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Who is the most evil person in history?

The Poll is now up but it suck's, My guess is that over 90% of you will pick the last one: Other...Who and Why?

other: My Algebra I teacher...Mrs Harrison......ugh. She was wicked in every sense of the word.

Chopper Hackett. The chemistry teacher from hell. Dont you dare misspell phenol phthalein when you are 11 years old.

Barney

Barney
Where! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *runs away*

Emperor Willi II of Germany, probably. He screwed up everything Bismarck did. And led the world into two huge wars. The first one knowingly and the second one not.

What the hell is keeping that poll?

I'll vote Countess Elizabeth Bathory, whether or not she's on the poll.

What the hell is keeping that poll?

Some evil despot trying to insist that they are included?
Or Myrth demanding that he is excluded?

Take your choice.

What the hell is keeping that poll?

It's up.

hmm....well.....i still will neverunderstand why bush ever made it on this poll, there are so many other good choices. He is certainly misguided, but not inherinlty evil. Where are Lenin, Pol Pot, Kim Jong il, Huessein, Bin Laden, etc. Even jeffory dahmer, ted bundy, or jack the ripper could have been up there.

I think my most evil person is jeffory dahmer. Atepeople, driled holes in their skulls and pured in muratic acit, etc. Not very nice guy.

hmm....well.....i still will neverunderstand why bush ever made it on this poll, there are so many other good choices. He is certainly misguided, but not inherinlty evil. Where are Lenin, Pol Pot, Kim Jong il, Huessein, Bin Laden, etc. Even jeffory dahmer, ted bundy, or jack the ripper could have been up there.

I think my most evil person is jeffory dahmer. Atepeople, driled holes in their skulls and pured in muratic acit, etc. Not very nice guy.

Like I said it suck's but if your guy is not on the poll just pick the last one, Other...Who and Why.
I'll make a better poll later, if I can, with all the Real Evil People on it.

I haven't voted, because of a simple reason: Hitler and Stalin. OK, neither of them are angels. Hitler - Holocaust, Stalin - Purges: Conclusion: Both were xenocidal bastards, despite Stalins efforts during WW2, I respect the Russian populace for their sheer determination; Stalingrad

I haven't voted, because of a simple reason: Hitler and Stalin. OK, neither of them are angels. Hitler - Holocaust, Stalin - Purges: Conclusion: Both were xenocidal bastards, despite Stalins efforts during WW2, I respect the Russian populace for their sheer determination; Stalingrad

omg yes. When they retook red square, they were outnumbered, outgunned, threatened with death if they hid or ran, and they suceeded. Kudos to the red army.

omg yes. When they retook red square, they were outnumbered, outgunned, threatened with death if they hid or ran, and they suceeded. Kudos to the red army.

Thank you. I have found someone who actually knows their history well enought to understand the sheer horror of war. Lookin at it, maybe you should add another choice, ALL OF THE ABOVE

omg yes. When they retook red square, they were outnumbered, outgunned, threatened with death if they hid or ran, and they suceeded. Kudos to the red army.

Red Army, WTF?
Oh Yeah, great soldiers and so noble. Get out of here!
They were criminals, raping women by the thousands.

Red Army, WTF?
Oh Yeah, great soldiers and so noble. Get out of here!
They were criminals, raping women by the thousands.

All armies have their dark side. There is a trial goin on with British soliders at the moment about beatings etc in Iraq. No army is perfect

I'm offended you would put a Serb patriotic nationalist leader such as the honorable Slobodan Milosevic, in that poll.

He was a victim of a western smear campaign, don't you understand that? The West LIED about the problems in the Balkans, to justify their campaign of aggression there, just as Bush is LYING now, to justify being in Iraq and possibly entering into Iran.

All armies have their dark side. There is a trial goin on with British soliders at the moment about beatings etc in Iraq. No army is perfect

True.
But I have no respect for the Red Army, never have and never will.

True.
But I have no respect for the Red Army, never have and never will.

No-ones asking you too.I have no respect for the American Army, but there you go

I'm offended you would put a Serb patriotic nationalist leader such as the honorable Slobodan Milosevic, in that poll.

He was a victim of a western smear campaign, don't you understand that? The West LIED about the problems in the Balkans, to justify their campaign of aggression there, just as Bush is LYING now, to justify being in Iraq and possibly entering into Iran.

Are you pro-Milosevic then? Never heard anyone say that before

No-ones asking you too.I have no respect for the American Army, but there you go

I know that, I was just saying.
The American Army? So?

I know that, I was just saying.
The American Army? So?

I just hate the way they do things, thats why the British is generalyy the best army in the world. Hearts and Minds, great idea from our own SAS

Are you pro-Milosevic then? Never heard anyone say that before


Yes, I am 100% pro-Milosevic and believe he ought to still be ruler of Serbia. However, the West seems to feel it can and ought to interfere with the elections and governments of sovereign nations. Not all nations have or need elections, but still, a government is a government. Who is to say what people are "in need of liberation from their government's tyranny"?

(Ukraine being the most recent example, and then let us not forget Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, pre 1994 South Africa, pre 1980 Rhodesia)

The USA has a long and rotten history of poking its nose in other nations business.

:sniper: me...nuf said :mp5:
:gundge:

these smileys rock!

Yes, I am 100% pro-Milosevic and believe he ought to still be ruler of Serbia. However, the West seems to fill it can and ought to interfere with the elections and governments of sovereign nations. Not all nations have or need elections, but still, a government is a government. Who is to say what people are "in need of liberation from their government's tyranny"?

(Ukraine being the most recent example, and then let us not forget Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, pre 1994 South Africa, pre 1980 Rhodesia)

The USA has a long and rotten history of poking its nose in other nations business.

Yep, I'll agree with this point, but heres one: Who leads these campagins? THe U.S, thts who! DOnt blame the whole of the West, just blame Bush and his cronies, then of course ppl like Clinton etc

Yep, I'll agree with this point, but heres one: Who leads these campagins? THe U.S, thts who! DOnt blame the whole of the West, just blame Bush and his cronies, then of course ppl like Clinton etc

YAY!! Someone blamed clinton for something. Hell jsut froze over......YAY!!!

I odn;t respect the red army as people, but their tenacity, that's all.

Lex Luthor, he tried to kill Superman.....bad bad man he is.

Although I feel inclined to choose Bush I voted for Hitler as he murdered millions of innocent people for no reason at all apart from their race or religion which is the most evil thing anyone can do. Stalin was also a very evil person and he killed millions of innocent people, including many loyal Communists, because of his extreme paranoia. Milosevic can certainly not be compared to Hitler or Stalin and I do believe some of the allegations against him were propaganda to justify the NATO attack on Serbia. His actions however were partly to blame for the wars which devastated Yugoslavia and he supported Serb nationalists who were responsible for many human rights violations, particularly in Bosnia.

This poll is so obviously by an American who gains their history education of off such renowned sources as "Braveheart" , "The Man in the Iron Mask" and "Saving Private Ryan".

The creator of Teletubbies :D

Where in the Hell is Mao, the good honorable chairman started a famine that killed about 2 million people, not to mention the cultural revolution that basically made kids kill their parents for no reason.

MAO! MAO! MAO! MAO!

Wheres the Pol Pot too. i mean he declared cities evil and had the army force eveyone out and killed over a 1/3 of the countries population, man thats a winner by kill ratio alone.

Difficult to say, probably Pol Pot, or Vlaad the impaler or some other wicked dude like that. Out of your list, I'd say Hitler. Stalin did more damage, but he was a sociopath/paranoid freak, whereas Hitler believed in Jewish genocide.

Oh! Oh! Pick me! Pick me!

This poll is so obviously by an American who gains their history education of off such renowned sources as "Braveheart" , "The Man in the Iron Mask" and "Saving Private Ryan".
I believe the creator is Icelandic, I'm not quite sure, but I don't think North Island is an American.

NI, am I right?

There are worser evils out there. :p

But I think by sheer numbers, Stalin should be on top. Yeah.. where's Mao!?

This poll is so obviously by an American who gains their history education of off such renowned sources as "Braveheart" , "The Man in the Iron Mask" and "Saving Private Ryan".

This response is so obviously posted by a non-American who believes all Americans gain their history education off of such renowned sources as "Braveheart", "The Man in the Iron Mask", and "Saving Private Ryan." :rolleyes:

I still say Countess Bathory.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial8/bathory/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzs%E9bet_B%E1thory
http://www.sawneybean.com/horrors/Bathory.htm
http://www.horrorseek.com/horror/drlarry/bathory.htm

Please tell me that the people who picked GWB weren't serious.

Please tell me that the people who picked GWB weren't serious.

Scary thing is, they have so deepthroated the media that that's what they believe.

I'm tempted to say good old pacific war hero General MacArther (sorry if its mis-spelt, no time to check really) only tempted though.

Reason being because I heard that during the korean war he wanted... no demanded that he be given permission to nuke Chinese cities to holy hell when they became involved. And unlike the two dropped on Japan he wasn't even willing to try and make out that he wanted to shaft military bases with the bomb, he wanted the civilian population to feel the burn O.O. But yeah, tempted because this is something I've <i>heard</i> never really looked into it and found out the truth behind the matter, and he never actually went ahead and did it...

Thus the most evil man in history to me is... the dude that shot the Archduke Franz Ferdinand the 2nd. The lives he cost through that one single action just doesn't bare thinking v.v and he had the cheek to survive till the peace (methinks so anyway)

(note:: this was kinda rushed as I have to be ready for work in a sec, will go over spelling grammer and facts when I get back so don't flame me or anything for being wrong/stupid/whatever ;) cheers)

Stupid uneducated people voted Bush.

Who the fuck picked G W?

Ummm how about POL POT?

Dubya!

Who the fuck picked G W?
Dubya!
Well...

Bush isn't evil. He's just a bit slow. And Stalin wasn't all that evil either, though I do hate the man for wrecking communism. So, I guess Htiler from that list. But so many not on the list who should be: Pol Pot, Mussolini (Genocide anyone?.) and a whole horde of serial killers.

How about Albert Fish? An elderly, kindly-looking man who was in reality a sick fucking serial killer who cooked and ate children. When he was sentenced to death, he thanked the judge and said he "looked forward to the delicious pain" of being electrocuted.

Henry Lee Lucas is also a serious contender. Or that Peruvian guy who wandered the countryside killing families, raping children and slitting their throats.

Ah, the things you learn from Crime Library (http://www.crimelibrary.com).

This response is so obviously posted by a non-American who believes all Americans gain their history education off of such renowned sources as "Braveheart", "The Man in the Iron Mask", and "Saving Private Ryan." :rolleyes:

I am merely pointing out two things:

a) that evil cannot exactly be measured.
b) one man's hero is another man's villain e.g. would the USSR have beaten the Nazis without Stalin's industrialisation reforms.
c) How did Bush, Edward I and Milosevic get on there? Unusual as well as incorrect choices!

Things are more complicated than that.

I would describe few of the people on that poll list as actually evil.

Bush isn't evil. He's just a bit slow.

Bush isn't slow, he's inarticulate.

50 cent.

Just because Gavrillo Princip started WW1 does not make him a supreme evil. He was member of Serbian sepratist group in Austria-Hungary called the Black Hand, so he was basically a freedom fighter, trying to win freedom for his people from the empire of Austria-Hungary. He acted no different than countless other revolutionaries, and although that doesn't excuse his murderous actions, it shows he was not extraordinarily evil. He didn't know that that shot would ignite WW1. Besides, if he hadn't caused it, something else would have. That whole region was ready to blow anyway, 'cause of the tension amongst the various ethinicities in the old Austro-Hungarian empire, and between all the little tightly-packed countries in the Baltic which was exacerbated by the fact that tangled webs of alliances had formed some intense feelings of animosity. And of course we all know these alliances are why it beacmae a World War in the first place. Otherwise, it would have just been a small conflict between Austria-Hungary and Serbia.

Jesus, altho he wasnt exactly evil, but those that have followed his teachtings have killed countless ppl.
You got your holy crusaids, your spanish inquisision, and then the witch burning, child molesting etc ad infinitum. (Ok slight joke there at the end)

Most evil people (by region)

1.North America- Abraham Lincoln

2.Latin America- Efrain Rios Montt

3.Africa- King Leopold II (okay, he ain't African, but his actions in Africa killed millions)

4.Western Europe- Adolf Hitler, hands down

5.Europe (other)- Joseph Stalin

6.Middle East- Yasser Arafat

7.Southeast Asia- Tie between Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot

8.Asia (other)- Mao Tse-tung

9.Australia- Wilfred Burchett

Yes, I am 100% pro-Milosevic and believe he ought to still be ruler of Serbia. However, the West seems to feel it can and ought to interfere with the elections and governments of sovereign nations. Not all nations have or need elections, but still, a government is a government. Who is to say what people are "in need of liberation from their government's tyranny"?

(Ukraine being the most recent example, and then let us not forget Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, pre 1994 South Africa, pre 1980 Rhodesia)

The USA has a long and rotten history of poking its nose in other nations business.

As much as I despise Mandela and Mbeki, I can't say that I'm sorry to see apartheid go.

Has to be either Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot.
All communists, all genocidal maniacs. No-one has equalled thier level of evil not even Hitler.

I went for Stalin, cause the list wasnt detailed enough.

I'd like to nominate a couple of early trend setters.
Ivan II and Timur the Lame
Though I think a couple of Popes could be in there.
Whoever put in Elizabeth Bathory beat me to it.
And how about all that nice stuff the early Hebrews did? God really needs better PR people.

Bush isn't evil. He's just a bit slow. And Stalin wasn't all that evil either, though I do hate the man for wrecking communism. So, I guess Htiler from that list. But so many not on the list who should be: Pol Pot, Mussolini (Genocide anyone?.) and a whole horde of serial killers.
Stalin isn't that evil? Oh yeah, slaughtering twenty million people in purges...He's just misunderstood...Lord Jesus, some people have no idea what they're talking about. And c'mon, putting Dubya on the same list as Stalin and Hitler? Are you kidding me? You may not like him, you may even think he's evil, but c'mon, he's nowhere near their league of evil.

Most evil people (by region)

1.North America- Abraham Lincoln

2.Latin America- Efrain Rios Montt

3.Africa- King Leopold II (okay, he ain't African, but his actions in Africa killed millions)

4.Western Europe- Adolf Hitler, hands down

5.Europe (other)- Joseph Stalin

6.Middle East- Yasser Arafat

7.Southeast Asia- Tie between Ho Chi Minh and Pol Pot

8.Asia (other)- Mao Tse-tung

9.Australia- Wilfred Burchett
RB, you usually make sense, but...Honest Abe? Evil?

RB, you usually make sense, but...Honest Abe? Evil?

Read The Real Lincoln, by Thomas DiLorenzo.

Bush of course. No contest.

What kind of God Damn Idiot can place Bush over Hitler, Stalin, etc...
Kim Jon Li, Saddam, they where all more evil then Bush. BUSH ISINT EVEN EVIL!


How spitefull are all of you sore losers that you would vote Bush as the most evil person ever. Pathetic... :confused: :( :mad:

The Real Lincoln, by Thomas DiLorenzo. The biggest piece of propoganda crap produced.

As much as I despise Mandela and Mbeki, I can't say that I'm sorry to see apartheid go.


The end of Apartheid has resulted in the deaths of tens if not hundreds of thousands of my volk, and has resulted in the destruction of South Africa. So forgive me if I don't stand in line to hail the "New democratic South Africa".

ATENTION!

The poll suck's and that is what I said in one of the first posts on this thread, I was in a hurry.
I put GWB and SM as a joke but many will say that they are Evil and that is their right to do so as most of us live in free nations.
Now, for those of you that said that this poll was made by an American is not true and even if it was would it really matter?
History is history and it is a fact that Longshanks was a tyrant and many will say that is evil.
I will make a thread with a poll that has as many real evil guys on it as soon as I get a chance.

Albrecht de Wallenstien

Who actually DID get his own nostradamus prophecy, straight-up rather than cryptic.

Though, as malicious as it was, I have to admit that it was kinda brilliant to send your Lt. after a nonexistent unit in the alps and then cutting off supply and laying seige to the path, starving him to death, along with his 25K men (about half the total army). This was done since soon after he recieved notice that said Lt was going to be promoted above him.

Barney

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD POST IT BEFORE ME I KNEW IT!!!

While im inclined to vote for hitler... I had an international relations professor that made quite an interesting case to me..

He accepted the fact that Hitler was a truely insane man no doubt, which can be found in many points of his writings, his speeches.. his tactics in the field (battle of dunkirk was a travesty!) and his ultimate end.

However, Saddam is the truely evil man. Because his acts are done through intelegence in a precise manner. Up until recently he commited genocide and got away with it, invaded 2 countries and still survived, working and manipulating the international community to best fit his objectives.

There is a distinction between evil and insanity. Those who are insane are at a disadvantage since they suffer from a mental defect they can't control.. those who are truely evil are the ones activly persuing evil.

His explanation on saddam was much more indepth.. but that was 3 years ago long before the war ... and i was throughly impressed.. though im plagued with a bad memory T_T.. ill have to ask him again one day. But thats who i vote for... saddam

On numbers, Mao wins.

However, for sheer brutality, maybe Vlad the Impaler. Anyone who puts their own people on spikes just to scare away invaders is truly psychotic.

Anyone who puts their own people on spikes just to scare away invaders is truly psychotic.
How dare you insult me like that!

Stalin Hitler just went insane thats all.
Vlad the Impaler wasnt evil if the Turks want to kill his family why shouldnt he put their soldiers on sticks up the posterial

Albrecht de Wallenstien

Who actually DID get his own nostradamus prophecy, straight-up rather than cryptic.

Though, as malicious as it was, I have to admit that it was kinda brilliant to send your Lt. after a nonexistent unit in the alps and then cutting off supply and laying seige to the path, starving him to death, along with his 25K men (about half the total army). This was done since soon after he recieved notice that said Lt was going to be promoted above him.
Is this from the 30 years war?
If so he got his comuppance betrayed by his subordinates and tis no more
His death stuffed up Catholic oppresion of Europe.
Go Tilly

The three most evil men in world history:

Christopher Columbus, Hernando Cortez, and Francisco Pizarro. These maniacs held a 150-year Indian genocide campaign and nearly destroyed ancient Western culture; each of them massacred 1 person every 10 minutes.

Question....
Are the people of South America of the Spanish or Indians?

Question....
Are the people of South America of the Spanish or Indians?
Or the Slave
Mostly Spanish.
The Caribs dont exist anymore. :(

Or the Slave
Mostly Spanish.
The Caribs dont exist anymore. :(
Thanks, sad about the Caribs.

Is this from the 30 years war?Yup.

I think Trilateral Commission still has the comic we did about it last year. It's like that Russian "Mystic Stalin Vs. Hitler in a Catholic church" one, but with more people getting into duels with archangels.

And Cardinal Riario playing the part of a contract lawyer. That one was his idea, though.

Stalin Hitler just went insane thats all.
Vlad the Impaler wasnt evil if the Turks want to kill his family why shouldnt he put their soldiers on sticks up the posterial

Yeah, but the blood drinking thing was a bit much, don't you think? Plus the way he impaled anyone he wanted to if they displeased him the slightest bit.

Yeah, but the blood drinking thing was a bit much, don't you think? Plus the way he impaled anyone he wanted to if they displeased him the slightest bit.
But he was enforcing Good Christian Moral Values! He's a hero to his people!

(Unfortunately, that's how a lot of Turks see him...)

I voted Hitler but others are missing from the poll like Pol Pot and Count Dracula (who is a real person and that was his nick name).

Why are people still voting for Bush? BASTARDS. I'd like to see you living in communist Russia and getting out alive. You'd be killed just for being able to write. Feel privaliged that you're too ignorant to understand the horrrors of the world outside of your television sets.

Count Dracula of Transylvania. He murdered his people for enjoyment, then drank their blood.

Why are people still voting for Bush? BASTARDS. I'd like to see you living in communist Russia and getting out alive. You'd be killed just for being able to write. Feel privaliged that you're too ignorant to understand the horrrors of the world outside of your television sets.

Because the thought of a leader doing whatever he feels necessary to ensure his nations' agendas are accomplished, scares people. America is threatened, and its leader procedes to start blowing shit up.

"Dear God! You mean, we can't threaten them for years without retaliation?!"

Basically, people don't like a country that does what it wants instead of kissing the UNs asses, like every other nation.

Because the thought of a leader doing whatever he feels necessary to ensure his nations' agendas are accomplished, scares people. America is threatened, and its leader procedes to start blowing shit up.

"Dear God! You mean, we can't threaten them for years without retaliation?!"

Basically, people don't like a country that does what it wants instead of kissing the UNs asses, like every other nation.
Bush is an Idiot, and he does what he wants, but how on earth does this make him Evil? Hitler killed Jews, Gypsies, and Homosexuals, Stalin Killed people who looked at him weird, Robsperrie(sp) Killed for the same reason as Stalin, Pol Pot just killed people. You don't see bush with a guillitine, or commanding a firing squad.

Would it be sort of redundant to say the Devil? Why? Well, simply because he is the definition of evil. Don't believe me, this is what dictionary.com had to say:

the major personified spirit of evil, ruler of Hell, and foe of God.

I rest my case.

Tom Tancredo... America's rascist. :sniper:
(R-CO District 6)
United States House of Representatives

okay, he wasn't the most evil person ever... but my personal philosophy is that no one is evil... there are people that make bad decisions, but to be evil, one must forsake all elements of human nature. As long as you still believe in something, whether it's the most evil thing like what Hitler or Tancredo believed in, you still aren't evil. Disagree with me all you want.

This poll makes the mistake of thinking that the most evil person in history would have to be someone well-known.

History's Greatest Monster? Jimmy Carter.

Five most evil people:

1. Tamerlane: For his genocidal conquests and destruction of ancient cultures. He put the city of Esfahan to the sword and piled the heads outside the walls. Hundreds of towns, villages, and cities suffered a similar fate.

2. Genghis Khan: For genocide stretching from China to Russia, murdering millions in his wake. He was less cruel than Timur, but still is very evil. The combined Timurid and Mongol attacks killed so many Persians that parts of Iran took until the 1900s to recover former populations.

3. Stalin: For killing his own people and excessive paranoia.

4. Ayatollah Khomeini: For working against His Majesty Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, the Pro-Western, Pro-American Shah of Iran and replacing him with evil Islamic government incompatible with Persian culture.

5. "President" James Earl Carter: For standing by while the Shah was deposed and even facilitating Khomeini's rise to power. In addition to allowing brutal communist regimes to take power and working in favor of the Soviets at every turn.

I would have to say general Tojo. he slaughtered countless chinese during the japanese invasion and control of manchuria. he also upon thought allowed his soldiers to rape their women, allowed the japanese military doctors to committ some truly horrific experiments involving innocent chinese, and among that allowing the brutal treament of ally pows during world war 2