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We have any wagers here? I guess I could say anyone of many nations could attack both of these pariahs. So what is your best guess?

When Dubya hits one of them with a dart on the map in the oval office. :rolleyes:

ten days from now, 4am Tehran time.

War will break out on the next major terrorist attack on the US that can somehow be tied to Syria and/or Iran.

Or, US will bomb Iranian nuclear facilities if intelligence shows them close to the a-bomb.

France will advise caution while selling whatever they can to both countries.

The UN will pass a resolution condemning Iranian nuclear ambitions, just as they passed a resolution condemning the assassination of the former prime minister in Lebanon - without condemning Syria in any way. Iran and Syria will of course tremble before the UN's rhetorical might.[/sarcasm]

Bumpety-bump.

We'll be off to war (again) this very summer. I'll be surprised if we're not in Iran by the end of June.

One year, possibly by the end of this year. Iran and Syria both will have sanctions, and Iran will have the bomb. Israel will not wait around, and start bombing Syria, Lebanon, and what they can of Iran. The US will be drawn into this because a.) it'll spill into Iraq, and b.) it'll threaten oil fields. Turkey will be drawn into this as well, as their borders will be threatened.

Well the world would be ok if they

Smoke two joints in the morning,
Smoke two joints at night.
Smoke to joints in the afternoon
It makes the world feel alright

Smoke two joints in time of peace
And in a time of war
Smoke two joints and then smoke two joints,
And then smoke some more.

Problem sorted

Or, US will bomb Iranian nuclear facilities if intelligence shows them close to the a-bomb.

Or Israel might do it, like they did to Iraq in '81.

Or Israel might do it, like they did to Iraq in '81.

No, because to do that they'd have to fly over Iraq, which would mean U.S. approval of the mission. So, the U.S. would be involved no matter what. Unless Syria wants another Six Day War...stubborn bastards.

No, because to do that they'd have to fly over Iraq, which would mean U.S. approval of the mission. So, the U.S. would be involved no matter what. Unless Syria wants another Six Day War...stubborn bastards.

Which is how long it would take... 6 days.. besides, didn't anyone read the new NY times report today... the military expects in less then a decade that robots will me a major force in our military.. we wont have to worry about the loss of life on our side atleast. And we will beable to deal with all of the worlds problems at the same time

No, because to do that they'd have to fly over Iraq, which would mean U.S. approval of the mission. So, the U.S. would be involved no matter what. Unless Syria wants another Six Day War...stubborn bastards.

They can get to Syria without going through Iraq.

I don't think Syria will get invaded, though, as I'm pretty sure it's one of the countries we're paying off.

Which is how long it would take... 6 days.. besides, didn't anyone read the new NY times report today... the military expects in less then a decade that robots will me a major force in our military.. we wont have to worry about the loss of life on our side atleast. And we will beable to deal with all of the worlds problems at the same time

And as we give our stuff to Israel before we give it to our own troops it could happen even sooner.

They can get to Syria without going through Iraq.

I don't think Syria will get invaded, though, as I'm pretty sure it's one of the countries we're paying off.
And we recalled our ambassador to Syria because . . .?

When Dubya hits one of them with a dart on the map in the oval office. :rolleyes:

LOL :p

And we recalled our ambassador to Syria because . . .?

Sorry. Forgot to read that article.

Not gonna happen anytime soon (and hopefully not at all). Iran is gonna give up their nukes (in development) or the we are gonna bomb the hell out of their facilities without an actual invasion. Wha't Iran gonna do to us? Invade? Impose sanctions? Bomb us? (Ok, I admit the terrorist commando force is possible, but we have already have a jillion dollars going into Homeland security as it is.) Aside from that, we don't really have the military resources right now (barring a draft) to go to war with Iran. Not to mention that invading Iran would probably be political suicide for whoever voted for it, no matter how just the war is. The American people are not going to want another war again soon (maybe in another 5 years once the war fervor gains strength again:p ).

Soon, not exactly sure, but some time within the next 2 months. at the most 1 year. (Enough time for us to train Iraq forces and pull our asses out of their, only for our troops to go attack Syria and Iran) But to be clever, we must say we are backing Lebanon who will have started war on Syria and therefor Iran for Syria killing their PM and bombing their country.

Not gonna happen anytime soon (and hopefully not at all). Iran is gonna give up their nukes (in development) or the we are gonna bomb the hell out of their facilities without an actual invasion. Wha't Iran gonna do to us? Invade? Impose sanctions? Bomb us? (Ok, I admit the terrorist commando force is possible, but we have already have a jillion dollars going into Homeland security as it is.) Aside from that, we don't really have the military resources right now (barring a draft) to go to war with Iran. Not to mention that invading Iran would probably be political suicide for whoever voted for it, no matter how just the war is. The American people are not going to want another war again soon (maybe in another 5 years once the war fervor gains strength again:p ).
This isn't like Serbia or Iraq. If Iran is bombed, they are strong enough to retaliate. They can't do much offensively, but they may be able to lob a few missiles at Tel Aviv, and may send a few divisions into Afghanistan, where coalition and NATO forces are too weak to offer an effective resistence.

True....Any considering Iran is quite mountainous....The airforce will not be as effective as usual...Plus Iran perhaps has one of the best middle eastern navys aside from Israel....

And they are united against the enemy/zionists/americans w/e you want to call it...

No, because to do that they'd have to fly over Iraq, which would mean U.S. approval of the mission. So, the U.S. would be involved no matter what. Unless Syria wants another Six Day War...stubborn bastards.

The United States would kindly ask Iraq to grant Israel that right.


What would they do anyways? Mess around in Iraq...ohhh wait...

No, because to do that they'd have to fly over Iraq, which would mean U.S. approval of the mission. So, the U.S. would be involved no matter what. Unless Syria wants another Six Day War...stubborn bastards.

What makes you think that they'd ask permission? When they hit Iraq, they had to go through Jordan. They didn't ask permission then.

What makes you think that they'd ask permission? When they hit Iraq, they had to go through Jordan. They didn't ask permission then.

Because Israel doesn't want to anger America. We're their only ally, really, except for Britain, Holland, and a couple others.

True....Any considering Iran is quite mountainous....The airforce will not be as effective as usual...Plus Iran perhaps has one of the best middle eastern navys aside from Israel....

The best navy doesn't say much. This is their navy.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/ships.htm
Impressive, huh? Most of the equipment is older as well. The US, on the other hand, has an entire fleet just across the Gulf. Naval resistence by Iran will be utterly futile.

I belive that after the hole Iraq incident is over and most of our troops are out... The US will form a coalition including turkey, isral lebanon and various others to invade syria... no US forces will be used in this invasion but we will give the coalition US weapons. Then The US, Britain, various small countries, possiblely pakistan and afganistan, and hopfully the UN will attack Iran.

An attack on both at the same time is a very smart idea... which will eliminate the helpfulness of the new syrian/Iranian treaty to the enemies

Good plan but damn that bush... VIA KERRY!!!

Because Israel doesn't want to anger America. We're their only ally, really, except for Britain, Holland, and a couple others.

Isreal is friends with the whole UN, so why would they ask the states seeing the US didnt wait for an answer on invading Iraq, why should they?

the next military will probably be robots in the US that will be controlled unknowingly by gamers playing online

As a Brit I sincerely hope that neither happens.
Iran is an entirely different animal to Iraq, it's incredibly religious and the Ayatollah enjoys massive public support. Credible support this time, unlike Hussein. Ironically, since the elections in Iraq, they're a thousand times closer to becoming another Iran, ruled by an Ayatollah, provided America lets that happen of course. I suppose if they don't like it they can always invade again once it's all set up.
Sometimes, I think that some Americans have to realise that democracy isn't the answer for the whole world. Some people prefer to live without, and Iran is the best possible example of this.
As for the defence of Israel and the USA, it's remarkable how closely this resembles some sort of irrational arachnophobia.
Remember, no matter how scared you are of what the spider's going to do to you, you're much bigger than him, and he's ten times more afraid of what you're going to do to him.

This isn't like Serbia or Iraq. If Iran is bombed, they are strong enough to retaliate. They can't do much offensively, but they may be able to lob a few missiles at Tel Aviv, and may send a few divisions into Afghanistan, where coalition and NATO forces are too weak to offer an effective resistence.
Horsefeathers! Then everyone is against them, and they can't afford that (think sanctions). International opinion already looks upon them disdainfully and they have few cards to play militarily, diplomatically, or economically. If we bomb them, they are going to have to take it and shut up about it.

Because Israel doesn't want to anger America. We're their only ally, really, except for Britain, Holland, and a couple others.

You mean like when they sunk our ship in '73? The Liberty, I think. Somebody else can google it. I'm feeling lazy.

the next military will probably be robots in the US that will be controlled unknowingly by gamers playing online
LOL they know where the real skill is - plus they save money on salaries and training. Smart move by the US military!

I belive that after the hole Iraq incident is over and most of our troops are out... The US will form a coalition including turkey, isral lebanon and various others to invade syria... no US forces will be used in this invasion but we will give the coalition US weapons. Then The US, Britain, various small countries, possiblely pakistan and afganistan, and hopfully the UN will attack Iran.

An attack on both at the same time is a very smart idea... which will eliminate the helpfulness of the new syrian/Iranian treaty to the enemies

Good plan but damn that bush... VIA KERRY!!!
The idea is that we don't want to invade Iran - you can see with Iraq how hard to rebuild a wartorn country full of (even more full than Iraq) anti-occupation citizenry. Aside from the nukes, Iran is playing nice enough in International affairs that we don't need to invade it, and, more importantly, there is no economic/diplomatic incentive as in Iraq (think oil).

LOL they know where the real skill is - plus they save money on salaries and training. Smart move by the US military!

lol thats right all they would have to pay for is the construction of the robots and then have it as a "online game" extreme gamers will fall for it and BOOM they have their military no training needed cause the training part of the game at the beginning will actually be a game then when you go into it, its no longer a game but you still dont know it

Even better they will have it as a world wide online game so then they dont just have their own country doing it they could be using the Enemies civilians too :mp5: :mp5:

Horsefeathers! Then everyone is against them, and they can't afford that (think sanctions). International opinion already looks upon them disdainfully and they have few cards to play militarily, diplomatically, or economically. If we bomb them, they are going to have to take it and shut up about it.
They do, however, have a few cards to play. They are one of the few states that offers their oil directly to China, and not just through the markets. Open the spigots wider, and China can pull a few strings. They may, for example, stop engaging North Korea for the US. Or Iran may use a few nukes. One hasn't been dropped in a very long ti;me, so it is hard to determine its exact effect on diplomacy. It'd be worth a try for Iran.