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Religious Rantings

Chevodonia
19-02-2005, 03:42
Just curious what faith everyone belongs to and what they believe.

I'm fascinated with religion.
Israelities et Buddist
19-02-2005, 03:45
Just curious what faith everyone belongs to and what they believe.

I'm fascinated with religion.Jewish & Buddhist. So dont mess with the surfing BUddha that has a kappot on. :D
Chevodonia
19-02-2005, 03:46
How are you Jewish annnnnnnd Buddhist?
Malkyer
19-02-2005, 03:46
Lutheran. Sort of.
Chevodonia
19-02-2005, 03:47
Lol... sort of?
Israelities et Buddist
19-02-2005, 03:48
How are you Jewish annnnnnnd Buddhist?
WELLLLLLLLLLL IM SIMPLY DEVINE! WHAT CAN I SAY? And with a name like Broderick Brooks who would geuss?
Malkyer
19-02-2005, 03:49
I have somewhat agnostic views...and I do not agree with Church dogma on some things. Granted, it's the Catholic Church whose dogma I have a problem with, so I don't know why I care...I'll shut up now. :rolleyes:
Swimmingpool
19-02-2005, 04:02
I don't have a faith.
Israelities et Buddist
19-02-2005, 04:06
I don't have a faith.
Well no one said you had to now did they. ISnt it great how now threads dont need to be hijacked about religion, but instead startoff as one!
Bolol
19-02-2005, 04:21
Raised a Catholic. Hoping to combine that with some pseudo-Budhism.
Vaelon
19-02-2005, 04:28
Zen Buddhist
Steel Fish
19-02-2005, 04:31
I have faith that there are gods that have us here for a purpose, most likely entertainment. It's also possible that they are fighting amungst each other for control of (the world?).
Gataway_Driver
19-02-2005, 04:37
Catholic - but if people have read the few posts that I have made they will probably see me as a reasonably liberal catholic. You see its not a contradiction in terms ;)
Rangerville
19-02-2005, 04:39
Agnostic, with Buddhist leanings. Buddhism is more a philosophy and way of life than a religion, so you can practice Buddhism but still retain any other religious belief you may have. Buddha was not a God, but an enlightened human. Which is why even atheists and agnostics can be Buddhists. I like Buddhist philosophy because of its focus on non-violence, freedom from the self, and compassion. I like that it is not nearly as strict or doctrinal as other belief systems. I believed in God for most of my life, it was only recently that i became an agnostic, simply because i realized that i am not willing to completely believe anymore, but i am also not willing to completely abandon any belief. I just don't know either way.
Dakini
19-02-2005, 04:40
I have no religion.

If you want me to classify myself, I'm an agnostic humanist with buddhist leanings.

I don't know whether there is a god or not, I don't consider it possible to know in this lifetime, so fuck it, I'll just enjoy the life I know I have. However, buddhism interests me and is the only religion thus far that I mostly agree with.

I was raised presbyterian.
Takuma
19-02-2005, 04:45
Athiest, formerly Roman Catholic.
Melbol
19-02-2005, 04:56
Atheist/secular humanist

Religion is just unnecessary excess intellectual baggage for me :cool:
Lries
19-02-2005, 05:25
I'm an Aethist, but I do agree with a lot of Buddhist (Non-Violence, Tolerance, Enlightenment) and Native American (The earth is sacred, we have to protect it) principles.
Slinao
19-02-2005, 05:41
non-denominational christian as well as drui training.

I feel that the over doctrination of any religion is the downfall of its faith. I find the deeper religious aspects of a faith, and then build personal rules to help keep myself in line with them, though never will I teach my path is correct for others, everybody must find their own path.

I think that nature is very important to any religion, and that the farther a religion moves way from nature, the less true that it is. I hate it when churches write their own laws and then force them as divine truth, and then act better then others simply because others don't hold them as true.

I don't pray to other gods or powers, though they could be out there. I've never found anything in the holy books that I follow that says there are no other powers, just that the Ancient of Days is the eldest and creator of all, and that he is to be honored. The old hebrews spoke of prophets of other gods and magic users that honored other gods then the hebrew god, and all they said was that their god was stronger.
Greedy Pig
19-02-2005, 05:56
Non demoninational Christian too.
Pongoar
19-02-2005, 06:34
I live my life by the teachings of Jesus of Nazerath. You tell me. Frankly I think organized religion causes more problems then it solves. Yes, churches do encourage community and charity, but they also protote blind loyalty and extremism. I feel that the catholic church has gotten far too political and slightly hyppocritical. I consider myself a liberal.
Bitchkitten
19-02-2005, 06:37
I'm an Aethist, but I do agree with a lot of Buddhist (Non-Violence, Tolerance, Enlightenment) and Native American (The earth is sacred, we have to protect it) principles.

Ditto. Except I spell it atheist. :D
Bishop Sam
19-02-2005, 06:49
I am a Reformed Maxbarrian.
Battlestar Christiania
19-02-2005, 07:32
United Church of Canada.
Kryozerkia
19-02-2005, 07:47
Secularist with Zen leanings, originally baptised Catholic and raised in a non-religious environment.
Bogstonia
19-02-2005, 07:56
Jedi
Kryozerkia
19-02-2005, 07:57
Jedi
That's not a religion, it's a freakin' cult, man! :D
ValenTorHethn
19-02-2005, 08:05
Agnostic Atheist - No one knowsif there are any gods but, the evidence so far indicates none
Bogstonia
19-02-2005, 08:08
That's not a religion, it's a freakin' cult, man! :D

Religions are all just big, well organised cults. Just as we Jedi were before the sith bent us over and....well I'm sure you can guess the rest you sickos!
Imperial Dark Rome
19-02-2005, 12:52
-Satanism aka Humanism

I am a Roman Satanist.

I live my life by the teachings of Lucifer. I am follower of the Left-Hand path, with Pagen leanings. Satanism is the number one most misunderstood religion of all time. So it's a very interesting religion to study and it's the closest religion to Humanism, it's called Satanism because Satan means adversary or opposite and Satanism is against all religions that punishes man when man follows his own instincts. Satanism is more a philosophy and way of life than a religion, which is why atheists can be Satanist and the fact that most atheists are Satanists and they just don't know it. I like Satanism philosophy because of its focus on undefiled wisdom, freedom, vengeance, responsibility, everyone being equal, indulgence, and vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams. I like that it is not nearly as strict or doctrinal as other belief systems. (Note:Worshiping the Devil or following the teachings of Lucifer is not required!)

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Vynnland
19-02-2005, 12:54
How are you Jewish annnnnnnd Buddhist?
I am an atheist and could be a buddhist if I so desired. Buddhism is not a religion in the western sense of the word, it is more like what westerners would call a philosophy of life.
Vynnland
19-02-2005, 12:55
I don't have a faith.
Another atheist. Right on. :cool:
Enn
19-02-2005, 12:58
Hard to describe. I'm perfectly sure that there are powerful beings out there, but I'm also perfectly sure that they aren't gods. More like angels and demons - not all powerful, but still significant.
Vynnland
19-02-2005, 12:59
I have no religion.

If you want me to classify myself, I'm an agnostic humanist with buddhist leanings.

I don't know whether there is a god or not, I don't consider it possible to know in this lifetime, so fuck it, I'll just enjoy the life I know I have. However, buddhism interests me and is the only religion thus far that I mostly agree with.

I was raised presbyterian.
You stated a position of both knowledge and belief, that's two positions. You sounds like an agnostic atheist to me.
Vynnland
19-02-2005, 13:01
Ditto. Except I spell it atheist. :D
I can't believe I have actually found people outside of atheistic forums that understand the difference between an Atheist and an atheist. I think I'm going to faint from surprise. I guess I just spend so much time around theists that I tend to think that I'm alone in a sea of theism. That tends to happen in the bible belt. :(
Vynnland
19-02-2005, 13:03
Agnostic Atheist - No one knowsif there are any gods but, the evidence so far indicates none
OMFG! Another person who actually knows the definitions of agnosticism and atheism. I'm recieving quite a few surprises in this thread. Sweet. :cool:
Hoo Doo
19-02-2005, 13:05
I live my life by the teachings of Lucifer. I am follower of the Left-Hand path, with Pagen leanings. Satanism is the number one most misunderstood religion of all time. So it's a very interesting religion to study and it's the closest religion to Humanism, it's called Satanism because Satan means adversary or opposite and Satanism is against all religions that punishes man when man follows his own instincts. Satanism is more a philosophy and way of life than a religion, which is why atheists can be Satanist and the fact that most atheists are Satanists and they just don't know it. I like Satanism philosophy because of its focus on undefiled wisdom, freedom, vengeance, responsibility, everyone being equal, indulgence, and vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams. I like that it is not nearly as strict or doctrinal as other belief systems. (Note:Worshiping the Devil or following the teachings of Lucifer is not required!)

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Similar to that, 'cept I call it LaVey Satanism.

When I tell people that I'm a LaVeyan Satanist, they suggest that I sacrifice goats to the supposed 'Dark Lord'. It's really irritating.

Satanism respects and exalts life. Children and animals are the purest expressions of that life force, and as such are held sacred and precious..In recent years, we’ve wasted far too much time explaining that Satanism has nothing to do with kidnapping, drug abuse, child molestation, animal or child sacrifice, or any number of other acts that idiots, hysterics or opportunists would like to credit us with. Satanism is a life-loving, rational philosophy that millions of people adhere to.
Down System
19-02-2005, 13:06
Non practicing Taoist with basic agnostic considerations. As in I believe in everything but I especially like the teachings of Taoism.
Vynnland
19-02-2005, 13:10
-Satanism aka Humanism

I am a Roman Satanist.

I live my life by the teachings of Lucifer. I am follower of the Left-Hand path, with Pagen leanings. Satanism is the number one most misunderstood religion of all time. So it's a very interesting religion to study and it's the closest religion to Humanism, it's called Satanism because Satan means adversary or opposite and Satanism is against all religions that punishes man when man follows his own instincts. Satanism is more a philosophy and way of life than a religion, which is why atheists can be Satanist and the fact that most atheists are Satanists and they just don't know it. I like Satanism philosophy because of its focus on undefiled wisdom, freedom, vengeance, responsibility, everyone being equal, indulgence, and vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams. I like that it is not nearly as strict or doctrinal as other belief systems. (Note:Worshiping the Devil or following the teachings of Lucifer is not required!)

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Humanism is not satanism. Anton LaVey tried to make that claim, but it is simply not true. Study the two and that will become very clear very quickly. Humanism teaches pascifism, satanism teaches that you should destroy those who openly oppose you. Humanism espouses taming the ego, satanism espouses feeding the ego. Humanism is concerned with what is good for humanity as a whole, satanism is only concerned with the immediately gratification of the individual.
Dogburg
19-02-2005, 13:13
When I tell people that I'm a LaVeyan Satanist, they suggest that I sacrifice goats to the supposed 'Dark Lord'. It's really irritating.

Are there actually any goat-sacrifice-to-dark-lord satanists here? To not sacrifice goats seems like a bit of a cop out really. :p

Another atheist. Right on.

As far as religion goes, I'm an atheist too.

Until God (or Satan for that matter) spells out his name using a natural disaster or something similarly convincing, I'm not willing to accept the existence of any supernatural deity.
Vynnland
19-02-2005, 13:17
When I tell people that I'm a LaVeyan Satanist, they suggest that I sacrifice goats to the supposed 'Dark Lord'. It's really irritating.

That's true for LeVaian satanism, but not for luciferian satanism. They believe in a literal Satan and demons and many groups make sacrafices to them. Of course, they are the minority in satanists and tend to get the full attention of the public, as well as exaggerations I'm sure.
Present Location
19-02-2005, 13:26
There is no reason to think there is or is not a god. But more important than that unanswerable question are the obvious ethical flaws of the whole judeo-christian shpiel re: chosen people, eternal damnation, original sin, etc.
If there was a universal overlord who set this system up I would feel absolutely bound to do everything possible within the limited free will granted me to resist it. Heaven and hell are morally repulsive, any good person would not be able to countenance their eternity of paradise so long as most people are doomed to an eternity of torment because they committed "sins" or failed to sufficiently apologize for their own nature. If there is a hell, there can be no true paradise. Similar considerations can be made about all religious systems. In this sense I see religious dogma of any kind having the very negative effect of stifling active ethical consideration. People are encouraged to submit to arbitrary authority and in many religions told specifically that they are evil and incapable of doing good without the help of doctrine sent down from on high. This is effectively true so long as a person believes it. The only helpful religion is one that encourages a person to explore and implement their own powers of ethical judgement in the context of a world of peers.
Hoo Doo
19-02-2005, 13:29
Are there actually any goat-sacrifice-to-dark-lord satanists here? To not sacrifice goats seems like a bit of a cop out really. :p Look what I found:

Gothic Teen Engaged in Satanic Rituals to 'Fit In'
"We're not evil. But some Satanic stuff does go on... it needs to be stopped."

When "Julia" started dressing in black at age 14, she had no idea she'd end up sacrificing a cat to the goddess Bast in a cemetery at night. "It was about a year ago," Julia, now 16, recalls of the episode at West Valley's Valley View Memorial Park. "There were about six or seven people in the group, and we found a male cat, collarless... a stray. They placed the cat so its legs were pinned down," she remembered. "One of the boys had a knife in his boot. They pushed the cat's head down onto the blade and cut its throat." Some of the participants filled vials with the cat's blood and drank it, she said. "We were making a religious sacrifice."The full article can be found here (http://www.darkwaver.com/subculture/articles/ritual.php). Some idiot reporter made a connection between gothyness and (luciferian) satanism.

That's true for LeVaian satanism, but not for luciferian satanism. They believe in a literal Satan and demons and many groups make sacrafices to them. Of course, they are the minority in satanists and tend to get the full attention of the public, as well as exaggerations I'm sure.Agreed, I think the public only hears about the animal-sacrificing (luciferian) satanists, along with a few exaggerations and generalisations.
Scott Allen
19-02-2005, 13:35
I'm Pentecostal: Assembly of God. We beleive in the Trinity, the life of the Son of God Jesus Christ, that he lived the perfect life and died on the cross for the sins of the whole world. He defeated hell, rose on the third day and will come back someday to reclaim His kingdom. We believe that the Bible's scripture is inspired by God through the authors, and that everything should be determined through scripture, and not opinion.
Imperial Dark Rome
19-02-2005, 13:37
Humanism is not satanism. Anton LaVey tried to make that claim, but it is simply not true. Study the two and that will become very clear very quickly. Humanism teaches pascifism, satanism teaches that you should destroy those who openly oppose you. Humanism espouses taming the ego, satanism espouses feeding the ego. Humanism is concerned with what is good for humanity as a whole, satanism is only concerned with the immediately gratification of the individual.

It is true, Satanism is the closest thing to Humanism.

1.Humanism is not a religion, it's just a way of life.

2.Satanism doesn't teach you to destroy everyone who is againist you. The Satanist only attack when a Satanist gets attacked first. It's human nature to fight back after a human gets hit.

3.Humanism doesn't espouses taming the ego. There is nothing wrong with feeding your ego, because that is also part of human nature.

4.What's wrong with gratification of the individual, for that is also a part of human nature.

I stand by my words!

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Imperial Dark Rome
19-02-2005, 13:43
Similar to that, 'cept I call it LaVey Satanism.

When I tell people that I'm a LaVeyan Satanist, they suggest that I sacrifice goats to the supposed 'Dark Lord'. It's really irritating.

At last I'm not the only LaVey follower! For he tells what real Satanism is!

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Dogburg
19-02-2005, 13:48
Look what I found:

The full article can be found here (http://www.darkwaver.com/subculture/articles/ritual.php). Some idiot reporter made a connection between gothyness and (luciferian) satanism.

Agreed, I think the public only hears about the animal-sacrificing (luciferian) satanists, along with a few exaggerations and generalisations.

Well the kid featured in that article must have been rather religiously confused. How is it Satanic to perform an Egyptian ritual? And didn't the original Goths (the ones who ran around Europe in blue war paint raping Roman soldiers) have a religion of their own, which wasn't tied with Satan or Egypt in any way whatsoever?

I mean surely if these kids were performing a Satanic ritual, they'd sacrifice the cat to Satan, or Lucifer (if they were "luciferian-satanists", not some Egyptian god. It's like saying "I'm a Christian, so I worship Allah every morning". No wonder Luciferian-Satanism gets such bad media if half its patrons don't even know which deity to worship!
Dogburg
19-02-2005, 13:51
Julia explained, "Mine is, I want to be crucified, then cremated, then my ashes put in vials, to be buried with all my friends.

Crucifixion. How Satanic.
Imperial Dark Rome
19-02-2005, 13:52
Let me try to get this clear to everybody...

Satanists don't sacrifice animals or humans!!!

If somebody does do a sacrifice, he is not a real Satanist!

Because the Satanist believes that if he needs blood he will use his own.
Because if a Mage or Wizard truly believes he can cast magic, he doesn't need to draw power from the death of a animal or human.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Pepe Dominguez
19-02-2005, 14:01
I am of the faith that believes a strict spiritual heirarchy exists:

1. God, our Lord and Almighty Savior of Souls
2. Pepe Dominguez
3. Everyone else.

Also, satanists are punks.

I knew one in high school, who I beat, cause he and his nonsense annoyed me. Only legal adult male I ever saw cry after being beaten like a woman.. honest to God, cried. Not yelled, not groaned, cried. Like a damn kid. Pathetic.
Lord High Protector
19-02-2005, 14:05
Christian Fundementalist. A soldier in the Holy army of the one true God.
Imperial Dark Rome
19-02-2005, 14:06
I am of the faith that believes a strict spiritual heirarchy exists:

1. God, our Lord and Almighty Savior of Souls
2. Pepe Dominguez
3. Everyone else.

Also, satanists are punks.

I knew one in high school, who I beat, cause he and his nonsense annoyed me. Only legal adult male I ever saw cry after being beaten like a woman.. honest to God, cried. Not yelled, not groaned, cried. Like a damn kid. Pathetic.

He wasn't a real Satanist! Satanists do not cry. He must've been a goth-satanist wannabe fake.

P.S. I've seen grown men cry when they saw "The Passion". Pathetic indeed.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh
Dogburg
19-02-2005, 14:07
Let me try to get this clear to everybody...

Satanists don't sacrifice animals or humans!!!

If somebody does do a sacrifice, he is not a real Satanist!

Because the Satanist believes that if he needs blood he will use his own.
Because if a Mage or Wizard truly believes he can cast magic, he doesn't need to draw power from the death of a animal or human.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord Medivh

Ok. Presumably the sacrificers are the same ones who don't know who they're meant to worship, like the ones featured in the article?

"Praised be.. um.. who was it again? God? Satan? Thor? Pharaoh? Conan?"
Hoo Doo
19-02-2005, 14:19
Why is it pathetic to cry? Isn't crying a natural human response to emotional, physical or mental trauma?
Hoo Doo
19-02-2005, 14:23
Let me try to get this clear to everybody...

Satanists don't sacrifice animals or humans!!!

If somebody does do a sacrifice, he is not a real Satanist!

Because the Satanist believes that if he needs blood he will use his own.
Because if a Mage or Wizard truly believes he can cast magic, he doesn't need to draw power from the death of a animal or human.

Posted by the Satanic Priest, Lord MedivhYou can sacrifice people symbolically during destruction rituals, i.e. make a figure (out of twigs, for example) that represents the person you want to bring harm to.
DOUBLE THE FIST
19-02-2005, 14:52
I am of the faith that believes a strict spiritual heirarchy exists:

1. God, our Lord and Almighty Savior of Souls
2. Pepe Dominguez
3. Everyone else.

Also, satanists are punks.

I knew one in high school, who I beat, cause he and his nonsense annoyed me. Only legal adult male I ever saw cry after being beaten like a woman.. honest to God, cried. Not yelled, not groaned, cried. Like a damn kid. Pathetic.

Oooh, look! It's a piece of flame-bait!

So who's gonna bite first, and watch as the thread devolves into another heated bitch about organised religion?? :D

I follow my own beliefs about God, picking whatever the hell makes sense to me and leaving out what doesn't.

Jesus was a pretty cool guy, reincarnation is not just for sons of God, and the Bible's great for a bit of a laugh - especially Leviticus and Revelations. :D

(BTW - I'm not anti-christian. They're free to think what they want, just as I am. :) )
Chancillor Carlos
19-02-2005, 14:59
I can't really tell who I am but I do not follow any of the well known faiths that you here about this day in age.

I believe in a projenitor of sorts, but who does not watch over us, but acts as a caretaker in this Universe.