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While wandering around the BBC news site i stumbled upon this


Latin airlines face US tax probe

Latin American airlines are facing a tax probe in the US, the Latin American Airline Association (AITAL) has said.
The US probe is trying to establish if the airlines owe taxes on salaries for crew members for time spent flying over US territory and pre-flight services.
AITAL warned that the measure could be extending to carriers from other regions such as Europe or Asia.
A spokesman for the federal Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in Dallas has confirmed the probe.

source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4271877.stm)

This is one way of cutting taxes in the US and still reducing the budget defecit.

Great idea! Let's start taxing citizens of other countries. Then we can cut taxes on US citizens and still have plenty of money to take care of business.

I know a way to save millions

cut all the paychecks of the members of congress by half. It will still allow them to live comfortably, but not uber rich aristocrats that they are now. And it would save millions.

Or maybe we should just stop spending insane amounts of money...

I know a way to save millions

cut all the paychecks of the members of congress by half. It will still allow them to live comfortably, but not uber rich aristocrats that they are now. And it would save millions.


I've long thought this should really be done. Don't they all vote on their own pay raises too? Bastards!

ummm i know a way to really reduce the deficit. Have around a 32% income tax. Stop the war on terror at least temporarily. Stop giving special interest groups money. Also whever we find an illegal immigrant/criminal/terrorist etc. Take evrything they own and send them somewhere else. AND STOP GIVING OTHER COUNTRIES AID! But thats if you REALLY wanted to cut the deficit really badly.

Or maybe we should just stop spending insane amounts of money...

thats what I was kinda saying. Seems we pay politicans tons of money, and they skip out on all sorts of votes and such. Some vote only the minimal amount of times, and then its normally just a party vote.

The President and the Congress are paid WAY too much money, and if they are the symbols of how this government work, then we are just showing that its money that makes the laws, and thus it is.

ummm i know a way to really reduce the deficit. Have around a 32% income tax. Stop the war on terror at least temporarily. Stop giving special interest groups money. Also whever we find an illegal immigrant/criminal/terrorist etc. Take evrything they own and send them somewhere else. AND STOP GIVING OTHER COUNTRIES AID! But thats if you REALLY wanted to cut the deficit really badly.
OR we can stop slashing taxes like teachers' tires and cut spending on the military (billions of it isnt even making it to them) and start making use of phantom money we have holed up because we have no idea what to do with it

I've long thought this should really be done. Don't they all vote on their own pay raises too? Bastards!

they used to, but now they refuse to, so it gets sent to a funds council instead. Its considered policital suicide now to vote to up yourself a raise, but they refuse to make a vote to lower it, which would make sooooo many popular politicions.

ALso legalizing drugs could save/generate tons of money. No more drug war - no more prisoners because of drug use - lotsa tax money flowing in and increased tourism!

ummm i know a way to really reduce the deficit. Have around a 32% income tax. Stop the war on terror at least temporarily. Stop giving special interest groups money. Also whever we find an illegal immigrant/criminal/terrorist etc. Take evrything they own and send them somewhere else. AND STOP GIVING OTHER COUNTRIES AID! But thats if you REALLY wanted to cut the deficit really badly.

forget income tax, it was sooooo unconstitutional, only reason it isn't know is thay made an ammendment to make it allowed.

They should make it into a sales tax, but one that doesn't tax food items.

forget income tax, it was sooooo unconstitutional, only reason it isn't know is thay made an ammendment to make it allowed.

They should make it into a sales tax, but one that doesn't tax food items.
Too regressive. Rich people save and invest a higher percentage of their income than poor people. The rich would be getting taxed on a lower percentage of their money than the poor.

Send everyone over the age of 70 up to Northern Canada. Set them on ice flows and wave goodbye. We could have picnics and so forth. Also every illegal alien will be removed, and a 50 foot electric fence with a moat will guard both borders. In the moat will be pissed off man eating pirahna.

Also, every person in government will take a 25% pay cut, federal school funding reduced by 20%, and medicare/medicaid cancelled.

Send everyone over the age of 70 up to Northern Canada. Set them on ice flows and wave goodbye. We could have picnics and so forth. Also every illegal alien will be removed, and a 50 foot electric fence with a moat will guard both borders. In the moat will be pissed off man eating pirahna.

Also, every person in government will take a 25% pay cut, federal school funding reduced by 20%, and medicare/medicaid cancelled.

now that we have the dumb joke out of the way...

I have a question for those in teh know...

WHo does weapons R&D for the military? Private companies, the military or both?

I have a question for those in teh know...

WHo does weapons R&D for the military? Private companies, the military or both?
Both. Picatinny arsenal, in my home state of New Jersey does alot of weapons research and testing. They're working on battlefield robots last I heard. Also companies like Raytheon, Boeing, etc. do alot too.

or how about we stop spending insane amounts of money on cam pain advertising and law- suites that would save billions of $ :sniper: :sniper:

I think it should be left up to private companies entirely. That should lessen the debt shouldnt it? If a R&D project goes out the window then it will be the company taking the fall and not the american taxpayer.

I think it should be left up to private companies entirely. That should lessen the debt shouldnt it? If a R&D project goes out the window then it will be the company taking the fall and not the american taxpayer.
I was under the impression that companies get money up front to begin work on a project.

I was under the impression that companies get money up front to begin work on a project.

we should stop that then! We should say "we want this and will buy it if you make it"

they make it, we buy it; they fail, we dont.

ummm i know a way to really reduce the deficit. Have around a 32% income tax. Stop the war on terror at least temporarily. Stop giving special interest groups money. Also whever we find an illegal immigrant/criminal/terrorist etc. Take evrything they own and send them somewhere else. AND STOP GIVING OTHER COUNTRIES AID! But thats if you REALLY wanted to cut the deficit really badly.

Heres a better idea.. cut all federal programs expect those directly related to the military and secuirty. Cut medicare, welfare, subsidies, foregin aid, education... there is nothign privtization can't solve. Then the only expesnes the government will have to worry about is our security.. much more efficent i say

we should stop that then! We should say "we want this and will buy it if you make it"

they make it, we buy it; they fail, we dont.
I don't know. Right now we have the most technologically advanced military in the world. I wouldn't want to jeopardize that.

I think Bush is guessing that the market will sort itself out and reel the budget deficit back in, or thats the impression I get from his lack of action over it.

Sadly, theres little evidence from elsewhere in the world that this can happen.

I don't think they'll be able to tax people on money they earn flying over the country - it would lead to reciprocation... Anyways, it'll bring in mere millions
You wanna cut the budget deficit? Spend less, take in more. Simple. Ideas on how to? I think, spend less on the military - you're the most powerful country in the world by far. If ya wann be safe from terrorism, you need WAAAY less stealth bombers and WAAAY more boots on the ground. Stop giving tax cuts to rich people, and tax them MORE proportionally than poor people. And legalise drugs sounds good too. Make em legal, you've got a cut of the huge ($400bn worldwide annually) market. You could take in a mere five percent and that'd be an extra twenty billion. It'd likely be many times that. Plus, you save big on prisons, police, and money for right-wing terrorists in Colombia. About three-quarters of your police budget goes on drugs...

now that we have the dumb joke out of the way...


Now that we have the most gay response out of the way.

I don't think they'll be able to tax people on money they earn flying over the country - it would lead to reciprocation... Anyways, it'll bring in mere millions


Then you move on to taxing the passengers as they fly over. Then anyone entering a McDonalds for the time they spend there. Then to anyone watching an American made film etc. By the time you finish you are taxing most of the world's population for most of the time.

Little things about US taxation are interesting. If you emigrate, to the UK, for example, then you do not have to pay Federal taxes to the USA, but you can be liable to State taxes, on the presumption that you will return to that state when and if you return to the USA. Just the presumption is enough to make you liable. Good huh.

Now that we have the most gay response out of the way.

Yes it was rather jolly wasn't it chums.

Heres a way to stop the defecit without taxing more! Oh wait, thats impossible! No, you must cut taxes. Bushs plan is as stupid as modern diets, they argue "You must cut carbs! Eat meat! No Fruit! Eat more fats! Eat less vegetables!" While you could just eat healthy and exersize! Theres an idea! You'll save money, feel great! Get some fresh air! And lets not forget lose the wait and build your body!

I know a way to save millions

cut all the paychecks of the members of congress by half. It will still allow them to live comfortably, but not uber rich aristocrats that they are now. And it would save millions.

The salaries are not the problem. Last I heard, they only get $90,000 a year. Most doctors or lawyers make more than that. The problem is the perks, like the air travel on the government tab. Getting rid of that will be harder.

lets quit wasting money on israel

Or maybe we should just stop spending insane amounts of money...

If you don't like America then you can just GET THE HELL OUT. ;)

You can have my maxed out credit card when you prise it from my cold dead hand.

I think it should be left up to private companies entirely. That should lessen the debt shouldnt it? If a R&D project goes out the window then it will be the company taking the fall and not the american taxpayer.

For some reason when private companies screw up a project the military eats the cost. It counts as expenses and labor or some bullshit.

Most military research projects are just pork anyway. It's all you can expect when senators relatives own the private companies that do the projects.

I think Bush is guessing that the market will sort itself out and reel the budget deficit back in, or thats the impression I get from his lack of action over it.

Sadly, theres little evidence from elsewhere in the world that this can happen.

Well, isn't this why the public voted for his faith based economic initiatives platform?

Heres a better idea.. cut all federal programs expect those directly related to the military and secuirty. Cut medicare, welfare, subsidies, foregin aid, education... there is nothign privtization can't solve. Then the only expesnes the government will have to worry about is our security.. much more efficent i say

Absolutly. The only programs that are neccessary to filling the public coffers are those that give the government the guns neccessary to take it.

Enough of this democracy crap, military cleptocracy all around. Those Nepalese kids earn their parents a mint, and all mine does is suck up space in the nursery. Time the little brat started earning his keep.

Also every illegal alien will be removed, and a 50 foot electric fence with a moat will guard both borders. In the moat will be pissed off man eating pirahna.

That'd work great. My pissed off neighboor eats piranha on his porch all the time and I won't go near the looney bastard.

Change the Constitution. Re-elect Clinton. Instant budget balancing!

While wandering around the BBC news site i stumbled upon this

Only in America
Great work Dumb arses.

Is it interesting to note Afghanistan and Iraq have cost 300 Billion dollars
by 2023 Superanuation(or whatever you have-ie Welfare) will cost 300 Bilion hmmmmmmmmmm simmilarities?
And although i thought the monies families of dead soldiers got was poor i think 500K is excessive when your nation is in the red?

PRINT MORE MONEY! We'll collapse the Dollar, and compete with China as the worlds most Industrious nation! Muahahahah.

Ok I have this really wacky idea. It might seem a bit strange at first.


The govt makes $X amount of money from taxes and things. They should move to a system where they spend <$X.


Would that work maybe?

Ok I have this really wacky idea. It might seem a bit strange at first.


The govt makes $X amount of money from taxes and things. They should move to a system where they spend <$X.


Would that work maybe?

Whats the point of having the biggest GDP in the world if you cant have the biggest deficet and/or debt.
It makes perfect sence