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Well I always tell my friends that to solve the immigration problem. All we need to do is take over Mexico again. I think Mexico and US should join up. Maybe Canada too. Except Quebec. We need a place to dump toxic waste. Joking aside. Anyone else think a US/Mexico union would be a good idea?

I think Mexico should take back the Southern states. ;)

Well I always tell my friends that to solve the immigration problem. All we need to do is take over Mexico again. I think Mexico and US should join up. Maybe Canada too. Except Quebec. We need a place to dump toxic waste. Joking aside. Anyone else think a US/Mexico union would be a good idea?
What do they have to offer that we can't get now? Less illegal immigration? More border control? I think we'd just have another third world state to support. Kind of like SoCal is now.

I think Mexico should take back the Southern states. ;)
I say, I think you are referring to the Southwestern states. We in the true South don't have any interest in being Mexican.

I say, I think you are referring to the Southwestern states. We in the true South don't have any interest in being Mexican.
Yes, those ones. :p The ones Mexico had originally.

*runs from the geography monster*

I say, I think you are referring to the Southwestern states. We in the true South don't have any interest in being Mexican.

Whats wrong with Mexicans?

What should be done is proper border security. Right now, private groups in Arizona are doing a better job of defending the United States than the USBP.


(No, I'm not kidding.)

Nah, it would just be a boring pain in the ass. Besides, we need someplace for people to go and do stuff illegal on our borders, so they don't do it here just because it's easier.

Oh right, in addition that would completely destroy the tourism industry over there, and that will pretty much disembowel the local economy besides agriculture. We could never support them as part of our nation after the economic collapse, so it would really just be a waste of time and money. But hey, I'm sure the soldiers would rather be down there enjoying tequilas than in Iraq, right?

Whats wrong with Mexicans?
Not a thing. If we were going to leave the US, why would we want to become part of another country? In Georgia, our ancestors were the buffer between the Spanish and the rest of the nation. That's how we managed to get on as a plankholder.

It would be great if the whole of America could unite.

As for an invasion of Mexico? Why? Limited resources...overly dry...

Why not youve done it before.
Heck theyre doing it to you.

I think, due to the type of discussion, this link should be appropriate:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/18/content_2590088.htm

http://www.mexidata.info/id401.html

No, invading Mexico would be a very bad idea, and aas far as Mexico trying to reclaim the 'states' they lost - they are welcome to try - We Texas still remember the Alamo - and the Mexicans had better remember San Jacinto. :cool:

to solve the immigration problem

there isn't any immigration problem.

http://www.vipirg.ca/images/logos/logo_no-one-illegal_big.gif

[QUOTE=Free Soviets]there isn't any immigration problem.

Of course there is no immigration problem. Im sure that was a legal mexican that robbed my house the other day. Probably enjoying my car he stole with his legal drivers license. Maybe he will use it for transporting legal drugs accross the secure and friendly mexican border. Sure he wont get stopped cause he looks innocent and like any other regular old american. But who am i to complain to. Guess im lucky to be living in a neighborhood with all these legal peeps from our friendly neighbor down south a bit. Hey, I still love mexican food and beer. Reminds me of my car....
:(

Here's MY plan:

First, build a giant nuclear fallout shield over the US and Canada.

Then, nuke everybody into oblivion.

Wait until radiation dissipates. (Could be a very long time, hence Canada. Farmland, yo)

Go out and colonize.

Thusly, the United Planet of America is born.

there isn't any immigration problem.

http://www.vipirg.ca/images/logos/logo_no-one-illegal_big.gif

why should we grant rights to people who dont respect our laws... they want to come to this country, they can wait on line like every other immigrant is doing. There is an immigration problem.. a hugh one.

Funny though, Mexico champions illegal immigrant rights to the north.. while doing everything in their power to stem the immigration problem they are having iin the south.

And they have the OUTRAGOUS audacity to challenge Arizona state law... Im glad its Mexico now who is Dictating the Laws of the United States

Invade Mexico? NO

Annex Mexico? Well maybe, then the US could exploit all their natural resources, and all Mexicans would be US citizens. No more immigration issue.

Nah, we're already exploiting their resources through multinational corporations, and if they became part of the US then those corporations would have those troublesome environmental laws to comply with.

You could bet every powerful CEO in America will fight against it not only for that reason, but also because they'd probably have to start paying their nannys and gardeners at least minimum wage.

why should we grant rights to people who dont respect our laws...

because the particular laws in question are unjust and ought not be enforced in the first place. besides, there aren't any rights to grant - according to rights theory everyone has the full set of rights purely in virture of being human beings.

because the particular laws in question are unjust and ought not be enforced in the first place. besides, there aren't any rights to grant - according to rights theory everyone has the full set of rights purely in virture of being human beings.
The right to invade another nation, is nonexistant. When you cross a boundary into another nation, without the consent of that nation, you are invading. Migration is not a right.

Migration is not a right.

do you accept the legitimacy of internal passports and government control of movement? why or why not?

do you accept the legitimacy of internal passports and government control of movement? why or why not?
internal passports?
I was talking about the right of soverignty of nations. What they do in their own land is their problem.
In America, we have this thing called freedom of movement. I don't know if they have such a thing in Mexico, Canada, or Europe. But if the movement is within a nation, I fail to see a need for so called internal passports. Even with freedom of movement, there is still a necessity for some govt. control over it to ensure the safety of travelers. However, in America, this control is typically minimal when compared to other nations around the world.

I think Mexico should take back the Southern states. ;)


It's in their plan to attempt to take back Texas and whatever other states were Mexico at one point. California ..New Mexico etc.

But it will be more politically than geographically I think. Like having dual citizenship or do they already have that? I read about this somewhere. Gonna go look for some info.

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/aztlan.html

Taking over mexico would be about as good an idea as taking over canadia. That is to say, a bad one. Both countries are pretty much useless, and canadian socialism combined with mexican corruption would make things very interesting indeed.

Well I always tell my friends that to solve the immigration problem. All we need to do is take over Mexico again. I think Mexico and US should join up. Maybe Canada too. Except Quebec. We need a place to dump toxic waste. Joking aside. Anyone else think a US/Mexico union would be a good idea?

I believe we've already tried that. It's nice to know where all the racists hang out.

Despite the comments about Mexico being useless.. *cough* Where do import a nice big chunk of our Oil from? ooooooo.

Mexico has a severe economic split. Huge amount of poverty. Rampant corruption and is lacking a lot of things like clean water supplies in rural, and non rural, areas. America taking over Mexico would be a huge economic drain on our country to try to prop up and build infrastructure in Mexico. Far worse than what we're doing in Iraq.

So no, despite the usefulness of Mexico with its rich natural resources and population the economic burden of building up Mexico to American standards would make our current deficit look like a drop in the bucket.

Not that our current deficit is that bad considering our GDP, but eh.

It is a really bad idea for the US. Mexico would love it though. Under the principle of you break it, you own it, the US would have to pay a lot more than $80 billion a year to fix Mexico and it would probably bankrupt the US and finally bring the US to its knees, which the Left in the US would also love. A really, really bad idea.

It is a really bad idea for the US. Mexico would love it though. Under the principle of you break it, you own it, the US would have to pay a lot more than $80 billion a year to fix Mexico and it would probably bankrupt the US and finally bring the US to its knees, which the Left in the US would also love. A really, really bad idea.


Wouldnt really take much to fix mexico. Some tortillas and beans. Everything would be fine.

Well, Invading Mexico would be just a tad bit extreme, don't you think? Why not just create the 'EU' of the Western Hemisphere? Like.. The North American Alliance, if you just want Canada, Mexico and the US. If you want to think bigger, you could just get South America in on it and call it the Trans-American Federation. Worried about Economic Power? Just move westward and create the Union of Pacific Countries, so we could add the Japanese, the Aussies, the Filipinos, the Indonesians and the rest of the gang in with Canada, Mexico and the USA.

Well, I really don't see a problem with 'invading' Mexico. I mean, nobody's using it.

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We already did. But we were nice and only cut off the states that were geographically awkward from Mexico. :) Gave it a nice even haircut for Northern Mexico...yep...

Should US invade Mexico? If it were to stop illegal immigration I'd say it would be a great idea.