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Whats wrong with camps?

Kahta
19-02-2005, 05:44
I don't understand whats wrong with putting groups of people into camps to either re-educate them or punish them. In an ideal country, there would be 3 kinds of camps.

1. Re-education camps-- like rehab, but to educate people the right way.
2. Labor camps-- for life sentences
3. Regular camp-- for prison terms that aren't life sentences
Colodia
19-02-2005, 05:46
No summer camp?

Oh that's right, it's only for kids who get sexually abused by the young, hot counselors....
VoteEarly
19-02-2005, 05:47
Yes, I tend to agree, I sincerely believe we need camps for those who won't conform to the standards of decency and morality as laid out in the bible (As in you don't rape, murder, steal, etc). I also tend to believe camps would be a great thing for the fifth columnists who are springing up in most Western nations. We could quite possibly, re-educate these people.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 05:47
you would be a candidate for the re ed camp. for sure. to teach you that you arent always right.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 05:49
No summer camp?

Oh that's right, it's only for kids who get sexually abused by the young, hot counselors....


sexual abuse is not a joking matter, it should be a hanging crime.
Bitchkitten
19-02-2005, 05:50
you would be a candidate for the re ed camp. for sure. to teach you that you arent always right.
YAY OM
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 05:50
Yes, I tend to agree, I sincerely believe we need camps for those who won't conform to the standards of decency and morality as laid out in the bible (As in you don't rape, murder, steal, etc). I also tend to believe camps would be a great thing for the fifth columnists who are springing up in most Western nations. We could quite possibly, re-educate these people.
You came back!!!!!!! I'm amazed! Well, hi! Did they delete the thread of your shame?
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 05:51
I don't understand whats wrong with putting groups of people into camps to either re-educate them or punish them. In an ideal country, there would be 3 kinds of camps.

1. Re-education camps-- like rehab, but to educate people the right way.
2. Labor camps-- for life sentences
3. Regular camp-- for prison terms that aren't life sentences

What's wrong with the first one is that there isn't a solid, defined "right" way of thinking. What you think is the "right" way of thinking may not be what another person believes, and they shouldn't be punished just because they don't conform to your way of thought. As to the other two, we already have those. We call them "prisons".
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 05:52
you would be a candidate for the re ed camp. for sure. to teach you that you arent always right.
Hah, it's funny cuz the reeducation usually involves torture. :D
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 05:52
NIMBY...I don't want these camps in my countryside...keep them in your crowded cities!
Kinda Sensible people
19-02-2005, 05:52
Simply put? Because such camps become abusive. Just because someone has broken a law doesn't mean we have permission to treat them inhumanely, that's only sacrificing our own humanity in the name of "justice".
Jeffastan
19-02-2005, 05:54
sexual abuse is not a joking matter, it should be a hanging crime.


RAPE IS NEVER FUNNY.

Well, unless you're raping a clown...
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 05:55
Hah, it's funny cuz the reeducation usually involves torture. :D
i could have meself a damn good job. but something tells me torture wouldnt work on some people. they are destined to die that with holier than thou attitude.. hopefully then , they end up on my table.
Colodia
19-02-2005, 05:56
Well, unless you're raping a clown...
Oh crap, nearly spilled water all over the keyboard...

*continues laughing*
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 05:57
i could have meself a damn good job. but something tells me torture wouldnt work on some people. they are destined to with holier than thou. hopefully then , they end up on my table.
Yowch. Remind me not to die in calfornia.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 05:57
NIMBY...I don't want these camps in my countryside...keep them in your crowded cities!


No, the middle of nowhere, is a good place.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 05:59
What's wrong with the first one is that there isn't a solid, defined "right" way of thinking. What you think is the "right" way of thinking may not be what another person believes, and they shouldn't be punished just because they don't conform to your way of thought. As to the other two, we already have those. We call them "prisons".


No, there is a clear set "moral" way of doing things, which is one that most people do not engage in. The "right" way is the "moral" way.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:00
Simply put? Because such camps become abusive. Just because someone has broken a law doesn't mean we have permission to treat them inhumanely, that's only sacrificing our own humanity in the name of "justice".


Then we should treat lawbreakers nicely, and politely ask them that they not break the law anymore?
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:00
No, the middle of nowhere, is a good place.
And where do you live that there is a middle of nowhere? And don't go thinking you're going to drop your trash in Canada...
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:01
No, there is a clear set "moral" way of doing things, which is one that most people do not engage in. The "right" way is the "moral" way.
Wow...that sounds really well thought out. So, if I'm left-handed, am I immoral?
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:02
Wow...that sounds really well thought out. So, if I'm left-handed, am I immoral?

No, the right way to do things is the moral way.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:02
No, there is a clear set "moral" way of doing things, which is one that most people do not engage in. The "right" way is the "moral" way.
No, but seriously now, where do I find this 'clear set' of moral codes? For reference purposes, you see.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 06:02
Yowch. Remind me not to die in calfornia.
well, i like you. dont worry. at least not a lot.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:03
And where do you live that there is a middle of nowhere? And don't go thinking you're going to drop your trash in Canada...


If the US has a treaty with Canada to build camps there, then why not? Its not your land, you can't control what's built on it. It is their land.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 06:04
No, there is a clear set "moral" way of doing things, which is one that most people do not engage in. The "right" way is the "moral" way.
i hope you dont mean my morals. because then you , sir , are screwed.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:05
well, i like you. dont worry. at least not a lot.
If we're still in good standing when i die, i'll request you. How 'bout that. Besides which, I'm not especially worried. You can cut my face off and dress me like a french maid if you want. i'll be dead. My only concern is gonna be maggots, and rotting as effeciently as possible.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:05
No, but seriously now, where do I find this 'clear set' of moral codes? For reference purposes, you see.


The Bible.
VoteEarly
19-02-2005, 06:06
And where do you live that there is a middle of nowhere? And don't go thinking you're going to drop your trash in Canada...



I have relatives in Canada, in Ontario, British Columbia, and Alberta, if I'm not mistaken. Indeed I pretty much have relatives in any country where people from Western Europe had carried the torch of Western civilization and tamed the wilderness to make a nation out of nothing.

I am certain 100% that I have relatives in Argentina, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, just to name a few.


Anyway, we could dump trash in Canada, probably Ontario, since now that I think about it, I'm not so sure my relatives stayed in that spot, I think they either moved back to Argentina or maybe... Wow, I don't know, I need to dig into this and figure it all out so I can find just where my great white ancestors settled and when, and who is still where.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 06:06
The Bible.
figures.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:07
If the US has a treaty with Canada to build camps there, then why not? Its not your land, you can't control what's built on it. It is their land.
Check my location again there, Sherlock.

Anyway, I can guarantee you we wouldn't be letting you dump your criminals here. Hell, we're not Australia or anything! :D

I'm still waiting for that moral code....is it in morse?
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:08
The Bible.
Um..that's not particularly clear cut...it's a little long..and are you referring to the Old or New Testament, and which version...King James or other....you're not being very helpful here...
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:09
No, there is a clear set "moral" way of doing things, which is one that most people do not engage in. The "right" way is the "moral" way.

What is the "right", or "moral" way? And how strict is this code? What if I match 99 out of 100 criteria for being "right"? Do I get damned because of that one flaw?
Gurnee
19-02-2005, 06:09
Yes, I tend to agree, I sincerely believe we need camps for those who won't conform to the standards of decency and morality as laid out in the bible (As in you don't rape, murder, steal, etc). I also tend to believe camps would be a great thing for the fifth columnists who are springing up in most Western nations. We could quite possibly, re-educate these people.
What's wrong with you people? The very essence of democracy is to have people who dissent and do not "conform" to the norm (hey, that rhymes). And the Bible? WTF! I'm not a Christian, so should I, along with the world's other 5 billion not Christians be put into camps? You make me sick.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:10
Anyways, I think we should buy the land from the indians in America, from their reservations, its not like they use the land. I was talking to a girl in my AP class, she did some work through her church at an indian reservation, she said that everyone was a drunk, no one had a job, they were all poor, and expected others to do their work, she also said that they were warned by the manager of the program to look both ways the whole time while crossing the street, because of drinking, and hate of whites.

Because I heard this firsthand, I think we should take the land from the indians, and give them a little money to buy drinks with. They die at a 5 times higher rate than whites of alcoholism.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:11
Anyway, we could dump trash in Canada, probably Ontario, since now that I think about it, I'm not so sure my relatives stayed in that spot, I think they either moved back to Argentina or maybe... Wow, I don't know, I need to dig into this and figure it all out so I can find just where my great white ancestors settled and when, and who is still where.
You know, I really have to hand it to you VoteEarly...after the whipping you took earlier, I'm amazed you feel up to coming back. I see in the meantime you have fallen back on your tired, racist rhetoric. Well, I suppose we need the token bigot around for entertainment purposes. I don't suppose anyone has contacted you from the Dean's office yet?
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:13
Anyway, I can guarantee you we wouldn't be letting you dump your criminals here. Hell, we're not Australia or anything! :D

We can work it out through private corporations that can get visa's for the criminals to do long term work in Canada.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:13
Anyways, I think we should buy the land from the indians in America, from their reservations, its not like they use the land. I was talking to a girl in my AP class, she did some work through her church at an indian reservation, she said that everyone was a drunk, no one had a job, they were all poor, and expected others to do their work, she also said that they were warned by the manager of the program to look both ways the whole time while crossing the street, because of drinking, and hate of whites.

Because I heard this firsthand, I think we should take the land from the indians, and give them a little money to buy drinks with. They die at a 5 times higher rate than whites of alcoholism.
oh wow. that is an intelligent and well thought out plan. Not evil in the least. and i still can't find a raised eyebrow emoticon.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:14
Anyways, I think we should buy the land from the indians in America, from their reservations, its not like they use the land. I was talking to a girl in my AP class, she did some work through her church at an indian reservation, she said that everyone was a drunk, no one had a job, they were all poor, and expected others to do their work, she also said that they were warned by the manager of the program to look both ways the whole time while crossing the street, because of drinking, and hate of whites.

Because I heard this firsthand, I think we should take the land from the indians, and give them a little money to buy drinks with. They die at a 5 times higher rate than whites of alcoholism.

Not to assail your plan, but do you ever think that at least some of the problems facing Native Americans these days is because we've forced them onto shitty scraps of land that we have no use for, and left them there for their culture to wither and die?
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:14
Um..that's not particularly clear cut...it's a little long..and are you referring to the Old or New Testament, and which version...King James or other....you're not being very helpful here...

Its all morally better than the cesspool of what was once western culture.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:14
Anyways, I think we should buy the land from the indians in America, from their reservations, its not like they use the land. I was talking to a girl in my AP class, she did some work through her church at an indian reservation, she said that everyone was a drunk, no one had a job, they were all poor, and expected others to do their work, she also said that they were warned by the manager of the program to look both ways the whole time while crossing the street, because of drinking, and hate of whites.

Because I heard this firsthand, I think we should take the land from the indians, and give them a little money to buy drinks with. They die at a 5 times higher rate than whites of alcoholism.
Wow...you heard some second hand information first hand. That is really an authentic experience.

But after rereading your post, I'm fairly convinced you are flamebaiting. No one could be that obviously racist, intolerant and just plain silly and not have been beaten for it enough to know not to be too open about it...

By the way...I'm one of those natives you're talking about...you can give me money for drinks, for sure...but you can't have my job, no matter how much I may wish someone else would do it for me. :D
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:14
What is the "right", or "moral" way? And how strict is this code? What if I match 99 out of 100 criteria for being "right"? Do I get damned because of that one flaw?


Follow it for the most part, the rules are pretty much laid out though in the 10 commandments and 5 points.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:16
Follow it for the most part, the rules are pretty much laid out though in the 10 commandments and 5 points.

So what if I follow nine out of the ten commandments, but break one of them? Does my ass get hauled off to Auschwitz II?
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:17
What's wrong with you people? The very essence of democracy is to have people who dissent and do not "conform" to the norm (hey, that rhymes). And the Bible? WTF! I'm not a Christian, so should I, along with the world's other 5 billion not Christians be put into camps? You make me sick.

1. Nothing is wrong with me, I'm a smart, moral person.
2. No one started talking about non-conformist stuff until the 1960's with black panthers, hippies, and closet-communists. Conformity was the norm until the 1960's, and look what's happened since then.
3. They should live by Christian morals (I don't know about any other relgion's morals, so I can't speak about something I don't know about)
4. Non-christians just need to live morally
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:18
Isn't one of the ten commandments, "Love thy neighbour's wife, often, and secretly"?

That's what the mailman kept assuring me...
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:18
Not to assail your plan, but do you ever think that at least some of the problems facing Native Americans these days is because we've forced them onto shitty scraps of land that we have no use for, and left them there for their culture to wither and die?

Well, they've been given reparations and money for almost a hundred years now.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:19
Well, they've been given reparations and money for almost a hundred years now.

That doesn't make the land any more useful.
VoteEarly
19-02-2005, 06:19
Not to assail your plan, but do you ever think that at least some of the problems facing Native Americans these days is because we've forced them onto shitty scraps of land that we have no use for, and left them there for their culture to wither and die?



Indians have it great in the USA today, always harping about how "pale face" took their land oh so long ago. They get a casino going, rake in the dough from idiot whites who give them business. And then they go out and sue us telling us we have to give them land back.

I saw a map of Indian reservations in the USA and I found out they own like 10% of Arizona. Hey, I don't even own 1% of my state, what gives?
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:19
Isn't one of the ten commandments, "Love thy neighbour's wife, often, and secretly"?

That's what the mailman kept assuring me...
that's actually three of them. god thought that one most important of all. repitition is the best way to memorize stuff after all.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:19
1. Nothing is wrong with me, I'm a smart, moral person.

Methinks he doth protest too much...

3. They should live by Christian morals (I don't know about any other relgion's morals, so I can't speak about something I don't know about)
It doesn't seem as though that is really stopping you...

Long live the theocracy of America!
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:21
Indians have it great in the USA today, always harping about how "pale face" took their land oh so long ago. They get a casino going, rake in the dough from idiot whites who give them business. And then they go out and sue us telling us we have to give them land back.

I saw a map of Indian reservations in the USA and I found out they own like 10% of Arizona. Hey, I don't even own 1% of my state, what gives?
shit, i wouldn't give you land. From what i've read, you're a jerk. :D seriously tho, reservatins are basically just internment camps, jsut permanent.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:22
So what if I follow nine out of the ten commandments, but break one of them? Does my ass get hauled off to Auschwitz II?

It will be up to God to forgive you, but on earth, you will have a fair trial, but if found guilty, expect to be doing menial labor for a while.

I'm not talking about literally the 10 commandments, most of the laws we have now are fine, but need to be tighted a bit. Also, there need to be new laws about things like culture and morals, 2 things that have fallen apart in the last 25 years.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:22
Indians have it great in the USA today, always harping about how "pale face" took their land oh so long ago. They get a casino going, rake in the dough from idiot whites who give them business. And then they go out and sue us telling us we have to give them land back.

I saw a map of Indian reservations in the USA and I found out they own like 10% of Arizona. Hey, I don't even own 1% of my state, what gives?
Oh yeah, they have it really great...our suicide rate is higher than any other ethnic group....oh wait, I forgot who I'm talking to...you only respond to remarks that you agree with, so maybe I won't bother. And 'Pale-face' ? You're watching too many John Wayne reruns...have you ever met a real, live Injun there cowboy? Because you haven't the slightest idea of what you are talking about...again.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:23
Indians have it great in the USA today, always harping about how "pale face" took their land oh so long ago. They get a casino going, rake in the dough from idiot whites who give them business. And then they go out and sue us telling us we have to give them land back.

I saw a map of Indian reservations in the USA and I found out they own like 10% of Arizona. Hey, I don't even own 1% of my state, what gives?

We pushed them off their land and destroyed their way of life. We can hardly call that "great". They cannot just establish a casino for the hell of it; there are numerous hoops they have to jump through, not the least of which is fighting a whole bunch of angry white folk who don't want a casino near them.

Entire cultures own 10% of Arizona or whatever your statistic is. You are not an entire culture. You are not an entire culture. You are a suburban white kid from Ohio, if I'm not mistaken. There is a difference.
VoteEarly
19-02-2005, 06:23
have you ever met a real, live Injun there cowboy?



I saw one outside a cigar store once, but he didn't say much.


(that was just my attempt at some humor, no offense intended to anybody. I'm falling out of my chair laughing, oh what a good joke, and a nice one too)
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:23
shit, i wouldn't give you land. From what i've read, you're a jerk. :D seriously tho, reservatins are basically just internment camps, jsut permanent.
Doesn't it make you proud to know that the Apartheid-era government in South Africa studied the reservation system and based their 'homelands' on it? Ah...way to export the finer points of western civilization.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:24
It will be up to God to forgive you, but on earth, you will have a fair trial, but if found guilty, expect to be doing menial labor for a while.

I'm not talking about literally the 10 commandments, most of the laws we have now are fine, but need to be tighted a bit. Also, there need to be new laws about things like culture and morals, 2 things that have fallen apart in the last 25 years.

Well, name some of your proposed new laws.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:24
Also, there need to be new laws about things like culture and morals, 2 things that have fallen apart in the last 25 years.
It sounds like you and the Taliban have a lot in common. Veils for women anyone?
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:26
I saw one outside a cigar store once, but he didn't say much.


(that was just my attempt at some humor, no offense intended to anybody. I'm falling out of my chair laughing, oh what a good joke, and a nice one too)
I'm laughing my ass off at the picture of you laughing your ass off at your own "joke". When you talk to yourself, do you answer back?
VoteEarly
19-02-2005, 06:26
Doesn't it make you proud to know that the Apartheid-era government in South Africa studied the reservation system and based their 'homelands' on it? Ah...way to export the finer points of western civilization.


The homeland system worked fine, everybody was happy and only the blacks agitated by communist ANC propagandists, were unhappy. But they were happy before being stirred up.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:26
It sounds like you and the Taliban have a lot in common. Veils for women anyone?

No, they just can't dress like most of them do now... like whores.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:26
Doesn't it make you proud to know that the Apartheid-era government in South Africa studied the reservation system and based their 'homelands' on it? Ah...way to export the finer points of western civilization.
I feel all warm and bubbly inside. I dunno, gives me images of the Japanese internment camps (many of which were near wher ethe reservations are these days.) yay america! :fluffle:
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:27
The homeland system worked fine, everybody was happy and only the blacks agitated by communist ANC propagandists, were unhappy. But they were happy before being stirred up.
So by everyone, you mean just a few whites were happy. So not really everyone.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:28
have you ever met a real, live Injun there cowboy?

Yeah, it was about 18 feet tall and holding a muffler. Also, I saw one at Plymouth Plantation when I was in 3rd grade.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:28
No, they just can't dress like most of them do now... like whores.
Ah...not just a racist, but a misogynist too...thank you for giving us permission to be the whores we are....

Oops...the mailman's here to bang me again before my husband comes home...I LOVE fulfilling the commandments!
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:29
Well, name some of your proposed new laws.

Dont dress like a wigger, whore, loser, stoner, goth, communist, or rebel.

Don't act like " "

Don't drive non-American cars.
VoteEarly
19-02-2005, 06:30
Well, name some of your proposed new laws.


I'd make something like the, hmmm, how about Separation of Groups Act, and make all separate groups physically live apart, with a government body deciding who gets what land and how much. Folks would have to move to this land.

I'd also make the "Reservation Homelands Act" and declare all Indian reservations to be separated from the main country, as in they can't freely travel out of them, but they're still bound by US law and they can't conduct foreign diplomacy or anything of the sort.

I'd also make something like a sort of, "Identification Domestic Passport Act" whereby all people from groups likely to commit crime, would have to carry around a pass, which they present to authorities upon request.

I'd make another law, "City Safety Act" whereby people from groups likely to commit crime, have to leave all major cities before say 8 pm. Sirens will signal when they're approaching the time to leave. It'd basically be an effort to reclaim America's cities by pushing criminals into rural homelands and such.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:30
Yeah, it was about 18 feet tall and holding a muffler. Also, I saw one at Plymouth Plantation when I was in 3rd grade.
So you really, honestly know what you're talking about, from extensive, and dare I say, exhaustive, personal experience!

I feel much better now.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:31
Dont dress like a wigger, whore, loser, stoner, goth, communist, or rebel.

Don't act like " "

Don't drive non-American cars.
Wait, I think you'd better define proper dress for those of us who aren't up on your fashion buzz words....so hair shirts and sandals are in?
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:31
Ah...not just a racist, but a misogynist too...thank you for giving us permission to be the whores we are....

Oops...the mailman's here to bang me again before my husband comes home...I LOVE fulfilling the commandments!

The averge indian IQ is slightly above that of a black, thats the main reason why indians don't do anything, they're like the same blacks that want reparations for slavery.

Nice try, but I'm not going to bite the bait.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:31
Dont dress like a wigger, whore, loser, stoner, goth, communist, or rebel.

Define all those types of dress.


Don't act like " "


Not even sure how to respond to this. All I see is "Don't act like '<blank>"


Don't drive non-American cars.

So you're not for a free market economy?
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:32
I'd make something like the, hmmm, how about Separation of Groups Act, and make all separate groups physically live apart, with a government body deciding who gets what land and how much. Folks would have to move to this land.

I'd also make the "Reservation Homelands Act" and declare all Indian reservations to be separated from the main country, as in they can't freely travel out of them, but they're still bound by US law and they can't conduct foreign diplomacy or anything of the sort.

I'd also make something like a sort of, "Identification Domestic Passport Act" whereby all people from groups likely to commit crime, would have to carry around a pass, which they present to authorities upon request.

I'd make another law, "City Safety Act" whereby people from groups likely to commit crime, have to leave all major cities before say 8 pm. Sirens will signal when they're approaching the time to leave. It'd basically be an effort to reclaim America's cities by pushing criminals into rural homelands and such.

It's a good thing that I wasn't asking you, and couldn't give a damn what you would do. I'm talking to Kahta here, not you.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:33
So you really, honestly know what you're talking about, from extensive, and dare I say, exhaustive, personal experience!

I feel much better now.
Breath, honey. Breath. Count to ten slowly. Unclench your fists, you're gonna break the mouse. here :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: . any better?
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:33
I'd make something like the, hmmm, how about Separation of Groups Act, and make all separate groups physically live apart, with a government body deciding who gets what land and how much. Folks would have to move to this land.

I'd also make the "Reservation Homelands Act" and declare all Indian reservations to be separated from the main country, as in they can't freely travel out of them, but they're still bound by US law and they can't conduct foreign diplomacy or anything of the sort.

I'd also make something like a sort of, "Identification Domestic Passport Act" whereby all people from groups likely to commit crime, would have to carry around a pass, which they present to authorities upon request.

I'd make another law, "City Safety Act" whereby people from groups likely to commit crime, have to leave all major cities before say 8 pm. Sirens will signal when they're approaching the time to leave. It'd basically be an effort to reclaim America's cities by pushing criminals into rural homelands and such.
Isn't it great that you get to share your opinions here, with no fear of reprisal? I think that is the best thing about NS. That and the fact that you will never, ever be able to accomplish these things...especially after you are cast out of college for defamation....
The Parthians
19-02-2005, 06:33
Dont dress like a wigger, whore, loser, stoner, goth, communist, or rebel.

Don't act like " "

Don't drive non-American cars.


I don't do the first two, but my dad happens to drive a very nice German made vehicle. Its just cars from Japan and Korea that are bad if you ask me.

Now, about camps, I think they shouldn't be needed. Violent crime should be punished with death, probably by hanging or garrotting. Less severe crimes should be punished by enslaving them and then selling them off to corporations for the duration of their sentince. It really isn't the government's buisness though what one does with their personal life, and really in that case a Libertarian stance is better.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:34
So you really, honestly know what you're talking about, from extensive, and dare I say, exhaustive, personal experience!

I feel much better now.


Well, most indians around here where I'm from, were driven out about 400 years ago. There's a rock in a nearby town where some indians killed white hostages during King Phillip's War.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:35
The averge indian IQ is slightly above that of a black, thats the main reason why indians don't do anything, they're like the same blacks that want reparations for slavery.
Awesome! So I'm smarter than Occ....but wait, she's got some native in her too...and I've got some white in me, which no doubt lowers my IQ significantly...wait, I'm just a dumb indian, I can't figure this out...

Nice try, but I'm not going to bite the bait.You let me bite his bait...he likes it rough.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:37
Breath, honey. Breath. Count to ten slowly. Unclench your fists, you're gonna break the mouse. here :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: . any better?
Sorry...I was locked in carnal embrace with a man not my husband, all while reciting verses from the Satanic Bible in Yiddish, thinking about how best to help the Illuminati fulfill their dream of world domination....
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:37
Define all those types of dress.



Not even sure how to respond to this. All I see is "Don't act like '<blank>"



So you're not for a free market economy?

You can do it on your own, you're a reasonably smart guy.

Same as above.

its more of a non-asian car view. European cars are fine.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:38
Isn't it great that you get to share your opinions here, with no fear of reprisal? I think that is the best thing about NS. That and the fact that you will never, ever be able to accomplish these things...especially after you are cast out of college for defamation....


Yep. People like you are why I had my picture removed.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:40
I've got some white in me, which no doubt lowers my IQ significantly

No, white genes would bring up your IQ.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:40
Sorry...I was locked in carnal embrace with a man not my husband, all while reciting verses from the Satanic Bible in Yiddish, thinking about how best to help the Illuminati fulfill their dream of world domination....
I understand that that's a little distracting, i think we've all been there. That dude was totally not sharon, even though he swore he was. Sharon never had a penis that i saw. Plus, he was white. Oh well. I took him at his word. i guess being a lover of the dark meat makes me dumber than any of you.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:41
No, white genes would bring up your IQ.
Uh-huh...does screwing a white guy do anything to help? I want to be all I can be...
The Parthians
19-02-2005, 06:41
Uh-huh...does screwing a white guy do anything to help? I want to be all I can be...


Its gene based. It won't help you I'm afraid.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:41
Uh-huh...does screwing a white guy do anything to help? I want to be all I can be...
It doesn't seem to help Sharon. She gets all out of it and tired. :D
Cogitation
19-02-2005, 06:42
Isn't it great that you get to share your opinions here, with no fear of reprisal? I think that is the best thing about NS. That and the fact that you will never, ever be able to accomplish these things...especially after you are cast out of college for defamation....
You are bordering on having Mod action taken against you. Check your telegrams immediately.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:42
Uh-huh...does screwing a white guy do anything to help? I want to be all I can be...

I think you're one of those indians that wants to kick out all whites, arent you?
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:43
You are bordering on having Mod action taken against you. Check your telegrams immediately.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Will do...gimme a sec.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:43
You are bordering on having Mod action taken against you. Check your telegrams immediately.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
we're sorry! we love you, cog, it'll never happen again! Oh wait, i'm fine. sweet. Sin, yer on yer own.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:43
You can do it on your own, you're a reasonably smart guy.

Seems like it's an objective thing. Take "loser" for example. My ratty-ass UNC hat, which I've had for seven years, is something near and dear to me, and I wear it still even though I ought to toss it. It makes me look like I'm a "loser", even in my own estimation. But does that one piece of sentimental clothing categorize me as a loser? Or "wigger", as you so eloquently put it. I assume baggy pants would qualify one as a "wigger", but the question is, how baggy is too baggy? My pants that I'm wearing right now are 36 length, but I should wear 32 length. As a result, they look extremely baggy on me. The only reason I wear them is because I was too lazy to return them when I recieved them as a gift. Do these pants make me a "wigger", and thereby subject to your re-education camps?
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:43
You are bordering on having Mod action taken against you. Check your telegrams immediately.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

If you think I am doing anything out of line, do not hesitate to tell me.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:46
Seems like it's an objective thing. Take "loser" for example. My ratty-ass UNC hat, which I've had for seven years, is something near and dear to me, and I wear it still even though I ought to toss it. It makes me look like I'm a "loser", even in my own estimation. But does that one piece of sentimental clothing categorize me as a loser? Or "wigger", as you so eloquently put it. I assume baggy pants would qualify one as a "wigger", but the question is, how baggy is too baggy? My pants that I'm wearing right now are 36 length, but I should wear 32 length. As a result, they look extremely baggy on me. The only reason I wear them is because I was too lazy to return them when I recieved them as a gift. Do these pants make me a "wigger", and thereby subject to your re-education camps?

Yes, it makes you look like a loser because its not a hat of the Red Sox, if it was in north carolina, you'd be fine, but this is Massachusetts, and you should wear Massachusetts stuff.

Yes, those pants make you look like a "wigger", I'd recomend you return them, or stop wearing them.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:47
I think you're one of those indians that wants to kick out all whites, arent you?
Not particularly...it'd be awfully lonely here...you see, I didn't grow up a couple of hundred years ago, so I've gotten used to having other cultures around.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:48
we're sorry! we love you, cog, it'll never happen again! Oh wait, i'm fine. sweet. Sin, yer on yer own.
Yeah well, I don't think he was talking to you anyway...

Don't worry, I brought it on myself!
Kahta
19-02-2005, 06:49
I'm going to bed. Good night.
Sinuhue
19-02-2005, 06:50
Chill out everyone...the mod warning was for me....

Well, it's been a slice! Have a great weekend, all!
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 06:50
Not particularly...it'd be awfully lonely here...you see, I didn't grow up a couple of hundred years ago, so I've gotten used to having other cultures around.
Oh snap! she's let her hair down, and the gloves are off!
What will he say?
I'm just amused cuz I may be white but i sure do love brown people! :D :D :D :D (sorry for making that statement, humanity, but it popped into my head, and got crapped out of my fingers.)
Sillanhein
19-02-2005, 06:52
On a random note, has anyone read of Tranquility Bay? It's pretty much a re-education camp, and it's real. I think the people sending their children there shouldn't be parents in the first place. :/

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,987172,00.html?=rss
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 06:52
Yes, it makes you look like a loser because its not a hat of the Red Sox, if it was in north carolina, you'd be fine, but this is Massachusetts, and you should wear Massachusetts stuff.

Yes, those pants make you look like a "wigger", I'd recomend you return them, or stop wearing them.

Well I used to have a Red Sox hat, but that got too worn out for even me to wear. The UNC hat was a gift from an old girlfriend, someone I still care about, and as such, I will not get rid of it.

And I'd recommend you buy me new pants and a new hat if you believe I should not wear the ones I currently have. See, to me, presenting the proper image is of less importance than keeping my money to buy food and pay rent. I have perfectly good pants and a perfectly good hat, so unless you or someone else feels compelled to give me new, more acceptable ones, I'll continue wearing these until I cannot wear them anymore. Image is not a primary concern for a lot of people.
Terra Matsu
19-02-2005, 07:04
On a random note, has anyone read of Tranquility Bay? It's pretty much a re-education camp, and it's real. I think the people sending their children there shouldn't be parents in the first place. :/

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,987172,00.html?=rss
I doubted the validity of that. Now, I'm simply disgusted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Association_of_Specialty_Programs_and_Schools
Bottle
19-02-2005, 07:06
And I'd recommend you buy me new pants and a new hat if you believe I should not wear the ones I currently have. See, to me, presenting the proper image is of less importance than keeping my money to buy food and pay rent. I have perfectly good pants and a perfectly good hat, so unless you or someone else feels compelled to give me new, more acceptable ones, I'll continue wearing these until I cannot wear them anymore. Image is not a primary concern for a lot of people.
i don't get why anybody would care so much about what you (or anybody else) is wearing. i think 90% of the clothes out there look stupid as hell, but who cares? other people feel comfortable in them. they aren't hurting me...my eyes aren't so tender, i suppose, because apparently there are people who simply cannot bear the fact that other people don't dress just like they do.

as you said, if those people want to buy me a wardrobe that conforms to their standards then they are free to do so, and i will be more than glad to wear the free clothes. but until they are prepared to do that i have no intention of wasting my money and time trying to please their delicate tastes. i buy clothing that fits, that's comfortable, and that is within my price range...if somebody doesn't like that they can feel free to not look at me :).
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:08
:fluffle: Oh snap! she's let her hair down, and the gloves are off!
What will he say?
I'm just amused cuz I may be white but i sure do love brown people! :D :D :D :D (sorry for making that statement, humanity, but it popped into my head, and got crapped out of my fingers.)
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 07:09
:fluffle:
glad you liked that.
VoteEarly
19-02-2005, 07:09
I doubted the validity of that. Now, I'm simply disgusted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Association_of_Specialty_Programs_and_Schools


The International Red Cross ought to be doing something about that school as it is little better than a concentration camp.

It ought to be shut down, by unilateral military action if necessary. Let Brazil or Argentina shut it down, to stop the human rights abuses. Hey, if Bush can go into Iraq under the guise of searching for WMDs, find none, and then claim it was about human rights, why not just go in somewhere on human rights to begin with? Anyway, something ought to be done.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:14
Dont dress like a wigger, whore, loser, stoner, goth, communist, or rebel.

Don't act like " "

Don't drive non-American cars.
dont type on a non american computer? looks like you are fucked on that one, boy.
Lil Bush
19-02-2005, 07:22
As I was born and raised in Oklahoma, I've lived around Native Americans all of my life. I can guarantee you they are not stupid or lazy. At least, not any more stupid or lazy than any other ethnic group.

And...CAMPS!?!?! Jesus H. Christ on a pogostick! Have people already forgotten Nazi Germany?
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:22
The averge indian IQ is slightly above that of a black, thats the main reason why indians don't do anything, they're like the same blacks that want reparations for slavery.

Nice try, but I'm not going to bite the bait.
hmm. i am cherokee, and part black. my iq is right around 170. if you took it and thirded it,(i am half italian), and gave each race credit for about 58 points or so.... you can see the beauty in mixing the races, right?
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 07:24
As I was born and raised in Oklahoma, I've lived around Native Americans all of my life. I can guarantee you they are not stupid or lazy. At least, not any less stupid or lazy than any other ethnic group.

And...CAMPS!?!?! Jesus H. Christ on a pogostick! Have people already forgotten Nazi Germany?
nazi what? what the hell are you talking about? :D
Preebles
19-02-2005, 07:26
hmm. i am cherokee, and part black. my iq is right around 170. if you took it and thirded it,(i am half italian), and gave each race credit for about 58 points or so.... you can see the beauty in mixing the races, right?
Yay, good old race-mixing. My partner and I are curious about how our kids will turn out, seeing as I'm Indian and he's of Irish/Anglo descent. I want them to have red hair. :p Unlikely though...

And there are people on this board who frighten me, really. I hope they are represented ehre in disproportionate numbers, because if they aren't I think I'll have to start being a lot more paranoid.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 07:26
hmm. i am cherokee, and part black. my iq is right around 170. if you took it and thirded it,(i am half italian), and gave each race credit for about 58 points or so.... you can see the beauty in mixing the races, right?
well that would mean that none of your assorted races had enough brain power to form a cohesive sentence, but i'm pretty sure that that's not how it works. this is an utterly pointless argument anyway, but, as per usual, that does not detract in any way from it's relatively high amusement value.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:27
If you think I am doing anything out of line, do not hesitate to tell me.
like HE needs you to give him permission :rolleyes:
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 07:28
Yay, good old race-mixing. My partner and I are curious about how our kids will turn out, seeing as I'm Indian and he's of Irish/Anglo descent. I want them to have red hair. :p Unlikely though...

And there are people on this board who frighten me, really. I hope they are represented ehre in disproportionate numbers, because if they aren't I think I'll have to start being a lot more paranoid.
apperantly the offspring of the unholy union of irish/german and african-american/australian aboriginee that is my current relationship would have very tighly curled hair. Not sure of the color. I'm hoping it'd be red, like mine. because that would look hilarious, and i would taunt them constantly. In between beatings. :D


edit: holy shit, i have 312 posts. when the hell did that happen? oh, right, when i got addicted to natinstates yester-now.
Preebles
19-02-2005, 07:31
I'm hoping it'd be red, like mine. because that would look hilarious, and i would taunt them constantly. In between beatings.
They'd look like little Malcolm X's! Him with his red hair n all...
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 07:33
They'd look like little Malcolm X's! Him with his red hair n all...
ha ha. yup. except i don't think malcolm x was ever chained up in the basement, like they will be, little bastards. :D
Lil Bush
19-02-2005, 07:36
<snip>....I'm hoping it'd be red, like mine. because that would look hilarious, and i would taunt them constantly. In between beatings. :D

I thought you were only supposed to beat red-headed children when they are your stepkids. :p
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:36
ha ha. yup. except i don't think malcolm x was ever chained up in the basement, like they will be, little bastards. :D
spoken like a true cop. as for your post remark, look at my join date,and my posts.catch up, loser :)
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 07:38
I thought you were only supposed to beat red-headed children when they are your stepkids. :p
ain't nobody, not the state, not thier mother, nobody, gon' tell me how to raise mah youngins! Oh, I'd love to see 'em try and take 'em from me! i'd love it! hah! that'll be the day! :D
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 07:38
spoken like a true cop. as for your post remark, look at my join date,and my posts.catch up, loser :)

41.41 posts per day. That's amazing.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:38
well that would mean that none of your assorted races had enough brain power to form a cohesive sentence, but i'm pretty sure that that's not how it works. this is an utterly pointless argument anyway, but, as per usual, that does not detract in any way from it's relatively high amusement value.
the amusement value is pretty high. and my races all being window lickers until they met and mated is funnier than i thought.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 07:39
spoken like a true cop. as for your post remark, look at my join date,and my posts.catch up, loser :)
i'm working on it.











bitch.don't hurt me.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:41
41.41 posts per day. That's amazing.
a friend of mine on here from Lodoss told me it means i have a lot to type, but nothing to say.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 07:43
a friend of mine on here from Lodoss told me it means i have a lot to type, but nothing to say.

You'll have more posts than me by the end of the year at that rate.
Falhaar
19-02-2005, 07:45
lol, this is a funny satirical thread.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:45
You'll have more posts than me by the end of the year at that rate.
yeah, but i need to do something constructive with them. you missed my thread about my loss of rp the other day. i was waiting for you to answer it.
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 07:48
yeah, but i need to do something constructive with them. you missed my thread about my loss of rp the other day. i was waiting for you to answer it.

Yeah, I wasn't posting the other day. Sorry.
Branin
19-02-2005, 07:48
You'll have more posts than me by the end of the year at that rate.
:eek: That would be impresssive...
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 07:52
:eek: That would be impresssive...

Well, if you do the math, by January 1, 2006, at my current rate of posting, i will have 14,014 posts. And Occidio, at her current rate of posting, will have 14,354 posts by year's end. She'll eventually overtake me. She posts almost three times as much per day as me. I've just got a 22 month head start on her.
Occidio Multus
19-02-2005, 07:54
Well, if you do the math, by January 1, 2006, at my current rate of posting, i will have 14,014 posts. And Occidio, at her current rate of posting, will have 14,354 posts by year's end. She'll eventually overtake me. She posts almost three times as much per day as me. I've just got a 22 month head start on her.
\m/ \m/ . now matt. what about the Reckoning AND the Stabbing you promised all of us?
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 07:59
\m/ \m/ . now matt. what about the Reckoning AND the Stabbing you promised all of us?

The Great Stabbification is part of the overall Reckoning. I'm getting to both.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 08:00
The Great Stabbification is part of the overall Reckoning. I'm getting to both.
i forget, didn't i get hired as some kind of overseer of brimstone for that? or was that someone else's apocalypse?
Sdaeriji
19-02-2005, 08:10
i forget, didn't i get hired as some kind of overseer of brimstone for that? or was that someone else's apocalypse?

Was it you that I was talking to about the proper storage methods for sulfur and brimstone?
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 08:11
Was it you that I was talking to about the proper storage methods for sulfur and brimstone?
yes it was. i get free medical. i remember that.
Domici
19-02-2005, 08:14
Yes, I tend to agree, I sincerely believe we need camps for those who won't conform to the standards of decency and morality as laid out in the bible (As in you don't rape, murder, steal, etc).

Ya, and take care of these heathens who don't beat their kids to death with rocks for sassing them. Or people who go around telling us that we're not allowed to own slaves from other countries.

I also tend to believe camps would be a great thing for the fifth columnists who are springing up in most Western nations. We could quite possibly, re-educate these people.

Yes, we could re-educate them on their erroneous belief that any society deserves the title has no place for such nazi-esque institutions as re-education camps...

hmmm, I'll have to get back to you on that.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 18:55
dont type on a non american computer? looks like you are fucked on that one, boy.

No, my computer was made in America, by an American company, so my money will stay in America.

There's no reason to be rude, so why don't you get some class?
Kahta
19-02-2005, 19:08
Well I used to have a Red Sox hat, but that got too worn out for even me to wear. The UNC hat was a gift from an old girlfriend, someone I still care about, and as such, I will not get rid of it.

And I'd recommend you buy me new pants and a new hat if you believe I should not wear the ones I currently have. See, to me, presenting the proper image is of less importance than keeping my money to buy food and pay rent. I have perfectly good pants and a perfectly good hat, so unless you or someone else feels compelled to give me new, more acceptable ones, I'll continue wearing these until I cannot wear them anymore. Image is not a primary concern for a lot of people.

Very well articulated response, I don't really know how to reply.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 19:15
On a random note, has anyone read of Tranquility Bay? It's pretty much a re-education camp, and it's real. I think the people sending their children there shouldn't be parents in the first place. :/

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,987172,00.html?=rss


I doubted the validity of that. Now, I'm simply disgusted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Association_of_Specialty_Programs_and_Schools


Thats not how camps should be run.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 20:34
No, my computer was made in America, by an American company, so my money will stay in America.

There's no reason to be rude, so why don't you get some class?
really. so every part of your computer, every nut and bolt on your car, was american made?
i doubt it very much. most car companies have their parts made all over the world. Their plants jsut put all the parts together.
Alien Born
19-02-2005, 20:48
really. so every part of your computer, every nut and bolt on your car, was american made?
i doubt it very much. most car companies have their parts made all over the world. Their plants jsut put all the parts together.

He is not concerned about the location of the factories, only about where the profits are made. American company = profit in the USA.
That is until he considers who are the shareholders of this US company and he discovers that the profits are actually being spread around the world.
New Sancrosanctia
19-02-2005, 21:11
He is not concerned about the location of the factories, only about where the profits are made. American company = profit in the USA.
That is until he considers who are the shareholders of this US company and he discovers that the profits are actually being spread around the world.
but even then, that little "made in the USA" sticker is almost always misleading. It's assembled in the USA, if even that.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 23:36
but even then, that little "made in the USA" sticker is almost always misleading. It's assembled in the USA, if even that.



Then whats your point? Should I just stop trying to buy American? That is my patriotic duty, something that most people fail at horribly.
THE LOST PLANET
19-02-2005, 23:41
Then whats your point? Should I just stop trying to buy American? That is my patriotic duty, something that most people fail at horribly.Whoa,

Since when? I must have missed that section of the constitution.

Patriotism is not a commercial enterprise. It doesn't have to be worn on ones sleeve. And it has nothing to do with buying habits.

You're talking Nationalism not patriotism.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 23:43
He is not concerned about the location of the factories, only about where the profits are made. American company = profit in the USA.
That is until he considers who are the shareholders of this US company and he discovers that the profits are actually being spread around the world.

Most companies don't share the entire profit with shareholders, and most shareholders of American companies are American, because the dollar is getting weaker. I read something that stock prices may be up, but if adjusted for the weaker dollar, most foreign investors have lost money.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 23:44
Whoa,

Since when? I must have missed that section of the constitution.

Patriotism is not a commercial enterprise. It doesn't have to be worn on ones sleeve. And it has nothing to do with buying habits.

You're talking Nationalism not patriotism.


No, nationalism and patriotism are the same thing, people just try to seperate them. The true patriots are also nationalists. You're not a patriot if you're not a nationalist.
Kahta
19-02-2005, 23:52
really. so every part of your computer, every nut and bolt on your car, was american made?
i doubt it very much. most car companies have their parts made all over the world. Their plants jsut put all the parts together.


No, but if I buy it from an American company, a small business, then the money for the most part, the "profit" will stay in America. I don't buy brand name computers because they're 100% foreign made, and built in America. I buy American cars, because the profit stays in America.
THE LOST PLANET
19-02-2005, 23:56
No, nationalism and patriotism are the same thing, people just try to seperate them. The true patriots are also nationalists. You're not a patriot if you're not a nationalist.How wrong can you be? True patriots question things, Nationalists follow blindly. People try to seperate them because they are two completely seperate things.

nationalism

Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.


patriotism

love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it
Kahta
20-02-2005, 03:17
How wrong can you be? True patriots question things, Nationalists follow blindly. People try to seperate them because they are two completely seperate things.

nationalism

Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.


patriotism

love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it


You can't have one without the other.
Two Unlucky People
20-02-2005, 03:38
sexual abuse is not a joking matter, it should be a hanging crime.

ROFLMAO, yeah, it should. Freakin' sex abusing idiots! :headbang: :sniper: