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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/4272041.stm

This is probably one of the best stories I've seen for a while.

The basics are a chav tried to burgle some guy's house, but the guy had been burgled before and had his webcam hooked up to a motion sensor. Even though the pc was stolen, the webcam had already e-mailed pics/film to an e-mail account and the guy simply sent the police a link to find out who the thief was.

It's ingenious AND funny!

I need to figure out how to do that. I got robbed a few months ago too and I had to catch the idiots the old fashioned way. Criminals are so stupid.

Bah! you beat me to it! :D Such a great story.

I hate the word chav. We've been using the word townie for years in Loughborough, and we shall never change our ways just because of some new buzz word

One down, lots to go.
:mp5:

EDIT: We've been using the word townie as well, and it sounds better than chav.

I hate the word chav.
Chav is a word?

townies is what they are. chav my arse.

That's brilliant. My boyfriend, who is a computer nerd, was burglared recently; I will have to inform him of this :)

townies is what they are. chav my arse.
And 'spides' in this neck of the woods! I suppose the terms depend on where you are :)

But with Chav you can get the word Chavalanche. It's an occurance when a group of them come into your local pub.

I like Chav better than Pikie and my friend uses Townie to mean something else. So I can't use that. Chav it is!

townies is what they are. chav my arse.

Likewise, fooking hate the word chav just a buch of classist toff bullcrap, annoys the hell out of me.

I liked townie as a word, but i now use the correct word, prole as they are unskilled working class, none of this slag bollucks for me.

Whats in a name? A townie by any other name still burns.
:gundge:

I hate the word chav. We've been using the word townie for years in Loughborough, and we shall never change our ways just because of some new buzz word

What's chav? I haven't heard that one.

What's chav? I haven't heard that one.

For completely unbiased information, visit:
chavscum.com (http://www.chavscum.com/)

They arent chavs or townies. They're f**king losers who follow the flock.

chav = council house associated vermin :)

I hate the word chav. We've been using the word townie for years in Loughborough, and we shall never change our ways just because of some new buzz word
Think of the term chav as a collective term for the lot of them: skivs, townies, barries, neds etc.

It's also a lot easier to attach the suffix 'scum' to. Some of the local chav terms are also a little weak. 'Chav' can remedy this.

Finally, terms can be confused: I was dumbfounded when I first heard glaswegians using the word 'ned'. 'Chav' is universally recognised as being the general word for:

"that person is a tracksuit and shiny trainer wearing piece of shit"
(optional burberry cap and assorted gold-plated jewellery)

Thanks for reading
Schmerkins of the Chav-Recognition Trust

I hate the term 'chav' but, it seems, for slightly differnt reasons than those above. My opinion also includes similar words: 'townies' 'neds' 'scallies' etc, altho less so because thaey haven't been adopted on such a national scale.

It's vastly becoming a generic term for almost anyone who happens to be working class, and one with extremely derogative connotations. While i acknowledge that there is a demographic of people who are degrading society: thugs who hang around on street corners, cause violence, be generally obnoxious etc, and that this is who the phrase was originally targetted at, i fear it's spiraling out of control.

I have good mates who would be labelled on sight as 'chavs'. And they're far superior to many of the obnoxious middle class twats it's been my displeasure to endure over the years. By purporting an ethic of degredating people based largely on what they wear (which stems largely from socio-economic grouping) you're just increasing the plight of the less fortunate.

By all means direct dislike and criticism at people who, for want of a better description i'll refer to as 'bastards', but i'm strongly against the term 'chavs' which is increasingly being displaced from the 'problem' to refrencing many areas of normal working class culture. i suggest a word such as 'yobs' or 'thugs' in it's place - one which is clear in it's violent/anti-social connotations.

(If you actually call people 'chavs' because you have a sweeping dislike of anyone working-class than none of the above applies to you, please go and drink petrol)

The way I see it now is that Chavs are townies who have no money, and hang about outside shops conning people into buying them smokes.

Townies are trendier than chavs and tend to work in River Island and follow whichever haircut craze David Beckham has initiated.

Neither chavs nor townies speak the queens english, or have much sense about them.

As far as I've heard, the term chav has been used for these people since the dawn of time, in Kent.

Pikies are something altogether different, they live in caravans, whether static or mobile, steal things and often stab people. They're kind of chavs without the legality!

Personally, I don't really like any of them.

Fox-hunting is dead

Long live Chav-hunting

Legalise Chav hunting:
First to 10 Burberry caps gets a Metallica CD!

:upyours: :mp5:

(If you actually call people 'chavs' because you have a sweeping dislike of anyone working-class than none of the above applies to you, please go and drink petrol)

I have to agree here - it is becoming a generic word referring to the Working Class, whereas not all Working Class people are Chavs and vice-versa. I'm Middle-Class Nottingham, and I know some really stupid people from my own socio-economic background who act like 'Chavs', showing that anybody can dress like an explosion at a Nike factory, wear a lot of cheap jewellery and speak like semi-educated primeape regardless of their background.

Luckly however, me and all my friends are heavily into Rock music, so we are immune from the disease of the Chav vermin.

Fox-hunting is dead

Long live Chav-hunting

Yes indeed - my own personal view. :D We stop them hunting foxes by giving them another animal to hunt.

Actually, I've always thought of chavs as being less 'working class', more 'non-working class'. After all, they are basically working class without all the benefits of frugality, close community connections and generalised politeness and respect that once marked this hardworking, essential section of society.

A chav is someone who lives on benefit and uses it to buy an expensive nokia someone nicked. Scum.

chav = council house associated vermin :)

I am offended by that. I live in a council house. But I'm no townie.

By purporting an ethic of degredating people based largely on what they wear (which stems largely from socio-economic grouping) you're just increasing the plight of the less fortunate.
I agree with most of what you said, but am wondering if the people described as 'chavs' are so working-class, how they can afford brand names such as Burberry, Adidas etc?

I hate the word chav. We've been using the word townie for years in Loughborough, and we shall never change our ways just because of some new buzz word

call them what you like
to some they are townie
others chav or chavster. maybe even charver
the female chav being a chavett and the young chavs, chavlings

For completely unbiased information, visit:
chavscum.com (http://www.chavscum.com/)

Ah, a bogan. Now I understand.

chavs are to be destroyed ware ever possible, its people like that which are the cause for the collaps of our empire and eventually the end of britain all together

chavs are to be destroyed ware ever possible, its people like that which are the cause for the collaps of our empire and eventually the end of britain all together

I think that may be overreacting a little bit... :)

:D Legalise Chav hunting:
First to 10 Burberry caps gets a Metallica CD!

:upyours: :mp5:

i agree, it could replace fox hunting :D

I think that may be overreacting a little bit... :)

i am sorry :( but i just cant take the burbery anymore :mad: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

I use the word chav. Townie wouldn't be any good to use because people in rural areas use it to refer to outsiders.
Chavs don't seem to be attached to any social class, but they do tend to spend most of their time in the areas populated by good working class people. Mainly because in this country only the rich matter, its the rich areas that have more police, its only the rich areas that get speedbumps, its only the rich people who benefit when we've got a bad government.

Getting back to the point, the only variation in chav's of different classes is some have more expensive tracksuits.

I use the word chav. Townie wouldn't be any good to use because people in rural areas use it to refer to outsiders.
Chavs don't seem to be attached to any social class, but they do tend to spend most of their time in the areas populated by good working class people. Mainly because in this country only the rich matter, its the rich areas that have more police, its only the rich areas that get speedbumps, its only the rich people who benefit when we've got a bad government.

Getting back to the point, the only variation in chav's of different classes is some have more expensive tracksuits.

indeed

Yay for being different! They're not chavs or townies, they're kevs! I used to go to a private school, and the state school next to it was full of kevs! Listening to them talk was just funny, how can you not start laughing at them?

I agree with most of what you said, but am wondering if the people described as 'chavs' are so working-class, how they can afford brand names such as Burberry, Adidas etc?

a) Many people don't bother to analyse specifically what brand of clothing is being worn - tracksuit bottoms and a cap will suffice.
b) Taking Burberry as an example, it's pretty hard to recognise the 'real thing'; from my experience a large majority of real 'chavs' wear similar looking imitations
c) Similar to b), i think you'll find there's quite a (black) market for deliberate rip-offs at vastly lower prices
d) It depends on priorities. If you put clothing ahead of other things than you might eat poor food and drink cheap beer, but have relatively better clothes.

a) Many people don't bother to analyse specifically what brand of clothing is being worn - tracksuit bottoms and a cap will suffice.
b) Taking Burberry as an example, it's pretty hard to recognise the 'real thing'; from my experience a large majority of real 'chavs' wear similar looking imitations
c) Similar to b), i think you'll find there's quite a (black) market for deliberate rip-offs at vastly lower prices
d) It depends on priorities. If you put clothing ahead of other things than you might eat poor food and drink cheap beer, but have relatively better clothes.

With the clothes. It's a major sign of kev-ness if their clothes are fakes.

Yay for being different! They're not chavs or townies, they're kevs! I used to go to a private school, and the state school next to it was full of kevs! Listening to them talk was just funny, how can you not start laughing at them?

I managed. I seem to have this problem called 'not a snide exclusionist arrogant middle class supercillious obnoxious bigoted twat syndrome'. Feel sorry for me :(

A lot of the time, the more expensive items are jacked from some poor fool who can't get away fast enough. One of my mates lost three pairs of trainers that way before he switched to metal capped military boots and put them in some rude boys groin. Neither townie nor rudie jacked him since.

I managed. I seem to have this problem called 'not a snide exclusionist arrogant middle class supercillious obnoxious bigoted twat syndrome'. Feel sorry for me :(
yet your perfectly happy to condemn someone for using the term chav....


we call them spides here, or millies for the female variant

yet your perfectly happy to condemn someone for using the term chav....


we call them spides here, or millies for the female variant


Firstly, just to make this clear, that was a specific comment directed at that one person, not necessarily at everyone who calls people 'chavs'.

Are you trying to imply that somehow by being a socialist i'm being elitist (and therefore hypocritical in my dislike of Sanctaphrax' elitism)? In some twisted interpretations i guess you're right, and if you hold one of those strange views than by all means call me hypocritical. I disagree myself: socialism doesnt necessitate the acceptance of right-wing ethics, in fact, surprisingly, it kinda supports disliking them imo.

Firstly, just to make this clear, that was a specific comment directed at that one person, not necessarily at everyone who calls people 'chavs'.

Are you trying to imply that somehow by being a socialist i'm being elitist (and therefore hypocritical in my dislike of Sanctaphrax' elitism)? In some twisted interpretations i guess you're right, and if you hold one of those strange views than by all means call me hypocritical. I disagree myself: socialism doesnt necessitate the acceptance of right-wing ethics, in fact, surprisingly, it kinda supports disliking them imo.
wasnt really implying anything, just thought it was funny

and yea, the rest of thats lost me, sounds clever though

I managed. I seem to have this problem called 'not a snide exclusionist arrogant middle class supercillious obnoxious bigoted twat syndrome'. Feel sorry for me :(
Why do you force me to call the mods? *shakes head sadly*

Ooh. Ooh. Mods. Could you make siren sounds when you arrive. 'Cos that would own.

Classic, when you get someone like that and they get put in jail...you have to admit its smart, i use Chav, townie isn't waht people say around here.

My area says kev. But I have recently picked up townie. I don't use chav 'cos they use it when talking to each other so they don't get it when you say it to them.

Granted there isn't much they get when you speak to them, but it's the principle of the matter.

The term varies with region. Anyone who claims that their region's term is more correct than another region's, is a total dickhead.

In fox hunting season, they hunted Foxes.

In tourist season, I hunted tourists.

I now declare Chav season open! Grab a gun!

And 'spides' in this neck of the woods!

Seconded.

we call them spides here, or millies for the female variant


'Millies' is believed to date back to the use of the term 'mill-girls' to describe the young women that worked in the flax mills here, but the origins of 'spide' seem to be lost in the mists of time, but it does seem a much more recent coinage - possibly about 20-25 years old.

'Millies' is believed to date back to the use of the term 'mill-girls' to describe the young women that worked in the flax mills here, but the origins of 'spide' seem to be lost in the mists of time, but it does seem a much more recent coinage - possibly about 20-25 years old.

Whoa. You like know EVERYTHING. Is that you God?