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False Idols

Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:32
Many religions worship false idols. Only Jesus brings salvation. Look at the film marked controversial on this page
www.chick.com/catalog/videos/LOTW.asp#clips

God Bless You
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 21:33
Money. I'd pick money. Why isn't the poll up yet?
Whispering Legs
16-02-2005, 21:34
Yeah, I know. I worshipped Billy Idol for years, and look what happened to me.
Alien Born
16-02-2005, 21:37
That's funny. It really is. Thanks.
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:37
Money. I'd pick money. Why isn't the poll up yet?
I dont know how to do a poll. The Bible said love of money is the root of all evil
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 21:40
I dont know how to do a poll. The Bible said love of money is the root of all evil

I thought Chaucer said that.
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:41
who is chauser?
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 21:41
American Idol is definitely evil. *nod*
Iztatepopotla
16-02-2005, 21:42
what about taoism? Taoism doesn't worship anything.
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:42
what about taoism? Taoism doesn't worship anything.
It takes worship away from Jesus. He dide for your sins
Drygion
16-02-2005, 21:44
who is chauser?

Geoffery Chaucer lived in the 1300s and wrote The Canterbury Tales.
DHomme
16-02-2005, 21:45
You're kidding me, right? You're using Jack Chick as your credible source?

Fucking hell
Iztatepopotla
16-02-2005, 21:45
It takes worship away from Jesus. He dide for your sins
So? A lot of people die for much less than that and don't expect any worship.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 21:45
Jesus saves. He passes it to Moses. Moses shoots...he scores! :D
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:46
You're kidding me, right? You're using Jack Chick as your credible source?

Fucking hell
Chick tells the truth in a way that makes non beleivers listen.
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 21:46
I thought Chaucer said that.
He might have as well, but 1 Timothy 6:10 is "For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." (New American Standard, Updated)
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:47
So? A lot of people die for much less than that and don't expect any worship.
Nobody but Jesus can take away your sins and make you clean.
Prosophia
16-02-2005, 21:47
So? A lot of people die for much less than that and don't expect any worship.lol! Iztatepopotla is now my god!
DHomme
16-02-2005, 21:47
Chick tells the truth in a way that makes non beleivers listen.

What, by spreading fear, hate and lies?
Iztatepopotla
16-02-2005, 21:47
Nobody but Jesus can take away your sins and make you clean.
Nobody but Jesus says I'm unclean.
Kellarly
16-02-2005, 21:48
Buddhism doesn't worship idols either...praying at a temple with a symbol of buddha, but you do not worship him.
Ravea
16-02-2005, 21:48
Jesussaves, I've seen the body of a women who had been raped, skinned alive, then dumped in a tub of bleach. (This was last summer in New York.) Now why doen't she deserve any worship?
Prosophia
16-02-2005, 21:48
He might have as well, but 1 Timothy 6:10 is "For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." (New American Standard, Updated)Where does the love of sex come in on the sin chain?

I think I'm screwed on that one.

(No pun intended - until I actually wrote it! :D)
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 21:48
I can't decide whether my favorite part of the movie is the picture of the weird money-lender hanging over the top of the UN building or the shot near the end where the good Christian is turning his back on the crowd of idols. I particularly like how satan has an arm draped over an obelisk on one side and Vishnu on the other. They look like the sweathogs.
Jester III
16-02-2005, 21:49
Chick tells the truth in a way that makes non beleivers listen.
I think the word you were looking for was "laugh" and not "listen".
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 21:49
who is chauser?
TROLL!
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:49
What, by spreading fear, hate and lies?
did you ever read any of Chicks little books? They are not lies and hate. He shows how Jesus loves you and wants you to be with him in heaven. He shows how satan tries to trick you.
Willamena
16-02-2005, 21:50
I dont know how to do a poll. The Bible said love of money is the root of all evil
Near the top of the page where it says 'Thread Tools' you can click on adding a new poll.
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 21:50
Chick tells the truth in a way that makes non beleivers listen.
I've been following Jesus consciously for nearly five years now. I'm born-again, I'm washed in the blood of the Lamb, I'm a Christian.

I'm really not sure that non-believers do listen to things the way Jack Chick tells them. Some of them do, sure, but some find him too aggressive, and stop listening, even if some of what he says is true.

Pray about it.
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:51
Jesussaves, I've seen the body of a women who had been raped, skinned alive, then dumped in a tub of bleach. (This was last summer in New York.) Now why doen't she deserve any worship?
Thats horrible. Satans followers on earth do these things. If she had Jesus in her heart shes in a better place now.
Amyst
16-02-2005, 21:52
I think the word you were looking for was "laugh" and not "listen".

Damn it, beat me to it
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:52
I've been following Jesus consciously for nearly five years now. I'm born-again, I'm washed in the blood of the Lamb, I'm a Christian.

I'm really not sure that non-believers do listen to things the way Jack Chick tells them. Some of them do, sure, but some find him too aggressive, and stop listening, even if some of what he says is true.

Pray about it.
I will. I just try to share Jesus with people when I can.
Ravea
16-02-2005, 21:52
Thats horrible. Satans followers on earth do these things. If she had Jesus in her heart shes in a better place now.

Aha, but here's the twist; She was a Muslim. Does that mean she is rotting in hell now?
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 21:53
Seriously, this fake is still around?
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 21:53
I've been following Jesus consciously for nearly five years now. I'm born-again, I'm washed in the blood of the Lamb, I'm a Christian.

I'm really not sure that non-believers do listen to things the way Jack Chick tells them. Some of them do, sure, but some find him too aggressive, and stop listening, even if some of what he says is true.

Pray about it.
YOU WASHED IN BLOOD??? That's just sick! :p
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 21:53
Seriously, this fake is still around?

Oh. I think Jack Chick is here to stay. At least until the Jesuits get to him.
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 21:54
Oh. I think Jack Chick is here to stay. At least until the Jesuits get to him.
Not Jack Chick...Jesussaves.
Tagmatium
16-02-2005, 21:54
You ever thought that these people might be happy in what they are doing. It is their choice, in the end. I it is annoying when people stick their noses into others' business, especially with their Holier-than-thou attitude. After all, half of all priests are kiddy-fiddlers, so who are they to tell people what is right or wrong. (I ain't getting at anyone)
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 21:54
Jesus saves. He passes it to Moses. Moses shoots...he scores! :D

Moses scored?. Sweet. I worship Moses now. He is my God.
Slinao
16-02-2005, 21:55
Nobody but Jesus says I'm unclean.

don't think Jesus called anyone unclean....could have missed it, most people 'read' christianity based on its doctrines and traditions, set down by man, and thus really screwed up. Organized religion is one of the leading causes of sin.

"Their worship of me is useless, for they honor man-made laws as if they were holy doctrine"

Oh, and a lot of 'christians' are idol worshippers too. They pray to crosses, images of christ, 'virgin' mary, saints etc. Yet according to G-d's law they are not to make any images, from the heavens or the earth, from the sky or nature. For G-d didn't appear as them, but as fire. A graven image is something made by man, and is a focus of worship. Just because Christ died on a cross doesn't mean that you should worship the item that cursed him.

Most doctrines are hypocritical anyway, calling people 'father', leaders, and the like, even though Christ says not too. Most people don't even read the bible to learn what it says, they listen to men and their ways of seeing the words, taking faith of the divine out of the picture, and placing it into man.
Slinao
16-02-2005, 21:55
Moses scored?. Sweet. I worship Moses now. He is my God.
yeah, he was married, and by jewish law, if you are married, you aren't supposed to keep the jiggy out of it.
DHomme
16-02-2005, 21:56
did you ever read any of Chicks little books? They are not lies and hate. He shows how Jesus loves you and wants you to be with him in heaven. He shows how satan tries to trick you.
Everything he says about catholics, communists and rock music is a complete pile of bullshit. He spews about witches killing 40000 babies a year in America alone- don't you think that SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE would notice these missing babies?
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 21:56
Moses scored?. Sweet. I worship Moses now. He is my God.

He did some impressive stuff too. Sure, jesus walked on water. But Moses pushed it out of his way!
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 21:56
Where does the love of sex come in on the sin chain?

I think I'm screwed on that one.

(No pun intended - until I actually wrote it! :D)
The only "sin chain" is the one that binds the hearts, minds, hands, feet, eyes, ears, and lives of those living in the kingdom of darkness.

Seriously though, God doesn't rank sins the way we do.
For a start, motives are just as important to God as external actions, and He actually knows our motives, while we just kinda guess at each others' thought processes.
Also, the issue is not so much individual sins as overall separation from God. Jesus died to sort that out; accept His authority over your life, and you will cease to be screwed.
DHomme
16-02-2005, 21:56
Aha, but here's the twist; She was a Muslim. Does that mean she is rotting in hell now?
Of course! Ha ha ha, those crazy non believers
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 21:57
Not Jack Chick...Jesussaves.

I know whatcha meant. See, what I was doing was attempting to get under the skin of our bathed-in-blood dyed-in-the-lamb's-wool friends by simultaneously indicating that Chick was a fraud and reminding them that Chick's belief that he is being hunted by Jesuit assassins is a fairly clear indicator of serious paranoid schizophrenia.
Iztatepopotla
16-02-2005, 21:57
don't think Jesus called anyone unclean....could have missed it, most people 'read' christianity based on its doctrines and traditions, set down by man, and thus really screwed up. Organized religion is one of the leading causes of sin.

You're right, perhaps I should have said "nobody but Jesus followers say I'm unclean".
Kellarly
16-02-2005, 21:58
He did some impressive stuff too. Sure, jesus walked on water. But Moses pushed it out of his way!

Jim carrey did it with soup, which is even more impressive as he didn't get it on the table cloth, moses slaughtered a load of poor eygptians in the process ;)
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:58
Everything he says about catholics, communists and rock music is a complete pile of bullshit. He spews about witches killing 40000 babies a year in America alone- don't you think that SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE would notice these missing babies?
Satanic wiches breed babies for sacrifices and rituals. Ther are plenty of people who were ritualy abused. They tell about sacrifices canibalism and sex rituals.
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 21:59
Aha, but here's the twist; She was a Muslim. Does that mean she is rotting in hell now?
Its a shame. Only through Jesus is ther salvation.
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 22:00
YOU WASHED IN BLOOD??? That's just sick! :p
Sinuhue, you probably do know that "washed in the blood of the Lamb" is a metaphorical description of the fact that Jesus' substitutionary sacrifice on the cross means that I am now clean before God, as foreshadowed by the typological sacrifices commanded by God in the Torah.

So don't be cute.

;)
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 22:01
Jesus stands between you and the pearly gates and says, "If you want salvation, you'll have to get through me first!"
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:01
He did some impressive stuff too. Sure, jesus walked on water. But Moses pushed it out of his way!

Exactly. Moses had way better magic powers than Jesus. he was like superman. Back in the day you'd get like 10 year olds going out and buying the next papyrus copy of Moses .

They'd be all......

"Did you hear what Moses did out east. He moved the sea right out orf his way."

"Whoa. That rocks."

"Yeah. Then he drowned everyone in the sea, 'cos he's hardcore."
Jester III
16-02-2005, 22:01
Jesus died to sort that out; accept His authority over your life, and you will cease to be screwed.
I'd really miss the screwing in my life... :p
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 22:01
Satanic wiches breed babies for sacrifices and rituals. Ther are plenty of people who were ritualy abused. They tell about sacrifices canibalism and sex rituals.
See what I mean? I thought he'd been reported to the mods for trolling...was a verdict ever brought down on Jesussaves?
Super-power
16-02-2005, 22:02
Many religions worship false idols.
Hey look, it's everybody's favorite religious troll!
Scouserlande
16-02-2005, 22:02
I worship George Orwell, Franz Kafka, Socrates and John Stewart Mill, they’ve all impacted the world more than Jesus ever did, as I keep saying Jesus did jack all to found the Christian religion (great thing that was too) he came he said a few things he got nailed to a piece of wood died them came back for a weekend then flew off. Way to found a religion, Abraham and Mohammed were way more practical, go out and find lots of people, ok Jesus may of done this a bit, but he picked the hick part (Galilee) of a hick province (judea) that no one in the roman empire cared about, wow convert a few hicks, and his disciples, useless bunch of layabouts, hell they all run away when he gets arrested, and keep falling asleep when he talks to them, and their involvement in the early church, most people think they wrote the gospels that’s wrong, Is it weren’t for pragmatic people like St. Paul who took it by the balls and lead it to the capitals of the roman empire, hell it would have stayed as a Jewish cult.
Jesus was a lazy bum, who only picked mediocre challenges, hell he basically stuck to a home crowd till the last week of his life. Then the Jeruslalem crowd dosent like him, beg the romans to nail him to a chuck off wood. So he sits there waiting to drown in his own lung fluid, he could magic him self off and maybe give it another try, hell he knows his disiples have gone and pissed off. No he just dies, and maybe makes one or two fans on the way out of his guards. It then takes him 3 days or so to motivate himself to get off his ass again, then he only bums about for a few days before going home to dad.
Jesus = Bum FACT!
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:02
Jesus stands between you and the pearly gates and says, "If you want salvation, you'll have to get through me first!"

Really?. I thought it was like a huge maze. With a monster in.....or something.
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 22:03
Sinuhue, you probably do know that "washed in the blood of the Lamb" is a metaphorical description of the fact that Jesus' substitutionary sacrifice on the cross means that I am now clean before God, as foreshadowed by the typological sacrifices commanded by God in the Torah.

So don't be cute.

;)
Actually, I didn't know that, though I DID realise you were being figurative and not literal (well, I hoped). So....Jesus was the Lamb? And before this, real lambs' blood was used? Seriously.
DHomme
16-02-2005, 22:04
Satanic wiches breed babies for sacrifices and rituals. Ther are plenty of people who were ritualy abused. They tell about sacrifices canibalism and sex rituals.
Where is your evidence for this claim?
Where is your evidence that Catholics are going to kill all protestants?
Where is your evidence that Jack Chick isn't out of his fucking mind?
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 22:04
Really?. I thought it was like a huge maze. With a monster in.....or something.

That's what they did before Jesus.
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 22:04
I'd really miss the screwing in my life... :p
Because your actual Nationstates name is Jester, I'll let that one slide.

:)

Personally, if I get married, I hope to have sex with my wife very frequently, and I hope that we'll get better and better at it, so we each enjoy it more and more. That is the Christian definition of a fulfilled sex life.

:cool:
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 22:04
Jesussaves...are you a troll?

Anyway, so I don't get booted for trolling:

I don't worship any idol, living,dead, true or false.
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:05
I worship George Orwell, Franz Kafka, Socrates and John Stewart Mill, they’ve all impacted the world more than Jesus ever did, as I keep saying Jesus did jack all to found the Christian religion (great thing that was too) he came he said a few things he got nailed to a piece of wood died them came back for a weekend then flew off. Way to found a religion, Abraham and Mohammed were way more practical, go out and find lots of people, ok Jesus may of done this a bit, but he picked the hick part (Galilee) of a hick province (judea) that no one in the roman empire cared about, wow convert a few hicks, and his disciples, useless bunch of layabouts, hell they all run away when he gets arrested, and keep falling asleep when he talks to them, and their involvement in the early church, most people think they wrote the gospels that’s wrong, Is it weren’t for pragmatic people like St. Paul who took it by the balls and lead it to the capitals of the roman empire, hell it would have stayed as a Jewish cult.
Jesus was a lazy bum, who only picked mediocre challenges, hell he basically stuck to a home crowd till the last week of his life. FACT!

Wow. That was amazing. Almost brought a tear to my eye.
Amyst
16-02-2005, 22:05
Jesus saves. He passes it to Moses. Moses shoots...he scores! :D

http://getreligion.typepad.com/getreligion/jesus-saves-walmart.jpg
Passive Cookies
16-02-2005, 22:06
http://getreligion.typepad.com/getreligion/jesus-saves-walmart.jpg
gold.
Jester III
16-02-2005, 22:07
Actually, I didn't know that, though I DID realise you were being figurative and not literal (well, I hoped). So....Jesus was the Lamb? And before this, real lambs' blood was used? Seriously.
Jesus was the lamb in the figurative way that lambs were the traditional sacrifice give to God for appeasement. Jesus thus became the Über-Lamb, so to speak, that took away the original sin from the congregation and opened new ways for forgiveness from God's side.
And no, they never used lambs blood.
Slinao
16-02-2005, 22:07
Hey look, it's everybody's favorite religious troll!

I can see how that could be considered a troll, but in a thread about false idols and the like, I don't see how stating that you feel other religions worship false idols is that much of a troll, The title alone talks about this thread being about false idols, and calling attention to them, and trying to silence him with comments just pushes the thread count up, causes more attention, and makes you, in many ways as you complain that he is. He says things that insult, and there are many people that get insulted with being called out like that.

Though I think statements like the one you showed as trolling should, perhaps, be a bit longer and show that its based on opinions and such, but after reading the entire thread, you get the understanding that he is basing it off his own personal belief structure, and as so should be taken that way.

note: I used the word male pronoun out of 1)habit and 2) because I don't know either way, and he is shorting then she.
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:08
That's what they did before Jesus.

That'd explain it. Though why would Jesus be better than a monster. I can't think of any monster that couldn't kick Jesus' ass (Not including any character from sesame street or the muppets, except big bird.).
General Mike
16-02-2005, 22:09
Where is your evidence for this claim?
Where is your evidence that Catholics are going to kill all protestants?
Where is your evidence that Jack Chick isn't out of his fucking mind?Dude, he's seen the light, everything he says must be true!
Riverlund
16-02-2005, 22:09
who is chauser?

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you should never take religious advice from the ignorant. The irony here is so thick you'd have to cut it with a torch... :rolleyes:
Jester III
16-02-2005, 22:09
Personally, if I get married, I hope to have sex with my wife very frequently, and I hope that we'll get better and better at it, so we each enjoy it more and more. That is the Christian definition of a fulfilled sex life.
See, there we disagree. But i respect that devotion you have, even if i am very secular.
Amyst
16-02-2005, 22:09
That'd explain it. Though why would Jesus be better than a monster. I can't think of any monster that couldn't kick Jesus' ass (Not including any character from sesame street or the muppets, except big bird.).
The problem is that Jesus will just come back a few days later and keep fighting until the monster gives up.
Scouserlande
16-02-2005, 22:09
Wow. That was amazing. Almost brought a tear to my eye.
Thank you i try to be awsome, of corse it comes naturally. :P

That ladies and gents is the merits of giving a theological education to a atheist
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 22:10
Über-Lamb
I like that!
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 22:10
That'd explain it. Though why would Jesus be better than a monster. I can't think of any monster that couldn't kick Jesus' ass (Not including any character from sesame street or the muppets, except big bird.).

You obviously have never seen Jesus in action before. He was meek and gentle on Earth because that's what he was here for. And he still beat the crap out of some bankers. But once that whole thing was done, he could be himself. I'm telling ya, Jesus is not the kind of person you want to cross. He will beat your ass.
Prosophia
16-02-2005, 22:10
The only "sin chain" is the one that binds the hearts, minds, hands, feet, eyes, ears, and lives of those living in the kingdom of darkness.

Seriously though, God doesn't rank sins the way we do.
For a start, motives are just as important to God as external actions, and He actually knows our motives, while we just kinda guess at each others' thought processes.
Also, the issue is not so much individual sins as overall separation from God. Jesus died to sort that out; accept His authority over your life, and you will cease to be screwed.If God doesn't rank sins, how can money (or any other sin-inducing object or desire) be the "root of all evil"?

Or perhaps he doesn't rank order the sins themselves (like greed, or lust), but the sin-objects (money, sex)?
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 22:10
Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you should never take religious advice from the ignorant. The irony here is so thick you'd have to cut it with a torch... :rolleyes:

I was going to throw an ownzors out there earlier, but I've already got more trolls that I can reasonably care for. Not looking for another SPCT beef, you know.
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 22:10
Actually, I didn't know that, though I DID realise you were being figurative and not literal (well, I hoped). So....Jesus was the Lamb? And before this, real lambs' blood was used? Seriously.
Exactly.
All the Old Testament sacrifices on behalf of sins were like a preview of Jesus. His self-sacrifice on the cross did permanently what the OT sacrifices only did temporarily. The letter to the Hebrews (comes before James in the New Testament) goes into this at great length.
Jesus is referred to as the Lamb of God in John 1:29, John 1:36, 1 Peter 1:19, Revelation 5:6, Revelation 5:8, and maybe some other places as well.
Amyst
16-02-2005, 22:11
I'm telling ya, Jesus is not the kind of person you want to cross.

Apparently at least some people did.
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 22:12
Notice how Jesussaves never replies to inquiries about whether he is serious or not? Not even a, "Jesus says I'm not a troll, so no, I am not trolling".
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:12
The problem is that Jesus will just come back a few days later and keep fighting until the monster gives up.

Yeah. I suppose that is an advantage. But any reasonabally talented monster could kill jesus with very little effort. Thus leaving itself plenty of time to get some food, terrorize some townsfolk, and pursue other hobbies between bouts of Chisticide.
Scouserlande
16-02-2005, 22:13
Notice how Jesussaves never replies to inquiries about whether he is serious or not? Not even a, "Jesus says I'm not a troll, so no, I am not trolling".
The word is fascist i belive.

Edit: haha spelt it wrong the first time go me
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 22:14
Apparently at least some people did.

Heh. Got me there.

Most of them regretted it too.
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 22:14
See, there we disagree. But i respect that devotion you have, even if i am very secular.
How do we disagree?
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:15
You obviously have never seen Jesus in action before. He was meek and gentle on Earth because that's what he was here for. And he still beat the crap out of some bankers. But once that whole thing was done, he could be himself. I'm telling ya, Jesus is not the kind of person you want to cross. He will beat your ass.

Maybe. But isn't that pretty much cheating. Which i think is against christian teaching. So it's kinda like Jesus is a hypocrite.
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 22:16
Where is your evidence for this claim?
Where is your evidence that Catholics are going to kill all protestants?
Where is your evidence that Jack Chick isn't out of his fucking mind?
www.heart7.net/ritualab.html

I wish it wasnt true. Satan is using people to breed babies for sacrifice.
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 22:16
Notice how Jesussaves never replies to inquiries about whether he is serious or not? Not even a, "Jesus says I'm not a troll, so no, I am not trolling".

Obviously, this is because trolls, like all Tolkein and Rowling, are false idols. Not to be recognized or named.
Super-power
16-02-2005, 22:17
www.heart7.net/ritualab.html

I wish it wasnt true. Satan is using people to breed babies for sacrifice.
Question - are you just pulling these internet sources out of the blue? B/c I trust a hard document a lot more than the internet
The Genetic Impaired
16-02-2005, 22:18
Thou arest all wrong!!
For SpongueBob Squarepants is your savior!!
All kneel, you ignorant ones!!

...

Why bother others in what someone believes or does not believe.
I thought christianity was all about love. But I only see hate on that site.

My dear religious friends,
Leave others, who believe something else, alone. Let us be. If I will be punished by some divine creature, then He/She/It will do so. That's between me and Him/Her/It.
Scouserlande
16-02-2005, 22:18
www.heart7.net/ritualab.html

I wish it wasnt true. Satan is using people to breed babies for sacrifice.
Your an idiot, you need to be sent to the gulags forthwith.
Now thats vented.

How in the hell is that a reliable journalistic source, i fail to see articles like this in the times or on the BBC
Lunatic Goofballs
16-02-2005, 22:19
Maybe. But isn't that pretty much cheating. Which i think is against christian teaching. So it's kinda like Jesus is a hypocrite.

Actually, I think it says somewhere in the bible that the next time you see Jesus he will be a badass son of a bitch.
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 22:19
Question - are you just pulling these internet sources out of the blue? B/c I trust a hard document a lot more than the internet
There are many survivors of ritual abuse. They all tell about sacrifices and babies being bred for rituals
Jesussaves
16-02-2005, 22:20
Your an idiot, you need to be sent to the gulags forthwith.
Now thats vented.

How in the hell is that a reliable journalistic source, i fail to see articles like this in the times or on the BBC
A lot of the satanists are connected with the libral press and government
Amyst
16-02-2005, 22:21
There are many survivors of ritual abuse. They all tell about sacrifices and babies being bred for rituals
Man, and I thought waiting for 20 minutes for incubation in my biochemisty lab sucked. Imagine having to wait 9 months to get on with your experiment.
Roach-Busters
16-02-2005, 22:21
American Idol is definitely evil. *nod*

Lol :D
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 22:21
If God doesn't rank sins, how can money (or any other sin-inducing object or desire) be the "root of all evil"?

Or perhaps he doesn't rank order the sins themselves (like greed, or lust), but the sin-objects (money, sex)?
The King James has "the root of all evil", but many other translations have "a root (or source) of all kinds of evil" (Good News, New International and New American Standard).
Loving money isn't the only source of evil, but it is a big enough source for the Bible to mention several times (see also Matthew 6:24, "You cannot serve God and wealth.").
Slinao
16-02-2005, 22:22
There are many survivors of ritual abuse. They all tell about sacrifices and babies being bred for rituals

So witches of now are just like the christians during the crusades, where they would pour oil on non-believing infidels, burn entire cities, filled with non-combatants, slaughter men women and children and such. So based on that, then even the satanist witches could come full cirlce and be good people.....right?
CSW
16-02-2005, 22:22
From your little report:
"The Jury found that there is no physical evidence of satanic ritual child abuse in San Diego County."
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:22
Actually, I think it says somewhere in the bible that the next time you see Jesus he will be a badass son of a bitch.

Don't remember that last time I read it. Is that like the hip hop version of the bible?. With all references to home ****** Abraham and gangster Noah.
Scouserlande
16-02-2005, 22:24
A lot of the satanists are connected with the libral press and government
Proof?
There are many survivors of ritual abuse. They all tell about sacrifices and babies being bred for rituals
Proof
I mean a credible source too this time numbnuts

Anyone else think this thread is stupid its sole purpose is to enrage. I’m having fun regardless, I wont get a coherent answer, but its a good way of getting rid of stress Your an idiot, you need to be sent to the gulags forthwith
Cannot think of a name
16-02-2005, 22:24
I don't know 'bout you all, but there's only one god for me, and thats Lenny's dad's old hunting trophy...on Dasher on Dancer....oh man am I wasted....







[simpsons, if you haven't seen that episode]
Slinao
16-02-2005, 22:25
Don't remember that last time I read it. Is that like the hip hop version of the bible?. With all references to home ****** Abraham and gangster Noah.


probally the bit about coming back at the plains of armegeddon, and slaughtering those that stand against him with a flaming sword that has the power to sever the spirit from the soul....kinda badass I guess.
Sinuhue
16-02-2005, 22:25
The word is fascist i belive.

Edit: haha spelt it wrong the first time go me
No, I really mean troll. Think about it. He deliberately spells poorly (it has to be deliberate, when he misspells a word that has just been spelled for him, like Chaucer) and has terrible grammar and punctuation, creating the image of youth and or inexperience (trying to project sincerity). He always picks inflammatory topic and takes an extreme view, then refuses to back himself up with anything but more inflammatory statements, and he never, ever responds to accusations of trolling. He baits, he trolls! I had heard a few days back that he was up for review for trolling, but I haven't heard what happened there.
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:25
Proof?

Proof
I mean a credible source too this time numbnuts

Anyone else think this thread is stupid its sole purpose is to enrage. I’m having fun regardless, I wont get a coherent answer, but its a good way of getting rid of stress Your an idiot, you need to be sent to the gulags forthwith

This thread is great fun. I've yet to give a serious answer. To anything in my life really. This should be no different. Down with plastic models of Jesus.
Riverlund
16-02-2005, 22:27
There are many survivors of ritual abuse. They all tell about sacrifices and babies being bred for rituals

There are also many people who say that they have been abducted by aliens, or were famous people in a past life. Do you believe them, too?
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:28
probally the bit about coming back at the plains of armegeddon, and slaughtering those that stand against him with a flaming sword that has the power to sever the spirit from the soul....kinda badass I guess.

So no hip hop bible?. Shame.

Also. I am outraged about the whore of Babylon. Prostition is a fine career choice for those as choose it. And then I'm told she's metaphorical. i can't be dealing with metaphors. It's atrocious I tell you.
Slinao
16-02-2005, 22:30
So no hip hop bible?. Shame.

Also. I am outraged about the whore of Babylon. Prostition is a fine career choice for those as choose it. And then I'm told she's metaphorical. i can't be dealing with metaphors. It's atrocious I tell you.

there is a hip hop bible, I heard about it a few years back. It uses slang and such, lots of churchs got pissed off about it, I would love to get a copy.

"and then home boy Big C goes, "bitch, get out of my face" and bitch slapped Satan"
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:30
There are also many people who say that they have been abducted by aliens, or were famous people in a past life. Do you believe them, too?

I do. I was Bob Dylan in a past life. And I was abducted by aliens. And Elvis Presley, from down the chip shop, tells me Hitler is working in the electronics store. *Shifty eyes*
Slinao
16-02-2005, 22:34
EBONICS

Big Daddy's Rap

Yo, Bid Daddy upstairs,

You be chillin

So be yo hood

You be sayin' it, I be doin' it

In this here hood and yo's

Gimme some eats

And cut me some slack,

Sos I be doin' it to dem dat diss me

don't be pushing me into no jive

and keep dem Crips away

'Cause

you always be da Man

.

Aaa-men


ENGLISH

The Lord's Prayer

Our Father, who art in heaven

Hallowed be thy name

Thy Kingdom come

Thy will be done

On earth as it is in heaven

Give us this day our daily bread

And forgive us our trespasses

As we forgive those who trespass against us

And lead us not into temptation

But deliver us from evil

For

thine is the Kingdom, the power and the glory,

forever and ever.

Amen

-===-

I want this bible, see, I told you all there is a 'hip hop' bible.
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:36
EBONICS

Big Daddy's Rap

Yo, Bid Daddy upstairs,

You be chillin

So be yo hood

You be sayin' it, I be doin' it

In this here hood and yo's

Gimme some eats

And cut me some slack,

Sos I be doin' it to dem dat diss me

don't be pushing me into no jive

and keep dem Crips away

'Cause

you always be da Man

.

Aaa-men


ENGLISH

The Lord's Prayer

Our Father, who art in heaven

Hallowed be thy name

Thy Kingdom come

Thy will be done

On earth as it is in heaven

Give us this day our daily bread

And forgive us our trespasses

As we forgive those who trespass against us

And lead us not into temptation

But deliver us from evil

For

thine is the Kingdom, the power and the glory,

forever and ever.

Amen

-===-

I want this bible, see, I told you all there is a 'hip hop' bible.


That is utterly amazing.
Slinao
16-02-2005, 22:40
That is utterly amazing.
word, dawg

that be da way it be
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 22:43
EBONICS

Big Daddy's Rap

Yo, Bid Daddy upstairs,

You be chillin

So be yo hood

You be sayin' it, I be doin' it

In this here hood and yo's

Gimme some eats

And cut me some slack,

Sos I be doin' it to dem dat diss me

don't be pushing me into no jive

and keep dem Crips away

'Cause

you always be da Man

.

Aaa-men


ENGLISH

The Lord's Prayer

Our Father, who art in heaven

Hallowed be thy name

Thy Kingdom come

Thy will be done

On earth as it is in heaven

Give us this day our daily bread

And forgive us our trespasses

As we forgive those who trespass against us

And lead us not into temptation

But deliver us from evil

For

thine is the Kingdom, the power and the glory,

forever and ever.

Amen

-===-

I want this bible, see, I told you all there is a 'hip hop' bible.
I can top this!

http://cargo.ship-of-fools.com/Features01/Features/RFather.html

Now, THAT'S cool!
Ogmion
16-02-2005, 22:44
"A lot of the satanists are connected with the libral press and government"

Somebody needs to stop watching Fox News...

This is why conservatives piss me off. They start talking religion, and before you know it, they bring government and politics into it.

QUIT USING RELIGION AND POLITICS TOGETHER YOU MORONS.

One or the other. But not both.

And God says 'Quit playing with yourself'
Ciryar
16-02-2005, 22:48
"A lot of the satanists are connected with the libral press and government"

Somebody needs to stop watching Fox News...

This is why conservatives piss me off. They start talking religion, and before you know it, they bring government and politics into it.

QUIT USING RELIGION AND POLITICS TOGETHER YOU MORONS.

One or the other. But not both.
I think everyone needs to stop taking Jesussaves so literally. I think he and Johnny Wadd are the same person, and are deliberately misrepresenting a point of view in order to ridicule it. True, earnest, realistic conservatives (yes, they do exist) are not like this. Surely even the most fervent partisan for the left can see this. Seriously people.
Fimble loving peoples
16-02-2005, 22:51
I can top this!

http://cargo.ship-of-fools.com/Features01/Features/RFather.html

Now, THAT'S cool!

Nah. I prefer the other one. Though that is pretty good.
FutureExistence
16-02-2005, 22:58
Nah. I prefer the other one. Though that is pretty good.
All right then.
I'm an Englishman. We don't really get Ebonics over here, but txtspk was all the rage until predictive texting became widespread.
Gataway_Driver
16-02-2005, 23:11
A lot of the satanists are connected with the libral press and government

No please stop, this is easily enough. So satan basically controls everyone who doesn't believe exactly what you believe :rolleyes:
Drunk commies
16-02-2005, 23:13
No please stop, this is easily enough. So satan basically controls everyone who doesn't believe exactly what you believe :rolleyes:
Are you disputing that? That makes you satan's little helper.
Incenjucarania
16-02-2005, 23:16
...Chick tracts..

..The guy promotes the burning of books and thinks roleplaying leads to suicide, Satanism, and the ability to cast mind-warping spells on people within a few days of playing.

I've been RPing for over ten years. I'm still waiting to cast Magic Missile... ...

...at the darkness...
Gataway_Driver
16-02-2005, 23:19
Are you disputing that? That makes you satan's little helper.

I'm already satans helper, I'm catholic. Which in this nuts eyes makes me a "Mary worshipping pagan". what have I got to lose?
You Forgot Poland
16-02-2005, 23:19
I've been RPing for over ten years. I'm still waiting to cast Magic Missile... ...

...at the darkness...

Now that's comedy!
Sumamba Buwhan
16-02-2005, 23:21
Jesus saves. He passes it to Moses. Moses shoots...he scores! :D


lmfao!

also

To find out a girl's faults, praise her to her girlfriends. ~Benjamin Franklin
Neo-Anarchists
17-02-2005, 05:01
did you ever read any of Chicks little books? They are not lies and hate. He shows how Jesus loves you and wants you to be with him in heaven. He shows how satan tries to trick you.
:D
Tom Chick?
Love?
Tom Chick is the one saying gays want to terrorize our blood supply and Muslims just want to kill people. Oh yeah, and that taking LSD turns your brain into gel. Tom Chick isn't the best one to look to for teachings about love. I'd stick with Jesus any day.
Keruvalia
17-02-2005, 05:20
I'm already satans helper, I'm catholic. Which in this nuts eyes makes me a "Mary worshipping pagan". what have I got to lose?

As a Muslim, Jack Chick things I'm a moon goddess worshipping heathen whose religion was created by the Jesuits to wage war on Protestants.

The man is a comic genius.
Lunatic Goofballs
17-02-2005, 05:26
As a Muslim, Jack Chick things I'm a moon goddess worshipping heathen whose religion was created by the Jesuits to wage war on Protestants.

The man is a comic genius.

Moon Goddess?!? :confused: I admit that I'm not up on Islam, but I don't recall anything about a moon goddess.
Eichen
17-02-2005, 05:26
To the original poster, idol worshippers annoy me too.
The worst idolaters? The CHRISTIANS of course!
Reducing Jesus to an idol, merchandising for the Passion of the Christ.
All of the Christian idolaters should be killed, anyone wearing a crucifix or owning any graven image of Jesus.
Bitchkitten
17-02-2005, 05:36
My cats have demanded I sacrifice JesusSaves along with offerings of tuna and cream.
Keruvalia
17-02-2005, 05:37
Moon Goddess?!? :confused: I admit that I'm not up on Islam, but I don't recall anything about a moon goddess.

'Tis true ... according to Jack Chick ...

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp
Lunatic Goofballs
17-02-2005, 05:37
My cats have demanded I sacrifice JesusSaves along with offerings of tuna and cream.

It's best to do as the cats want.
Lunatic Goofballs
17-02-2005, 05:38
'Tis true ... according to Jack Chick ...

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp

Well, I learned my fun fact for the day. :)
Bitchkitten
17-02-2005, 05:52
As a Muslim, Jack Chick things I'm a moon goddess worshipping heathen whose religion was created by the Jesuits to wage war on Protestants.

The man is a comic genius.

I'm not sure if it was more funny or more scary. Sort of like one of those really campy horror movies. Does this crap ever convert anyone? You'd think they'd laugh so hard they'd never take Christianity seriously.
Roach-Busters
19-02-2005, 22:14
bump
Commando2
19-02-2005, 22:40
Dude, NEVER USE CHICK TO BACK YOU UP. True, I am a devout Catholic, so that may be why I cannot stand www.chick.com, but still, the mans logic is flawed altogether. According to Chick, the Jesuits created Islam to wage war on Protestants. However, the Protestant "Reformation" came way after Islam. And the Jesuits were not even formed at the time of the Protestant "Reformation." At least use a good site, like www.wayofthemaster.com.
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 23:02
Bumping a classic back to life
Servus Dei
22-02-2005, 23:03
Chick is a disgusting, money-hungry heretic looking to lead souls to damnation.
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 23:05
Chick is a disgusting, money-hungry heretic looking to lead souls to damnation.
You're only mad because he revealed your antichrist/pope's little scheme.
Dakini
22-02-2005, 23:06
Chick tells the truth in a way that makes non beleivers listen.
Chick states opinion in such a way that makes non-believes laugh and any sane believer embarassed.
Servus Dei
22-02-2005, 23:06
Chick even has a tract on how wonderful the Jews are and how "Catholic Germany" killed "6,000,000 Jews" under Vatican orders....
Drunk commies
22-02-2005, 23:09
Chick even has a tract on how wonderful the Jews are and how "Catholic Germany" killed "6,000,000 Jews" under Vatican orders....
Yes, that little whacko on occasion does tell the truth.
Dakini
22-02-2005, 23:10
did you ever read any of Chicks little books? They are not lies and hate. He shows how Jesus loves you and wants you to be with him in heaven. He shows how satan tries to trick you.
He shows hindhus preforming human sacrifice and buddhist having christians beaten mafia style. He also claims that harry potter books turn children to witchcraft.

It is full of lies and hate.
United East Asia
22-02-2005, 23:10
Jesus saves. He passes it to Moses. Moses shoots...he scores! :D

And the crowd goes wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild!!!! And now they're all dog-piling on Moses! There... there we can see Peter and John, they're both right on top of Moses! And Jesus does his famous dive on the lawn! There's one of the cheerleaders! It's Mary! Oh hell, look at that, she's joining the dog-pile!

Oh and over there in the corner we see Judas. He's moping, he has been transferred to the other team only 2 weeks before this game. Sucks to be him.



On another note.

Will people finally stop blaming me for everything?! I'm not trying to trick anyone! People come to me 'cause they want to, not because I trick them! It's not my fault they like the whole "prince of darkness" stunt and the "Hell, it's warm, it's comfy, and we got the 'hottest' chicks" commercial.
Choqulya
22-02-2005, 23:18
next up to the plate, Lucifer with his hefty batting avg. of 666. Here's the pitch, ohhh Judas makes a move to second, and Moses heaves from behind the plate. John catches and Judas is out, proving that thou shalt not steal!!
EmoBuddy
22-02-2005, 23:28
Jesus saves. He passes it to Moses. Moses shoots...he scores! :D
The Heaven Team does it again!!! Let's see if the Lucifer Crew can respond to this nasty offensive put on by God's minion's...
United East Asia
22-02-2005, 23:31
I think we can expect some really nasty action on the field on the second half.
The Lightning Star
23-02-2005, 00:11
Yes, that little whacko on occasion does tell the truth.

Nope.

1. Back then, Germany was secular.

2. Hitler persecuted the catholics and all but declared war on them.

3. The "Nazi Church"(the only church allowe by the State), was basically Protestant.
Drunk commies
23-02-2005, 00:13
Nope.

1. Back then, Germany was secular.

2. Hitler persecuted the catholics and all but declared war on them.

3. The "Nazi Church"(the only church allowe by the State), was basically Protestant.
Come on. Let me rile the little troll up a little. Where's your sense of fun?
Commando2
23-02-2005, 00:14
You're only mad because he revealed your antichrist/pope's little scheme.

The Pope is not the Antichrist. It is impossible.
Anarchic Conceptions
23-02-2005, 00:16
Chick is a disgusting, money-hungry heretic looking to lead souls to damnation.

:eek:

I'm scared. I agree with SD on something.
Drunk commies
23-02-2005, 00:16
The Pope is not the Antichrist. It is impossible.
Read your chick tracts. He's clearly the antichrist. Jesussaves says so, so I know it's the truth.
The Lightning Star
23-02-2005, 00:20
I've been RPing for over ten years. I'm still waiting to cast Magic Missile... ...

...at the darkness...

Lol!

They said that in 8 bit: Dungeons and Dragons!
United East Asia
23-02-2005, 03:18
See, I'm in a SW RP, and I still can't force choke people IRL, sucks!



I think someone should make a religion with me as god.

But we all know that the devil, for example, is a goa'uld, namely... Sokar *nod*

Chick then may be a Tok'ra, one of the more whacky group.

Which makes god a goa'uld as well? Maybe, who knows. Or is god the tok'ra and Chick the Jaffa? Na, chick must be a Furling then, or maybe chick is just the same kind of people who take some 20 kilos TNT and blow themselves up at a bus stop in the name of a god? Or... he's just an idiot with no life who has never been laid. That must be it. He's compensating.
Takuma
23-02-2005, 03:32
Many religions worship false idols. Only Jesus brings salvation. Look at the film marked controversial on this page
www.chick.com/catalog/videos/LOTW.asp#clips

God Bless You

Can I have my two minutes back now?

That was a load of crap. Your religion is just as possibly the wrong one. Get over it, seriously.

That's what I don't understand about fundamentalists who make these kinds of things. Are they really so stupid and blind that they can't see that theirs is clearly not the only choice and that all are equally valid? Why would "God" even create people if all he's going to do is doom 5/6 of them to hell? It just seems kind of a waste of his time, don't you think?
Anarchic Conceptions
23-02-2005, 03:34
Can I have my two minutes back now?

That was a load of crap. Your religion is just as possibly the wrong one. Get over it, seriously.


You have to admit that Satan looked funky though.
Takuma
23-02-2005, 03:37
Lol!

They said that in 8 bit: Dungeons and Dragons!

w00t! 8-bit D&D! http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/8bitdnd.html
Takuma
23-02-2005, 03:38
You have to admit that Satan looked funky though.

Yea, that was the highlight.
The Lightning Star
23-02-2005, 03:38
w00t! 8-bit D&D! http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/8bitdnd.html

T3h Uber-w00t!
Takuma
23-02-2005, 03:43
T3h Uber-w00t!

It's my false idol! :D
CthulhuFhtagn
23-02-2005, 03:52
Lol!

They said that in 8 bit: Dungeons and Dragons!
Which is the animated version of the infamous Dead Alewives sketch.
Takuma
23-02-2005, 03:54
Which is the animated version of the infamous Dead Alewives sketch.

But it's funny nonetheless!
Kervoskia
23-02-2005, 03:58
I worship the Invisble Pink Unicorn. It loves you, but piss it off and it'll send you to Hell.
:headbang: <--- what religion does
Anikian
23-02-2005, 04:34
I love the dead alewives sketch, It's actually on my looping list of music :)

"I attack the Darkness!"

"Where are the cheetohs?"


Jesus saves. The rest of you take 2d10 damage from the trap.
Der Lieben
23-02-2005, 04:45
Its a shame. Only through Jesus is ther salvation.

Now wait a second. How the hell are you the one to say what happens to her soul. I believe Christ is the sole way to get to Heaven, but I 'm not gonna go around pronouncing judgement on those who think differently. Where did you miss the point of Christianity man? Hell, where did you miss the point of advertisment? You attract more bees with honey than vinegar.
Jogyakarta
12-04-2006, 00:49
I watched the films you linked to.

I don't get it... the Almighty HAD to throw them in Hell. Who orders the Almighty to do what-what?
Fass
12-04-2006, 00:52
23-02-2005

Gravedigging is not allowed!