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Iran announced today that it, and Russia, had signed a treaty for Russia to supply Iran with its Plutonium. What does this mean for the USA now that Iran is allied with Syria, and is getting its Plutonium from Russia? Do you think that the UN or the US could put economic sanctions on Russia for doing this?

Can you provide a source for that?

Isn't Russia also considering selling missles to Syria?

Or that?

Russia has always in my book been an enemy of the US. Always has always will. What do you expect with an ex-cold war spook as its leader. This is no suprise as normal with the Russians. Damn liars and crooks, all of em

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4216871.stm BBC - 28th of Janurary.

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=6870 Aljazeera - 26th of Janurary

that's all I can be bothered to find. if you want more go use google news search.

I thought I heard the deal was Russia would provide the fuel, and after it was spent the by products of the nuclear reaction would be returned to Russia. There is nothing wrong with that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4216871.stm

There's the BBC report on a possible Syrian-Russian arms deal. But about being sanctioned by the US. Of course it's possible. Being the United States is a sovereign state they could easily put sanctions in place against Russia. The question is better, will they, or even better yet, should they.

Has Syria not the right to update its armed forces to deal with the aggressive state of Israel to its south. Of course some complain that the Syrians could use these anti-aircraft missiles to go on the offensive or provide them to terrorists. But one nation's terrorists is another's freedom fighters. Ultimately, I see this as the Russian attempt to reinvigorate their dominance of certain geographical areas. Unfortunately, the Russians have made themselves almost dependent on energy and arms deals. Perhaps the US is trying to maintain its hegemony by preventing the economic development of Russia. Is that good for the US? Again another extremely complex answer that depends on your own personal views on empire and if the American empire can succeed and/or last.

Personally, I say that the deal will not go through, too much pressure will be put on Russia to scrap the deal by the Israelis and the Americans. If it does, I would expect nothing from the UN because Russia has veto power, and even if it cannot vote or something like that, China too has veto power, and China will see any attempt to limit Russia's growth as a peripheral attempt to halt China's growth. Will the US impose sanctions? I would doubt it. We need to be on friendly terms with Russia, we need to open their markets to the world. And to enact santions would do the reverse. But then again the Bush administration has done many... well what I consider foolish errors in foreign policy so who knows... maybe George will do something foolish again.

About Iran. This all boils down to whether or not Iran should have nuclear missiles. They obviously will target the Great Satan. It goes without saying. But realistically, what other choice does Iran have in order to defend itself. Whether or not this is the case, their government and leaders see the United States as an imperial power bent on changing the Middle East into pro-US democracies. This is something that threatens the fundamental existence of the current Iranian Islamic Republic. It threatens their current way of life. Their culture. Their religion. Iran cannot develop carriers and super tanks and stealth fighters. The only real weapon they could build that could deter a US-invasion are the 'evil' weapons of mass destruction. While I don't like the idea of a nuclear armed Iran, I don't see it being the prerogative of the US government telling other sovereign governments how to run their defence policies.

Could the UN impose sanctions? Doubtful to possible. Definately not a forgone conclusion. Again, both Russia and China would see any US iniative as a threat to their strategic interests. In this case, however, you also have the European Union - consisting of the UK and France, both veto holding members - that don't want to see the brash and aggressive US policy come into force. The US can claim - and does - to hold evidence of Iranian complicity in nuclear weapons research. But especially after the fiasco with claims of evidence on Iraqi WMDs, it is doubtful the world will respect US intelligence estimates for a long time.

So will the US impose sanctions. If we haven't already, I don't think it really matters. We don't deal directly with the Iranian government, and it isn't a major tourist attraction, so I doubt that imposing sanctions would be anything mroe than a slap on the wrist. The real problem concerning the world is another US invasion of a sovereign state.

As for an article relating to plutonium sales, I personally haven't seen anything, but the warm relations between Russian and Iran and the nuclear program of the latter is well documented. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2169056.stm

This information is all out dated... the deal with syria was a month ago, long before this most recent international crisis with lebonon.. and Russia has been supplying Iran with plutonium for years.. for "civilian" usage.. Out side of that, there is no recent news on any deal to sell them wepons grade plutonium and missles >.> i think someone is trying to be subversive and misleading

Russia has always in my book been an enemy of the US. Always has always will. What do you expect with an ex-cold war spook as its leader. This is no suprise as normal with the Russians. Damn liars and crooks, all of em
Would you expect Russia to sit back and just watch as the US starts to amass troops and equipment in the Middle East?

Remember Cuba and the US back in the 60's? The tables have turned?

Would you expect Russia to sit back and just watch as the US starts to amass troops and equipment in the Middle East?

Remember Cuba and the US back in the 60's? The tables have turned?
That was due to Soviet missles aimed at US. The Soviets were planning a first strike on America. Check the released KGB documents from the era. The US I believe is no threat militarily to the Russian Federation. There are no signs of it at all.

That was due to Soviet missles aimed at US. The Soviets were planning a first strike on America. Check the released KGB documents from the era. The US I believe is no threat militarily to the Russian Federation. There are no signs of it at all.
Yeah the Russians know all too well just how much the people of the US love Communists. Do you really think that the Russians trust the US in the Middle East?

How long ago was it that the US was supplying the Taliban to get the Russians out of Afghanistan?