NationStates Jolt Archive

I saw it over the weekend and I personally found it to be the best movie I'd seen in a couple of years. Should have been nominated for Best Picture instead of The Aviator. It bothered me to think this whole event only happened 10 years ago and that in 100 days, almost a million were killed. And the West didn't do a goddam thing to stop it, not the US or the UN. Now something similar is happening in Sudan and it's getting ignored the same way. What the f*ck needs to happen before we start to give shit about Africa? I mean, the movie left me depressed but at the same time disgusted. I know some may not like the movie but the event it's based on was horrific and sadly, seems to be forgotten in the minds of too many.

I have been meaning to see it since it came out. I am looking forward to it, but haven't been able to yet.

This may sound cold, but why should we have gotten involved? We're not the world's globocop. Can we honestly be expected to police the world? Should we involve ourselves in every country's internal affairs, break up every little scuffle, oust every tin-pot dictator who abuses human rights, or just stick our noses in on certain occasions, or when it's convenient for us? These are the kinds of questions that would pop up if we did intervene.

I don't know how accurate it is, but it is disturbing at what little was done to stop it.

This may sound cold, but why should we have gotten involved? We're not the world's globocop. Can we honestly be expected to police the world? Should we involve ourselves in every country's internal affairs, break up every little scuffle, oust every tin-pot dictator who abuses human rights, or just stick our noses in on certain occasions, or when it's convenient for us? These are the kinds of questions that would pop up if we did intervene.


Genocide is an appropriate thing to stop in another country.

I saw it over the weekend and I personally found it to be the best movie I'd seen in a couple of years. Should have been nominated for Best Picture instead of The Aviator. It bothered me to think this whole event only happened 10 years ago and that in 100 days, almost a million were killed. And the West didn't do a goddam thing to stop it, not the US or the UN. Now something similar is happening in Sudan and it's getting ignored the same way. What the f*ck needs to happen before we start to give shit about Africa? I mean, the movie left me depressed but at the same time disgusted. I know some may not like the movie but the event it's based on was horrific and sadly, seems to be forgotten in the minds of too many.

Africa's problems are much too big to solve. The vast majority of its countries are characterized by rampant corruption and nepotism, blatant and gross human rights abuses, staggeringly high unemployment, poverty, and inflation, absence or near absence of civil liberties, pervasive tribal and ethnic tensions, etc. I challenge anyone to name more than three to five African countries that aren't totalitarian dictatorships.

Genocide is an appropriate thing to stop in another country.

I don't how we could stop it, considering how many countries it takes place in.

Part of the reason Africa is so bad is because of a foreign presence but I also believe that is what is going to help clean it up.

We can't stop everything. Especially because we need to run our own countries wisely.

Ideally, the UN should help. We need to work at a UN level.

I don't how we could stop it, considering how many countries it takes place in.


Lets start with Sudan then.....

We can't stop everything. Especially because we need to run our own countries wisely.

Ideally, the UN should help. We need to work at a UN level.


Hey Sam, haven't talked to you in a while.

Lets start with Sudan then.....

Then we'd have to go to Zimbabwe, DRC (Democratic Republic of the Congo), and dozens of other places.

Hi, yourself.

The Rwandan genocide couldve been stopped easily, but the UN pulled out too fast because 10 peacekeepers died, If they would have listened to Dallaire(i think thats the person) they couldve stopped it. But Generally i think the world doesn't give a damn about Africa because they're Black, and who would really wanna save black people when we could save asian people?

But hey, thats just my opinion.

The Rwandan genocide couldve been stopped easily, but the UN pulled out too fast because 10 peacekeepers died, If they would have listened to Dallaire(i think thats the person) they couldve stopped it. But Generally i think the world doesn't give a damn about Africa because they're Black, and who would really wanna save black people when we could save asian people?

But hey, thats just my opinion.

I do give a damn, but there's not much we can do about it. Most of the countries are f***ed beyond repair.

Hmm.

Personally, I feel that any action like this should be taken only by willing nations under the UN banner.

I don't know how accurate it is, but it is disturbing at what little was done to stop it.

It's a great movie. The one problem I have with it is the inaccurate portrayal of the UN peacekeeper in the movie. Romeo Dallaire, the person on which the character is based, did a whole lot more to try and stop the situation and came home from Rwanda a broken man. Now he is one of the leading voices trying to make the west help Sudan. Anyone interested and shocked by Hotel Rwanda should read his book "Shake Hands with the Devil" though I warn you, it is even harder to stomach than the movie.

I did see the movie, I just don't how accurate it actually was.

Then we'd have to go to Zimbabwe, DRC (Democratic Republic of the Congo), and dozens of other places.

Bring it on. If certain countries in the UN would prefer not to get involved the US can and should be globocop. Of course we'll need free reign from any and all rules of war to be effective. But if we're going to provide this valuable service we're going to need more money, and as international persons other states should be forced to pay a tax for the US military to be the UN's de facto enforcement branch/global police force (while retaining our own right to smack around whomever we want). We can call it the Not-America tax. If you're a country that isn't the United States of America you have to pay the US a tax in proportion to your ability to pay. Any time some tin-pot dictator or tribal civil war or the like starts up we can send in our even stronger and more funded military in and topple the oppressive regime. If the going gets tough maybe we'll use a few nukes. Sure it might be violent at first but after the first few assholes are turned into piles of ash the other dictators will get the idea and will beg to have free elections and reform. We get some extra money, and nobody has to worry about oppressive dictators or violent civil wars causing genocide anymore. Everyone wins! :D

I dont think anyone can stop violence from happening in these countries but the UN could at least set up a "savezone" for civilians to flee to. At least you would not have millions being murdered.