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Nobody wants him in Germany, but he's coming anyway, so he'll visit an almost dead town. 900 gullies will be welded shut, people are not allowed to leave their houses, American (!) sharp shooters on just about all roofs, highways are being closed in a large area around Mainz, Rhein-Main ship traffic is being cancelled (that's the largest river in Germany), most (if not all) shops in the city will close and suffer losses in the double-digit millions of Euros, large protests are planned for Tuesday and Wednesday.

We'll make sure he has an unpleasant time while in Germany. I wonder why a simple phone call doesn't suffice, but nooo, Bush has to come with his 300-man circus of personal assistants and whatnot. Not welcome Mr. Bush! (http://www.notwelcomebush.de/)

Why do you have [NS] in your name?

It was the same security crap when passed through Ottawa two months ago. A right, royal pain in the ass for everybody who just wanted to go to work and support their family.

Why do you have [NS] in your name?
I registered on the Joltforums before registering for Nationstates to post here. The nick was thus autogenerated since my chosen nick already existed.

When you say he'll visit a ghost town I get this image of Bush going round on some sort of fair ground attraction with people dressed as ghosts and rubber spiders everywhere - he isn't visiting Fantasialand is he?

same stuff happens everywhere he goes. sharp shooters, protests, shut down shops, etc.

Ein Deutscher']I registered on the Joltforums before registering for Nationstates to post here. The nick was thus autogenerated since my chosen nick already existed.
oh, thanks saw few others and wondered.

When you say he'll visit a ghost town I get this image of Bush going round on some sort of fair ground attraction with people dressed as ghosts and rubber spiders everywhere - he isn't visiting Fantasialand is he?
No. he's visting a town which he chose for it's "cozy atmosphere". But due to him, it will be a town frozen due to the oppressive security measures. It'll cause congestion of all highways around Frankfurt/Main and other cities around there due to rather long shutdowns of major highways or parts thereof in the area.

They probably avoided Berlin due to Berlin being our capital and thus having a much higher potential for violent protests with the few million people living there.

Do you live in that town? You should moon him. :p

Do you live in that town? You should moon him. :p
So thats what the sharp shooters are for! :eek:

Do you live in that town? You should moon him. :p
Unfortunately I don't. Otherwise, I would - and maybe get shot by a sharpshooter (meh). :mp5:

same stuff happens everywhere he goes. sharp shooters, protests, shut down shops, etc.
Then let's send him to Beijing and ruin China's economy. He's our secret weapon!

there was none of that really when he visited here....or Clinton

Well there was, but it wasnt like everyone had to stay indoors and gratings were welded and roads were all shut and stuff like that

In every poll I've seen on several newspaper's websites, 80% or more of the voters are against this visit. Shows you how much Germans dislike Bush (and America in general) these days.

At least Roland Koch is happy.

At least Roland Koch is happy.

Who?

Maybe we should get a few tenthousand people and just march into the city. Ill wonder how they want to stop us. I will bring pie and tea!

Who?
Roland Koch, the minister president of Hessia, which is were the visit is going to take place.

Who?
The Minister-President of Hesse. Not overly important for anyone outside Germany :p

http://www.roland-koch.de/

What would happen if someone threw an egg at Bush during his visit? Would American sharpshooters shoot someone on German soil?

What would happen if someone threw an egg at Bush during his visit? Would American sharpshooters shoot someone on German soil?
I suppose the US would declare war on Germany.

What would happen if someone threw an egg at Bush during his visit? Would American sharpshooters shoot someone on German soil?
american sharpshooters would shoot you in the head if they thought a there was a bee that mgiht sting the president was on it.

I'm guessing Hessia is one of your states? :confused:

I'm guessing Hessia is one of your states?
Indeed.

I'm guessing Hessia is one of your states? :confused:

Basic geography. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Germany

Ein Deutscher']The Minister-President of Hesse. Not overly important for anyone outside Germany :p

http://www.roland-koch.de/
Didn't the Hessians work as mercenaries for the British during the American revolution? Why is Bush visiting an enemy?

Seeing that the US presence in germany puts about US$1 billion into your econemy each year, methinks that you are being somewhat shortsighted! :headbang:

Basic geography. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Germany

Hey, how was I supposed to know? :mad:

Didn't the Hessians work as mercenaries for the British during the American revolution? Why is Bush visiting an enemy?
http://www.americanrevolution.org/hessindex.html
Indeed.

Ein Deutscher']http://www.americanrevolution.org/hessindex.html
Indeed.
So why is Bush trying to collaborate with the enemy?

Hey, how was I supposed to know? :mad:

By going to school?

Ein Deutscher']Nobody wants him in Germany, but he's coming anyway, so he'll visit an almost dead town. 900 gullies will be welded shut, people are not allowed to leave their houses, American (!) sharp shooters on just about all roofs, highways are being closed in a large area around Mainz, Rhein-Main ship traffic is being cancelled (that's the largest river in Germany), most (if not all) shops in the city will close and suffer losses in the double-digit millions of Euros, large protests are planned for Tuesday and Wednesday.
Well, that's just a small town, he is visiting our CAPITAL!

By going to school?

They don't teach us about German states in school. :mad:

The revolution was over 200 years ago. Saying they're enemies nowadays is a bit outdated. Britain has no influence over Germany anymore ;)

Seeing that the US presence in germany puts about US$1 billion into your econemy each year, methinks that you are being somewhat shortsighted! :headbang:

Yeah, like we need that *cough* most *cough* successful *cough* trade *cough* nation *cough* for *cough* years.

Anyway, I think it´s pretty cool he shows up here. Sure, Mr. Bush is a bit of a ass-clown, but so what? He´s still the President of the US of A, a country most people here - despite what is portrayed - like a lot (just don´t listen to the crap the "young crowd" throws at him, they´ll grow up one day ;) ).

The security precautions seem to be a bit excessive, but this ain´t a regular state visit, it´s more like a greet-and-meet goodwill "We love you too" tour. A lot of things changed since 9/ 11 (paranoia anyone?), but this does seem to be a bit excessive.

Oh well. It´s his visit, not mine.

Didn't the Hessians work as mercenaries for the British during the American revolution? Why is Bush visiting an enemy?

in that case why would america visit britain?

Yeah, like we need that *cough* most *cough* successful *cough* trade *cough* nation *cough* for *cough* years.

Anyway, I think it´s pretty cool he shows up here. Sure, Mr. Bush is a bit of a ass-clown, but so what? He´s still the President of the US of A, a country most people here - despite what is portrayed - like a lot (just don´t listen to the crap the "young crowd" throws at him, they´ll grow up one day ;) ).

The security precautions seem to be a bit excessive, but this ain´t a regular state visit, it´s more like a greet-and-meet goodwill "We love you too" tour. A lot of things changed since 9/ 11 (paranoia anyone?), but this does seem to be a bit excessive.

Oh well. It´s his visit, not mine.
It's OUR tax money they're wasting for this ass clown.

So why is Bush trying to collaborate with the enemy?

Maybe he wants to hire some Hessian mercenaries to assist in the occupation of Iraq ;)

I also think that I need to point out that America effectively stopped the USSR occupying Germany for fifty years, so you have quite a bit to be thankful for.

However i do acknowledge that forcing people to stay indoors is a little over the top security wise.

They don't teach us about German states in school. :mad:

You do have geography, don't you?

You do have geography, don't you?

Yes, but they don't teach us about individual states within countries, except our own. :(

Ein Deutscher']It's OUR tax money they're wasting for this ass clown.

And your point is? He´s our damn guest - wether we like him or not, he is entitled to some hospitality, right?

Yes, but they don't teach us about individual states within countries, except our own. :(

Well, that is sad.

But then again, I don't know how richer my life is knowing all the states of America, or Norway's fylken.

And your point is? He´s our damn guest - wether we like him or not, he is entitled to some hospitality, right?

It's Bush. He deserves but contempt.

And your point is? He´s our damn guest - wether we like him or not, he is entitled to some hospitality, right?
No. He's one of the last people who deserves our hospitality.

Ein Deutscher']No. He's one of the last people who deserves our hospitality.

He deserves to be flipped off, mooned, and given raspberries.

Ein Deutscher']It's OUR tax money they're wasting for this ass clown.
And there would be a ton of you complaining if he didn't go to visit during the next four years. But, as has been mentioned before, it's just too much fun to second guess politicians.

It's Bush. He deserves but contempt.

May your attitude enlighten the world. (Note: Sarcasm)

Ein Deutscher']http://www.heute.de/ZDFheute/inhalt/31/0,3672,2262879,00.html

Nobody wants him in Germany, but he's coming anyway, so he'll visit an almost dead town. 900 gullies will be welded shut, people are not allowed to leave their houses, American (!) sharp shooters on just about all roofs, highways are being closed in a large area around Mainz, Rhein-Main ship traffic is being cancelled (that's the largest river in Germany), most (if not all) shops in the city will close and suffer losses in the double-digit millions of Euros, large protests are planned for Tuesday and Wednesday.

We'll make sure he has an unpleasant time while in Germany. I wonder why a simple phone call doesn't suffice, but nooo, Bush has to come with his 300-man circus of personal assistants and whatnot. Not welcome Mr. Bush! (http://www.notwelcomebush.de/)

The same precautions are taken here in the US when he vists somewhere. And it's not like he's just coming over, you figure heads had to have allowed this visit...

May your attitude enlighten the world. (Note: Sarcasm)

You get what you give. It should be "Old" Europe's turn to return.

And there would be a ton of you complaining if he didn't go to visit during the next four years. But, as has been mentioned before, it's just too much fun to second guess politicians.
I am sure most Germans couldn't care less about Bush visiting us. Instead he's hated throughout the country (if not the world) for his last 4 years as president of the US. He is not welcome here and whoever invited him deserves a spanking.

Ein Deutscher']I am sure most Germans couldn't care less about Bush visiting us. Instead he's hated throughout the country (if not the world) for his last 4 years as president of the US. He is not welcome here and whoever invited him deserves a spanking.
Aside from what anyone thinks about one leader or another, most all of them deserve common courtesy. Hell, we even let Europeans visit the White House without too much fuss. What's more is that we even allow yankees into Atlanta without the kind of rudeness that you advocate.

Aside from what anyone thinks about one leader or another, most all of them deserve common courtesy. Hell, we even let Europeans visit the White House without too much fuss. What's more is that we even allow yankees into Atlanta without the kind of rudeness that you advocate.
Its probably because we're uncivilized yankees who just want to kill babies and drink oil, while they're sophisticated Europeans who are rational and calm. (Not seriously)

Aside from what anyone thinks about one leader or another, most all of them deserve common courtesy. Hell, we even let Europeans visit the White House without too much fuss. What's more is that we even allow yankees into Atlanta without the kind of rudeness that you advocate.

That´s what I was saying all the time, they just don´t listen. Sure, I don´t like him as well, no doubt, but as our guest he is entitled to some hospitality, wether he deserves it or not. And if this means to seal everything and lock down a entire town so be it.

I really don´t understand why people who aren´t affected by his visit bitch about it.

Ein Deutscher']He is not welcome here and whoever invited him deserves a spanking.

I'll volunteer for the job! :D

*Grabs a hot frying pan*

Aside from what anyone thinks about one leader or another, most all of them deserve common courtesy. Hell, we even let Europeans visit the White House without too much fuss. What's more is that we even allow yankees into Atlanta without the kind of rudeness that you advocate.
I've not seen this sort of waste of tax money for any other leading politician. If the leader of the country that claims to be the freest and most democratic nation in the world, has to fear for his life so much, then maybe he should stay in the US and people should go to him if they want something from him. Otherwise, phonecalls should do.

That´s what I was saying all the time, they just don´t listen. Sure, I don´t like him as well, no doubt, but as our guest he is entitled to some hospitality, wether he deserves it or not. And if this means to seal everything and lock down a entire town so be it.

I really don´t understand why people who aren´t affected by his visit bitch about it.
Because it's our money that is being thrown out of the window for these excessive security measures. Not to mention the un-constitutional restrictions people around this area need to suffer just so one man can feel a little secure.

That´s what I was saying all the time, they just don´t listen. Sure, I don´t like him as well, no doubt, but as our guest he is entitled to some hospitality, wether he deserves it or not. And if this means to seal everything and lock down a entire town so be it.

I really don´t understand why people who aren´t affected by his visit bitch about it.
I'm sure there will be a few roadblocks and quite a bit of inconvenience. That's just the way these visits are. When the G-8 held their meeting in Brunswick, GA, the island was indeed sealed off. The residents were allowed to leave or stay, but not go back and forth once the G-8 leaders arrived. If we can lock down an island, why can't the Germans get used to the idea of locking down a single town?

Ein Deutscher']Because it's our money that is being thrown out of the window for these excessive security measures. Not to mention the un-constitutional restrictions people around this area need to suffer just so one man can feel a little secure.

Hey, it´s MY money too and those precautions aren´t "unconstitutional", just for your information.

Ein Deutscher']Because it's our money that is being thrown out of the window for these excessive security measures. Not to mention the un-constitutional restrictions people around this area need to suffer just so one man can feel a little secure.
Look pal, like I pointed out, we certainly went out of our way to make sure the G-8 felt safe. That includes Germany, doesn't it? I think you need to knock off your hyperbole and just realize this is the way the world works now.

I'm sure there will be a few roadblocks and quite a bit of inconvenience. That's just the way these visits are.

Yup.

When the G-8 held their meeting in Brunswick, GA, the island was indeed sealed off. The residents were allowed to leave or stay, but not go back and forth once the G-8 leaders arrived. If we can lock down an island, why can't the Germans get used to the idea of locking down a single town?

I really don´t know. Sure, it´s a bit extreme, but it´s a temporary precaution. Nothing I´d loose ANY sleep over.

Most people wouldn´t as well, if it weren´t for "Mr. Popular" Bush visiting. I think people just use this as a pretence to vent their anger about Bush. That´s all.

Not Welcome Mr Bush?

Who gives a shit about Germany, anyway? Isn't this the "caring" nation who consistently tries to screw Israel, after murding X million Jews in the Holocaust?

Why don't the elitist pricks in Europe and their pathetic college-student Socialist atheist backers start putting their money where their mouth is and foot the bill for the problems in Africa and Asia - that they started through colonization.

Europeans are a bunch of useless whiners. The only time they're not killing eachother, they blame all the worlds problems on someone else.

Look pal, like I pointed out, we certainly went out of our way to make sure the G-8 felt safe. That includes Germany, doesn't it? I think you need to knock off your hyperbole and just realize this is the way the world works now.
Sure, this is how the world works - at least for G.W. Bush. That doesn't mean that I have to agree with it.

Not Welcome Mr Bush?

Who gives a shit about Germany, anyway? Isn't this the "caring" nation who consistently tries to screw Israel, after murding X million Jews in the Holocaust?

Why don't the elitist pricks in Europe and their pathetic college-student Socialist atheist backers start putting their money where their mouth is and foot the bill for the problems in Africa and Asia - that they started through colonization.

Europeans are a bunch of useless whiners. The only time they're not killing eachother, they blame all the worlds problems on someone else.
Umm.. yeah. :rolleyes:

Who gives a shit about Germany, anyway? Isn't this the "caring" nation who consistently tries to screw Israel, after murding X million Jews in the Holocaust?



I beg your pardon, but could you please elaborate on that "consistently tries to screw Israel"?

You DO realize that Mr. Bulldozer Ariel Sharon just recently called Germany one of Israels best friends and allies, right?

Not Welcome Mr Bush?

Who gives a shit about Germany, anyway? Isn't this the "caring" nation who consistently tries to screw Israel, after murding X million Jews in the Holocaust?

Why don't the elitist pricks in Europe and their pathetic college-student Socialist atheist backers start putting their money where their mouth is and foot the bill for the problems in Africa and Asia - that they started through colonization.

Europeans are a bunch of useless whiners. The only time they're not killing eachother, they blame all the worlds problems on someone else.

:eek:

Ein Deutscher']Sure, this is how the world works - at least for G.W. Bush. That doesn't mean that I have to agree with it.
What is it you don't agree with? The fact that we sealed off an island to make European leaders safe, or the fact that Germany needs to seal off a town to make another foreign leader safe? It works both ways, buddy.

What is it you don't agree with? The fact that we sealed off an island to make European leaders safe, or the fact that Germany needs to seal off a town to make another foreign leader safe? It works both ways, buddy.
Both. It's unnecessary. Especially the overexaggerated security measures for Bush.

Ein Deutscher']Both. It's unnecessary. Especially the overexaggerated security measures for Bush.

*sigh*

Hey, why don´t you complain to the Hessian State Gov?

Ein Deutscher']Both. It's unnecessary. Especially the overexaggerated security measures for Bush.
I wasn't aware you were an executive protection expert.

*sigh*

Hey, why don´t you complain to the Hessian State Gov?
I already did.

I wasn't aware you were an executive protection expert.
No need to be one. This is unprecedented for *any* foreign official visiting us. Not even Bush Sr. or Clinton had this sort of "security".

Ein Deutscher']Both. It's unnecessary. Especially the overexaggerated security measures for Bush.
That's funny. I would say there isn't a safer place on earth than Brunswick, Georgia. Everyone knows each other and strangers stand out. The only thing that happens there are sea tortises birthing. I would be a whole lot more concerned about my safety in country like Germany, where there are tons of immigrants from Islamic countries. The Islamists are our enemies, by the way.

Ein Deutscher']I already did.

I´m sure they´ll understand your concerns.

Anyway, those precautions are maybe excessive.

I´d just call them:

VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY thorough :D

Ein Deutscher']No need to be one. This is unprecedented for *any* foreign official visiting us. Not even Bush Sr. or Clinton had this sort of "security".
And so is the war on Islamic fundamentalists. Wake up.

Aside from what anyone thinks about one leader or another, most all of them deserve common courtesy. Hell, we even let Europeans visit the White House without too much fuss. What's more is that we even allow yankees into Atlanta without the kind of rudeness that you advocate.
Shutting an entire city down, and wasting millions of Euro's for nothing, for a visit that will last not more then 6 hours goes way beyond common courtesy.

The Islamists are our enemies, by the way.
So is the US.

And so is the war on Islamic fundamentalists. Wake up.
Yeah as if Germany is *the* hotbed of Islamic Fundamentalists. I thought it was the US where a business building fell after 2 planes hit it. If you hear about any Islamic Fundamentalists here, then it's usually way exaggerated to make the people afraid of the terrorist threat. Besides that, Islamic Fundamentalists are not something new and still security measures were never this overexaggerated before.

Shutting an entire city down, and wasting millions of Euro's for nothing, for a visit that will last not more then 6 hours goes way beyond common courtesy.
Go to #58. Read it. That's what we consider courtesy in the South.

Go to #58. Read it. That's what we consider courtesy in the South.
Having the world leaders of the G-8 in one place for several days in a row is not the same as a single guy coming to visit for a few hours.

And so is the war on Islamic fundamentalists. Wake up.

Islamic fundamentalists =/= terrorists. IRA and UDA are defined as terrorists but their celtic and rangers not islamic, i cant even see how u could get a war on Islamic fundamentalists and the current conflicts unless its a swipe at the US' determination to concentrate on the islamic countries rather then say North Korea.

Is there anyway you can keep Bush in Germany? Many of us really don't want him coming back to the U.S. Oh, dear, if you keep him, we'll be left with Dick Cheney. Yikes! I just hope those protests are LARGE and LOUD.

Maybe he wants to hire some Hessian mercenaries to assist in the occupation of Iraq ;)
They didn't work out too well for the British. Hell, they got their asses beat by a bunch of half-starved, freezing rabble.

So is the US.
The United States and Germany are allies.

Is there anyway you can keep Bush in Germany? Many of us really don't want him coming back to the U.S. Oh, dear, if you keep him, we'll be left with Dick Cheney. Yikes! I just hope those protests are LARGE and LOUD.
I hope too that they'll be loud and I am sure they'll be large. But due to the security measures, Bush and Schröder won't see any of it.

They didn't work out too well for the British. Hell, they got their asses beat by a bunch of half-starved, freezing rabble.

So did the British ;)

The United States and Germany are allies.
On paper maybe. Among politicians maybe. The people? Hardly.

They didn't work out too well for the British. Hell, they got their asses beat by a bunch of half-starved, freezing rabble.
And didn't most of them stay here, rather than go back to Hessianville?

Ein Deutscher']No need to be one. This is unprecedented for *any* foreign official visiting us. Not even Bush Sr. or Clinton had this sort of "security".
The situation is different.

And didn't most of them stay here, rather than go back to Hessianville?
A lot of them did. Yeah.

And didn't most of them stay here, rather than go back to Hessianville?
Not many returned. Most died.

And didn't most of them stay here, rather than go back to Hessianville?

Would you go back to your Prince who SOLD you to the freaking British Royals if you could stay in a place far away and start things over?

Ein Deutscher']The people? Hardly.
Fortunately, that's irrelevent.

Would you go back to your Prince who SOLD you to the freaking British Royals if you could stay in a place far away and start things over?
LOL. Good point. I suspect one of my way back ancestors did just that.

LOL. Good point. I suspect one of my way back ancestors did just that.

Not to mention Hessia isn´t such a great place IMHO ;)

Fortunately, that's irrelevent.
Yeah. So much for democracy. :mad:

Not to mention Hessia isn´t such a great place IMHO ;)
I don't know much about Germany, except that my father-in-law was stationed near Garmish during the Korean war. He liked the area, although he is from Alabama, so his standards are a little lower than what we have, here in Georgia. I did spend four hours in Frankfort changing planes from India and the people in the Delta Crown Room were nice. My family emigrated way back when, probably not Hessians, more like the early 1800's.

Ein Deutscher']Yeah. So much for democracy. :mad:
I thought you guys had a representative government, not a democracy.

I thought you guys had a representative government, not a democracy.
We elect our "representatives" so that's just the same kind of democracy the Americans have. But it's not the real kind of democracy as ancient Athens had it.

Ein Deutscher']We elect our "representatives" so that's just the same kind of democracy the Americans have. But it's not the real kind of democracy as ancient Athens had it.
I'm starting to see your problem. You expect your representatives to bow to whatever popular idea is in favor at the time. We expect ours to stand fast and govern. Unfortunately, they don't do a very good job of that.

everyone should line up at the sides of the roads and throw bags of excrement at Bush

everyone should line up at the sides of the roads and throw bags of excrement at Bush
I'd be content with rotten eggs. Those smell worse and are easier to throw. Unfortunately, it's not possible to line up at the roads.

Ein Deutscher']I'd be content with rotten eggs. Those smell worse and are easier to throw. Unfortunately, it's not possible to line up at the roads.
Its pretty pathetic that Bush is hated by the world about as much as Osama Bin Laden is. I cant believe this atrocity is in power. Didnt people learn anything from history at all?

If someone is to afraid to go somewhere without such measures, they should just remain home IMO.


Like the Yankee telling my dad was crazy when he went to Washington DC and supposelly walk in a place where white man can be skinned alive, *shrug*. The main problem is the attitude you take, he meet only nice (black) folks in the streets where he took his evening walk. But the next day, every yankee at the office where telling him he was nut and this could have been extremely dangerous.

Empathy and attitude matter a lot. Personnally, I would live in a ghetto if I would move there, rather then live with a landlord who is proudly showing his guns. Some peoples would say I am crazy, *shrug*, I dont believe them and will just do it. :)

Bush will be in Brussels on the 22nd.

So will I.

It has to be one of the worst coincidences in my life. I have to be there, in the AB concert hall to see The Mars Volta. I bought the ticket in december, and the gig sold out shortly after. At that time I was unaware of the visit.

You can't take your car into the center of Brussels, so I will have to take the train, which I hope will not be too full of protesters and commuters. There will probably be barricades everywhere. I don't want to get stuck in a demonstration. I guess it would be really cool to see, but I'd rather not get caught up in a tear gas cloud or miss the concert.

You see, I don't go out that much,( even though I'm a student in my early 20's, mobile and not poor). This is only the third time in my life I am actually going to a real concert, in Brussels, and guess who decides to show up and mess up my planning?

Now it's personal.

Not Welcome Mr Bush?

Who gives a shit about Germany, anyway? Isn't this the "caring" nation who consistently tries to screw Israel, after murding X million Jews in the Holocaust?

Why don't the elitist pricks in Europe and their pathetic college-student Socialist atheist backers start putting their money where their mouth is and foot the bill for the problems in Africa and Asia - that they started through colonization.

Europeans are a bunch of useless whiners. The only time they're not killing eachother, they blame all the worlds problems on someone else.

Has any noticed america was colonised by europeans? you guys are a bunch of elitist too so stop bitching over it you bastard and oh yeah did you notice that germany was under Nazi power at that time plus I can see some ideas that hitler had that bush jr has such as gays are sinners

I have bottom of the page posts, so here I am again. Sorry.

Bush will be in Brussels on the 22nd.

So will I.

It has to be one of the worst coincidences in my life. I have to be there, in the AB concert hall to see The Mars Volta. I bought the ticket in december, and the gig sold out shortly after. At that time I was unaware of the visit.

You can't take your car into the center of Brussels, so I will have to take the train, which I hope will not be too full of protesters and commuters. There will probably be barricades everywhere. I don't want to get stuck in a demonstration. I guess it would be really cool to see, but I'd rather not get caught up in a tear gas cloud or miss the concert.

You see, I don't go out that much,( even though I'm a student in my early 20's, mobile and not poor). This is only the third time in my life I am actually going to a real concert, in Brussels, and guess who decides to show up and mess up my planning?

Now it's personal.

Man, I have classes the morning after and I'm going to be home even later at night because of his visit.

Man, I have classes the morning after and I'm going to be late hours later because of his visit.
Perfect excuse: "The US president's visit".

Good to see my European Brothers in Germany are doing all they can to annoy America. I LOVE EUROPE! :) I LOVE OUR NATIONAL HEALTH AND OUR SOCIAL SECURITY! I LOVE THE FACT WE VALUE REAL FREEDOM AND NOT CORPORATE TYRANNY! :) MY FELLOW EUROPEANS! WE MUST STICK TOGETHER!

I don't understand you. Actually George is a knight of the cross while in most European societies Atheism is very popular. Why you don't support him instead of Europe?

Its pretty pathetic that Bush is hated by the world about as much as Osama Bin Laden is. I cant believe this atrocity is in power. Didnt people learn anything from history at all?

Osama's 9/11: 3000 dead civilians

Bush's Invasion of Iraq: 15000 dead civilians (most conservative estimate)


Besides, Osama is just a terrorist, Bush is a world leader. So that makes him alot more dangerous and influential

Perfect excuse: "The US president's visit".
Hmm. My brain must have already been sleeping. I'll have to edit that.

Osama's 9/11: 3000 dead civilians

Bush's Invasion of Iraq: 15000 dead civilians (most conservative estimate)


Besides, Osama is just a terrorist, Bush is a world leader. So that makes him alot more dangerous and influential
add that 3000 on 911 to Bushs tally--he knowingly allowed it to happen

Ein Deutscher']On paper maybe. Among politicians maybe. The people? Hardly.
Exactly.

I don't understand you. Actually George is a knight of the cross while in most European societies Atheism is very popular. Why you don't support him instead of Europe?
I think I know who Christian Republic is. :D Now if he only would make himself known by using his favorit nickname for Americans then I could be 100% sure of it.

everyone should line up at the sides of the roads and throw bags of excrement at Bush
Unfortunatly Bush his death squads are going to shoot anyone on sight who even dares to step out of their houses.
And you know they are just itching to shed some blood.

Then let's send him to Beijing and ruin China's economy. He's our secret weapon!

He's done a real good job with some oil companies, Texas and US so far.

I can't believe they're letting such an ass visit! The security measures kill the whole European commerce and trade, people can't get to work and we're going to be watched by doggone snipers. When most of Europe wants to see him dead, why are politicians sacrificing their reputation and popularity for his doomed attempt at rallying Europe? I wish I could think up a fool-proof assasination plan.

Any assassination plans would probably be hindered by the massive security measures. Bush knows that he's hated here, thus why they do all this. If he knew the people would welcome him with open arms and festivities, he'd not have to - in tyrannical fashion - get democratic rights stripped from the people just so he can have some security for a few hours. He's a tyrant and he wants to rally the politicians into following his course of endless crusades in the middle east. He will not get the people to follow him, because we can see through his lies.