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I have a theory about people's pet preferences. Do conservatives prefer submissive dogs and liberals prefer pushy aloof cats? It helps for the poll if you've taken the political compass test, but isn't necessary.

I have a theory about people's pet preferences. Do conservatives prefer submissive dogs and liberals prefer pushy aloof cats? It helps for the poll if you've taken the political compass test, but isn't necessary.

Hitler, Napoleon, and Stalin all hated cats and loved dogs. So yeah, I'd say conservatives love dogs.

As a conservative, I prefer cats. They require little work, and are snugglier than dogs.

I tend to be fairly liberal and I'm a cat person...

I'm a rabid psycho-fascist with a byline in Platonic-Hierachical caste system and philosophical monarchy. I'm about as conservative as you can get and I have two cats. One of them considers himself a philosopher king and the other thinks that it's my wife.

So I don't think your argument holds water.

I am right o center and I love cats. They have great attitudes and are much more fun.

Hitler, Napoleon, and Stalin all hated cats and loved dogs. So yeah, I'd say conservatives love dogs.

Authoritarians love dogs then? That makes sense because its easier to command them to do stuff.

I have a theory about people's pet preferences. Do conservatives prefer submissive dogs and liberals prefer pushy aloof cats? It helps for the poll if you've taken the political compass test, but isn't necessary.I'm fairly liberal (particularly on social issues), and I DEFINITELY prefer dogs. Cats don't really do much for me... however, if you asked whether I'm more like a dog or a cat, I'd say a cat. *shrugs*

why would liberals love cats.dogs like people.cats are evil to the core,very adorable however.

I'm a liberal.

I find both cats and dogs to be annoying.

Ferrets though...Hmm?

I have a theory about people's pet preferences. Do conservatives prefer submissive dogs and liberals prefer pushy aloof cats? It helps for the poll if you've taken the political compass test, but isn't necessary.

cats are more reflective of concervative personalities.. independent, looking for freedom where ever they can and will if possible take care of themselves at every turn...

meanwhile dogs like concervatives want/need assistance from those with more power need someone looking over their shoulder and like being controled by their masters. They also need a hand to hold when going out into the cruel world..

In other words i disagree with your connections

I didn't think so many people would post before I got the poll done. I know it's not all inclusive, but tough.

I'm a rabid psycho-fascist with a byline in Platonic-Hierachical caste system and philosophical monarchy. I'm about as conservative as you can get and I have two cats. One of them considers himself a philosopher king and the other thinks that it's my wife.

So I don't think your argument holds water.

Hardly an arguement, more a theory. And theories are made to be disproven. ;)

cats are more reflective of concervative personalities.. independent, looking for freedom where ever they can and will if possible take care of themselves at every turn...

meanwhile dogs like concervatives want/need assistance from those with more power need someone looking over their shoulder and like being controled by their masters. They also need a hand to hold when going out into the cruel world..

In other words i disagree with your connections

I have to agree with this. Also, in the poll libertarians are placed with leftys, they are very much opposites.

I have to agree with this. Also, in the poll libertarians are placed with leftys, they are very much opposites.

I specifically mean left on the Libertarian/Authoritarian scale.

ah, understood. But I think rightys are not authoritarian and leftys are not libertarian. or something, look. . .I have a fever of 39 and am not in a good debating mode. I am going off to pout at work. Yes, I am in Japan, you work when you have a fever of 39. Ja matta.

see what I mean, you said "or" and I completely missed that. damn.

Hitler, Napoleon, and Stalin all hated cats and loved dogs. So yeah, I'd say conservatives love dogs.
Hitler was center-left, and Stalin was rather far left. I'd say liberals love dogs, based on your examples. Ooooo, look, the poll supports me.

I like both dogs and cats but can't resist cats...they are the one creature who can walk all over me. That said, talke a look at my political compass - I am a social libertarian.

I'm pretty sure that all your poll proves is that the majority of people on this thread lean left



:) :sniper:

Why is authoritarian placed with right wing? I'm a centrist totalitarian.

I'm sorry, but I'm mostly talking about left or right on the libertarian/authoritarian scale. I'll have to get better at wording polls. In my defense all I can say is it's my first one and I couldn't figure out how to go back and reword the original question.

Liberal pussies or rabid conservative dogs? ;)

Hmm. libertarian and I say dogs

I'm sorry, but I'm mostly talking about left or right on the libertarian/authoritarian scale. I'll have to get better at wording polls. In my defense all I can say is it's my first one and I couldn't figure out how to go back and reword the original question.


... i just noticed that.. why is authoritarian on the right ? ... im sorry... what is communism ? in every form its ever taken in the worlds history.. communism leads to authoritarianism ... I rebuke your use of Authoritarian for the right and libertarian on the left... outragous

Radical leftist communism is just as authoritarian as Radical right Facism

Um, not to burst your bubble, but Fascism isn't right wing either.

... i just noticed that.. why is authoritarian on the right ? ... im sorry... what is communism ? in every form its ever taken in the worlds history.. communism leads to authoritarianism ... I rebuke your use of Authoritarian for the right and libertarian on the left... outragous

Radical leftist communism is just as authoritarian as Radical right Facism

On the political compass test, libertarian is placed on the physical left on the graph, authoritarian on the right side. It has a different axis for economic right/left.

Um, not to burst your bubble, but Fascism isn't right wing either.

... yes it is.. learn your political spectrum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facism

No its not, maybe you should try reading that article yourself. National Unionization is not a right wing concept.

On the political compass test, libertarian is placed on the physical left on the graph, authoritarian on the right side. It has a different axis for economic right/left.

taht is infact incorrect... in the political spectrum authoritarian is not right or left.. but runs along a y-axis so is up or down... same for libertarian...

http://politicalcompass.org/

so to call the Right authoritarian is INCORRECT.. and i find you attributing authoritarianism to the right offensive at the very least by suggesting only the right encompasses authoritarianism

No its not, maybe you should try reading that article yourself. National Unionization is not a right wing concept.

your attributing right winged to concervatism.. but it is not always concervatism which defines right winged.. if you even looked at the first line of that link i posted you will clearly see :

"Fascism (in Italian, fascismo), capitalized, refers to the right-wing authoritarian political movement which ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Benito Mussolini. "

Here is another definition of right winged which gives you a better idea of what it can mean..

"Another strand of right wing thought, often associated with the original right wing from the times of monarchy, supports the preservation of wealth and power in the hands that have traditionally held them, social stability, and national solidarity and ambition."

Note that wikipedia is in fact, a site capable of being changed by anyone, and that article itself has been changed several times recently. Would you define the EU as a right wing group?

Im moderatly rightish, but I like cats and dogs.
Overall, I prefer Fish.

Note that wikipedia is in fact, a site capable of being changed by anyone, and that article itself has been changed several times recently. Would you define the EU as a right wing group?

On a whole no i would not.. but there are aspects of it which can be considered right winged... but as a political science graduate having studied this throughly i know the definitions..

and this is an accurate one of the Right wing.. depicting what Facism is described as..

"Another strand of right wing thought, often associated with the original right wing from the times of monarchy, supports the preservation of wealth and power in the hands that have traditionally held them, social stability, and national solidarity and ambition."

taht is infact incorrect... in the political spectrum authoritarian is not right or left.. but runs along a y-axis so is up or down... same for libertarian...

http://politicalcompass.org/

so to call the Right authoritarian is INCORRECT.. and i find you attributing authoritarianism to the right offensive at the very least by suggesting only the right encompasses authoritarianism

Oops, you're right. Must be my liberal bias, but I misremembered. I'm still having fun watching the arguement here. Since I scored in the lower left part of the graph, I'm left either way.

On a whole no i would not.. but there are aspects of it which can be considered right winged... but as a political science graduate having studied this throughly i know the definitions..

Specifically would you consider it an economic right wing group?

What if you scored leftist AND authoritarian on the quiz?

What if you scored leftist AND authoritarian on the quiz?

Then there is the very real possibility that you are, in fact, Stalin. Next question.

I have a theory about people's pet preferences. Do conservatives prefer submissive dogs and liberals prefer pushy aloof cats? It helps for the poll if you've taken the political compass test, but isn't necessary.

Anarchist that loves cats and will at best put up with dogs.


To me the real question is: what alignment are they? Cats are chaotic evil, while dogs are lawful stupid.

Why is authoritarian placed with right wing? I'm a centrist totalitarian.

What the hell is a centrist totalitarian?

I'm hard rightwing/authoritarian and I love my cats. They're much smarter than dogs, and I have a strong dislike of stupidity.

And they're cute and affectionate.

Anarchist that loves cats and will at best put up with dogs.


To me the real question is: what alignment are they? Cats are chaotic evil, while dogs are lawful stupid.

Agreed. But evil is part of a cats charm.

Then there is the very real possibility that you are, in fact, Stalin. Next question.

Stalin's policies were not liberal.....

But sure go on with your delusions.

I'm liking the poll results. From what it looks like so far, liberals and libertarians like pets, and conservatives and authoriatarians somehow mostly dissappeared.

Stalin's policies were not liberal.....

But sure go on with your delusions.

Leftist != liberal.


http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/analysis2.php

Stalin's policies were not liberal.....

But sure go on with your delusions.
:confused:
Stalin not a lefty?
He was a communist!
If Stalin's not left, then who is?

Libertarian, and right in terms of economics. I prefer cats.

Voted for the left/libertarian option since I think I saw the original poster clarified this to mean the social scale as opposed to the economic one.

To tell you the truth, though, I think it's a toss. The two behave about the same in my experience, but maybe that's a fluke.

Cats all the way

perhaps this is not the best place for an accurate pole since most people ehre woudl probably be liberal types since they are younger .

I consider myself somewhat right of center and i don't especiallt like cats or dogs. I have a turtle and an aquarium full of tropical fish but since I don't really pet them are they truly pets?

Cats are chaotic evil, while dogs are lawful stupid.
More chaotic neutral than anything, and I've known quite a few chaotic good cats as well.

More chaotic neutral than anything, and I've known quite a few chaotic good cats as well.
:eek:
Didn't you know that cats are planning to exterminate all human life?
They just hide it really well.

:eek:
Didn't you know that cats are planning to exterminate all human life?
They just hide it really well.
Then how do you explain Dogbert?





Oh, and my preference is all the way for cats, except for english mastiffs, which are just cool.

I has being proved that dogs are a hell of a lot smarter than cats, probably because cats are independent animals whilst dogs are pack animals and needed to work as a group to hunt. For instance, wolves would chase an animal for say 100m, then another would dart out of the bushes 100m down the road to keep up the chase so they didn't get tired. That is intelligence. Cats are pretty dumb.

Can't understand people liking cats better - they are selfish, dim and not at all loyal. A cat doesn't care about it's master for anything apart from food. A dog does because of pack instincts.

I'm pretty left wing & I prefer dogs. I have a cat though, because my back yard isn't big enough for a dog.

I has being proved that dogs are a hell of a lot smarter than cats, probably because cats are independent animals whilst dogs are pack animals and needed to work as a group to hunt. For instance, wolves would chase an animal for say 100m, then another would dart out of the bushes 100m down the road to keep up the chase so they didn't get tired. That is intelligence. Cats are pretty dumb.
Um, lionesses do the same thing, and house cats generally don't chase prey that is big enough to require those tactics. Besides which the bigger cats are deadlier so they don't need to evolve tactics like that in order to survive.

I love big dogs cause they're just like me, large, hairy and sometimes they smell. I really love German Shepards and Rotties, but only if their tail is left on. I also have something of a large soft spot for corgis, both Welsh and Pembroke.

But evil is part of a cats charm.

Interesting. Is the evil part of my charm?

[Libertarian Communist - I prefer cats.]

Leftist != liberal.


http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/analysis2.php

leftist does not necessarily equate to liberal. an authoritarian lefty can exist.

"Another strand of right wing thought, often associated with the original right wing from the times of monarchy, supports the preservation of wealth and power in the hands that have traditionally held them, social stability, and national solidarity and ambition."

Under this definition, modern day Chinese communism would be considered right wing? (....support the preservation of ...social stability, and national solidarity and ambition)

I have to agree with this. Also, in the poll libertarians are placed with leftys, they are very much opposites.
Not at all, it's highly possible to be a leftist libertarian.