we're molesting kids, toppling goverments, or having a cocktail(haha) over at John's place next weekend.

Who said Christmas is December 25? Another old book....see my point?

I apologize, I don't see your point.

Awesome, I'll have to try it! :D
Welcome to the club! *High fives roach-busters, notes irony of self instructing roach-busters on killing bugs when it is he who has the insecticidal name*

Can you provide me with the actual quote, and where it's found?

The actual quote is: "I like to suck gay cock" - Jesus, and it is from a book that I have written called "The Neo Bible". Since I have putten it in writing, it must be true.

This is like, last year's copy.

Anything new ? I missed the last memo, so I'm not sure wheter we're molesting kids, toppling goverments, or having a cocktail(haha) over at John's place next weekend.


I'm pretty sure were at the 'gay teachers promote homosexuality in school' stage, although I can't be to sure.

gay agenda (http://www.bettybowers.com/homoagenda.html) :D


Wow. I am very impressed. They can manage all that in one hour?

If only being gay were a choice. I'd love to have that sort of efficiency. That is some serious time management.

So is this Jesussaves guy for real or just a joke? I never know which.

Wow. I am very impressed. They can manage all that in one hour?

If only being gay were a choice. I'd love to have that sort of efficiency. That is some serious time management.
and so much sex!

Welcome to the club! *High fives roach-busters, notes irony of self instructing roach-busters on killing bugs when it is he who has the insecticidal name*

*Returns the high five, grabs a can of Raid*

Want to go kill some bugs? :p

So is this Jesussaves guy for real or just a joke? I never know which.

Probably for real. :(

The actual quote is: "I like to suck gay cock" - Jesus, and it is from a book that I have written called "The Neo Bible". Since I have putten it in writing, it must be true.

Not everything put in writing is true. Since one can safely assume you are not a primary source (being as Jesus walked on earth 2000 years ago) what primary source did you get it from?

I'm pretty sure were at the 'gay teachers promote homosexuality in school' stage, although I can't be to sure.

Oh, damn! I'm like, so LATE in that stage of the plan!

Well, I guess I have to cancel my manucure. I'll have to work extra hours in order to bring some new, virgin, unsuspecting teen boys in our evil clutches and soar our numbers.

Seems to me, that American women have serious psychological problems cause they prefer men who beat them and abuse them.
Prove this wrong.

I apologize, I don't see your point.
Fact: The Bible is an old book full of stories.
Fact: The Bible is the only 'proof' we have of Jesus's life & resurrection.
Fact: You appear to accept this 'proof,' therefore any old book filled with stories should be accepted as fact.
Fact: There is (probably) an old book that says that Jesus loved to suck gay cock. Therefore, Jesus loved to suck gay cock.

See?

If you don't like the fact that children are raised by a TV set, then make sure when the time comes(if ever) for you to have children, YOU get up and educate them properly.

Stop the hipocrisy, and stop trying to put the guilt on women alone. It (usually) takes two to make a child. When men start being responsible about parenthood, maybe we'll see an amelioration.

In think in this particular case it might be better if he let the TV raise his kids.

Hey, where'd JS go?

Fact: The Bible is an old book full of stories.
Fact: The Bible is the only 'proof' we have of Jesus's life & resurrection.
Fact: You appear to accept this 'proof,' therefore any old book filled with stories should be accepted as fact.
Fact: There is (probably) an old book that says that Jesus loved to suck gay cock. Therefore, Jesus loved to suck gay cock.

See?

Sounds convincing enough to me. :rolleye:

Oh, damn! I'm like, so LATE in that stage of the plan!

Well, I guess I have to cancel my manucure. I'll have to work extra hours in order to bring some new, virgin, unsuspecting teen boys in our evil clutches and soar our numbers.
Its more like some 25 year old man shacking with your 16 year old daughter and warping her brain and you letting it happen.

In think in this particular case it might be better if he let the TV raise his kids.
No we need more insane quirky people to make this world more interesting (though I'm not saying this would necessarily be good for the children themselves...).

Not everything put in writing is true. Since one can safely assume you are not a primary source (being as Jesus walked on earth 2000 years ago) what primary source did you get it from?

Hey, I'm walking the earth just like Jesus did, and I'm far more current at that!

My primary source is a vision I had in a dream, in which I dreamt that I was designated to write a book including the quote "Sex is for fags" by Jesus. My conclusion is that it must have been true, since I had a vision about it and then put it in writing.

Sounds convincing enough to me. :rolleye:
Prove me wrong then.

Its more like some 25 year old man shacking with your 16 year old daughter and warping her brain and you letting it happen.

I fail to see the relevance or point of this post toward my last post's sarcastic comments. Care to explain yourself a bit?

Fact: The Bible is an old book full of stories.
Fact: The Bible is the only 'proof' we have of Jesus's life & resurrection.
Fact: You appear to accept this 'proof,' therefore any old book filled with stories should be accepted as fact.
Fact: There is (probably) an old book that says that Jesus loved to suck gay cock. Therefore, Jesus loved to suck gay cock.

See?

The Bible is more than just "an old book full of stories." Even if you don't accept it as the Word of God, you should take it as historically accurate. Especially consider the book of Luke, being as Luke was a historian. Not all old books are accurate, but the Bible is a historically accurate book.

Also, which old book specifically says that Jesus was gay?

and so much sex!

I know! I demand my lesbian sex! I'm trying to be gay, I'm trying to choose.

Why is it not working?

Perhaps I should post something on topic while I'm waiting for it to work. As a woman, my place will be whereever I want it to be. Within the law of course. I'm working my arse off to get to university and I don't intend to let that education go to waste. So I will be working at least for a while afterwards. When/If I have kids I will decide then whether my place shall be in the home. It most likely will as I think I'd rather like to bring up my kids myself. When they're older I'd probably want to go back to work again.

*Returns the high five, grabs a can of Raid*

Want to go kill some bugs? :p
*Grabs pack of matches*

Let's go!

Prove me wrong then.

Actually I won't even try. I appreciate the irony too much :p

And, let's face it... 12 single guys following him around? That's a little suspect, if you ask me...

The Bible is more than just "an old book full of stories." Even if you don't accept it as the Word of God, you should take it as historically accurate. Especially consider the book of Luke, being as Luke was a historian. Not all old books are accurate, but the Bible is a historically accurate book.

Also, which old book specifically says that Jesus was gay?
So you believe that the Earth was created 5000 years ago?

Hey, I'm walking the earth just like Jesus did, and I'm far more current at that!

My primary source is a vision I had in a dream, in which I dreamt that I was designated to write a book including the quote "Sex is for fags" by Jesus. My conclusion is that it must have been true, since I had a vision about it and then put it in writing.

Okay, then, how do we know your dream was divinely inspired? In fact, it wasn't, because the Bible is complete, and there is nothing more to be added.

Actually I won't even try. I appreciate the irony too much :p

And, let's face it... 12 single guys following him around? That's a little suspect, if you ask me...
Exactly! He must have sucked A LOT of gay cock to get that kind of following!

If you look at our child support courts you will know why a lot of mothers (and some fathers) have to work...to feed their kids. Often it takes 2 people to provide everything a child needs, emotionally and financially. It isn't impossible for working parents to give their kids the time and attention that they need as kid's school hours roughly correspond to day work hours. The trick is to make time for them every single day. You have to take "me" out of your vocabulary, and replace it with "we".

To say that a woman should stay at home while the husband works is silly. Does a woman's gender make her a better parent? If a family can afford it, and one of the parents wishes to stay home, gender should have nothing to do with it.

Okay, then, how do we know your dream was divinely inspired? In fact, it wasn't, because the Bible is complete, and there is nothing more to be added.
By that reasoning, God can no longer interfere with our lives, thus nullifying the Bible. Yay for immorality!

So you believe that the Earth was created 5000 years ago?

From about 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. I don't have exact numbers.

The Bible is more than just "an old book full of stories." Even if you don't accept it as the Word of God, you should take it as historically accurate. Especially consider the book of Luke, being as Luke was a historian. Not all old books are accurate, but the Bible is a historically accurate book.

Also, which old book specifically says that Jesus was gay?

I told you, my book states specfically that Jesus sucked gay cock (not necissarily making him gay).

Anyway, saying that the Bible is historically accurate is much like saying that the holocaust didn't happen - BS. While *some* things in the Bible may be true, seeing everything in there as historical truth must be the ultimate step of stupidity. I can understand if people read the bible as a metaphor, and use it as a guideline for their behaviour in this world. However, I fail to understand when people read that some dude walked on water and says "OMG this is TRUE because.. ur... it's a FACT!"

There is already a national crises on this issue. But liberal women are too busy thinking only of themselves. Hence the reason we must strengthen the USA Patriot Act.
Women have shown themselves too immature and irrational to be qualified for public office, hence the reason that not many of them are elected. Now you females, can sit back and bitch and moan about that comment being shovenist, but that does not change the fact that it is grounded in fact.
If you want an example of women in public office, Nancy Pelosi and Diane Fienstien and Barbara Boxer have done tremendous damage to our nation's national security, the California economy, our schools, indeed the very morale of our nation has been severely damaged by their selfish partisan wankerings.
The sad fact of the matter is this, women in American society think about one thing only, finding the next peanus. Just try to prove me wrong.
Women should not be allowed to vote or consent until they are 30. All younger females are much too immature to be making such decisions. It is a proven fact that women under 30 are easy to take advantage of, defraud, and manipulate, and fooled. And it almost impossible for them to stand up and say no. They only go wherever the crowd goes, seems to me that they shown a themselves incapable of being independent of men. They always need some guy to tell them what they should or should or not do. And if you don't dictate to them, they will go and find someone who will.
You might not like what I just said but that's my two cents based on reality.

Here's a hint for you females, if a guy does a lot of stuff that shows him to be a criminal and an asshole, and it happens within a 3 day period, that's a certain sign that he will be like that for the rest of his life, hence its time for you to move on to someone else.


Ok, as a woman, I agree with some of what you say. Women are easily manipulated because women tend to be more emotional. Therefore, show a woman a baby or cute puppy, and you have won them over. :p However, not every woman is a Nancy Pelosi. If all women had eyebrows like that, I think over-population would no longer be a problem. Here's an idea: voting aptitude tests for women. On every question, have a picture of a puppy next to one of the answers. If she picks too many puppy-answers, she can't vote. :p The problem is women choosing based on charm and emotion (eg Bill Clinton) and not on who will do a better job.

From about 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. I don't have exact numbers.
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By that reasoning, God can no longer interfere with our lives, thus nullifying the Bible. Yay for immorality!

Actually, no. God no longer gives humans what to write in the Bible. What is written in the Bible stands. What is stated as immoral in the Bible is still immoral.

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Okay, so I see what you're getting at. Still, based upon current evidence, the earth is between what I mentioned.

Actually, no. God no longer gives humans what to write in the Bible. What is written in the Bible stands. What is stated as immoral in the Bible is still immoral.
How do you know that?

Okay, then, how do we know your dream was divinely inspired? In fact, it wasn't, because the Bible is complete, and there is nothing more to be added.

Eh? So if god would appear with his big bearded face in the sky in front of all of the world to see, and exclaim THE BIBLE IS NOT COMPLETE YOU MORONS - you wouldn't heed that, since it has been decided that the bible *is* complete. My dream was indeed divinely inspired - I know that just as much as anyone with divine inspiration has ever known anything.

Okay, so I see what you're getting at. Still, based upon current evidence, the earth is between what I mentioned.
*Repeats aforementioned laughter sequence*

*Gentlemanly bow* Oh, I insist, please do tell!

Eh? So if god would appear with his big bearded face in the sky in front of all of the world to see, and exclaim THE BIBLE IS NOT COMPLETE YOU MORONS - you wouldn't heed that, since it has been decided that the bible *is* complete. My dream was indeed divinely inspired - I know that just as much as anyone with divine inspiration has ever known anything.

The Bible commands us to "test the spirits." Indeed, neither of those pass the test.

God no longer gives humans what to write in the Bible

And how the hell would you know this, might I ask?

*Repeats aforementioned laughter sequence*

*Gentlemanly bow* Oh, I insist, please do tell!

Tell what?

*Gentlemanly bow* Oh, I insist, please do tell!

Please, let's not turn this into *yet* another creationism vs evolution thread.

On topic- Has anyone else noticed that Jesussaves has never answered my question asking why it should be the woman and the woman alone who needs to stay home with the kids?

And how . . .would you know this, might I ask?

The Bible says so. God, not changing His mind, would know whether He wanted something added and would not have written that in the Bible.

Tell what?
Prove to me the Earth is between "6,000 and 10,000" years old. Take your time, I am leaving for a while. :)

Please, let's not turn this into *yet* another creationism vs evolution thread.

On topic- Has anyone else noticed that Jesussaves has never answered my question asking why it should be the woman and the woman alone who needs to stay home with the kids?

Or my question asking for Biblical proof? Or mine about the Scripture references about singleness?

*snip* God, not changing His mind...

So he never changes his mind?

What about the old testament's vengeful god and "an eye for an eye", and then the new testament's forgiving god and "love thy neighbour"?

The Bible says so. God, not changing His mind, would know whether He wanted something added and would not have written that in the Bible.

Ok, so did God not once - NEVER - change his mind about *anything* in the stories in the Bible? Not ever? Never ever ever?

So he never changes his mind?

What about the old testament's vengeful god and "an eye for an eye", and then the new testament's forgiving god and "love thy neighbour"?

Maybe God's bipolar.

Or my question asking for Biblical proof? Or mine about the Scripture references about singleness?
Sounds to me like someone's avoiding the questions he doesn't have premade answers for...

Maybe God's bipolar.
Or maybe he sometimes do change his mind.

Sounds to me like someone's avoiding the questions he doesn't have premade answers for...

Exactly

So he never changes his mind?

What about the old testament's vengeful god and "an eye for an eye", and then the new testament's forgiving god and "love thy neighbour"?

The original "eye for an eye" reference was for the nation of Israel. It was a legal punishment in the court system. "Love thy neighbour" is personal. We are not to take justice into our own hands.

Shit, I lost the link... I had a link before to an atheist website that had listed awesomely funny contradictions in the bible. They weren't few, I'll have you know.

Ok, so did God not once - NEVER - change his mind about *anything* in the stories in the Bible? Not ever? Never ever ever?
No. There are cases where people have prayed, however, God knows what we will pray for before we ask.

Jesussaves is correct. God is a socialist.

bush -> lesbians -> womens place -> bible......interesting thread

so...i also gonna post my opinion
im a declared atheist, raised by a single mother and im german... so i probably made 20 mistakes already.
as far as i can say americans arent unwelcome here but many germans simply dont aggree with the politic that bush stands for.....neither do I.
too bad bush doesnt visit my hometown (berlin) but ill the protestants here anyways.
back to this gay-women-bible-thingie:
Ive read the bible, had religous classes in school, visited israel just before it became too dangerous and i can only support the fact that bible teaches some good ideas but it also teaches many ideas that totally outdated and the part about the "womens place" is one of them.
of course parents should take good care of their children but you also have too see that this isnt possible in many cases.
specially in a country with nearly no public assistance like the USA shouldnt wonder that parents, single or married, have to do a job or more just to be able to pay for their kids school, food, clothes and so on...and that has nothing to do with being able to buy designer stuff, fancy cars and a rolex.
my mother does shift work, so she didnt have as much time for as she wanted to have but still she is a very good mother and im pretty pround of her that she managed all that stuff.
btw many people think that love and finding a good partner is an essential requirement for getting married and a gay human being is also able to raise a child.
jesussaves....i envy your sweet, little world where everything can be solved by quoting your "holy" manual but get real.......life isnt like that.

And among the teachings of His Holiness Bahá'u'lláh is the equality of women and men. The world of humanity has two wings -- one is women and the other men. Not until both wings are equally developed can the bird fly. Should one wing remain weak, flight is impossible. Not until the world of women becomes equal to the world of men in the acquisition of virtues and perfections, can success and prosperity be attained as they ought to be.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 288)

So he never changes his mind?

What about the old testament's vengeful god and "an eye for an eye", and then the new testament's forgiving god and "love thy neighbour"?

This is not an example of God changing His mind, rather an example of Progressive Revelation. When the OT states an eye for an eye it is meant as level of justice that was not in force before that statement. Before this a transgression against a person would be met with a punishment out of poportion to to original act. When Christ said 'love thy neighbor" this raised the standard of human behavior. There is no contradiction between the two statements. God did not reveal all truth at once because humanity had not evolved to a high enough level to put into pratice the knowledge just as all secular knowledge was not discovered at once.

Shit, I lost the link... I had a link before to an atheist website that had listed awesomely funny contradictions in the bible. They weren't few, I'll have you know.

Dunno if this is the same one...

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.shtml

And among the teachings of His Holiness Bahá'u'lláh is the equality of women and men. The world of humanity has two wings -- one is women and the other men. Not until both wings are equally developed can the bird fly. Should one wing remain weak, flight is impossible. Not until the world of women becomes equal to the world of men in the acquisition of virtues and perfections, can success and prosperity be attained as they ought to be.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 288)

That's lovely. Thank you.

Here is what Lenin said on the International Working Women's Day of 1921:

"You cannot draw the masses into politics without drawing in the women as well. For under capitalism the female half of the human race is doubly oppressed. The working woman and the peasant woman are oppressed by capital, but over and above that, even in the most democratic of the bourgeois republics, they remain, firstly, deprived of some rights because the law does not give them equality with men; and secondly—and this is the main thing—they remain in household bondage", they continue to be “household slaves", for they are overburdened with the drudgery of the most squalid, backbreaking and stultifying toil in the kitchen and the family household.

No party or revolution in the world has ever dreamed of striking so deep at the roots of the oppression and inequality of women as the Soviet, Bolshevik revolution is doing. Over here, in Soviet Russia, no trace is left of any inequality between men and women under the law. The Soviet power has eliminated all there was of the especially disgusting, base and hypocritical inequality in the laws on marriage and the family and inequality in respect of children.

This is only the first step in the liberation of woman. But none of the bourgeois republics, including the most democratic, has dared to take oven this first step. The reason is awe of “sacrosanct private property.

The second and most important step is the abolition of the private ownership of land and the factories. This and this alone opens up the way towards a complete and actual emancipation of woman, her liberation from “household bondage” through transition from petty individual housekeeping to large-scale socialised domestic services.

This transition is a difficult one, because it involves the remoulding of the most deep-rooted, inveterate, hidebound and rigid “order” (indecency and barbarity would be nearer the truth). But the transition has been started, the thing has been set in motion, we have taken the new path."

That's lovely. Thank you.

Here's another good one.

"Education holds an important place in the new order of things. The education of each child is compulsory. If there is not money enough in a family to educate both the girl and the boy the money must be dedicated to the girl's education, for she is the potential mother. If there are no parents the community must educate the child. In addition to this widespread education each child must be taught a profession, art, or trade, so that every member of the community will be enabled to earn his own livelihood. Work done in the spirit of service is the highest form of worship. Where do you find this statement?

(Abdu'l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 82)

Here is what Lenin said on the International Working Women's Day of 1921:

"You cannot draw the masses into politics without drawing in the women as well. For under capitalism the female half of the human race is doubly oppressed. The working woman and the peasant woman are oppressed by capital, but over and above that, even in the most democratic of the bourgeois republics, they remain, firstly, deprived of some rights because the law does not give them equality with men; and secondly—and this is the main thing—they remain in household bondage", they continue to be “household slaves", for they are overburdened with the drudgery of the most squalid, backbreaking and stultifying toil in the kitchen and the family household.

No party or revolution in the world has ever dreamed of striking so deep at the roots of the oppression and inequality of women as the Soviet, Bolshevik revolution is doing. Over here, in Soviet Russia, no trace is left of any inequality between men and women under the law. The Soviet power has eliminated all there was of the especially disgusting, base and hypocritical inequality in the laws on marriage and the family and inequality in respect of children.

This is only the first step in the liberation of woman. But none of the bourgeois republics, including the most democratic, has dared to take oven this first step. The reason is awe of “sacrosanct private property.

The second and most important step is the abolition of the private ownership of land and the factories. This and this alone opens up the way towards a complete and actual emancipation of woman, her liberation from “household bondage” through transition from petty individual housekeeping to large-scale socialised domestic services.

This transition is a difficult one, because it involves the remoulding of the most deep-rooted, inveterate, hidebound and rigid “order” (indecency and barbarity would be nearer the truth). But the transition has been started, the thing has been set in motion, we have taken the new path."

This wonderful in theory. And Lenin didn't care how many people had to die inorder to make it happen-- men, women and children.

And among the teachings of His Holiness Bahá'u'lláh is the equality of women and men. The world of humanity has two wings -- one is women and the other men. Not until both wings are equally developed can the bird fly. Should one wing remain weak, flight is impossible. Not until the world of women becomes equal to the world of men in the acquisition of virtues and perfections, can success and prosperity be attained as they ought to be.

(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 288)
How dare you and your religion contradict the great Jesussaves? Repent before it's too late!

How dare you and your religion contradict the great Jesussaves? Repent before it's too late!

I'm sure Jesussaves really believes what he says, and he has a right to say what he believes.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?



You're just jealous because the women seem to have something you don't.

It's called: an education.

I'm sure Jesussaves really believes what he says, and he has a right to say what he believes.
Yes, and I have a right to laugh at him. BTW, have you seen some of the gems he's posted in the past?

Yes, and I have a right to laugh at him. BTW, have you seen some of the gems he's posted in the past?

He gives me more than few very good belly laughs.

Here's another good one.

"Education holds an important place in the new order of things. The education of each child is compulsory. If there is not money enough in a family to educate both the girl and the boy the money must be dedicated to the girl's education, for she is the potential mother. If there are no parents the community must educate the child. In addition to this widespread education each child must be taught a profession, art, or trade, so that every member of the community will be enabled to earn his own livelihood. Work done in the spirit of service is the highest form of worship. Where do you find this statement?

(Abdu'l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 82)



The world in the past has been ruled by force and man has dominated over woman by reason of his more forceful and aggressive qualities both of body and mind. But the scales are already shifting, force is losing its weight, and mental alertness, intuition, and the spiritual qualities of love and service, in which woman is strong, are gaining ascendancy. Hence the new age will be an age less masculine and more permeated with the feminine ideals, or, to speak more exactly, will be an age in which the masculine and feminine elements of civilization will be more properly balanced.

Iranians are mohomedan devil worshipers. Im a Christian. I live in America which is a Christian country.

Gays will raise gay kids and molest them. Its part of the gay agenda.

Yeah Jesussaves has his moments of hilarity, but this verges on hate.

The world in the past has been ruled by force and man has dominated over woman by reason of his more forceful and aggressive qualities both of body and mind. But the scales are already shifting, force is losing its weight, and mental alertness, intuition, and the spiritual qualities of love and service, in which woman is strong, are gaining ascendancy. Hence the new age will be an age less masculine and more permeated with the feminine ideals, or, to speak more exactly, will be an age in which the masculine and feminine elements of civilization will be more properly balanced.

Have you been reading something from the Baha'i Faith? because this sounds like a quote from the Teachings of Baha'u'llah.

I have to go out for awhile. Back later.

What I find quite amusing is the fact that everyone seems to take this 'Jesussaves' person seriously.
Well, to amuse myself, I will join in. How often do you get a break from Iraq War and anti-everything threads to debate less talked about subjects like women's rights?

Jesussaves, you claim that the bible is the ultimate source of morality and that the values contained within must be taught to children otherwise they are doomed to a lifetime of misery and doom and the entire of society would collapse. Correct?

I must counter your argument with my own logic. Historical evidence indicates that the bible was written over a period stretching from 1000 BC to even the present day if you account certain books like the book of Mormon etc...
If this is true, then if humanity is doomed to misery and doom with the collapse of social structure, my argument is, how did the basis of society form before the presence of the bible?
Human civilisation is known to go back another 5000 years before the first writings of the bible took place. If this is true, which it is, then how did human social structures evolve to the point where literature and texts like the bible could be written?
If what you say is true, then surely society would have broken down before writing and even alphabet could be determined?

Human civilisation is known to go back another 5000 years before the first writings of the bible took place
Untrue, untrue! There were no humans before God created Adam and Eve, which was 4000 years ago. :p

Untrue, untrue! There were no humans before God created Adam and Eve, which was 4000 years ago. :p

While I note the sarcasm in your tone, most Christian churchs themselves destroyed this 'myth' and have either officially or unofficially accepted evolution as part of God's plan.
Even if Humans were created 4000 years ago, there would still be a gap before the mating of the first human and the conception and writing of the bible. In the end, this only confuses the situation further as there would be even less time to create the social structures necessary to the development of the first pieces of literature, like the bible.

Have you been reading something from the Baha'i Faith? because this sounds like a quote from the Teachings of Baha'u'llah.

I have to go out for awhile. Back later.

Yes I have. I was impressed and agreed with a number of your philosophies and spiritual quotes that you brought into discussions. When you said that you were of the Baha'i Faith, I started reading. I also have a friend at work whose husband is a professor of religious studies, so I have been talking to him about the Baha'i Faith. It is very interesting. I find that it encourages me to view some things differently and make me think. It also mirrors some basic beliefs that I hold.

You have to keep learning to grow.

What I find quite amusing is the fact that everyone seems to take this 'Jesussaves' person seriously.
Well, to amuse myself, I will join in. How often do you get a break from Iraq War and anti-everything threads to debate less talked about subjects like women's rights?

Jesussaves, you claim that the bible is the ultimate source of morality and that the values contained within must be taught to children otherwise they are doomed to a lifetime of misery and doom and the entire of society would collapse. Correct?

I must counter your argument with my own logic. Historical evidence indicates that the bible was written over a period stretching from 1000 BC to even the present day if you account certain books like the book of Mormon etc...
If this is true, then if humanity is doomed to misery and doom with the collapse of social structure, my argument is, how did the basis of society form before the presence of the bible?
Human civilisation is known to go back another 5000 years before the first writings of the bible took place. If this is true, which it is, then how did human social structures evolve to the point where literature and texts like the bible could be written?
If what you say is true, then surely society would have broken down before writing and even alphabet could be determined?
*Claps* Bravo! Cold, hard logic at its best!

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?


Em... You my friend are either a sad eample of why America has become one of the stupidest countries on earth, or a very good comedian.... Which is it?

Em... You my friend are either a sad eample of why America has become one of the stupidest countries on earth, or a very good comedian.... Which is it?
That's the mystery of Jesussaves...tune in next episode and see if YOU can solve it! :cool: <-TV producer guy

That's the mystery of Jesussaves...tune in next episode and see if YOU can solve it! :cool: <-TV producer guy

Its the next Reality TV show!

Finding Jesus! :D

Its the next Reality TV show!

Finding Jesus! :D
Ooh I have a guess!

Maybe Jesus got grumpy one day in Heaven, so he came down here to cool down and piss us off! Eh? Eh?

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Woooooooo!

I don't know who created this guy, but I absolutely adore him. Such laughs at his posts and even bigger laughs watching people scramble about his feet, frothing at the mouth, tearing each other's heads off thinking he's for real.

Whoever's puppet this is deserves no less than a trophy, a pat on the butt, and a t-shirt that says "I am God".

Woooooooo!

I don't know who created this guy, but I absolutely adore him. Such laughs at his posts and even bigger laughs watching people scramble about his feet, frothing at the mouth, tearing each other's heads off thinking he's for real.

Whoever's puppet this is deserves no less than a trophy, a pat on the butt, and a t-shirt that says "I am God".
Like I said, maybe he's Jesus's puppet....come to think of it, that would be very....strange and ironic. Certainly would put a whole new twist on things, eh?

BTW Your signature is void where I live? What do I do?

Yeah, I'm definitely in total agreement with Jesussaves on this one.

Yeah, I'm definitely in total agreement with Jesussaves on this one.
:eek: :eek: :eek: REALLY are you serious!!! I mean you have to out of your mind to agree with that guy!!! Everything he says is bigoted and ignorant and hateful and racist and offensive and terrible and horrible........[blah blah blah]





[/sarcasm] ;)

Forget it girls, the tide is turning and you're on your way out of the boardroom and back to the kitchen. Jesussaves says so! Get that power suit off and get that pinny on! Pronto! :cool:

Quite frankly i refuse to believe that there could be anyone so bigotted, sexist and homophobic as Jesussaves. i'm really hoping he's playing devil's advocate because it's a sorry society that produces people like him.

as far as the woman's place issue goes, on a purely practical point - i'm old enough to get married and have kids if i want. i'm also old enough to need to be working and earning money to support myself. If i followed the suggestions raised on this thread, and quit my job, got married and started producing kids straight away, i'd be divorced in two years. that would be good for the kids. or should i stay married to a man who i'm miserable with just to please society? i would also have to find a very understanding husband who would pay for my food, board, and total life every day, plus pay off my debts. not likely. how many men earn that kind of money?

it takes time to fall in love and decide you want to be with someone for the rest of your life. and i have the right to choose the man i want to be with based on my feelings for him, not society's need for me to reproduce. it takes maturity and confidence to make those decisions. all these attributes are things that develop as you grow up.

as for women in politics, women make up half the world's population of humans. we should be represented. maybe you guys don't like the agendas we bring, or the way we vote or the issues we deal with. but we are entitled to make our choices the same as you. these issues affect us, and are important to us.

how dare you suggest that we need our decisions to be made by you!?!?!?!

if a man made my choices for me i'd be in a very sad sorry situation right now. it's by making my choices and having the power and right to act upon them that i have achieved what i have today.

i will be represented in government. i will be educated. i will vote. i will make my own decisions. i will have a jop and a career and be the best that i can be in my profession. i may even have a husband and kids one day. and if i do, i'll do my best for my family. but i will also be a part of that family and so my rights and needs will also have to be recognised, and an understanding partner will be happy with that. no one has given me any good reason for taking these rights and options away from me and so i will fight for them as long as i have to. it's just a pity that in this modern society i still have to fight.

Your rants are no match for the thick skull of Jesussaves, redirect your efforts elsewhere.

Your rants are no match for the thick skull of Jesussaves, redirect your efforts elsewhere.

Indeed, the skull of Jesussaves is so thick that it could survive a direct strike by a cruise missile.

Indeed, the skull of Jesussaves is so thick that it could survive a direct strike by a cruise missile.

so think, yet so little inside to protect......

Quite frankly i refuse to believe that there could be anyone so bigotted, sexist and homophobic as Jesussaves. i'm really hoping he's playing devil's advocate because it's a sorry society that produces people like him.

as far as the woman's place issue goes, on a purely practical point - i'm old enough to get married and have kids if i want. i'm also old enough to need to be working and earning money to support myself. If i followed the suggestions raised on this thread, and quit my job, got married and started producing kids straight away, i'd be divorced in two years. that would be good for the kids. or should i stay married to a man who i'm miserable with just to please society? i would also have to find a very understanding husband who would pay for my food, board, and total life every day, plus pay off my debts. not likely. how many men earn that kind of money?

it takes time to fall in love and decide you want to be with someone for the rest of your life. and i have the right to choose the man i want to be with based on my feelings for him, not society's need for me to reproduce. it takes maturity and confidence to make those decisions. all these attributes are things that develop as you grow up.

as for women in politics, women make up half the world's population of humans. we should be represented. maybe you guys don't like the agendas we bring, or the way we vote or the issues we deal with. but we are entitled to make our choices the same as you. these issues affect us, and are important to us.

how dare you suggest that we need our decisions to be made by you!?!?!?!

if a man made my choices for me i'd be in a very sad sorry situation right now. it's by making my choices and having the power and right to act upon them that i have achieved what i have today.

i will be represented in government. i will be educated. i will vote. i will make my own decisions. i will have a jop and a career and be the best that i can be in my profession. i may even have a husband and kids one day. and if i do, i'll do my best for my family. but i will also be a part of that family and so my rights and needs will also have to be recognised, and an understanding partner will be happy with that. no one has given me any good reason for taking these rights and options away from me and so i will fight for them as long as i have to. it's just a pity that in this modern society i still have to fight.

you cant be takeing jesussaves seriously right? I cant belive what a genuis this guy is. Someone would be sued for this stuff, but no he stuck with it and now hes a beloved chacter. God I hope I can think up some thing like that someday.

you cant be takeing jesussaves seriously right? I cant belive what a genuis this guy is. Someone would be sued for this stuff, but no he stuck with it and now hes a beloved chacter. God I hope I can think up some thing like that someday.

that's what i mean about it being a sorry society if it has actually produced him. what's worrying is that even if he's taking the piss, there are people who agree with him....

that's what i mean about it being a sorry society if it has actually produced him. what's worrying is that even if he's taking the piss, there are people who agree with him....

I assure you that no one in their right mind agrees with him. Unfortunantly there is an overabundance of lunatics in our world.

A woman can do anything she wants if she has the drive to do so.
I hate the feminists, male and female, because they take it too far!
Get a good education, work hard and do what you love to do. This way you will be happy in life.
A womans place is were ever she makes it.

A woman can do anything she wants if she has the drive to do so.
I hate the feminists, male and female, because they take it too far!
Get a good education, work hard and do what you love to do. This way you will be happy in life.
A womans place is were ever she makes it.

Amen to that. And same goes for men. You get out of life what you put into it.

And to Jesussaves: Women aren't trying to be "just like" men. We're trying to be seen as EQUAL with men. Why should women get paid less for the same jobs? Why can't Dad stay home with the kids every so often? Don't get me wrong, I know there are many fathers who do, and I applaud them. Nor am I a raging feminist, because they just make things worse. I do think, though, that women should have every opportunity that men have, and shouldn't have to apologize for it.

Good values come from the Bible.


Yeah,

Genocide
Incest
Murder
Lies
Deceit


Good values! :rolleyes:

I fail to see the relevance or point of this post toward my last post's sarcastic comments. Care to explain yourself a bit?
I am merely making an observation of the hypocrisy of our society. We have banned relations between 16 year olds and 25 year olds, yet we let it happen as long as the 25 year old guy is a criminal or someone who has absolutely no morals whatsoever. While those who play by the rules are left on the bench or scorned.

and what's wrong with sexy tv shows..:P

Yeah,

Genocide
Incest
Murder
Lies
Deceit


Good values! :rolleyes:

Good, good. It also teaches you how to test if your wife is cheating on you...

Ok, as a woman, I agree with some of what you say. Women are easily manipulated because women tend to be more emotional. Therefore, show a woman a baby or cute puppy, and you have won them over. :p However, not every woman is a Nancy Pelosi. If all women had eyebrows like that, I think over-population would no longer be a problem. Here's an idea: voting aptitude tests for women. On every question, have a picture of a puppy next to one of the answers. If she picks too many puppy-answers, she can't vote. :p The problem is women choosing based on charm and emotion (eg Bill Clinton) and not on who will do a better job.
1. The modern man does something similar. Its likely because both men and women in today's society have been dumbed down. Like all those girls I met, during my tenure here in the US Army, who claimed that when they turned 18 they and their boyfriends had conversations and they decided that the girl was too old to continue her education. Or when women have abortions not because they want to, but because their families, boyfriends, or some social worker wants them to.
2. Men only vote for who has the most money, not for who has a plan and actually has researched what the problems are.
3. I advocate voting tests, but for both men and women. Especially since males still have a slightly higher turnout than women. But yeah, you are right, women do tend to vote based on looks and not on issues. But I doubt that most men are much better.
However, you are right that, unlike men, women are easy to take advantage of, because they are always thinking emotionally.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?


yes i go to work so that i can buy that new dress and SUV.


is this guy for real??

*leaves thread to avoid possible warning or deletion*

Why does this thread make me want to bludgeon someone?

Good, good. It also teaches you how to test if your wife is cheating on you...
And how to rip babies apart in a custody battle.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?


Ah, the sky is falling. Has been for quite some time now. In fact, one would think it should have hit the ground by now, eh?

There have always been problems, and there have always been opportunists such as yourself ready to capitalize on them; ready to cast blame and provide some half-assed solution that'll make everything right as rain again. In the end, such people have turned out to be part of the problem, not part of the solution.

So I think I will take leave of your charade, thank you very much. People like you pose far more of a threat to our civilization than the pet peeves you seek to correct.

Ironic, isn't it.

what a load of bull shit!!! :sniper:
Who says you need an old story book for morals? & who says God gives a shit wether you listen to a bunch of old fat guys who pork kids on their spare time?
Do you think God needs you to beleive in him? *1 one thousand,2 two thousand,3 three thousand,4 four thousand, feeling better already*

p.s.
I think the church is a scheme to control the people, so you can forget most of what I say

p.p.s.
I'll support any vigilante who wants to plug you dumb fucks :eek: (only those willing to impose their ideas on others ex: through laws)!!! :sniper:

wasn't that apple thing knowledge? what kind of religion kicks you out for thinking? & didn't he create Adam & Eve in his image? Which would mean he drinks, gambles, screws, lies...

:D Thanks Jebus, I needed a laugh.
Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

Hell, I'm straight and I could teach my kids the difference between a dildo and a vibrator! ;)

Jesussaves, shame on you for using christianity to justify your ugly bigotry.

I'm a christian, and my faith is the biggest part of why I feel its important to push for EQUALITY FOR ALL PEOPLE.

You know, I didn't know what the difference was between a vibrator and a dildo - I thought they were synonymous! - until a few days ago. And my parents were straight!

If only I had had lesbian parents, I might have avoided this embarassing faux pas.

You know, I didn't know what the difference was between a vibrator and a dildo - I thought they were synonymous! - until a few days ago. And my parents were straight!

If only I had had lesbian parents, I might have avoided this embarassing faux pas.
you didn't?
freak.

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

Ok i can agree with some of what you're saying but not all sorry... i know the world has a crisis (not just the US) but are you truly going to blame it on working women... There are ways to have kids taught right from wrong and read to them from the Bible even if the mum works... I would think that as a Christian you might understand that the problems in this world go alot deeper than that (i also have nothing against women working) ie back to Adam and Eve. Thats where the problem comes from...

Oh and where are their fathers?

And you should spell check... lol no offense meant cause i know what it's like to have people dis you cause of the way you type

America is in a crisis today. Children are being raised by sexy tv programms and godless secular humanist schoolls. We are seeing kids become pregnanat become killers and become drug adicts. Where are theyr mothers? I'll tell you where at work. Women at work are trying to prove that they are just like men. They are trying to buy the next suv or desiner dress. In the olden days women took care of children. Taut them wright from wrong. Read to them from the bible. Now kids are on there own. Some lezbians even want to raise kids. What will they teach them the diffrence between dildos and vibrators?

Your personal beliefs are either archaic, or you are simply trying to start a flame war. This is yet another thread I have seen you start that has brought out some replies that deserved to get some nasty moderator intervention.

The US has secular schools because they were created that way when the US voted for and ratified the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights. No state supported religion, remember that one?

Up until the 20th Century single parent households were extremely common, primarily because mother died in child birth at some point, or because she was at home caring for the children, she was infected by the same illness that killed many of her children and died too, while Dad was out in the fields wasnt exposed on the same basis. Nevertheless, the country seems to not only to have survived but thrived.

Most women I know who work are there not because they "want to prove they are as good as men" but because it is extremely difficult for a family to make it on one income at the moment in our country, or they are working because Dad took off and even if he is actually paying is child support, that amount is still not enough to raise a family on.

Of course they could stay home on welfare and care for them but somehow I don't suppose you would consider that a good idea, nor would I or any other reasonable person.

Good parents regulate the amount of television their children watch, monitor what they are exposed to on the internet and teach them right from wrong.

Lesbians raising kids? Well the jury is out on that one, and I guess we will see how that works out over the next 20 - 30 years. But then, at some point, since they are raising kids, a man was involved along the way. The actual number of adoption cases involving 2 same sex parents is essentially negligible as a proportion.

Do YOU know the difference between a dildo and a vibrator? Essentially not much, except one requires an electrical cord or battery, and the other doesn't. Oh yes, and they are safe sex as they don't promote the spread of AIDs, or any other STD.

*Claps* Bravo! Cold, hard logic at its best!

*Bows with pride*

It is always pleasant to destroy anothers argument.

My argument. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8243961&postcount=160)

1. The modern man does something similar. Its likely because both men and women in today's society have been dumbed down. Like all those girls I met, during my tenure here in the US Army, who claimed that when they turned 18 they and their boyfriends had conversations and they decided that the girl was too old to continue her education. Or when women have abortions not because they want to, but because their families, boyfriends, or some social worker wants them to.
2. Men only vote for who has the most money, not for who has a plan and actually has researched what the problems are.
3. I advocate voting tests, but for both men and women. Especially since males still have a slightly higher turnout than women. But yeah, you are right, women do tend to vote based on looks and not on issues. But I doubt that most men are much better.
However, you are right that, unlike men, women are easy to take advantage of, because they are always thinking emotionally.


Yay for rampant sexist fallacies all over the place in this thread. Don't people ever get tired of bitching about the 'men are all like this' and 'women are all like that' crap? Unless Whittier was just joking there, in which case, I apologise, like lots.

Gentlemen, Ladies --- be yourselves, do what's right for you and your situation, don't worry about some nitwits raving about what you should or shouldn't do when they don't have the full story, and for the love of $diety/$ideal/$code/$ethic please drop the gender stereotyping.

And for Jesussaves --- if u lern 2 spell, maybe people wuldn't read ur posts, then end up thinking that finding God might maek them stoopid or sumthing.

Or not..your stuff is a pretty damn good giggle, after all. :P

Therefore, show a woman a baby or cute puppy, and you have won them over. :p
I'm a woman, and babies repel me (cute puppies I am ambivalent towards). I don't like or want children, and intend to be steralised to prevent ever becoming pregnant. Sorry, Jesussaves - as such a twisted, evil heathen, I must be going to hell. I guess I'll see you there, because I'm sure your God would only want real Christians - ie, those that 'love', tolerate and forgive all - in his 'Kingdom'. Until then ;)

If you don't like the fact that children are raised by a TV set, then make sure when the time comes(if ever) for you to have children, YOU get up and educate them properly.

Stop the hipocrisy, and stop trying to put the guilt on women alone. It (usually) takes two to make a child. When men start being responsible about parenthood, maybe we'll see an amelioration.

I dont know about America but in Britain, in 95% of cases of child custody, primary custody goes to the mother. I think men will be more serious about parenthood when the Government takes them more seriously

I dont know about America but in Britain, in 95% of cases of child custody, primary custody goes to the mother. I think men will be more serious about parenthood when the Government takes them more seriously
I would think that this occurs because a) The mother is in actual fact the primary caregiver or b)the law perceives that this is so.

Therefore I think it's society's attitudes towards gender roles AND the actual parental roles played by men that need to be changed. Just handing over custody to fathers is not going to solve problems that go much deeper.

Besides which, I doubt VERY much that men form their basic attitudes towards parenting from custody battles...

I would think that this occurs because a) The mother is in actual fact the primary caregiver or b)the law perceives that this is so.

Therefore I think it's society's attitudes towards gender roles AND the actual parental roles played by men that need to be changed. Just handing over custody to fathers is not going to solve problems that go much deeper.

Besides which, I doubt VERY much that men form their basic attitudes towards parenting from custody battles...

I think men do form their ideas about their responsablitys in parenting from societys values. Currently society seems to favour women doing all the caring and men wishing to do so are not seen as legitamate claimants and so are dismissed in 95% of cases. Its whats known as a self fuffiling prophecy. Society does not expect men to do primary caring and so they dont. This is reflected in custody battles. I think that the custody laws need to be altered or social opinons need to change. Men are attempting to do this now by challenging more and more in the courts now than ever before. Nautrally this does produce some fringe seeming idoicy (fathers 4 justice being a case in point) but there is logic behind it.

I think men do form their ideas about their responsablitys in parenting from societys values. Currently society seems to favour women doing all the caring and men wishing to do so are not seen as legitamate claimants and so are dismissed in 95% of cases. Its whats known as a self fuffiling prophecy. Society does not expect men to do primary caring and so they dont. This is reflected in custody battles. I think that the custody laws need to be altered or social opinons need to change. Men are attempting to do this now by challenging more and more in the courts now than ever before. Nautrally this does produce some fringe seeming idoicy (fathers 4 justice being a case in point) but there is logic behind it.
See I agree with the part I bolded. It's very true. Society needs to expect men to adopt a caring role, but men also need to actually DO these things. I mean, I read something that said women do a huge majority of housework in Australia.

I just feel that changing the outcome of custody battles without fixing the underlying social issues is a bit shortsighted.

Edit: And of course I'm not saying that ALL men don't pull their weight or that custody should automatically go to the mother. That should be judged on a case by case basis.

See I agree with the part I bolded. It's very true. Society needs to expect men to adopt a caring role, but men also need to actually DO these things. I mean, I read something that said women do a huge majority of housework in Australia.

I just feel that changing the outcome of custody battles without fixing the underlying social issues is a bit shortsighted.

Thats the thing though. Men want to do these things and in many cases they do, and this is not recognised. As for your original point, its a loop. Society needs to change its opinions but men need to change their actions. But men will not change their actions untill society changes its opinons etc